I was a incel creep when I was a teenager. Dozens of poems a day to my crush, creep.
I tried to understand why women didn't like me, figured I must be doing something wrong, and spent years on therapy, communication skills, psychology, and self improvement.
Little fragile cunts now just don't want to do the fucking work to become a good person.
I have no pity for them, given that their reaction to being told that they are the problem is to blame women even harder.
I'll go along with banning makeup if lift kits and after market mufflers get banned too. If women can't make themselves look better then those guys shouldn't be able to make their dicks look bigger. /s. Personally, while I prefer how most women look without makeup it's their lives and thus their choice whether to do it or not. Same with shaving for that matter. If society won't expect men to shave or judge them for not shaving then I won't hold women to those same expectations either.
uhm shes got makeup in the left picture too. is he referring to facial expressions / smile lines? this gotta be rage bait or he was dropped on his head repeatedly
What these morons are actually noticing is the difference in lens type and lighting. They think Robbie's eyes look larger and further apart in the left photo, and her skin less "golden", because of no makeup.
The worst part is the picture on the left she’s wearing some kind of lipstick or stain or gloss so it’s not even no makeup they are comparing two pictures of a woman wearing makeup
In my experience, people who make claims like "men would never think about women if [x]" are so close to making a personal revelation. The "oh wait, maybe, *I* just don't like thinking about women as much as society told me I should."
"If women didn't have makeup and filters, most men wouldn't think much about them" - sounds to me like "The only thing keeping me from being 100% gay is women with makeup".
I have encouraged all my girlfriends to give up makeup, they all loved not having to get made up to go out, just put in makeup for face events,nothing more.
My wife does killer hair and makeup for her very corporate job. She still looks dead sexy without it. If you think her makeup routine is some sort of entrapment.... enjoy never living with a woman, ever.
I certainly don't share the perspective these 2 idiots have, but I do wish we lived in a world where women didn't feel the need to wear much/any makeup just to leave the house because of dumb beauty standards.
No one should feel they have to hide what they really look like simply to exist. But not all makeup is for that purpose. Some people actually enjoy it.. They shouldn't be judged for that, either.
There's a whole world outside of the US. Most of my ex girlfriends could count the days they wore make up each year on their hands. American beauty ideals are just that, American.
They do it because they want to, they feel pretty with it on. They like playing around and making themselves look different. It doesn't have too much to do with attracting a mate. (can't say NOTHING to do with it, but it's not the main purpose, which is fun/self confidence)
Do they? I started because I felt unattractive because of huys making fun of me. I've stopped now, except for at work, because women are less likely to get promoted if they don't wear makeup. Personally I wish it would disappear so we didn't have any kind of pressure to use it. Maybe there's a woman out there who's completely happy with her looks and only uses makeup for "fun", but I've never met one. The ones who are secure in their looks typically don't use it.
Most start because of peer pressure at a young age, so I wouldn't be too sure of what they claim themselves. And society is very harsh, when a woman comes to the office without her regular makeup, people will immediately ask if she's sick.
To add to this, women who have an office job but don't wear makeup tend to be paid less than women who do. Not that their coworkers are making any more money when the extra pay is buying the makeup.
I like that it doesn't feel like an expectation *outside* of work, but I've still heard "I don't like how I look without it" more than once, which is twice too many. My aging aunt told me never to wear lipstick because she started to hate her non-lipstick appearance when she started
Imagine thinking someone naturally has pink beige lips, winged eye liner, contouring, and foundation. I'm not even convinced that the lefthand pic is actually plain-faced and not a "natural" makeup look. I certainly know the majority of men can't tell, but those are the same dudes who are like, "omg are you sick?!?" and the answer is no, that's a woman not wearing makeup.
Leaving behind their shit little piggy personalities, if only that were more common. Men with pretty nail polish? Thick, dark eyelashes with guyliner? Yes please
The thing I don't like out of a 10point system is different meanings. For me, 5 would be "neither ugly nor attractive, plain" and below is ugly, above attractive. But apparently that's not how other people do 10 point anythings
YES I get to proselytise about my weird thing on the internet!! Rate everything out of 17. Everyone I’ve explained it to has rightly thought I was insane… and then agreed I have a point. - Forces you to reset your thinking and actually objectively rate. - No half points, so you can’t fence sit, something is slightly good or slightly bad. - Resets the 7/10 or 4/5 is average thing. Average is 8 or 9. - Enough room to show variation without needing to be excessive, 3/5 and 4/5 should be diff.
Well, the biggest question would be are they using an absolute or relative scale, or put another way, are their vanishingly few 10s or are they roughly 10% of the population.
Guess who in my experience use most point systems and tests and games? muricans. Actually it is only muricans of people who I have met that use those kind of things. No wonder everyone is crazy there, when your "loved ones" test you everyday or play some stupid game. Like testing how do you react being told, "im pregnant" out of blue. That is never a thing you should tell anyone as a test or by joke! its very serious thing and should not be done! but my ex-wife from usa did that and more
like testing if I am faithful and would I talk to other women, sametime as she cheated on me and talked to like 5 different men, sexted with them etc. and didnt see anything wrong with it. 3 other muricans I have dated were also the same. Always testing and making me prove loyalty, and then they themselves fucked around and got caught. I realised something is very wrong with usa culture and how they raise people there. Critical thinking was also lacking from all and religion is just a lie.
I think you have a type, and she's not healthy for you.
I will agree that *too many* Americans lack critical thinking, and that is very intertwined with religion, which is far too present and powerful there. But to think all Americans, or even just American women, are like that is quite a jump.
I am only talking about my own experiences so I cant really comment more but those who I dated, sure set the bar low. Not all are same of course, I have met also nice american people but guess what, they all were from Europe originally :D I know I generalise too much but again, I only have my experiences to compare so I talked about those.
Trying to imagine living a life where “she drops 3 points for not wearing makeup” does not equate to “not only have I never seen a girl wake up in the morning without makeup”, but also “no girl has ever taken off her makeup, brushed her teeth and climbed into bed with me”, and it’s just not possible.
And the camera angle/distance. Having a longer lens further away from your face tends to be more flattering than a very short lens close up and below your face.
jasondeslin
Not enough men are lonely.
I was a incel creep when I was a teenager. Dozens of poems a day to my crush, creep.
I tried to understand why women didn't like me, figured I must be doing something wrong, and spent years on therapy, communication skills, psychology, and self improvement.
Little fragile cunts now just don't want to do the fucking work to become a good person.
I have no pity for them, given that their reaction to being told that they are the problem is to blame women even harder.
Vydrach
GratuaCuun
'Wouldn't think about them'
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1aG5kNGJrc29oaTMyNDdhajduemIwMzZlNndpbndoeHd5Y2RicDEzNiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/LyJ6KPlrFdKnK/200w.webp
ZombieBiteZ
POTUS wears a ton of makeup.
Marikhen
I'll go along with banning makeup if lift kits and after market mufflers get banned too. If women can't make themselves look better then those guys shouldn't be able to make their dicks look bigger. /s. Personally, while I prefer how most women look without makeup it's their lives and thus their choice whether to do it or not. Same with shaving for that matter. If society won't expect men to shave or judge them for not shaving then I won't hold women to those same expectations either.
itiswhatitis420
uhm shes got makeup in the left picture too. is he referring to facial expressions / smile lines? this gotta be rage bait or he was dropped on his head repeatedly
Telemapus
What these morons are actually noticing is the difference in lens type and lighting. They think Robbie's eyes look larger and further apart in the left photo, and her skin less "golden", because of no makeup.
StevenAlleyn
The worst part is the picture on the left she’s wearing some kind of lipstick or stain or gloss so it’s not even no makeup they are comparing two pictures of a woman wearing makeup
StevenAlleyn
Also probably mascara
Rogahar
In my experience, people who make claims like "men would never think about women if [x]" are so close to making a personal revelation. The "oh wait, maybe, *I* just don't like thinking about women as much as society told me I should."
Animorphs
Fellas, is it gay to like women???
eidam655
i'm willing to bet it's the "no make-up make-up" on the left. But at the same time - fuck off, Drew, wtf.
QuatermainFT
I feel like they might not really be into women.
acosmicolive
I’ve noticed that a lot of men these days are pretty much exclusively attracted to children and sex dolls.
slaitch
Makeup is akin to black magic in the hands of a skilled user. BUT! Drew and Steve are idiots.
MrTrevorBelmont
Is this an imgur post about a twitter post about a twitter post about a repost of a twitter post? I don’t even know where to start reading anymore
SunBrolem
And the cause of the male loneliness epidemic remains a mystery
INeverReadTheTOS
Okay but like... imagine the worldwide incel meltdown if makeup DID become illegal. If suddenly ALL women just stopped wearing it.
GussDeBlod
enforced by law ? "she was found with an eyeliner in her car, straight to jail"
nothingunused
"If women didn't have makeup and filters, most men wouldn't think much about them" - sounds to me like "The only thing keeping me from being 100% gay is women with makeup".
nimeton0
Makeup can do wonders.
bretlawson11042
If you aren't interested in women without makeup, maybe you're not interested in women.
AisforApple
"Women are objects, not people" said the loneliest men in history. "Why won't they fuck me?"
CallMeCourierSix
"They drop 3 'points' without makeup!"
JFC what a loser.
Toqom
I have encouraged all my girlfriends to give up makeup, they all loved not having to get made up to go out, just put in makeup for face events,nothing more.
andexer
Get them a strap-on and they might. But don't expect a call after.
anyamountofcheesebro
11Weasel11
My wife does killer hair and makeup for her very corporate job. She still looks dead sexy without it. If you think her makeup routine is some sort of entrapment.... enjoy never living with a woman, ever.
Velv3tThunder
This is why they're trying to bring us back to a time where women didn't get a say in the matter.
polepolekaz
Poor Incels. Luckily the VP shows them the couch alternative.
yamsonyamsonyams
“I don’t like how women naturally look” might mean you’re not actually into women.
No shame in that, just something you might want to think about
Feralkyn
Not only that but she's 100% wearing makeup on the left too. Really his post boils down to, "I want to be mad at people because I'm unhappy"
busterfixxitt
Hmmm... What do you think 'most men' would think about instead? https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1M2F1a3preWczOGVjbXdjdnM0bzllZXZqZWFicnQwM3lhaTExd3BiaiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/PVfSR2nddzGz6/200w.webp
fearTheAnimal
I certainly don't share the perspective these 2 idiots have, but I do wish we lived in a world where women didn't feel the need to wear much/any makeup just to leave the house because of dumb beauty standards.
AllTheKitties
No one should feel they have to hide what they really look like simply to exist. But not all makeup is for that purpose. Some people actually enjoy it.. They shouldn't be judged for that, either.
mormacil
There's a whole world outside of the US. Most of my ex girlfriends could count the days they wore make up each year on their hands. American beauty ideals are just that, American.
sometimesarobot
They do it because they want to, they feel pretty with it on. They like playing around and making themselves look different. It doesn't have too much to do with attracting a mate. (can't say NOTHING to do with it, but it's not the main purpose, which is fun/self confidence)
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Do they? I started because I felt unattractive because of huys making fun of me. I've stopped now, except for at work, because women are less likely to get promoted if they don't wear makeup. Personally I wish it would disappear so we didn't have any kind of pressure to use it. Maybe there's a woman out there who's completely happy with her looks and only uses makeup for "fun", but I've never met one. The ones who are secure in their looks typically don't use it.
zagibu
Most start because of peer pressure at a young age, so I wouldn't be too sure of what they claim themselves. And society is very harsh, when a woman comes to the office without her regular makeup, people will immediately ask if she's sick.
MirroredImage
To add to this, women who have an office job but don't wear makeup tend to be paid less than women who do. Not that their coworkers are making any more money when the extra pay is buying the makeup.
I like that it doesn't feel like an expectation *outside* of work, but I've still heard "I don't like how I look without it" more than once, which is twice too many. My aging aunt told me never to wear lipstick because she started to hate her non-lipstick appearance when she started
Salticido
That's why I stopped wearing makeup. I hated the idea of feeling unfinished without it. I wanted to be used to my own face.
wabitgirl
Imagine thinking someone naturally has pink beige lips, winged eye liner, contouring, and foundation. I'm not even convinced that the lefthand pic is actually plain-faced and not a "natural" makeup look. I certainly know the majority of men can't tell, but those are the same dudes who are like, "omg are you sick?!?" and the answer is no, that's a woman not wearing makeup.
Vebrandsson
If you think it's that big of a thing try using it yourself?
MirroredImage
Leaving behind their shit little piggy personalities, if only that were more common. Men with pretty nail polish? Thick, dark eyelashes with guyliner? Yes please
Vebrandsson
As a guy. I'd imagine like myself most men wouldn't even know where to begin to try applying makeup for a result other people would find more pleasing
CarInAVet
It really is straight-up embarrassing how much putting eyeliner on a guy does for me.
UmmonPrime
When you use a point system, you're a POS in my opinion
rbudrick
Fine, no fake innerweb pts for you!
TyphoonMuscles
Here's your upvote...wait a minute.
AisforApple
well, I've been known to tell my wife she's an 11
nimeton0
FaeVikingPrincess
I think I need sleep, I read that as your wife is 11 and I was like do you live on Epstein island?
AisforApple
lmao, I briefly considered people would scan it that way, but I posted anyway
xmaneds
she must be a "PRIME" choice !
casualgenderquestion2718
When are you gonna tell her the scale maxes out at 50?
casualgenderquestion2718
(I’m just kidding, I’m sure your wife is beautiful and you’re a good man)
sometimesarobot
The thing I don't like out of a 10point system is different meanings. For me, 5 would be "neither ugly nor attractive, plain" and below is ugly, above attractive. But apparently that's not how other people do 10 point anythings
themorah
YES I get to proselytise about my weird thing on the internet!! Rate everything out of 17. Everyone I’ve explained it to has rightly thought I was insane… and then agreed I have a point.
- Forces you to reset your thinking and actually objectively rate.
- No half points, so you can’t fence sit, something is slightly good or slightly bad.
- Resets the 7/10 or 4/5 is average thing. Average is 8 or 9.
- Enough room to show variation without needing to be excessive, 3/5 and 4/5 should be diff.
Donfolstar
Well, the biggest question would be are they using an absolute or relative scale, or put another way, are their vanishingly few 10s or are they roughly 10% of the population.
casualgenderquestion2718
yeah, does the 1-10 work on a logarithmic or arithmetic level?
casualgenderquestion2718
Is your 10 a hyperbola or is it a point on a linear function?
casualgenderquestion2718
I demand mathematical consistency, damn it!!
Hippopotamuswhale
Guess who in my experience use most point systems and tests and games? muricans. Actually it is only muricans of people who I have met that use those kind of things. No wonder everyone is crazy there, when your "loved ones" test you everyday or play some stupid game. Like testing how do you react being told, "im pregnant" out of blue. That is never a thing you should tell anyone as a test or by joke! its very serious thing and should not be done! but my ex-wife from usa did that and more
Hippopotamuswhale
like testing if I am faithful and would I talk to other women, sametime as she cheated on me and talked to like 5 different men, sexted with them etc. and didnt see anything wrong with it. 3 other muricans I have dated were also the same. Always testing and making me prove loyalty, and then they themselves fucked around and got caught. I realised something is very wrong with usa culture and how they raise people there. Critical thinking was also lacking from all and religion is just a lie.
apairofpetducks
I think you have a type, and she's not healthy for you.
I will agree that *too many* Americans lack critical thinking,
and that is very intertwined with religion, which is far too present and powerful there. But to think all Americans, or even just American women, are like that is quite a jump.
Hippopotamuswhale
I am only talking about my own experiences so I cant really comment more but those who I dated, sure set the bar low. Not all are same of course, I have met also nice american people but guess what, they all were from Europe originally :D I know I generalise too much but again, I only have my experiences to compare so I talked about those.
Sebastopol140
I rate this comment 5/7
psugab
Perfect score
Hippopotamuswhale
139543543/5 rated this comment
ALTEFFFOUR
VitaminJay
Even without makeup, she's beautiful.
eatyourmeat
Gotta have a base beauty. You can polish a turd, but it’s still a shiny turd
ReallyOG
Trying to imagine living a life where “she drops 3 points for not wearing makeup” does not equate to “not only have I never seen a girl wake up in the morning without makeup”, but also “no girl has ever taken off her makeup, brushed her teeth and climbed into bed with me”, and it’s just not possible.
Damn son. I’m sorry for you.
NotSomoneElse68
I believe she's wearing makeup in the first picture, too. The 'natural' look.
ukalliq
I'm sure she is, but she is wearing makeup in both of these pictures.
MCNewYorkLives
Yea, the main difference is how done up it is and the rest of her attire (hair down and styled vs up and in a messy bun).
avavilina
And the camera angle/distance. Having a longer lens further away from your face tends to be more flattering than a very short lens close up and below your face.
hyptosis
Imagine not thinking the first photo is hot as hell. Weapons grade mental stupidity.
yamsonyamsonyams
A true hero!
timetocreateausername
Margaret Robbie. That’s a beautiful woman and if you disagree there’s something wrong with you.
Phoelixx
Margot*
ThM1ck
Even without makeup, she's still WAY out of either of them's league.
KingHippie
I've always thought most women look better without make up.
IhopeUgetwhatUvoted4
Those dudes are really saying, they like other dudes more than women.
Buckman1988
The left picture looks like she’s interested in you. That’s my kink, show me any attention and I’m into you if you’re a woman.
raftus
Same, but I can be flexible on that last part. I prefer boobs. Fo sho. But man it feels good to have some interested in you
thundermoe79
I’m a straight dude! But hey man! What’s up?
Buckman1988
Hey man! I appreciate the interest but I did specify women. Maybe we can be friends?
powerrangerpl
100%.
gurgledeeznutz360
She's gorgeous. Makeup or not, a woman is still beautiful. These guys love their hand more than women or being with a woman; Fucking losers.
Pyrsperse666
More beautiful without makeup, to me.
Pyrsperse666
Or less makeup or whatever, but pretty in both pictures!
OgzOman
But she has makeup on in both pictures…
Pyrsperse666
Yeah, as I said, "or less makeup or whatever".
ILookAtPicturesOfBeautifulWomen
I love women.
DragonSamurai182
https://youtu.be/Y2Y5KVtU810?si=WWHyfSyOtAss1d6U
Joxtacy
Username checks out
xmaneds
https://www.reddit.com/r/GentlemanBoners ... this is actually mostly SFW safe for work
BottleOpener1
VitaminJay
Yoink!
Rynestrm
The Barbie movie literally has a joke about Margot Robbie looking very pretty with no make up.
unluckyandbored
Laughed out loud at that. Something like "This bit would hit a lot harder if it wasn't Margot Robbie doing it"
Rynestrm
“Note to the filmmakers. Margot Robbie is the wrong person to cast to make this point.”
xmaneds
that ain't no joke, man . . . . no joke
unluckyandbored
God that movie was fucking brilliant, from start to finish.
UnaccomplishedWatcherImNotaBot
Nah she's not that pretty
CaptSchmidtGaming
2/10
StylesRockman
Thank God the neckbeards are out to let everyone know they're unfuckable incels
casualgenderquestion2718
Cool
vekvok
I mean, opinions are like assholes and all that.