Mar 30, 2017 10:23 PM
G3n3siz
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rossonerinho
Plot twist - you're Swedish.
Promethianfire
Hah. Have fun being a commie, commie! *shoots guns in the air*
ChiefJusticeEarlWarren
Mmmmmm. Danish government is the tastiest government.
hmnbas
I got mine last year! Same in Croatia! :)
WhatTheDormouseSaid
GOOOODDDD BLSSS AMERICAAAAAAA *sobs in capitalism*
IamGelatinSkelly
Oh look at me, I live in a country where the government cares about their citizens. That's you, that's what you sound like.
LosPer
*paid for by Danish taxpayers. Be sure to thank them....
I will, by paying my taxes
aishamaria
As an American with crippling student loan debt
WilliamHuskerAdama
Americans: BUT MUH TAXES *Is afraid of calling an ambulance bc it'll be too expensive*
Jrhoney
You mean the Danish People.
HansKristianMller
Jeg læser også datalogi i Danmark. Kun på 4. semester desværre.
Dafukmylookinat
You should now be relevant in the job market! Good luck oP
DrunkenWizard
I'm about to finish my bachelor's in computer science all paid for by the US government. Good ole' Air Force Academy
JustHereForTheRiots
JMcDank
Just took $3200 today and paid off the rest of my student loan. Would have preferred to spend it on something fun, but it's over. Finally.
JudgeMentalCat
How many years?
BluBoxx
You typically don't pay for graduate degrees in science or engineering fields in the US either (unless you have no business getting one) @OP
And who has "no business" getting the education they want?
People who have not completed or did poorly in their undergraduate studies.
Xopher30
You mean paid for by other Danish citizens whether they want to or not
valdemarjoergensen
Well politicians actually listens to the public here. So they did want to. Or else the system wouldn't be as it is.
thelostg
Congrats. After we finish paying the last 45k of our student loans. My wife and I can begin saving every extra penny for our kids schooling
PartyLikeIts9999
Or you could work this your children so they get scholarships.
Of course but no guarantees so need to prepare
Skizzlesnap
Screw you and your country that doesn't rape you into poverty.
Because you are forced to get student loans in the US?
Don't know many that can afford to go without a loan of some sort. Financial institution or parents (if you're well off).
stopitlucas
While very awesome you're taxes are crazy I'm sure
All the taxes are money we get back in stuff like health care. They don't vanish, we get them back again.
I know, mate. I think it's a good thing.
rezpawner
EAT SHIT YOU CUNT MOTHERFUCKER. Sincerely, another guy with a MSc in computer science with a big fucking student loan.
DickInAToaster
With a masters in CS you should have your loans paid off in no time, like me.
Angry at the decisions you freely made?
Not angry about buying a car. Can still be jealous of people that get gifted one from their rich parents?
You mean envious. No reason to criticize your parents for not gifting you a car, either.
wingnutie
What's the tax rate for purchasing a car or anything in Denmark....?
What we pay in taxes doesn't vanish. We get all the money back in services that an American will have to pay for, like health care.
Some do pay more than what they get back, and some less. We just care about our common man and don't want to see others dying in the streets
weeBob
and a skill that is in demand to boot! Take that intersectional feminist studies!
MegaDiogenes
Yeah, but those taxes though. Have fun.
Danmark have been the happiest country in the world several times. So statistically he should have more fun than people paying less tax?
Yeah, have fun living in a country with massive benefits from paying tax.
evazapata
Yup. And my french boyfriend just took a 30k loan to pay his master computer science studies here in Switzerland.. The semester doesn't (1)
cost much, the price of life does :/ (2)
ghettosoak
Especially in Switzerland!
DavidBrooker
If my tuition was merely waived, I likely couldn't afforded to go to grad school. North American STEM graduates expect a stipend, usually.
Yeah, I think the US are another story ^^ there is just no comparison with the rest of the world :/
I was more comparing graduate v. undergraduate in the US/Canada. Graduate students in STEM expect both tuition and living expenses covered.
walkintheshadows
And you'll pay 55% of your income to the government forever. Yay, "free" education! :-/ Maybe you should retake an economics class?
[deleted]
According to US News, in Denmark the average income tax for Danes is 45%. Then they have a 25% VAT.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/denmark/personal-income-tax-rate
And that 55% goes towards a ton of public services, which is why Scandinavians have the highest standard of living in the world.
muchlovedane
He never said that he got a free education, just one without student lowns. In DK we see it as the gov investing in its future
So yea, Iam happy to pay 55% or even more taxes, if it means that someone in a less fortunate position than me, gets to go to uni
Yeah, we don't have to throw money towards education, health care and a lot of other services. I think it about equals out.
It's not that those 55 % gets throw away. You end up getting them back in services you would have to pay for yourself as an american.
SanctuaryIsALie
What's the market like for MCSs in Denmark? Does it pay off?
EnvoyEngineer
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Free until you pay most of your income to taxes.
wadatahmydamie
Spotted the libertarian
Moghul
Good. My roads look nice, no snow on them, free health care (even tho I'm not sick), etc, etc.
waitwhat1234
Found the Yank.
FreDZOMKA
Why do people hate high tax. Take care of each other in your country.
Some how the idiots think the money just vanishes. They don't realise you just get them back in free public services like healthcare.
HolyHolopov
The maximum tax for highest income people is 55.794%, meaning most is under. How is that 'most of your income'?
VanillaIcing
I completely agree with you, you're in the right. Just saying 55% is still technically 'most'
Based on US News, the average Danes income tax is 45%. Tax isn't limited to income tax. You have VAT of 25% and 105% tax on new cars.
1/2 The average combined income tax, property tax, labour-market contribution and stock income for 2016 was 34,1 procent, according to
2/2 the Ministry of Taxation http://www.skm.dk/skattetal/statistik/indkomstfordeling/gennemsnitsskatten-for-samtlige-skattepligtige-i-2016
RefAtty
Is it wrong?
Yeah. About that. You'll still be paying for it all your life in inflated taxes. How do you think it's funded? Mine will be paid in <5 yrs.
MorfarErHer
but in Denmark, we give the next generation a chance at higher education with our taxes
In America we give the next generation a chance w loans....that can be paid off before they're 30....and not paid in taxes for life.
condor120
You're right. Instead we pay our taxes to pay for an overinflated defense budget while watching our schools and infrastructure crumble.
You talk like your system is so much better, but the fact is the average dane is happier in life than an American, so what really matters?
Who cares about avgs? What matter to me is MY happiness and the fact that my loans are short term and I have a low tax rate. ????
One illness and you're fucked
Sortofcookiecrazed
Aaaaand that’s 1 of the reasons why USA has prisons filled to the brim. Ghettos and people dying because of missing healthcare. ME ME and ME
Well ever heard the saying giving is better than receiving? That's how a lot of danes feel. We actually care about people around us.
RonarOfTheRebellion
Ah, a fellow Communist European. I'm happy for you comrade. Don't you love it that people in the US think this is impossible to implement?
At the graduate level it usually is. The vast majority of science / engineering / math graduate students are paid positions.
We dont think its impossible. We think its unnecessary. My undergrad loans paid off in 5 yrs. Current grad student. Will pay these in less.
That doesn't make it any better. It worked out for you, doesn't mean it will for everybody. There's also, you know, really fucking poor (1)
Theres also poor ppl? You mean like I was? Sorta still am? Whats that have to do w anything? Its a loan. An investment in your future self.
The term I used, was "really fucking poor". Not everyone is eligible for a loan.
For college in the US? Yes they are.
people. Don't they deserve the chance if qualified for it, solely on the basis of their wealth? Even in your case, instead of paying off (2)
loans, you could have saved that money. You could spend it on shit, which is always good for the economy. Maybe even invest it. All three(3)
choices are better for you and even the people around you.
That makes absolutely no sense at all. Its just flat wtong. Please take an intro to finance course or intro to microecon.
erickua
while im here in merica getting my bachelor in computer science with 120k in dept
PermenantlyBannedClubMember
And still can't spell "debt"
PiGuy314
Compiler would have caught that.
Slashinhobo
But how? You can go to school in the silicon valley FT for 10 years and share a room and still pay less than you. did.
I know. Which im trying to see if I can transfer somewhere else in merica to find cheaper and better education
what do you mean?
NSATailoredAccessOperationsUnit
*Debt
*thank you
lickwidghost
He didn't say he's studying literacy :p
The only thing I know is code
MrBananahat
It is almost like your government wants you to be either uneducated or in debt.
@AreThereAnyUsernamesThatArentTakenYet you are correct my sir.
TheLegendarySuperStrayan
How the fuck is education so expensive in america holy shitnuggets
The only way you should be spending that kind of money is if you're pursuing a doctorate. Spending 120K on a B.S. is for suckers.
ThaiMaiShu
People make stupid decisions on which school to go to, that's how it's that much, my brother only paid about 10k
biggoat
First mistake. Being born in America. 2nd mistake not going to jr college in CA.
Ha ha just sharing the information.
Lol.
ImHereToPissPeopleOff
How? There are so many programs that help pay for comp sci though, not to mention great paying jobs during school
Look at government grants, there are lots of programs that pay for your college and then you work for them for a few years
yes
Ha! That's gonna be me in 4 years.
I pray for you
Thanks. I'm hoping to escape with minimal debt- work study, apply for every and any scholarship, etc etc
waitwasthatreal
Just know what you want when you get out. Debt isn't an issue if you know you will be able to pay it off.
Thankfully, Computer Science is a high paying field, and the college I'm going to has a history of CS grads going straight into
Maybe pick up a Sugar Daddy if I meed to
**need
Thats absurd. I got a similar degree for less than half that. Where are you? Stanford?!
In 4 years thats 120k. and haha no I wish! but its in New York.
tpan92
IT RECRUITER HERE in nyc what school you go to for 120k ba?? nyu??
Well dont blame the system bc you chose to take out loans for an immensely expensive school. Could have gone anywhere for about half that.
PrincessAzula
I too am in New York with an overpriced cs degree. A fellow RPI student by any chance?
O shit hey there fellow human. And nope sorry.
ZusakKetchum
Just got accepted to rpi, how is the community (on and off campus)?Also, is its business college good? Still deciding between RPIand purdue.
xzhous
RPI for engineering, Purdue for business
Why? You can get a CS degree for much less. I assume you wanted to go to a specific school that you probably should have gone to.
*shouldn't
Speqs
Right. I Would have gone to tech if my uni didn't give me a full ride.
JeffDahmer
*Should. Don't care about debt, college was the best time of my life.
luxemonster
I want you to read that again and see if you can understand how idiotic it is.
And based on their meaning, my comment is not "idiotic." Thanks though for the unwarranted hate.
It must be an incredible luxury to not worry about debt.
OP certainly meant shouldn't based on the rest of their comment, but whatever.
Respond
For someone interested in CS degree, where
slinkydust
Find a local university. They mostly all teach the same stuff. It's what you do/learn on the side that will make you stand out.
I have a CS degree and work as a dev and conduct ~20 interviews a year. I couldn't care less about the name of the school on your diploma.
FlippedToast
As someone who is getting a CS degree, what do you care about?
aleedalee
Wtf dude
ForgotMyOtherAcct
Lol, projecting much? From the word 'yes', the original commenter has horrible social skills. That's quite a reach
what
ChirpHard
Your insecurities are leaking. That's enough internet for you today. Get some sleep, we'll see you tomorrow.
MyNameIsToaster
You seem like a team player
Albralelie
rossonerinho
Plot twist - you're Swedish.
Promethianfire
Hah. Have fun being a commie, commie! *shoots guns in the air*
ChiefJusticeEarlWarren
Mmmmmm. Danish government is the tastiest government.
hmnbas
I got mine last year! Same in Croatia! :)
WhatTheDormouseSaid
GOOOODDDD BLSSS AMERICAAAAAAA *sobs in capitalism*
IamGelatinSkelly
Oh look at me, I live in a country where the government cares about their citizens. That's you, that's what you sound like.
LosPer
*paid for by Danish taxpayers. Be sure to thank them....
G3n3siz
I will, by paying my taxes
aishamaria
As an American with crippling student loan debt
WilliamHuskerAdama
Americans: BUT MUH TAXES *Is afraid of calling an ambulance bc it'll be too expensive*
Jrhoney
You mean the Danish People.
HansKristianMller
Jeg læser også datalogi i Danmark. Kun på 4. semester desværre.
Dafukmylookinat
You should now be relevant in the job market! Good luck oP
DrunkenWizard
I'm about to finish my bachelor's in computer science all paid for by the US government. Good ole' Air Force Academy
JustHereForTheRiots
JMcDank
Just took $3200 today and paid off the rest of my student loan. Would have preferred to spend it on something fun, but it's over. Finally.
JudgeMentalCat
How many years?
BluBoxx
You typically don't pay for graduate degrees in science or engineering fields in the US either (unless you have no business getting one) @OP
G3n3siz
And who has "no business" getting the education they want?
BluBoxx
People who have not completed or did poorly in their undergraduate studies.
Xopher30
You mean paid for by other Danish citizens whether they want to or not
valdemarjoergensen
Well politicians actually listens to the public here. So they did want to. Or else the system wouldn't be as it is.
thelostg
Congrats. After we finish paying the last 45k of our student loans. My wife and I can begin saving every extra penny for our kids schooling
PartyLikeIts9999
Or you could work this your children so they get scholarships.
thelostg
Of course but no guarantees so need to prepare
Skizzlesnap
Screw you and your country that doesn't rape you into poverty.
PartyLikeIts9999
Because you are forced to get student loans in the US?
Skizzlesnap
Don't know many that can afford to go without a loan of some sort. Financial institution or parents (if you're well off).
stopitlucas
While very awesome you're taxes are crazy I'm sure
valdemarjoergensen
All the taxes are money we get back in stuff like health care. They don't vanish, we get them back again.
stopitlucas
I know, mate. I think it's a good thing.
rezpawner
EAT SHIT YOU CUNT MOTHERFUCKER. Sincerely, another guy with a MSc in computer science with a big fucking student loan.
DickInAToaster
With a masters in CS you should have your loans paid off in no time, like me.
PartyLikeIts9999
Angry at the decisions you freely made?
valdemarjoergensen
Not angry about buying a car. Can still be jealous of people that get gifted one from their rich parents?
PartyLikeIts9999
You mean envious. No reason to criticize your parents for not gifting you a car, either.
wingnutie
What's the tax rate for purchasing a car or anything in Denmark....?
valdemarjoergensen
What we pay in taxes doesn't vanish. We get all the money back in services that an American will have to pay for, like health care.
valdemarjoergensen
Some do pay more than what they get back, and some less. We just care about our common man and don't want to see others dying in the streets
weeBob
and a skill that is in demand to boot! Take that intersectional feminist studies!
MegaDiogenes
Yeah, but those taxes though. Have fun.
valdemarjoergensen
Danmark have been the happiest country in the world several times. So statistically he should have more fun than people paying less tax?
WilliamHuskerAdama
Yeah, have fun living in a country with massive benefits from paying tax.
evazapata
Yup. And my french boyfriend just took a 30k loan to pay his master computer science studies here in Switzerland.. The semester doesn't (1)
evazapata
cost much, the price of life does :/ (2)
ghettosoak
Especially in Switzerland!
DavidBrooker
If my tuition was merely waived, I likely couldn't afforded to go to grad school. North American STEM graduates expect a stipend, usually.
evazapata
Yeah, I think the US are another story ^^ there is just no comparison with the rest of the world :/
DavidBrooker
I was more comparing graduate v. undergraduate in the US/Canada. Graduate students in STEM expect both tuition and living expenses covered.
walkintheshadows
And you'll pay 55% of your income to the government forever. Yay, "free" education! :-/ Maybe you should retake an economics class?
[deleted]
[deleted]
PartyLikeIts9999
According to US News, in Denmark the average income tax for Danes is 45%. Then they have a 25% VAT.
walkintheshadows
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/denmark/personal-income-tax-rate
WilliamHuskerAdama
And that 55% goes towards a ton of public services, which is why Scandinavians have the highest standard of living in the world.
muchlovedane
He never said that he got a free education, just one without student lowns. In DK we see it as the gov investing in its future
muchlovedane
So yea, Iam happy to pay 55% or even more taxes, if it means that someone in a less fortunate position than me, gets to go to uni
valdemarjoergensen
Yeah, we don't have to throw money towards education, health care and a lot of other services. I think it about equals out.
valdemarjoergensen
It's not that those 55 % gets throw away. You end up getting them back in services you would have to pay for yourself as an american.
SanctuaryIsALie
What's the market like for MCSs in Denmark? Does it pay off?
EnvoyEngineer
.
PartyLikeIts9999
Free until you pay most of your income to taxes.
wadatahmydamie
Spotted the libertarian
Moghul
Good. My roads look nice, no snow on them, free health care (even tho I'm not sick), etc, etc.
waitwhat1234
Found the Yank.
FreDZOMKA
Why do people hate high tax. Take care of each other in your country.
valdemarjoergensen
Some how the idiots think the money just vanishes. They don't realise you just get them back in free public services like healthcare.
HolyHolopov
The maximum tax for highest income people is 55.794%, meaning most is under. How is that 'most of your income'?
VanillaIcing
I completely agree with you, you're in the right. Just saying 55% is still technically 'most'
PartyLikeIts9999
Based on US News, the average Danes income tax is 45%. Tax isn't limited to income tax. You have VAT of 25% and 105% tax on new cars.
HolyHolopov
1/2 The average combined income tax, property tax, labour-market contribution and stock income for 2016 was 34,1 procent, according to
HolyHolopov
2/2 the Ministry of Taxation http://www.skm.dk/skattetal/statistik/indkomstfordeling/gennemsnitsskatten-for-samtlige-skattepligtige-i-2016
RefAtty
Is it wrong?
DickInAToaster
Yeah. About that. You'll still be paying for it all your life in inflated taxes. How do you think it's funded? Mine will be paid in <5 yrs.
MorfarErHer
but in Denmark, we give the next generation a chance at higher education with our taxes
DickInAToaster
In America we give the next generation a chance w loans....that can be paid off before they're 30....and not paid in taxes for life.
condor120
You're right. Instead we pay our taxes to pay for an overinflated defense budget while watching our schools and infrastructure crumble.
valdemarjoergensen
You talk like your system is so much better, but the fact is the average dane is happier in life than an American, so what really matters?
DickInAToaster
Who cares about avgs? What matter to me is MY happiness and the fact that my loans are short term and I have a low tax rate. ????
WilliamHuskerAdama
One illness and you're fucked
Sortofcookiecrazed
Aaaaand that’s 1 of the reasons why USA has prisons filled to the brim. Ghettos and people dying because of missing healthcare. ME ME and ME
valdemarjoergensen
Well ever heard the saying giving is better than receiving? That's how a lot of danes feel. We actually care about people around us.
RonarOfTheRebellion
Ah, a fellow Communist European. I'm happy for you comrade. Don't you love it that people in the US think this is impossible to implement?
DavidBrooker
At the graduate level it usually is. The vast majority of science / engineering / math graduate students are paid positions.
DickInAToaster
We dont think its impossible. We think its unnecessary. My undergrad loans paid off in 5 yrs. Current grad student. Will pay these in less.
RonarOfTheRebellion
That doesn't make it any better. It worked out for you, doesn't mean it will for everybody. There's also, you know, really fucking poor (1)
DickInAToaster
Theres also poor ppl? You mean like I was? Sorta still am? Whats that have to do w anything? Its a loan. An investment in your future self.
RonarOfTheRebellion
The term I used, was "really fucking poor". Not everyone is eligible for a loan.
DickInAToaster
For college in the US? Yes they are.
RonarOfTheRebellion
people. Don't they deserve the chance if qualified for it, solely on the basis of their wealth? Even in your case, instead of paying off (2)
RonarOfTheRebellion
loans, you could have saved that money. You could spend it on shit, which is always good for the economy. Maybe even invest it. All three(3)
RonarOfTheRebellion
choices are better for you and even the people around you.
DickInAToaster
That makes absolutely no sense at all. Its just flat wtong. Please take an intro to finance course or intro to microecon.
erickua
while im here in merica getting my bachelor in computer science with 120k in dept
PermenantlyBannedClubMember
And still can't spell "debt"
PiGuy314
Compiler would have caught that.
Slashinhobo
But how? You can go to school in the silicon valley FT for 10 years and share a room and still pay less than you. did.
erickua
I know. Which im trying to see if I can transfer somewhere else in merica to find cheaper and better education
[deleted]
[deleted]
erickua
what do you mean?
NSATailoredAccessOperationsUnit
*Debt
erickua
*thank you
lickwidghost
He didn't say he's studying literacy :p
erickua
The only thing I know is code
MrBananahat
It is almost like your government wants you to be either uneducated or in debt.
[deleted]
[deleted]
erickua
@AreThereAnyUsernamesThatArentTakenYet you are correct my sir.
TheLegendarySuperStrayan
How the fuck is education so expensive in america holy shitnuggets
PartyLikeIts9999
The only way you should be spending that kind of money is if you're pursuing a doctorate. Spending 120K on a B.S. is for suckers.
ThaiMaiShu
People make stupid decisions on which school to go to, that's how it's that much, my brother only paid about 10k
erickua
biggoat
First mistake. Being born in America. 2nd mistake not going to jr college in CA.
[deleted]
[deleted]
biggoat
Ha ha just sharing the information.
erickua
biggoat
Lol.
ImHereToPissPeopleOff
How? There are so many programs that help pay for comp sci though, not to mention great paying jobs during school
erickua
ImHereToPissPeopleOff
Look at government grants, there are lots of programs that pay for your college and then you work for them for a few years
erickua
yes
JudgeMentalCat
Ha! That's gonna be me in 4 years.
erickua
I pray for you
JudgeMentalCat
Thanks. I'm hoping to escape with minimal debt- work study, apply for every and any scholarship, etc etc
waitwasthatreal
Just know what you want when you get out. Debt isn't an issue if you know you will be able to pay it off.
JudgeMentalCat
Thankfully, Computer Science is a high paying field, and the college I'm going to has a history of CS grads going straight into
JudgeMentalCat
Maybe pick up a Sugar Daddy if I meed to
JudgeMentalCat
**need
DickInAToaster
Thats absurd. I got a similar degree for less than half that. Where are you? Stanford?!
erickua
In 4 years thats 120k. and haha no I wish! but its in New York.
tpan92
IT RECRUITER HERE in nyc what school you go to for 120k ba?? nyu??
DickInAToaster
Well dont blame the system bc you chose to take out loans for an immensely expensive school. Could have gone anywhere for about half that.
erickua
PrincessAzula
I too am in New York with an overpriced cs degree. A fellow RPI student by any chance?
erickua
O shit hey there fellow human. And nope sorry.
ZusakKetchum
Just got accepted to rpi, how is the community (on and off campus)?Also, is its business college good? Still deciding between RPIand purdue.
xzhous
RPI for engineering, Purdue for business
PartyLikeIts9999
Why? You can get a CS degree for much less. I assume you wanted to go to a specific school that you probably should have gone to.
PartyLikeIts9999
*shouldn't
Speqs
Right. I Would have gone to tech if my uni didn't give me a full ride.
JeffDahmer
*Should. Don't care about debt, college was the best time of my life.
luxemonster
I want you to read that again and see if you can understand how idiotic it is.
JeffDahmer
And based on their meaning, my comment is not "idiotic." Thanks though for the unwarranted hate.
luxemonster
It must be an incredible luxury to not worry about debt.
JeffDahmer
OP certainly meant shouldn't based on the rest of their comment, but whatever.
Respond
For someone interested in CS degree, where
slinkydust
Find a local university. They mostly all teach the same stuff. It's what you do/learn on the side that will make you stand out.
PartyLikeIts9999
I have a CS degree and work as a dev and conduct ~20 interviews a year. I couldn't care less about the name of the school on your diploma.
FlippedToast
As someone who is getting a CS degree, what do you care about?
erickua
yes
[deleted]
[deleted]
aleedalee
Wtf dude
ForgotMyOtherAcct
Lol, projecting much? From the word 'yes', the original commenter has horrible social skills. That's quite a reach
erickua
what
ChirpHard
Your insecurities are leaking. That's enough internet for you today. Get some sleep, we'll see you tomorrow.
MyNameIsToaster
You seem like a team player
Albralelie