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Buretsu
"The creator said it was pronounced jif!" "Don't care." "Why is it Nootella instead of Nut-ella?" "Because the creator said so!" Hypocrites.
JohnCheshirsky
Me, looking at all the people in the comments:
solemnwar
I've been pronouncing it with a soft g for years before I knew people pronounced it with a hard g so I ain't stopping now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
wiggadewah
All the C's in Pacific Ocean are pronounced differently.
LISTEN, LEGOLAND!!
malfunctionm1ke
German here, there is no other way to pronounce gif than with a hard "g"
SergeantMajorSpoiler
And here I thought it was 'Jerman'...
freckledkink
German is Deutsch in German. I've yet to encounter a j sound (I'm learning it).
rickchurianmortydate
I guess you've never drank gin before either, German.
no gin but a lot of guinnes
TitillatingPterodactyl
The English language is pretty fucky, not sure why anyone is surprised it’s pronounced in a way contrary to what you want.
It should be a hard G. The g is for graphics.
ICampOntheFirstDate
This is not the only acronym to be pronounced differently that the words it represents, but for some reason its the most controversial.
[deleted]
Way to miss the entire point of my comment
kadaeux
Because literally everybody knows they're an idiot. There are people who were born both blind, deaf and dumb who know it is stupid.
Dreissen
If it were an initialism, you would say G-I-F. The fact that it's spoken as a word (gif/jif) means it is an acronym but not an initialism.
imtur
My dude, if you pronounce gif with 3 syllables then you are worse than the jiffers
vialofcorruption
v
BennyBean1
Look, I can solve this. Let's just all agree to pronounce it "yiff."
oldpotatoes
Digimontana
No, let's not.
SigneowTheCat
tinydog
This one concurs with the council. It will always be jif.
SunshineAndNihilism
As someone working in industry, I literally say "gifjif" every time. Offend everybody :)
Ajediday
Please pronounce JPEG. Remember the P stands for Photographic . I think it would have been funny had he said it was pronounced "Betty"
OhTobiasYouBlowhard
Someone’s a Kung Pow fan
CaptainPawfulFox
imgurianitarian
BlueCanaryInTheOutletByTheLightSwitch
I don't jif a fuck, he's still wrong.
Good, my peanut butter is safe then
awildcloud
Gif*
TheLesserOfTwoWeevils
I've always pronounced it with a hard G. Many of the arguments for a hard G are stupid though. Soft Gs exist. Acronyms don't have to take /1
/2 their sounds from the words they represent. The most stupid thing is giving a shit about such a petty thing at all though.
Ralvuimego
Fauxcused
Choosy fuckers choose jif
SDC333
You can't tell me what to do.
DoctorFrederickFrankenstein
THIS !
MickeyCallahan
I mean, you can, but I won't necessarily do it.
smaard
So how is the word 'gin' pronounced?
Neoeon
Geein. Change my mind.
Flexcalibur
Irrelevant. Gin, giraffe, gist. But also gimlet, give, gilded.
The issue is that hard G had *clearly* become the dominant pronunciation and then this guy rolls up with the ol' "ack-shully..."
And you either think his status as creator supersedes common usage or you don't, and we as a society are at war over that.
And accordingly, if you pronounce it with a soft G, I will fight you
TheTechDweller
Would with it be connected to an acroynm?
The G in gif stands for graphics. Hard G.
necrojoe
But the "O" in "OSHA" stands for Occupational, and we don't say "ahh-sha"
We also don't say Safety and Health both with a "shhhh" sound. That's one which is pronounced based strictly on the letters on its
Abbreviation that form a new word, not the words the individual letters represent. There are several examples of each. Guh-if belongs
To the group where individual letters retain their sounds when shortened to make a shorter word or abbreviation. There are several rules in
kiddub
You mean djinn?
im25ok
How do you pronounce “gift”, a word nearly identical in spelling to “gif”?
bomb, womb, comb. Or, better yet, how about read and read, or lead and lead? Object/object, close/close, or dove, desert, excuse, number?
I’m not sure what your point is. I was responding to someone using similar spgs to argue a point and I was doing the same for the opposite >
point. If my example doesn’t work, neither does theirs - which is my point. The pronunciation of gin doesn’t prove jif is right.
Got it. My thought was that you were using it to argue for the one side, and not simpley de-legitimizing the similar claims on both.
I'm on your side but in fairness English has many "gi-" words with both soft and hard Gs
Totally. I’m only pointing out that the closest word we have to gif is pronounced with a hard g.
That's fair
Isn't the word Gin closer? (3 letters, 1 different). Still, I'd go for (G)if as well ..
I’d say they’re equally close in spelling, both 1 letter off. But starting with an entire word makes them more similar in my books. >
What cowards are downvoting this factual statement? Fight me you punks.
English doesn't work like that. Through, thorough, and trough would like to have a word.
True, but by that exact logic, there is not support for the jif side either.
Except for the guy who created it, giving it its name. We say NASA, OSHA and FOMO the way we do because of the people who coined them.
That is not even remotely how language works
There's both no support and support for it at the same time.
kittykat25909
God himself could not convince me to call it jif, I will look upon his face and call him "jod" as I walk backwards into hell.
Mithi
HER face
MaybeIllDisappear
You mean "I"ehovah?
quietwalker
I was gonna post that, glad to see someone beat me to it.
RayMC
Where’s it from?
just a random internet thing.
whooptydoo
see you at the 'gim', maybe at the zoo by the 'gir'affes. then after we can chare a glass of 'gin', ill buy im feel 'gen'erous
Beefkins
Gin is a borrowed Dutch word and is short for genevre, a translation of juniper because it comes from juniper berries. Gym is short for ->
Gymnasium, from the Greek "gymnos" which is pronounced with a hard G. Both gin and gym are shortened words and do not follow standard rules
for monosyllabic pronunciation.
its gigantically geneeous of you to point that out, my friend george has reminded me though that therea no generic rule to say how a g is
ZoidbergIsGreat
Graphic is a hard g though so hard g in gif seems more logical
catapostrophe
funny how this comment has upvotes but another user wrote it’s a hard g and someone literally went so you dictate what words have hard g’s?!
and that dude got upvoted like what??? what is so hard to understand about how graphics has a hard g
Now I'm trying to say it with a soft g lol 'jraphics'
gif is shorthand for the acronym of graphics... GIF, pronounced jee eye eff.
Yeah, I know that's how the creator wanted it pronounced. But I'm going with hard g like in 'gift'. Soft g sounds too weird to me
RaynSideways
Gift. Gigabyte. Girl. Gimmick. Gilded. Give. Just because it can be pronounced like a J doesn't mean it always is.
Now I want a unit of storage called a Jigabyte.
you literally just said it can be prounced like a j, the inventor says it is pronounced like a j, as you would when saying GIF(jee eye eff),
other filename extensions pull the same shit, see jpeg not jfeg, yet you still want to say it wrong
P is never pronounced with an F sound unless modified by the H in the word Photo. G can be pronounced either way alone. Not the same thing.
Lucallia
the fact that the G stands for Graphic that uses a hard G tells me it should've been Gif not Jif.
the p in jpeg stands for photo so why isnt that pronounced as an f?
gamergeekv2
How do you pronounce SCUBA?
TheMonsterInsideAllofUs
Graphics Interchange Format, not Jraphics Image Format. He's wrong.
Irrelevant, acronyms are not pronounced according to their source words.
heimeyer72
I thought so until literally a few minutes ago. But then: How do you pronounce the letter "G"? That would be "Jee", isn't it? So: "G.I.F"=?
"Jive"?
In that case, scuba should be pronounced "scuhbuh", since it's Underwater, not Oonderwater.
CandidGamera
"uhparatus"?
Aranyszin
Flawed logic. JAG. UNICEF. AIDS. Laser. IMAX are not pronounced as "jaj" "you-ni-cheff" "ads" 'lass-er" or "imax" (soft i)
Inarticulated
It'S PrOnoUnCEd "imahjurr" -imm-gurr staff
athomeplayer
CaptainTypo
NeatoBurritos
ITellBadPuns
Hahaha, the furries will be happy to know this.
LokiShinigami
So, that means the phrase is now "gif in hell?"
Baroonz
TheyDontKnowAndYouCantTellEm
If you think "This settles it" I can assure you you are wrong, OP.
When someone writes "This settles it" they are almost always being sarcastic.
zethphoton5
Did you read the part under where he says he does not recognize it
DeviousSloth
It does for adults.
Wait, you guys are adults?
In the loosest sense of the term.
Lowland
Since when do inventors get to change a language
zafner
The people that invent cartridges generally give names that stick. .357 Magnum, .22 Long Rifle, etc. Technically these are proper names
Tucker933
Never heard of a giant giraffe?
Yes I have, I also have heard of gin
ninefingerdeathgrip
Inventor of ligma changed language
And your everyday, I guess
Raxiel
Who's Steve Jobs?
Ligma balls
Pharya
GOTTEEEM
pigoverthere
Agreed, It's not a Jraphic Interchange Format
So you pronounce "JAG" as "Jaj"? I guess UNICEF is "you-na-cheff"?
Hey man, don't ruin my assertion with facts and logic....
stulfer
Exactly
MDAlchemist
No change required
LychFinderGeneral
Can anyone remind me how Imgur's mascot's name is pronounced?
As a gift
Does that apply to a genius genealogically German gentleman's genuine gingerbread?
Gif-Genius vs Gif-Gift
Poor example. Different construction. A better parallel is 'gift'. Would you like to be reminded how that is pronounced?
LusciousLucius
I dunno, George. Maybe these germs should stop gently generating controversy by "chanGing" languaGe like this. -_-
firehawkcultist
What about Arajorn beinj the kinj of Jondor. And let's not forjet his friends Jandalf, Lejolas, and Jimli
ImALagomorphSam
This gives me the giggles.
tesseract4d2
Okay, but the acronym is Graphics Interchange Format. It makes no sense to change the pronunciation of the G in this case, since it doesn't
Change the ability to pronounce the word.
Quit being pedantic, it's also a fucking acronym and you know what I mean.
TyrannoNerdusRex
If he wanted people to say Jif he should have written “Jif”
shyriath
Remember: choosy moms choose Gif.
imeanYUUUGE
Ok, George. Would you like to pet my giant giraffe? He’s not a fan of gel on his gems.
FarenDin
Fuckin English...
allmenmustgif
QueenVictorian
So in that case I guess we should be pronouncing gin with a hard g?
That's how the food product is spelled.
TheHoleStretcher3000
Geoff will never be Jeff
Cough
bloodystupidusername
It might be if it’s Jefrey with one F Jefrey
jefw1f
I believe in space
goflyblind
Saker82
Why would I ever want to be?
Like they should our good, long-necked friend, the jiraffe.
MrFnortner
And don't forget gaol.
JessicasJonesing
Yeah! Giraffes too! Pronounce it right! Guhraffe.
JaceTiger
You try to jive us sarcasm, but your only jift is a jilded cage to entrap us.
Zan11
Jin and tonic
no its gin, cmon g never makes j sound
nunyobidnis
Gee, how generous of you to post this. Generally, I agree with you, as does my friend Genevieve.
Jyzzzy
Give that girl a gift while you're at it.
McMasterx
Gift
FiveShiftOne
Gist
Gin
rmichelsen480
Steve was an inventor. Not a speller.
Rkfinecake
Are there giselles in Georgia?
Neurisko
I've seen jiant jiraffes there
EvilAristocrat
a true Jenuis
Katateochi
and not made it the abbreviation for Graphics Interchange Format.
Yeah like giant and giraffe! Wait
Ricobe9
Giraffe comes from French
TaxiGhoul
So it matters where it comes from?
Sometimes yes, as it keeps either the full or part of the pronunciation. Ballet, cologne, petite and so on would be pronounced differently
Yeah like Detroit and the Boston Celtics, you always pronounce them like the source language.
If adjusted the pronunciation to how English works
I mean jiant and jiraffe
RackhamTheRed
Like English ever cares about that letters are used
Tumescentpie
Ghoti are not food they are friends.
RevengeOfThePotatomancer
It looks like the word gift, and I give funny gifs as gifts, so it is hard G to me.
BillHaleyandHisBANNEDComments2
It's actually spelt 'Dyiph'. My friend Geoff told me.
MasterPrime
it became jif because of how you pronounce filenames with the extension. say "filename dot gee eye eff" over and over again.
Who says file names out loud?
sgtwhiskeyjack
Anyone in IT.
And a development team in the 80's probably using windows 3.1 would have quite a lot.
idonthaveauser
So .doc is pronounced doce?
Lindulf
Dee oh cee you mean
OptimusChristt
Actually its pronounced "joc"
I dont say. "Gee eye eff" i say "Gif" with the g pronounced like in "give"
dontrike
The damn thing starts with a hard G, why would it change to a J?
Sfinski
Because English language. Plenty of words starting with G are pronounced as j.
The pronunciation of component words in an acronym has never factored into the pronunciation of the acronym.
Jinxer13
Case in point, SCUBA diving would be pronounced "skaba" it that were the case.
Right. Acronyms are pronounced as "how would you pronounce this if it was a word?" Gif is linguistically correct in both cases.
What do the words gin, giraffe, and gesture start with then?
Those would be soft Gs, there's a difference, which I described, but let's ignore that I guess
I get it, so basically, you're dictating which words start with hard or soft Gs. My bad.
tamm516
It's because g followed by e, i, or y, is most often pronounced/ j/.
AzraelEternity
Gift.
gym, giraffe, gin, generous
Yes but the word "gift" literally contains "gif" so your point is moot.
Mustakraken
I (ge)t it. Gotta (gi)ve it to you there. (Gy)roscope. (Gi)mme a few examples?
Gentle, giant, fudge, genius, stingy, gin, geologist, giraffe, general, German, ginger, orgy, gel, gem, generous, gender, page, apogee
Frozendingleberry
And get sued by the Peanut Butter People? Nah
ElbowDeepInTheElbowDeepBandwagon
So it would have been a Jraphic Interchange Format l?
A55TRICKY
Makes just as much sense as pronouncing it jif.
jimmyman999000
Jiraphic
glenlochie
Or Peanut butter
SwankyPotato
Or Jurassic
NonFungibleUsername
Well, it is an old file format.
spittleteets
That's where my mind went. Welcome to Jraphic Park. ::kazoo version of theme::
SamuelTarly
He has a lisp obviously, be kind
reichstein
SweatyNoah
Only sort of valid. It is a borrowed word, one of many. Its language of origin isn’t English.
Gen1Optimus
Precisely
meowvalent
https://youtu.be/9iafa959JvY
Finduses
We all know that the sound of letters has no consistency in English anyway so that argument doesn't hold much water.
Not to mention how the word is pronounced and how the acronym is pronounced isn't necessarily the same.
And example being the c in ccp and Chinese communist party aren't pronounced the same.
thefuzziestofbutts
Yes.
Acarcan
How do you pronounce NASA ? Or laser ?
ShowMeThemCatsFella
Naysay
Followed by. Lahhhserr
TeppeMannen
I say lahhhserr. But then.. to me, you pronounce NASA, "Næsa"
MonocledMonotreme
There are a lot of NASA naysayers these days tho
JacquesKass
Giraffic
agathos
Asking Steve Wilhite how to pronounce gif is like asking George Lucas if Han shot first.
162843
More like asking a linguistics professional how to write java script
braggadocious
George is pronounced with a J sound because it is of Romance language origin followed by a vowel. English is an amalgamation
Ghlargh
Or asking Spielberg which version of E.T. is best...
roboticKittenTamer
That's a trick question, they're all the worst!
zuken
The video game version
SwiftyGuy
Notice how George is pronounced and it starts with a G not a J? So yeah, .gif is pronounced “jif”
broka1702
So what you say is, you buy jifts for birthdays
choakid999
It’s Graphics Interchange Format, not Jraphics Interchange Format
Fine let's ask the Gilmore Girls
modus0
So you'd pronounce it a "jraphics interchange format" then?
gCorgiModel
Where does it say you have to inherit pronunciation from the acronym? ASAP pronunciation doesn’t bring in pronunciation of “as”
There is no rule, but, given the amount of blow-back "jif" seems to get, people's internal pronunciation went with the hard "g" sound
So it's weird the creator of the format when with a different sound. Also, "jif" is easily to confuse verbally with a peanut butter brand.
Jopler420
but han did shoot first
MadCat221
No... Greedo never shot. And I find it hilarious that Disney was okay with Han doing things much worse: like deliberately throwing a mook>
>into the toothy maw of a tentacle monster.
GeeeButtersnaps
Disney's biggest hero for 10 years was an alcoholic playboy warmonger with narcissistic tendencies. They care about allowing the paying fans
Appeasing* not allowing. PS I know Iron Man had a great character arc and became a hero but so did Han that was my point
never said greedo shot. he didnt. just saying han shot first
peruvianfightingmidgets
They edited it to have Greedo fire first to simulate Han acting in self-defence. It was pre-Disney ownership though
"Han shot first" implies at least one subsequent weapon discharge event occurred in the situation. There was no other, originally.
ThatSonOfaBitch
So what you're saying is that even the inventor of the file format itself pronounces it wrong.
tracereading
You're the one who's wrong here and i wish you fuckheads would just find a better hill to die on than a format.
LordHosk
He wasn't the inventor, he was one of two people in charge of the team that 'invented" it. hes just the one with the big head.
ClawsOfTheWolf
DrIcchan
You'd think that people would get the message when you need to write it as JIF when they mean to pronounce the G as J.
Rookie8286
Well, he DID work for AOL at the time so there’s that.
fingerscented
I bet he pronounced AOL too, the goof.
freezingpilot
arianerd
Or... Wronj?
xMCioffi1986x
It's like Bruce Willis saying Die Hard isn't a Christmas movie.
Badseedx3
Just like how sometimes directors misinterpret their own movies and songwriters dont even understand their own songs. It happens.
Werewolfoflondon
Yeah, he’s probably never had a GIRLfriend
AutoFox
Correct. And rightly so.
RedShadow555
Correct
ImJustSoFckingSickOfThisBllsht
unicornsdonotexist
Jraphics interchange format
Munchman347
European explorers thought they had found the Atlantic route to the Orient and called the Native American people 'Indians', were they?...
Baeloro
Yes. People are stupid. Even inventors.
especially people who think its gif. guess they go to the gym
Or they understand English and don't just make stuff up. The inventor literally made shit up 'to be right.' it's the one time in history we
know without a doubt the inventor made stuff up, just to be correct.
'the one time' haha. give me a fucking break. gill, gilded, gillian. you can pronounce a name however the fuck you want
Eville00
One word. "Gift"
four letters 'g'(jee), G. I. F. (jee eye eff => jif)
So it's pronounced Jeyeff in your head? Is English your first language?
PerkyPervertedPet
The conspiracy goes higher than we thougth.
snailbait
Giraffe
exiledenglishman
Loveshead2
Stove can’t pronounce anything right.
CaptainSlower
This goes up higher than I thought
Smartnership
Call it jif as long as you answer the phone “ahoy” like the inventor Bell recommended
dspatch09
Ahoj - pronounced “Ahoy” is how you say hello in some Eastern European languages (Slovakian for one)
YouTubeRed
StrictlyBull
I say ahoy hoi more because of mr burns than Bell.
hwatL4bloopy
I do say ahoy hoy sometimes when I pick up the phone but I still say gif
CargoManshark
I say gif but I do answer the phone "ahoy hoy" like Mr. Burns.
boredactor
i do that too!!!
XanCrews
In a bad impersonation no less. Yep, that’s me!
do you also call it a gym, not 'jym'? how about giraffe?
votic00
I do pronounce the hard g in gig and graphics. In addition Jif peanut butter predates the GIF.
gif isnt capitolized, jts not an acronym its a name. .gif not .GIF
TerraDactyl89
neither of those is an acronym where the G stands for Graphics. Unless you pronounce it 'jraphics' perchance?
gif isnt an acronym either
BlackZero500
rossdonohue
Yes, because you can't just change the sound of a letter. The G is from Graphic so it inherits the hard G sound
ThereAreCrocodiles
Yes. It's like when the makers of Uno tried to tell us you can't follow a draw 4 with a draw 2 to make the next person draw 6. Just wrong.
mksu
I remember Uno as a boring game I played as a small child for lack of better options. I'm shocked to find out it's a societal pillar.
I've heard of stacking cards of the same number, stacking +2's and stacking+4's, but never heard of stacking +2's on +4's.
holdonwhileioverthinkthis
Which is strange because on the app, you can 100% do it.
Hebbelille
On the pc uno game you can only stack 2 on 2 and 4 on 4 if stack rule is on. Not 2 on 4 or 4 on 2.
SarcasticRN
I have never played these rules and it is confusing that this is a thing
CarnackiArdent
I've played with the modifiers stacking up on each other but it was definitely introduced to me as a house rule, not as the default rules.
IOnlyNeedOneBall
Then don't look into the sequel DOS. It's way more convoluted and downright bad.
Why would that ever be a thing? You have to match the color or number. A draw 4 can only be followed by another draw 4.
DigiT00l
Draw 4 is a wild card, not sure who picks colour though
kc2syk
player A drops Draw4. player B picks up 4 cards. next turn is player C, who can play any card.
Dracon27
Player A picks the color, player C would have to match the color Player A picked.
jayman0123
I dunno. I don't make the rules of Uno.
ILikeRespondingWithWillSmithGifs
we follow that rule.. but you can stack +4’s to get +8 or +2’s to rack up cards. Not +4’s & +2’s to add up to 6 or multiples. We no animals
acme64
You wouldn't survive in my household. It's a jungle
TheNamiKage
Proposition: Draw 8, they should act as multipliers not additions. Might need a couple decks though.
Oh no. Draw four is the stop for my version. There has to be a stop somewhere.
CubbyPawws
Well, he created it and named it, so consider if you named your child and lots of people started telling you that you are pronouncing your
Kids name wrong.
DonutTramp
Yeah that is fairly common these days. Parents just decide that words and letters are pronounced a different way
You don't get to decide what their kids are named for them.
Look, you can name your kid Eunice and claim it is pronounced like Phillip but people will still call him Eunice.
There's certain rules to how some things are pronounced according to how they're spelled. And it's not a name as such. It's an abbreviation
Its an acronym, the abbreviation becomes a word itself and the letters in that word are pronounced as such, they are not pronounced
The same was a the words the acronym stands for. No one uses a hard A sound for the first a in Nasa. Also, when you create a thing you get
To name it, and he named it so this argument is moot.
superpaul79
Brett Favre pronounces his surname wrong.
WarpHype
He’s a pretty big dumbass so I wouldn’t be surprised. He’s a Trump stan and a jerk.
LurkerOfDarkness
A shit load of americans pronounce their surnames wrong, because so many of the names aren't english in origin.
do you go to the gym often? whats imgurs mascot, a giraffe?
Do you know the word giraffe comes from French?
dreikommavierzehn
We are now witnessing live how personal opinions win over facts every single time - even on Imgur where we bitch about this every single day
(The fact being that the creator/namegiver chooses the pronunciation. See for instance LaTeX)
MajorasTerribleFate
I'm a Jiffer. Language evolves independently of those who create words and coin phrases, however.
Yes yes, completely agree. My statement was just in regards of the correct/wrong part of the discussion
E.g. PreHypertextProcessor is a generally accepted acronym that developed after creation of the name
A) he's not the specific creator b) it's not a name as such. It's an abbreviation of the name
stray51
Legends say that he chose that pronunciation to mcok some old tv advertisement when he invented the format, but idk the specifics
He definitely mcoked it up
I mean it can't actually be Jif because Jif is trademarked.
Zenshien
For Jif peanut butter apparently - but he's still wrong
Why?
Because its a GRAPHICS interchange format. Not a JRAPHICS interchange format.
capflip
Also OSHA, CAPTCHA, NASDAQ, and UNICEF. I'm sure there are more, but acronyms are not necessarily pronounced based on what they stand for.
Yeah he is wrong but if even he's doing it for the lols, why shouldn't we
KyleButNotThatKyle
The "G" stands for "Graphics", not "Jraphics". The inventor's pronunciation is wrong.
You don't understand how acronyms work at all.
euxneks
Regardless of how you pronounce it, this rule leads to inconsistent results elsewhere: JPEG is an acronym but you don’t say “jay fegg”
YellowSparrow
"jay-phegg"
CRSSWRD
Yeah and the "u" in scuba stands for underwater so you say that wrong too by your logic.
IWasToldThereWasCake
Graphic Interchange Format, if my memory serves me well. You could at best say Gee I Eff. Hmmm... Maybe...?
I use a hard G because it reminds me of the word “gift.” No matter how many soft G comparisons people make, “gift” adds only one letter.
Sahrelli
Yes but that's not how English works. Read and read are spelled identically but pronounced differently based on the tense of the subject
Christmas jifts! My favorite!
gankable
The .gif that keeps on giving.
queeferito
Most acronyms are not pronounced from the words they are derived from, but historical roots. For example “bee o A” vs “bah of A” for “BOA”
But anyways, I will die on the hill that people can pronounce it either way, and neither is more right or wrong than the other.
BOA is an initialism not an acronym
AceP40
that's not how acronyms work
ask2risk
CERN
WatashimoLurky
Ermahgerd! The Kern super-kerlider!
I don't understand, this seems consistent. C is for center suggesting a soft C. I apologize if I am missing the point altogether
C is for Council
Whoops
its not actually an acronym, its a shorthand name, so no hes not. gym, giraffe, 'jif'
grimwyrd
graphics interchange format
its not a .GIF file, its .gif. its no different than a variable name, not an acronym
dragonflyy69
Extensions are all lowercase as a convention, gif still is an acronym for graphics interchange format.
Wait until you find out about .jpeg, .pdf, and .png files.
Pretty sure a *.gif file with the .gif extension is saved in the graphics interchange format, but whatever... you do you whooptydoo.
Buretsu
"The creator said it was pronounced jif!" "Don't care." "Why is it Nootella instead of Nut-ella?" "Because the creator said so!" Hypocrites.
JohnCheshirsky
Me, looking at all the people in the comments:
solemnwar
I've been pronouncing it with a soft g for years before I knew people pronounced it with a hard g so I ain't stopping now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
wiggadewah
All the C's in Pacific Ocean are pronounced differently.
JohnCheshirsky
LISTEN, LEGOLAND!!
malfunctionm1ke
German here, there is no other way to pronounce gif than with a hard "g"
SergeantMajorSpoiler
And here I thought it was 'Jerman'...
freckledkink
German is Deutsch in German. I've yet to encounter a j sound (I'm learning it).
rickchurianmortydate
I guess you've never drank gin before either, German.
malfunctionm1ke
no gin but a lot of guinnes
TitillatingPterodactyl
The English language is pretty fucky, not sure why anyone is surprised it’s pronounced in a way contrary to what you want.
freckledkink
It should be a hard G. The g is for graphics.
ICampOntheFirstDate
This is not the only acronym to be pronounced differently that the words it represents, but for some reason its the most controversial.
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ICampOntheFirstDate
Way to miss the entire point of my comment
kadaeux
Because literally everybody knows they're an idiot. There are people who were born both blind, deaf and dumb who know it is stupid.
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Dreissen
If it were an initialism, you would say G-I-F. The fact that it's spoken as a word (gif/jif) means it is an acronym but not an initialism.
imtur
My dude, if you pronounce gif with 3 syllables then you are worse than the jiffers
vialofcorruption
BennyBean1
Look, I can solve this. Let's just all agree to pronounce it "yiff."
oldpotatoes
Digimontana
No, let's not.
SigneowTheCat
Digimontana
SigneowTheCat
Digimontana
tinydog
This one concurs with the council. It will always be jif.
SunshineAndNihilism
As someone working in industry, I literally say "gifjif" every time. Offend everybody :)
Ajediday
Please pronounce JPEG. Remember the P stands for Photographic . I think it would have been funny had he said it was pronounced "Betty"
OhTobiasYouBlowhard
Someone’s a Kung Pow fan
CaptainPawfulFox
imgurianitarian
BlueCanaryInTheOutletByTheLightSwitch
I don't jif a fuck, he's still wrong.
oldpotatoes
Good, my peanut butter is safe then
awildcloud
Gif*
TheLesserOfTwoWeevils
I've always pronounced it with a hard G. Many of the arguments for a hard G are stupid though. Soft Gs exist. Acronyms don't have to take /1
TheLesserOfTwoWeevils
/2 their sounds from the words they represent. The most stupid thing is giving a shit about such a petty thing at all though.
Ralvuimego
Fauxcused
Choosy fuckers choose jif
SDC333
You can't tell me what to do.
DoctorFrederickFrankenstein
THIS !
MickeyCallahan
I mean, you can, but I won't necessarily do it.
smaard
So how is the word 'gin' pronounced?
Neoeon
Geein. Change my mind.
Flexcalibur
Irrelevant. Gin, giraffe, gist. But also gimlet, give, gilded.
Flexcalibur
The issue is that hard G had *clearly* become the dominant pronunciation and then this guy rolls up with the ol' "ack-shully..."
Flexcalibur
And you either think his status as creator supersedes common usage or you don't, and we as a society are at war over that.
Flexcalibur
And accordingly, if you pronounce it with a soft G, I will fight you
TheTechDweller
Would with it be connected to an acroynm?
freckledkink
The G in gif stands for graphics. Hard G.
necrojoe
But the "O" in "OSHA" stands for Occupational, and we don't say "ahh-sha"
freckledkink
We also don't say Safety and Health both with a "shhhh" sound. That's one which is pronounced based strictly on the letters on its
freckledkink
Abbreviation that form a new word, not the words the individual letters represent. There are several examples of each. Guh-if belongs
freckledkink
To the group where individual letters retain their sounds when shortened to make a shorter word or abbreviation. There are several rules in
kiddub
You mean djinn?
im25ok
How do you pronounce “gift”, a word nearly identical in spelling to “gif”?
necrojoe
bomb, womb, comb. Or, better yet, how about read and read, or lead and lead? Object/object, close/close, or dove, desert, excuse, number?
im25ok
I’m not sure what your point is. I was responding to someone using similar spgs to argue a point and I was doing the same for the opposite >
im25ok
point. If my example doesn’t work, neither does theirs - which is my point. The pronunciation of gin doesn’t prove jif is right.
necrojoe
Got it. My thought was that you were using it to argue for the one side, and not simpley de-legitimizing the similar claims on both.
Flexcalibur
I'm on your side but in fairness English has many "gi-" words with both soft and hard Gs
im25ok
Totally. I’m only pointing out that the closest word we have to gif is pronounced with a hard g.
Flexcalibur
That's fair
smaard
Isn't the word Gin closer? (3 letters, 1 different). Still, I'd go for (G)if as well ..
im25ok
I’d say they’re equally close in spelling, both 1 letter off. But starting with an entire word makes them more similar in my books. >
Flexcalibur
What cowards are downvoting this factual statement? Fight me you punks.
rickchurianmortydate
English doesn't work like that. Through, thorough, and trough would like to have a word.
im25ok
True, but by that exact logic, there is not support for the jif side either.
necrojoe
Except for the guy who created it, giving it its name. We say NASA, OSHA and FOMO the way we do because of the people who coined them.
im25ok
That is not even remotely how language works
rickchurianmortydate
There's both no support and support for it at the same time.
kittykat25909
God himself could not convince me to call it jif, I will look upon his face and call him "jod" as I walk backwards into hell.
Mithi
HER face
MaybeIllDisappear
You mean "I"ehovah?
quietwalker
I was gonna post that, glad to see someone beat me to it.
RayMC
Where’s it from?
quietwalker
just a random internet thing.
whooptydoo
see you at the 'gim', maybe at the zoo by the 'gir'affes. then after we can chare a glass of 'gin', ill buy im feel 'gen'erous
Beefkins
Gin is a borrowed Dutch word and is short for genevre, a translation of juniper because it comes from juniper berries. Gym is short for ->
Beefkins
Gymnasium, from the Greek "gymnos" which is pronounced with a hard G. Both gin and gym are shortened words and do not follow standard rules
Beefkins
for monosyllabic pronunciation.
whooptydoo
its gigantically geneeous of you to point that out, my friend george has reminded me though that therea no generic rule to say how a g is
ZoidbergIsGreat
Graphic is a hard g though so hard g in gif seems more logical
catapostrophe
funny how this comment has upvotes but another user wrote it’s a hard g and someone literally went so you dictate what words have hard g’s?!
catapostrophe
and that dude got upvoted like what??? what is so hard to understand about how graphics has a hard g
ZoidbergIsGreat
Now I'm trying to say it with a soft g lol 'jraphics'
whooptydoo
gif is shorthand for the acronym of graphics... GIF, pronounced jee eye eff.
ZoidbergIsGreat
Yeah, I know that's how the creator wanted it pronounced. But I'm going with hard g like in 'gift'. Soft g sounds too weird to me
RaynSideways
Gift. Gigabyte. Girl. Gimmick. Gilded. Give. Just because it can be pronounced like a J doesn't mean it always is.
Beefkins
Now I want a unit of storage called a Jigabyte.
whooptydoo
you literally just said it can be prounced like a j, the inventor says it is pronounced like a j, as you would when saying GIF(jee eye eff),
whooptydoo
other filename extensions pull the same shit, see jpeg not jfeg, yet you still want to say it wrong
RaynSideways
P is never pronounced with an F sound unless modified by the H in the word Photo. G can be pronounced either way alone. Not the same thing.
Lucallia
the fact that the G stands for Graphic that uses a hard G tells me it should've been Gif not Jif.
whooptydoo
the p in jpeg stands for photo so why isnt that pronounced as an f?
gamergeekv2
How do you pronounce SCUBA?
TheMonsterInsideAllofUs
Graphics Interchange Format, not Jraphics Image Format. He's wrong.
MickeyCallahan
Irrelevant, acronyms are not pronounced according to their source words.
heimeyer72
I thought so until literally a few minutes ago. But then: How do you pronounce the letter "G"? That would be "Jee", isn't it? So: "G.I.F"=?
heimeyer72
"Jive"?
Buretsu
In that case, scuba should be pronounced "scuhbuh", since it's Underwater, not Oonderwater.
CandidGamera
"uhparatus"?
Aranyszin
Flawed logic. JAG. UNICEF. AIDS. Laser. IMAX are not pronounced as "jaj" "you-ni-cheff" "ads" 'lass-er" or "imax" (soft i)
Inarticulated
It'S PrOnoUnCEd "imahjurr" -imm-gurr staff
athomeplayer
CaptainTypo
NeatoBurritos
ITellBadPuns
Neoeon
Hahaha, the furries will be happy to know this.
LokiShinigami
So, that means the phrase is now "gif in hell?"
Baroonz
TheyDontKnowAndYouCantTellEm
If you think "This settles it" I can assure you you are wrong, OP.
MickeyCallahan
When someone writes "This settles it" they are almost always being sarcastic.
zethphoton5
Did you read the part under where he says he does not recognize it
DeviousSloth
It does for adults.
TheyDontKnowAndYouCantTellEm
Wait, you guys are adults?
DeviousSloth
In the loosest sense of the term.
Lowland
Since when do inventors get to change a language
zafner
The people that invent cartridges generally give names that stick. .357 Magnum, .22 Long Rifle, etc. Technically these are proper names
Tucker933
Never heard of a giant giraffe?
Lowland
Yes I have, I also have heard of gin
ninefingerdeathgrip
Inventor of ligma changed language
Lowland
And your everyday, I guess
Raxiel
Who's Steve Jobs?
JohnCheshirsky
Ligma balls
Pharya
GOTTEEEM
pigoverthere
Agreed, It's not a Jraphic Interchange Format
Aranyszin
So you pronounce "JAG" as "Jaj"? I guess UNICEF is "you-na-cheff"?
pigoverthere
Hey man, don't ruin my assertion with facts and logic....
stulfer
Exactly
MDAlchemist
No change required
LychFinderGeneral
Can anyone remind me how Imgur's mascot's name is pronounced?
Lowland
As a gift
LychFinderGeneral
Does that apply to a genius genealogically German gentleman's genuine gingerbread?
Lowland
Gif-Genius vs Gif-Gift
Pharya
Poor example. Different construction. A better parallel is 'gift'. Would you like to be reminded how that is pronounced?
LusciousLucius
I dunno, George. Maybe these germs should stop gently generating controversy by "chanGing" languaGe like this. -_-
firehawkcultist
What about Arajorn beinj the kinj of Jondor. And let's not forjet his friends Jandalf, Lejolas, and Jimli
ImALagomorphSam
This gives me the giggles.
tesseract4d2
Okay, but the acronym is Graphics Interchange Format. It makes no sense to change the pronunciation of the G in this case, since it doesn't
tesseract4d2
Change the ability to pronounce the word.
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tesseract4d2
Quit being pedantic, it's also a fucking acronym and you know what I mean.
TyrannoNerdusRex
If he wanted people to say Jif he should have written “Jif”
shyriath
Remember: choosy moms choose Gif.
imeanYUUUGE
Ok, George. Would you like to pet my giant giraffe? He’s not a fan of gel on his gems.
FarenDin
Fuckin English...
allmenmustgif
QueenVictorian
So in that case I guess we should be pronouncing gin with a hard g?
Aranyszin
That's how the food product is spelled.
TheHoleStretcher3000
Geoff will never be Jeff
kiddub
Cough
bloodystupidusername
It might be if it’s Jefrey with one F Jefrey
jefw1f
I believe in space
goflyblind
Saker82
Why would I ever want to be?
Buretsu
Like they should our good, long-necked friend, the jiraffe.
MrFnortner
And don't forget gaol.
JessicasJonesing
Yeah! Giraffes too! Pronounce it right! Guhraffe.
JaceTiger
You try to jive us sarcasm, but your only jift is a jilded cage to entrap us.
Zan11
Jin and tonic
whooptydoo
no its gin, cmon g never makes j sound
goflyblind
nunyobidnis
Gee, how generous of you to post this. Generally, I agree with you, as does my friend Genevieve.
Jyzzzy
Give that girl a gift while you're at it.
McMasterx
Gift
FiveShiftOne
Gist
MDAlchemist
Gin
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rmichelsen480
Steve was an inventor. Not a speller.
Rkfinecake
Are there giselles in Georgia?
Neurisko
I've seen jiant jiraffes there
EvilAristocrat
a true Jenuis
Katateochi
and not made it the abbreviation for Graphics Interchange Format.
Neurisko
Yeah like giant and giraffe! Wait
Ricobe9
Giraffe comes from French
TaxiGhoul
So it matters where it comes from?
Ricobe9
Sometimes yes, as it keeps either the full or part of the pronunciation. Ballet, cologne, petite and so on would be pronounced differently
Neurisko
Yeah like Detroit and the Boston Celtics, you always pronounce them like the source language.
Ricobe9
If adjusted the pronunciation to how English works
Neurisko
I mean jiant and jiraffe
RackhamTheRed
Like English ever cares about that letters are used
Tumescentpie
Ghoti are not food they are friends.
RevengeOfThePotatomancer
It looks like the word gift, and I give funny gifs as gifts, so it is hard G to me.
BillHaleyandHisBANNEDComments2
It's actually spelt 'Dyiph'. My friend Geoff told me.
MasterPrime
it became jif because of how you pronounce filenames with the extension. say "filename dot gee eye eff" over and over again.
kiddub
Who says file names out loud?
sgtwhiskeyjack
Anyone in IT.
MasterPrime
And a development team in the 80's probably using windows 3.1 would have quite a lot.
idonthaveauser
So .doc is pronounced doce?
Lindulf
Dee oh cee you mean
OptimusChristt
Actually its pronounced "joc"
FarenDin
I dont say. "Gee eye eff" i say "Gif" with the g pronounced like in "give"
dontrike
The damn thing starts with a hard G, why would it change to a J?
Sfinski
Because English language. Plenty of words starting with G are pronounced as j.
FiveShiftOne
The pronunciation of component words in an acronym has never factored into the pronunciation of the acronym.
Jinxer13
Case in point, SCUBA diving would be pronounced "skaba" it that were the case.
FiveShiftOne
Right. Acronyms are pronounced as "how would you pronounce this if it was a word?" Gif is linguistically correct in both cases.
rickchurianmortydate
What do the words gin, giraffe, and gesture start with then?
dontrike
Those would be soft Gs, there's a difference, which I described, but let's ignore that I guess
rickchurianmortydate
I get it, so basically, you're dictating which words start with hard or soft Gs. My bad.
tamm516
It's because g followed by e, i, or y, is most often pronounced/ j/.
AzraelEternity
Gift.
whooptydoo
gym, giraffe, gin, generous
AzraelEternity
Yes but the word "gift" literally contains "gif" so your point is moot.
Mustakraken
I (ge)t it. Gotta (gi)ve it to you there. (Gy)roscope. (Gi)mme a few examples?
tamm516
Gentle, giant, fudge, genius, stingy, gin, geologist, giraffe, general, German, ginger, orgy, gel, gem, generous, gender, page, apogee
Frozendingleberry
And get sued by the Peanut Butter People? Nah
ElbowDeepInTheElbowDeepBandwagon
So it would have been a Jraphic Interchange Format l?
goflyblind
A55TRICKY
Makes just as much sense as pronouncing it jif.
jimmyman999000
Jiraphic
glenlochie
Or Peanut butter
SwankyPotato
Or Jurassic
NonFungibleUsername
Well, it is an old file format.
spittleteets
That's where my mind went. Welcome to Jraphic Park. ::kazoo version of theme::
SamuelTarly
He has a lisp obviously, be kind
reichstein
SweatyNoah
Only sort of valid. It is a borrowed word, one of many. Its language of origin isn’t English.
Gen1Optimus
Precisely
meowvalent
https://youtu.be/9iafa959JvY
Finduses
We all know that the sound of letters has no consistency in English anyway so that argument doesn't hold much water.
Finduses
Not to mention how the word is pronounced and how the acronym is pronounced isn't necessarily the same.
Finduses
And example being the c in ccp and Chinese communist party aren't pronounced the same.
thefuzziestofbutts
Yes.
Acarcan
How do you pronounce NASA ? Or laser ?
ShowMeThemCatsFella
Naysay
ShowMeThemCatsFella
Followed by. Lahhhserr
TeppeMannen
I say lahhhserr. But then.. to me, you pronounce NASA, "Næsa"
MonocledMonotreme
There are a lot of NASA naysayers these days tho
JacquesKass
Giraffic
agathos
Asking Steve Wilhite how to pronounce gif is like asking George Lucas if Han shot first.
162843
More like asking a linguistics professional how to write java script
braggadocious
George is pronounced with a J sound because it is of Romance language origin followed by a vowel. English is an amalgamation
Ghlargh
Or asking Spielberg which version of E.T. is best...
roboticKittenTamer
That's a trick question, they're all the worst!
zuken
The video game version
SwiftyGuy
Notice how George is pronounced and it starts with a G not a J? So yeah, .gif is pronounced “jif”
broka1702
So what you say is, you buy jifts for birthdays
choakid999
It’s Graphics Interchange Format, not Jraphics Interchange Format
agathos
Fine let's ask the Gilmore Girls
modus0
So you'd pronounce it a "jraphics interchange format" then?
gCorgiModel
Where does it say you have to inherit pronunciation from the acronym? ASAP pronunciation doesn’t bring in pronunciation of “as”
modus0
There is no rule, but, given the amount of blow-back "jif" seems to get, people's internal pronunciation went with the hard "g" sound
modus0
So it's weird the creator of the format when with a different sound. Also, "jif" is easily to confuse verbally with a peanut butter brand.
Jopler420
but han did shoot first
MadCat221
No... Greedo never shot. And I find it hilarious that Disney was okay with Han doing things much worse: like deliberately throwing a mook>
MadCat221
>into the toothy maw of a tentacle monster.
GeeeButtersnaps
Disney's biggest hero for 10 years was an alcoholic playboy warmonger with narcissistic tendencies. They care about allowing the paying fans
GeeeButtersnaps
Appeasing* not allowing. PS I know Iron Man had a great character arc and became a hero but so did Han that was my point
Jopler420
never said greedo shot. he didnt. just saying han shot first
peruvianfightingmidgets
They edited it to have Greedo fire first to simulate Han acting in self-defence. It was pre-Disney ownership though
MadCat221
"Han shot first" implies at least one subsequent weapon discharge event occurred in the situation. There was no other, originally.
ThatSonOfaBitch
So what you're saying is that even the inventor of the file format itself pronounces it wrong.
tracereading
You're the one who's wrong here and i wish you fuckheads would just find a better hill to die on than a format.
LordHosk
He wasn't the inventor, he was one of two people in charge of the team that 'invented" it. hes just the one with the big head.
ClawsOfTheWolf
DrIcchan
You'd think that people would get the message when you need to write it as JIF when they mean to pronounce the G as J.
Rookie8286
Well, he DID work for AOL at the time so there’s that.
fingerscented
I bet he pronounced AOL too, the goof.
freezingpilot
arianerd
Or... Wronj?
xMCioffi1986x
It's like Bruce Willis saying Die Hard isn't a Christmas movie.
Badseedx3
Just like how sometimes directors misinterpret their own movies and songwriters dont even understand their own songs. It happens.
Werewolfoflondon
Yeah, he’s probably never had a GIRLfriend
AutoFox
Correct. And rightly so.
RedShadow555
Correct
ImJustSoFckingSickOfThisBllsht
unicornsdonotexist
Jraphics interchange format
Munchman347
European explorers thought they had found the Atlantic route to the Orient and called the Native American people 'Indians', were they?...
Baeloro
Yes. People are stupid. Even inventors.
whooptydoo
especially people who think its gif. guess they go to the gym
Baeloro
Or they understand English and don't just make stuff up. The inventor literally made shit up 'to be right.' it's the one time in history we
Baeloro
know without a doubt the inventor made stuff up, just to be correct.
whooptydoo
'the one time' haha. give me a fucking break. gill, gilded, gillian. you can pronounce a name however the fuck you want
Eville00
One word. "Gift"
whooptydoo
four letters 'g'(jee), G. I. F. (jee eye eff => jif)
Eville00
So it's pronounced Jeyeff in your head? Is English your first language?
PerkyPervertedPet
The conspiracy goes higher than we thougth.
snailbait
Giraffe
exiledenglishman
Loveshead2
Stove can’t pronounce anything right.
CaptainSlower
This goes up higher than I thought
Smartnership
Call it jif as long as you answer the phone “ahoy” like the inventor Bell recommended
dspatch09
Ahoj - pronounced “Ahoy” is how you say hello in some Eastern European languages (Slovakian for one)
YouTubeRed
StrictlyBull
I say ahoy hoi more because of mr burns than Bell.
hwatL4bloopy
I do say ahoy hoy sometimes when I pick up the phone but I still say gif
CargoManshark
I say gif but I do answer the phone "ahoy hoy" like Mr. Burns.
boredactor
i do that too!!!
XanCrews
In a bad impersonation no less. Yep, that’s me!
whooptydoo
do you also call it a gym, not 'jym'? how about giraffe?
votic00
I do pronounce the hard g in gig and graphics. In addition Jif peanut butter predates the GIF.
whooptydoo
gif isnt capitolized, jts not an acronym its a name. .gif not .GIF
TerraDactyl89
neither of those is an acronym where the G stands for Graphics. Unless you pronounce it 'jraphics' perchance?
whooptydoo
gif isnt an acronym either
BlackZero500
Exactly
rossdonohue
Yes, because you can't just change the sound of a letter. The G is from Graphic so it inherits the hard G sound
ThereAreCrocodiles
Yes. It's like when the makers of Uno tried to tell us you can't follow a draw 4 with a draw 2 to make the next person draw 6. Just wrong.
mksu
I remember Uno as a boring game I played as a small child for lack of better options. I'm shocked to find out it's a societal pillar.
MonocledMonotreme
I've heard of stacking cards of the same number, stacking +2's and stacking+4's, but never heard of stacking +2's on +4's.
holdonwhileioverthinkthis
Which is strange because on the app, you can 100% do it.
Hebbelille
On the pc uno game you can only stack 2 on 2 and 4 on 4 if stack rule is on. Not 2 on 4 or 4 on 2.
SarcasticRN
I have never played these rules and it is confusing that this is a thing
CarnackiArdent
I've played with the modifiers stacking up on each other but it was definitely introduced to me as a house rule, not as the default rules.
IOnlyNeedOneBall
Then don't look into the sequel DOS. It's way more convoluted and downright bad.
ElbowDeepInTheElbowDeepBandwagon
Why would that ever be a thing? You have to match the color or number. A draw 4 can only be followed by another draw 4.
DigiT00l
Draw 4 is a wild card, not sure who picks colour though
kc2syk
player A drops Draw4. player B picks up 4 cards. next turn is player C, who can play any card.
Dracon27
Player A picks the color, player C would have to match the color Player A picked.
jayman0123
ThereAreCrocodiles
I dunno. I don't make the rules of Uno.

ILikeRespondingWithWillSmithGifs
we follow that rule.. but you can stack +4’s to get +8 or +2’s to rack up cards. Not +4’s & +2’s to add up to 6 or multiples. We no animals
acme64
You wouldn't survive in my household. It's a jungle
TheNamiKage
Proposition: Draw 8, they should act as multipliers not additions. Might need a couple decks though.
hwatL4bloopy
Oh no. Draw four is the stop for my version. There has to be a stop somewhere.
CubbyPawws
Well, he created it and named it, so consider if you named your child and lots of people started telling you that you are pronouncing your
CubbyPawws
Kids name wrong.
DonutTramp
Yeah that is fairly common these days. Parents just decide that words and letters are pronounced a different way
CubbyPawws
You don't get to decide what their kids are named for them.
DonutTramp
Look, you can name your kid Eunice and claim it is pronounced like Phillip but people will still call him Eunice.
Ricobe9
There's certain rules to how some things are pronounced according to how they're spelled. And it's not a name as such. It's an abbreviation
CubbyPawws
Its an acronym, the abbreviation becomes a word itself and the letters in that word are pronounced as such, they are not pronounced
CubbyPawws
The same was a the words the acronym stands for. No one uses a hard A sound for the first a in Nasa. Also, when you create a thing you get
CubbyPawws
To name it, and he named it so this argument is moot.
superpaul79
Brett Favre pronounces his surname wrong.
WarpHype
He’s a pretty big dumbass so I wouldn’t be surprised. He’s a Trump stan and a jerk.
LurkerOfDarkness
A shit load of americans pronounce their surnames wrong, because so many of the names aren't english in origin.
whooptydoo
do you go to the gym often? whats imgurs mascot, a giraffe?
Ricobe9
Do you know the word giraffe comes from French?
dreikommavierzehn
We are now witnessing live how personal opinions win over facts every single time - even on Imgur where we bitch about this every single day
dreikommavierzehn
(The fact being that the creator/namegiver chooses the pronunciation. See for instance LaTeX)
MajorasTerribleFate
I'm a Jiffer. Language evolves independently of those who create words and coin phrases, however.
dreikommavierzehn
Yes yes, completely agree. My statement was just in regards of the correct/wrong part of the discussion
dreikommavierzehn
E.g. PreHypertextProcessor is a generally accepted acronym that developed after creation of the name
Ricobe9
A) he's not the specific creator b) it's not a name as such. It's an abbreviation of the name
stray51
Legends say that he chose that pronunciation to mcok some old tv advertisement when he invented the format, but idk the specifics
Smartnership
He definitely mcoked it up
Eville00
I mean it can't actually be Jif because Jif is trademarked.
Zenshien
For Jif peanut butter apparently - but he's still wrong
sgtwhiskeyjack
Why?
kadaeux
Because its a GRAPHICS interchange format. Not a JRAPHICS interchange format.
capflip
Also OSHA, CAPTCHA, NASDAQ, and UNICEF. I'm sure there are more, but acronyms are not necessarily pronounced based on what they stand for.
stray51
Yeah he is wrong but if even he's doing it for the lols, why shouldn't we
KyleButNotThatKyle
The "G" stands for "Graphics", not "Jraphics". The inventor's pronunciation is wrong.
tracereading
You don't understand how acronyms work at all.
euxneks
Regardless of how you pronounce it, this rule leads to inconsistent results elsewhere: JPEG is an acronym but you don’t say “jay fegg”
YellowSparrow
"jay-phegg"
CRSSWRD
Yeah and the "u" in scuba stands for underwater so you say that wrong too by your logic.
IWasToldThereWasCake
Exactly
heimeyer72
Graphic Interchange Format, if my memory serves me well. You could at best say Gee I Eff. Hmmm... Maybe...?
RayMC
I use a hard G because it reminds me of the word “gift.” No matter how many soft G comparisons people make, “gift” adds only one letter.
Sahrelli
Yes but that's not how English works. Read and read are spelled identically but pronounced differently based on the tense of the subject
YellowSparrow
Christmas jifts! My favorite!
gankable
The .gif that keeps on giving.
queeferito
Most acronyms are not pronounced from the words they are derived from, but historical roots. For example “bee o A” vs “bah of A” for “BOA”
queeferito
But anyways, I will die on the hill that people can pronounce it either way, and neither is more right or wrong than the other.
rossdonohue
BOA is an initialism not an acronym
AceP40
that's not how acronyms work
ask2risk
CERN
WatashimoLurky
Ermahgerd! The Kern super-kerlider!
rossdonohue
I don't understand, this seems consistent. C is for center suggesting a soft C. I apologize if I am missing the point altogether
ask2risk
C is for Council
rossdonohue
Whoops
whooptydoo
its not actually an acronym, its a shorthand name, so no hes not. gym, giraffe, 'jif'
grimwyrd
graphics interchange format
whooptydoo
its not a .GIF file, its .gif. its no different than a variable name, not an acronym
dragonflyy69
Extensions are all lowercase as a convention, gif still is an acronym for graphics interchange format.
KyleButNotThatKyle
Wait until you find out about .jpeg, .pdf, and .png files.
grimwyrd
Pretty sure a *.gif file with the .gif extension is saved in the graphics interchange format, but whatever... you do you whooptydoo.