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Cuppoteam
Sure wish there was someone to whole these judges to account.
someJoeShmoe
Google says he was arrested in Feb 2016
UncleRat
You either have the law, or you have justice. You can't have both at the same time.
ScienceIsNotALiberalConspiracy
https://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article29586022.html
thevortexmaster
I'm in Canada. My brothers BF, unarmed business owner was beat to death by 5 cops over a minor altercation. they never saw justice
Pwnzistor
Please check your fucking facts before posting shit Naramore was arrested on February 11, 2016, and charged with negligent homicide
GoodGraces
ELITE HYPOCRISY.
thatjamies
Starfury42
Just like the rich kid in CA that raped someone and got 6 months.
AMPM2020
the justice system is messed up, but he was arrested and there was a trial.
BumbleBeeBeardedGingerBear
What happened w/1 is nightmare inducing. Daycare was close to his office. He went to pick his son up & realized he'd never dropped him off.
BumbleBeeBeardedGingerBear
The baby was 18m old & just cooked in the car while he was obliviously working. Weed should be decriminalized, but #1 terrifies me.
Northstar219
My grandpa warned me decades ago "never make close friends with a judge, because if you make them mad theres nobody more dangerous"
Northstar219
In the US, the things judges can get away with is absolutely incredible. They are in a league of their own
schlockchurch
A woman in my town left her kid in her car a few years back and the baby died. She was reviled. DA chose not to prosecute. It was the right>
schlockchurch
decision. She and her husband had tried for years. Her husband left shortly after. It's tragic, but it happens for myriad reasons.
Eileen3402
America is stuffed!
Toiletbrowser365
This is quality FB material
dizzyturtle
Not if you care about facts.
MultiOfPersonality
Anyone who leaves their kid in a hot car to die should be fucking executed. I don't wanna hear "I forgot". That's your KID U FOOL
ImHidingFromMyKids
I think many of these parents would agree with you after accidentally killing their own child.
MultiOfPersonality
Good they should
ThomasReactionLord
Kyler Carriker is the son of a politician who had meth, heroin, pills and was involved in a deadly shootout. F them both.
annonymouse211
I think the forgetting your kid in a hot car is a collosal tragedy for the parent(s). Can you even imagine the feeling?? It's not murder.
thefreckledfox
I have twins and was constantly terrified I would do this when they were little.I had nightmares about it!It could happen toany tired parent
cheddarhat
I, too, like to make wildly unrelated comparisons.
AngryGraphicDesigner
If you’re American you should know there are 2 justice systems, and you should know your place - police/judges
Psychobeanz
I don't understand the forgetting your kid in a hot car thing. I really don't and I won't even pretend to. I have a four year old son. Never
whatsisname
Read the Washington post article titled "fatal distraction". You're not as infallible as you think.
Imalwaysready
I really wish people would grow up and stop pretending this is so impossible to do. Everyone wants to pretend to feel superior, I guess.
Sealkin
My story:
schlockchurch
This is super common. I'm glad it was fine, and that you shared it; people need to know it can happen, and why.
whatsisname
Yep, there is often a common theme to these stories: a change of routine.
schlockchurch
The absolute most common theme from the stories I've read.
Sealkin
Yes. It doesn't even need to be overworking, baby exhaustion, or sleep deprivation. But it's usually that too. And brain autopilot is real.
Fuzzynubz
If money can prevent you from serving time, that's not Justice. It's control of the poor and tax for the rich.
monkeydwolfwood
Look up the case of the Dupont aire
Fuzzynubz
Wow. What a piece of garbage
monkeydwolfwood
Right it pissed me off so much
BaleZur
"But replacing judges with AI is stupid" *rando idiot downvoting this comment*
BaleZur
Just to clarify, people don't like the idea using AI to supplement and eventually replace judges. They happen to be ignorant of AI too.
captainhappen
Kyle was busted with a shit ton of meth, heroin, a pistol and has an open case for kidnapping. https://tdn.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/p
captainhappen
Different Carricker apparently my bad.
BearRidingATrex
And the judge was arrested and stood trial in 2016.
BearRidingATrex
https://www.thv11.com/amp/article/life/style/trends/timeline-events-leading-up-to-naramore-trial-after-sons-hot-car-death/91-43633381
captainhappen
https://tdn.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/police-seize-thousands-of-dollars-worth-of-illegal-narcotics-in-longview-tuesday/article_a59ad85
captainhappen
*Kyle* carricker, my bad, different guy. Klyer shot someone in a weed deal.
warrenwoodworks8888
I believe Kyler Carriker was acquitted 7 or 8 years ago, but yes, the guy that left his kid in the car should be charged
verticalbaconsandwich
He should be locked in a hot car for hours.
PyroDragon
*should be left in a hot car that is rigged so that it is impossible to get out of without outside help
L1ttl3J1m
What for? There's no punishment could be worse than what they will already be suffering themselves, for the rest of their life.
IStartConversationsAndThenGetBoredWithMyOwnPoint
ok but you cant have this loophole where crazy parents who want to kill their kids can just do what that guy did and point to a ng precedent
MaximumWesker
Then punish the crazy parents who do it purposely. Don't pretend it's "justice" to punish a grieving parent who made an awful, awful mistake
Solkanarmy
they still killed a child, their relationship to that child shouldn't be a mitigating factor
MaximumWesker
Laws are created to serve a purpose. Do you feel it serves a purpose to imprison a grieving parent who made the worst mistake of their life?
Crowscrown
Can you be in prison for killing your own child on accident? I feel like that is a punishment on its own.
RoseDandy
Nope, it is neglect the child suffered because the judge couldn't be bothered to pay attention.
Sealkin
It usually destroys the marriage and pretty much the entire life of the parent who does it by accident. And yes, it can happen. "Autopilot"
mkwai
Yes, involuntary manslaughter. But I think the defence often wins, so I'd be surprised if they tried consistently.
Makerofroads
It was for negligent homicide. And the dude got off. Even if he had been found guilty, it is only a year in prison and a $2,000 fine.
Crowscrown
So this post makes no sense then. Killing your own child on accident is a hellish nightmare of itself. Going to prison won't make any sense.
Arcanum3000
The defense wins because it's very rarely negligence in any normal sense. It's more like when you forget to grab the box of stuff you need>
Arcanum3000
> to bring to work. You're thinking you need to bring it, but it's not part of your routine, so one mental interruption and it's gone.>
Arcanum3000
> Only much later do you realize what has happened. Box or baby doesn't matter: It's the same flaw in human thought processes.
pyroshen
Depends on the jury/judge. Could be manslaughter by negligence. It happens more often than it should
Crowscrown
So there is no clear law then?
jursamaj
Oh, no, there *are* multiple laws that cover it, depending how a prosecutor wants to frame it. Whether a prosecutor thinks it's (1/2)
jursamaj
worth trying is the issue. If he loses the case, he looks like he's kicking a person while they're down. (2/2)
BearRidingATrex
The judge was arrested and tried in 2016. This meme is straight up lies.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
Was he convicted?
DidItForScience
Well that's a lame bunch of misinformation from @OP
coffeeandprozac
This is why I read the comments, sometimes I don't have to look it up. Thanks
Arguile
You wouldn’t have to arrest me. I’d take care of myself if I did that.
thevortexmaster
@op
storebrandproductmascot
And found not guilty. Which seems impossible based on the circumstances.
palmo
*Misinformation. This meme was true in 2015. But the situation changed for both of them.
smax410
Yeah, the story still isn’t good. He forgot to drop his kid off at daycare and instead went into work with the kid in the backseat…
smax410
https://ballotpedia.org/Wade_Naramore
Corrodias
That happens more than you might expect. Humans are creatures of routine. Things that deviate from that routine are often overlooked.
knightofnarg
Yes, when you're caring for a <4 month old and experiencing maximum sleep deprivation, not after 2 years and toddlers make noise
Corrodias
They don't if they're asleep.
WolfofEdensGate
How do you forget your kid?
fourtwentysiztyninecoolguy
I always ask this. My spawn is the light of my life, but not for a moment in the years ive known them have they been quiet enough to forget
Muffinburgler
Easily. Have you never been on autopilot?
Klpincoyo
There was a young single mom who was beyond exhausted and forgot her baby was in the back seat and went to work:(
Corrodias
That happens more than you might expect. Humans are creatures of routine. Things that deviate from that routine are often overlooked.
HeresYourSauce
Exhaustion.
whatsisname
It often doesn't have to be that. Change of routine is a more likely factor.
polarbearbaby
You don’t.
CityYeti
Idk, even when I was sleep deprived, I never forgot the kid. I would often look in the mirror to make sure they're still ok
whatsisname
Most kids aren't visible in the mirror when they are in rear-facing car seats. That + sleeping kid + change of routine == trouble.
skinnyarbuckle
How, indeed.
Imalwaysready
I really wish people would grow up and stop pretending this is so impossible to do. Everyone wants to pretend to feel superior, I guess.
HelpfulCorn
I was always terrified of this knowing how possible it was.
Tarlon
"No, I could never do anything wrong. I don't need to self-reflect because I'm not evil so I don't need to learn anything about myself."
DetectiveFrankDrebin
These comments are horrifying. Forgetting your kid in a hot car and letting them die should never be normalized.
KaptainObveeus
If you don't acknowledge how easily this can happen you might do it yourself.
Atomic2
nobody is normalizing it, but admitting to ourselves that this can easily happen if you're not careful is the first step to ensuring you >>
LordHosk
There is a difference between excusing or normalizing the behavior and recognizing that yes, people fuck up and forget their children.
Imalwaysready
I'm sorry you can't understand the science involved. It is a tragedy, but 99% of the time, it is neither legally negligent nor murder.
Convolutions
They aren't normalizing it. They're humanizing it. We are all but human. This isn't ok, but as a human, consider it wasn't intentional. 1/2.
Preincarnated
You speak from a position of sheer ignorance and self-aggrandizing false superiority. Understanding is not normalizing.
TheDevourerOfCake
Ever have your body go into Autopilot while tired?
gyzmok
THIS. This is why I never run red lights, when I happen to go on autopilot I want my "default" reaction to be to stop (note, on bicycle).
otherJeffsarefalseJeffs
I go on autopilot all the time, used to drive 120mi/day on the NJTP and have no memory of the drive. And I’m forgetful AF 1/2