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Hundreds of years of scientific experimentation vs. an hour of googling
Source: https://www.facebook.com/welovegv/photos/a.1426021914334526/2235609053375804/?type=3
Jakemajsl
I'll just leave this here. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/04/measles-outbreak-traced-fully-vaccinated-patient-first-time
NoCityBoy
ahahahahaaahahahahahaaa
WetDreamsDontDryFKADiscountJeffGoldblum
How about get vaccinated AND take vitamins?
candar
Lol, as if they put in an hour
rdmguy
Kopar
One of my favorite scenes in a movie. Totally-fucked, pretty-out-of-it defiance.
Thismanneedsaname
What do you do. Just sit there and wait?
TheCollect
Whatever your stance; kids don’t deserve to die. And they certainly shouldn’t be punished for the wrongs of their parents.
TCGView
I feel like that should be a water gun that Tom is holding.
Ubermenschisch
You forgot to add the part where the vaccine plane drops a bomb on the measles tank and destroys it.
StupidAutocorrect
Fuck anti-vaxers. They are destroying all the advancement mankind gas made in medication and healthcare.
Cheomesh
Destroying? No. They are, however, ignoring it at their own peril.
BeerAndChips
And at the expense of those who can't be vaccinated
Thor1229
Dont forget their essential oils and collodial silver.
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
reddenbocker
Time heals all wounds with DEATH. Laughter is the best EMOTIONAL medicine (and even then only sometimes).
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
I get a cut, I don't die waiting for it to heal. Robin Williams was always laughing yet he committed suicide. Either aren't the best.
ThoughtSandwich
excess Vitamin C does give you a diarrhea.
PossibleSarcasm
I like how topic has become so hyperbolic that there is no way to talk about it, except in weak platitudes attacking extremists.
InquisitorLexaeloftheOrdoHereticus
It's because anti-vaxxers just won't listen. You can't "talk about it" with them because they substitute their perceptions over reality.
realargonwolf
I mean we could physically attack the extremists, but then we'd kind of become the extremists...
Camelspotting
If you can't come up with evidence for both sides there's not really anything to talk about.
PossibleSarcasm
E.g. say in the future there was a vaccine that accidentally had some negative side effects, it would be hard to inform people about it -
PossibleSarcasm
without them thinking you're an anti-vaxxer who thinks vaccines in general are bad.
Thesimpleman
Should do a gif version where each shot is like "essential oils" "vitamin c" "crystals" and then it blows up and the plane is "vaccines"
Imiko
Obviously Measles is just a byproduct of a non-organic, non-vegan diet. They need to be called "Meatsles." #Facetious.
ArthurPhillipDent
I mean... An hour on google is still going to tell you that vaccines are a good thing. You have to be WILLFULLY ignorant
deadpoolislovedeadpoolislife
One of those tags is not like the other
mstalltree
Same is true for fighting flu with vitamin C. Excess Vit. C does nothing. Get your bloody flu vaccine.
madman604
Reminds me of Lois Lane in Superman
MisterLemons
The P51 dropping the bomb is 'Herd Immunity'
AbidiAbida
I work in tech & many engineers are anti-vaxer because they believe that big pharma and Republicans are pushing vaccine for profit. (??)
Thismanneedsaname
Military has to get Anthrax vaccine even when there is no military need for it. 14 separate shots. This to keep the production line open
realargonwolf
That's just pathetic really, we can hope they won't have kids.
HatredandVitriol
Spent billions on special effects and sets, can't get a good Tiger replica. Look at it, it has the downs.
SaFalken
THANK YOU. I was staring at it, scratching my head.
SaFalken
Apparently it's a T34-85 dressed up.
CrazyforRAMU
Between SPR and Fury, apparently you can get a bitching real Tiger or a truly moving script, but never both in the same movie.
Cheomesh
Is Fury bad? I was tempted to see it but I mean Pitt's not so great at acting anymore.
CrazyforRAMU
It's not bad. Remarkable action scenes. But it's so relentlessly grim that it becomes unintentionally juvenile. Like the WH40K take on WW2.
Cheomesh
Ah, got you.
TheManInTheWall
Considering there is only one working Tiger I in the world (kept at Bovington, used in Fury), its difficult to use a proper one. They
TheManInTheWall
Dressed up a T-34-85 since there was so many of them left after the war and theyre cheap to buy as far as tanks go
Cheomesh
Or even the names of the tanks right. ...why is a Marder even in the town to begin with?
fpsnoob
The one hour on Google is digging past page 20 looking for an answer you want to hear.
Kazzakashi
I get what your doing here and I agree, but the tank blows up in this scene
MyTrueIdiotSelf990
It wasn't due to Cpt. Miller's peashooter though. . .
Gloriously
Doesn't Tom's character live after this scene?
Thismanneedsaname
For a few more minutes, just enough time to tie up loose ends between the opening and closing scenes
JuiceJive
For about as long as it takes him to groan at Matt Damon. Air support takes out the Tiger while he's shooting at it.
CigaretteMan
Nope. He's mortally wounded at this point, dies a short time after, after this scene
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AtsaMattaForYou
steikewaffel
the 1 million results is about mercury, the one result proving the link is on aluminium.
dissociativeidentitydisorder
JUST BECAUSE I HAVE IT DOESNT MEAN ITS TRUE!!!!
felixbjohansson361
We should ether quarantine them far away or exterminate the anti-vaxers for the safety of mankind.
HereIGoLurkingAgain
Zach538
InquisitorLexaeloftheOrdoHereticus
The Imperial Truth
DefinetlyNotARussianSpy
The truth the Emperor himself wished to spread, and which ironically you'll be executed for saying in the 4...2nd? Millenium
ErrorUsernameNotSetToInstanceofAnObject
It’s now the 42nd.
DefinetlyNotARussianSpy
Still haven't gotten used to it
Dionysus187
what does slaanesh have to say?
malachilenomade
reddenbocker
You know what Slannesh has to say. 'Fuck it. Fuck everything. Shove it up your ass.' And so on.
Hybris51129
They would support vaccines that way you are healthy enough for more fun.
ErrorUsernameNotSetToInstanceofAnObject
Or they’d say not to so that you can experience more exquisite sensations of pain. Slaanesh is versatile.
Hybris51129
GodEmperorNerp
Fuck Slaanesh ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
realargonwolf
Sounds about right
Dionysus187
well that's probably what slaanesh would say in response
obsidianomens4
TheSeanannigan
Perfect analogy. The airstrike/artillery that hits the tank are vaccines
someguyyy
i'm guessing it was an airstrike because artillery can't pierce takn
bigguywhokills
Or herd immunity.
Arracor
Antivaxxers don't believe in air support.
realargonwolf
I know it's not part of the movie, but I feel the analogy would work better if vaccines were landmines.
PureOdio
You know they'd just go around taking all the credit for other people's results: "Yeah, that was me, I achieved the physically impossible."
mpangelu
More like the herd immunity .
ASongOfPissAndFarts
This. To the top with you.
oodaloop
Which is made possible by vaccines
DanteLidge
So vaccines are the fuel in the planes?
oodaloop
More like the vaccines are the planes delivering the herd immunity to the target
fuccengotem
And the fuel melts the steel beams?
Fairemont
Steel tanks.
exlurker42
The vitamin C thing....a deficiency will compromise your immune systesm but there's no clinical evidence that an excess boosts it.
J0765
These facts assume the person isn’t deficient. There’s no vitamin C in Quarter pounder.
LarryTesler
A megadose of vitamin can even be dangerous
Mercenarity
An anti-vaxxer will see the word "clinical" and rebel against the rest of the statement.
exlurker42
Unless it's that one debunked study, though the vitamin C myth goes a lot further than them
0xBADA55
It doesn’t boost u, however, in the long run all the excess can contribute to kidney stones or something related
Lostchild12
Yes, It is recommended those with kidney stones do not exceed 500 Mg per day.
Cheomesh
Yeah, do definitely maintain C intake but yeah...it's not going to cure much beyond scurvy.
allthesameisawitfirst
If you want to do some further reading, look into Linus Pauling and his Vit C quest. It’s all bunkum, like most supplements.
Beezlebubble
Excess vitamin a is bad for your bones in women and vitamin e or f is bad for the prostate in men IIRC.
lovexconspiracy
Excess vitamin c just goes through your system. Or so that's my understanding.
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
It's like gas, running low on it will make Your car screw up but a full tank doesn't drive faster than a half one.
Iseeyourpointandraiseyou
but does a full tank give you better mpg? it sure seems that last 1/4 tank goes much faster than the first one.
exlurker42
The standard float arm sensors move through an arc rather than strictly vertically, that's why they get weird at either end.
Iseeyourpointandraiseyou
finally! a real answer! +1 for you good sir/madam
nonamejanie
Your body will dump excess that you don’t need. Especially supplements that aren’t delivered by food.
lilmookie
I thought your body expunges the excess. Like, in that sense there's probably clinical evidence that excess does nothing positive.
exlurker42
It does
lilmookie
But did they test if someone with excess vitamin C expels it on the test victim, if they receive benefits? I'm accepting grant money.
lilmookie
*patient. I meant "patient". I prefer cash grants over checks, but like, whichever works. "lilmookie-foundation-of-sciences-and-stuff".
kojenk
Meanwhile Measles causes Immunity Amnesia. so much for building a natural resistance! Now all diseases fuck you up bad.
kojenk
https://www.princeton.edu/news/2015/05/07/deadly-shadow-measles-may-weaken-immune-system-three-years
Jupman
Tell that scabies
malachilenomade
During Basic, the only 'candy' we could have was Vit C, though the drills warned against taking too much (apparently it can make you ill)
notacobra
Moreover, excess vitamin c is excreted by the kidneys in minutes to hours.
Odmanra
I tried a 2 Kmg tablets a day, day two constantly on toilet draining bowels! Take what is required!! Do not exceed dosage.
Openmind4truth
Not to be that guy, but high dose vitamin c is actually part of treatment for measles. But to your credit prevention is better than treatmen
exlurker42
There are some things it can help shorten. There's no evidence it can do diddly for prevention. I should've been more specific, though
NedStarksHeadOnASpike
This is way too sciencey for any anti vaxxer to understand.
batukhan
Besides they can refute it with "15 minutes of googling, try it, think for yourself".. ugh
NedStarksHeadOnASpike
Just like flat earthers.
RelartOfGivia
An excess gives you the runs
BigJewishHulk
Well, i got ibsd. I always have the runs
Opportunist
That depends on the binder. Not every Vit C pill is made the same, and some folks are sensitive to certain 'builds'.
Leonon
I hear running is good for your health.
ImJustFuckingHere
Don’t we get enough vitamins just from the food we eat?
exlurker42
Depends on what you eat and which vitamins, but with C yeah it's really hard to come up short.
Lostchild12
Fast foods? Full of sugars, fats, carbohydrates? Chips, Cheese curls? The list is long of low vitamin foods we eat.
exlurker42
Good food is also full of sugar, fat and carbohydrates (also sugar is a carb so slightly redundant). That's necessary fuel.
Lostchild12
1/2 Sugar is a simple carb. It is what complex carbs turn into. Your system was not designed to handle massive amounts of refined sugar.
Lostchild12
2/2 Healthy food has a balance of fats and carbs along with vitamins & fiber. It's not the fats, etc. but the excessive amounts in those.
furiouslumberjack
It has, however had clinical success in treating sepsis but only in enormous IV amounts and not for the same reasons AVs love it.
Tellyb0228
That's still pretty small scale, though right? Have they started implementing it in more hospitals to check the efficacy?
furiouslumberjack
Yep. It has been picked up by several large hospitals, at least out here in CA. Many docs are opting into it because the likelihood for harm
furiouslumberjack
Is very low except in very few cases of folks with severe renal impairment
Tellyb0228
Ahh, very cool!
furiouslumberjack
In retrospective studies the efficacy has been remarkable at this point it's almost unethical to not try it
PastaMeCrazy
Anything above 500mg/4hours is worthless. VitC has been shown to reduce the duration of illness but not lessen the severity. from ncib
ChrisGibbons
It can help cure pregnancy.
JustTryingToHelpDude
That is true for oral intake, however intravenous dosages can be much higher and are promising rn. Seems to be a possible cancer treatment.
OhioFetish
nice downvotes, this is not just some hocus pocus tho
imcurrentlyatabar
Eh.. probably not. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/expert-answers/alternative-cancer-treatment/faq-20057968
GlassPHLEGM
Curious about the down votes but too lazy to Google.
cyanide4u
What, do you have a degree in bullshit?
JustTryingToHelpDude
Just some insight in current research. High dosage of VitC seems to make radiation more effective and lessen the side effects.
JustTryingToHelpDude
High dose IV VitC kinda becomes standard as a supporting factor for cancer treatment in germany rn. Really seems to help.
errorexe3
Also overdose for vitc is terrible.
Draidan
HolyCowDoNotEat
Lol what? Vitamin C is water soluble, you pee out the excess. To overdose on vitamin C you’d have to put in a ridiculous amount of effort.
Vantie
Impossible to OD on vitamins. You’ll be full, puke or Will piss it out. But you Can get too much vitamin, which will be harmful for you 1/2
Vantie
Altough it won’t kill you, it can disrupt some stuff. Just eat your meals diversed! Supplements won’t help really, but won’t hurt either 2/3
Vantie
You get your needed vitamins through food. If you’re in doubt, get some blood done/ask your doc. 3/3 Source: biochemistry engineer student
LightlyFriedFishFilletsForDinner
Dunno about c but vitamin d overdose is not something you want
LightlyFriedFishFilletsForDinner
(although hard to do by accident)
lolface
I'll have to ask your mom about that one.
chesirecats
Source? I'm almost completely certain this is rubbish.
Draidan
It is, if you weight about 60 kg you'd need to consume about a kg to overdose
ixgs
Hold my beer.
nseanconlon
Overdose just means you've taken more than is nutritionally or medically needed. Fatal dose is huge. We're talking dozens of pounds.
Bend3
about 1 lb for every 75 lb you weigh. so not dozens, but still a huge amount to get to that point.
sha13
That sounds wrong. Vitamin C is water soluble, and thus you will not hold any excess and instead pass it in urine. Source?
theglimmeringwarlock
False. There is a certain bowel tolerance to how many grams of c. You will shit it out. Myth is pissing it out. I take 8g per day btw
sha13
Doesn't look serious in any way: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vitamins-and-minerals/vitamin-c/
enferno8
Isn't that basically impossible? Rat LD50 is like 12g/kg and 3-4g/kg for mice.
crustaceansaremyhomeboys
Yeah, C is water soluble so an "overdose" is pretty much just going to turn your pee yellow. Not like fat soluble vitamins.
Junktrunkjunkie
1 Bear liver is a lethal dose of Vitamin A for example
cancerriddenlung
I mean...it gives you diarrhea but so does caffeine.
BraxtonFullerton
Exactly this. You're probably more at risk of dehydration, bc your body is trying to piss all the excess out, than overdose.
Pandragun
If it wasn't for innocent people who can't be vaccinated, i'd say good, these anti-vaxx retards need to die off.
holdonimeatingpizza
You’re kind of an asshole for wishing death on people.
drapester
Not vaccinating is like a statistical roulette on someone else's life who can't vaccinate, so turn about is fair play.
holdonimeatingpizza
People shouldn’t be shunned or worst yet, wished death upon for their religious and personal beliefs. Bottom line.
drapester
Depends on the belief.
holdonimeatingpizza
Sure. And this isn’t one of them
mastikator
But it's their kids who die
DoYouGuysNotHavePhones
Make a law so they cannot legally have children.
PeccableTiming
problem is that conspiracy theories are not hereditary.
nseanconlon
People who can't be vaccinated aren't necessarily anti-vax.
Corona688
Antivaxxers are vaccinated. Its their kids which aren't.
iamthisguy247
But they won’t anyways. They may be anti-vaxx, but they were all vaccinated as kids. It’s their kids who will suffer.
DataMonkeyNicki
TGWeaver
Exactly this. The only people anti-vaxxers hurt is their own innocent children. If any damage was self-inflicted we'd all likely care less.
Muffdiver9
This is the reality so many people miss entirely. The kids are the ones who will die, not their idiot parents.
DickPicEnthusiast
Yes. Ironically, vaccines do cause a mental illness: anti-vaxx moms.
OfficerGoodbodysss
Agreed although dont hate on Vitamin C. Shit's good to take, especially if you exercise a lot and get sick from colds a lot.
GuyPrice
Shit's vital. Which is why meme works cuz you wouldn't try to fight measles with other vital stuff like water or oxygen either.
verbatimshanks
Just don't take too much vitamin C on a regular basis
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OfficerGoodbodysss
Yeah that 2000% your daily value.
readgardentravelcook
Science doesn’t seem to support this position. Study after study.
OfficerGoodbodysss
Study after study shows that athletes very much benefit from it so maybe you should know a little more about what you speak of.
imcurrentlyatabar
[citation needed]
readgardentravelcook
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2695554
readgardentravelcook
Nope. I stand by science. Check out National Inst of Health, National Health Library. 40 yrs of research shows you are incorrect.
imcurrentlyatabar
The citation provided as evidence for vitamin c supplementation improving athletic performance said exactly the opposite.
StRocketScience
I feel bad for anti-vax, honestly. People wanting wants best for their kids tricked by scam companies selling “holistic cures”
holdonimeatingpizza
Also, it really isn’t scammers who are turning these people. It’s the information. People who are against vaccines five DEEP into the 1/3
holdonimeatingpizza
Yeah ..not to mention the billions that are profited off of scheduled vaccines.
StRocketScience
I have no doubt big pharma is an asshole. Doesn’t mean vaccines are shit
holdonimeatingpizza
Asshole indeed, which begs the question...
ClemFundango
I feel bad for stupid people too. Wait, no I don't. All the info is out there. If they're too fucking lazy to do research then fuck them.
StRocketScience
I want to damn you as a cynical asshole, but you’re so right https://media.giphy.com/media/F1EqNgksWjSaQ/giphy.gif
ClemFundango
I'm right, but I'm still a cynical asshole.
holdonimeatingpizza
Ingredients in thm &the inserts even provide us w. all of the dozens of potentially serious life shaking risks that may result from them 2/2
StRocketScience
I’m thinking the laymen anti-vaxxers aren’t dogging as deep or as responsibly as doctors prescribing the vaccines. Also medication does 1/2
holdonimeatingpizza
Doctors are told they’re safe and effective. They’re just a piece on the chess board, they only do as they’re told from people they 1/2
holdonimeatingpizza
assume do all research & test studies.Also,big pharma companies are protected by OUR govt against vaccine injury lawsuits.Let that marinate
StRocketScience
have side-effects, but the side-effects are better than death from a weird strain of mumps. 2/2
holdonimeatingpizza
Our bodies can fight infections and disease especially with the medical treatment that has come so far. But we cant reverse potential 1/2
holdonimeatingpizza
Neurological damage, and many more. Some parents don’t want to play roulette with those permanent side effects.
holdonimeatingpizza
I’m not a parent but it certainly concerns me. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/side-effects.htm#jeixiaro