to be fair and I understand this is a different scooter based transit system. That is also drover error on their part. It's not a one way system of the trucks to solely look out, its on the bike motorist as well to be cognizant and that is objectively a terrible place to stop.
The truck doesn't have enough mirrors if it has "blind spots". Simple as that. The trucker is endangering people, so please respect cause and effect and don't blame victims.
Those things are a giant moving blind spot. Give us our damned space. Also understand that we may lose our job if we hit you, but we're in 10-12 tons of metal and freight. We are going to win and you are going home in ziplocs, once the paramedics find a squeegee.
+1. I keep a good distance behind trucks and make sure I can see their side mirrors, therefore they can see me too. Plus it rains here often, if I keep my distance I avoid having most of the muck from the road splattered on my windscreen.
The man speaking. I think he's speaking Iban. Is this in Malaysia? I saw people loaded up on motorbikes like this a lot while I was there. A family of 5 once. Only the smallest child had a helmet. Traffic in some areas was scary too. Sandakan in particular the unlicensed 'buses' *usually vans* where the worst of it.
Yea Lorry driver in the UK here... I hate people who cross in this area, Yes I have a blind spot mirror but it's not a sure thing and its not really easy to see a person in it.
My brother is a truck driver and the stories he can tell... The lack of situational awareness in a lot of people is absolutely horrifying and the fact they've managed to survive is nothing short of a small miracle.
We have a small car, so my mum always gives a little beep beep when we have to pass lorries to tell them we're there because we have had it in the past where we've been overtaking and the lorry has just started merging into the lane since they can't see us.
I am actually going to take an unpopular stance on this. If the visibility is this bad from inside the cab, then the cab is not designed good enough. We can do better than this, I know we can.
Taking the stance that everyone else should be mindful of this is not sustainable. The fact that people are shocked when finding out highlights how unintuitive it is and how unlikely they are to come to this understanding by themselves.
Having been around trucks when I was young: You get a long nose Pete and you can park a civic in front of the truck and you'll never see it. The truck in this video is a cabover with far, far better view and they still can't see the scooters. If you can't see the driver's head, he cannot see you. Proceed as if you are invisible and don't want to die.
The only reason there's a blind spot is because the driver didn't adjust his pot lids right. We have to adjust all 7 mirrors on an LLV to avoid this so there's only about a 2 foot high spot there you can't see.
Now do America and how you can barely see a full size car out the side of a jacked-up, gender-affirming, tiny dick pickup truck that never carries or tows anything.
The bottom one in particular literally shows absolutely nothing that isn't covered by the other two. Should be tilted down a bit so it covers the very blind spot this video is about.
Nope. Sorry, but the reason for road rages is exclusively the asshole who can't control their temper. Period. The biker is a dumbass, but the asshole engaging in road rage is 100% responsible for their own choices and behavior.
Which is why I as a cyclist always make eye contact with motorists around me when I approach traffic light. That way I know that everyone is aware of my presence. Ok of course I also avoid big vehicle blind spots at all costs, clearly communicate my intentions, and overall behave in a predictable way.
It’s important to note that a big part of this phrase is talking about the mirrors. That’s why big trucks and busses have so many. If you can’t see the driver through any reflection, they can’t see you. It’s your job first, to make yourself visible, then the duty of the truck driver to check all views
I just drove back to VA from CT the other day, and was trying to stay conscious of this - staying far enough back from trucks to keep at least one mirror in view. Of course other drivers just saw "oh, gap!" And jumped in front to tailgate the truck...
i worked in a lot of company vehicles doing construction, its funny how the outside looks fine, great paint job, but the inside looks like somebody has been surving the zombie apocolypse like a feral animal for years.
In early 2020, before all the lockdowns, I rented a 2019 box truck that was very dirty inside. I'm not the cleanest person myself, but the 2005 car I had at the time was almost pristine in comparison.
All large vehicles should include blind spot sensors/cameras -- especially large pickups since they are all over the place and have terrible blind spots to the front, saw one almost run over a 6 year old child in a parking lot before mom yanked her away. I'm certain the truck literally couldn't see her 20 feet in front of him.
We have them in the UK and they are required by law, but there is only so much I can look at and listen to at once. People need to be aware that these vehicles have these blind spots and should equally take what steps they can to respect them.
This solution, while still helpful, only works where technologies like this are affordable and maintainable, but more importantly, is a case of a more complex solution papering over all symptom instead of the root cause - bad design and/or infrastructure.
In the US, the cultural norm is bigger and bigger trucks and SUVs with zero visibility, making our reliance on infrastructure that is inherently unfriendly to pedestrians even more reinforced. Sensors help, but the real problem is systemic.
It's hard to find a country that has the proliferation of huge pickups like the USA, but a mid-size truck (5000 kg gvw, less than a Ford F250 pickup) in India costs around $10,000 - $15,000, blind spot monitoring adds around $200 to the price of a car, so that's 2% of the price of a new truck
Next you are going to suggest ADAS for TukTuks and Scooters in places where closed toe shoes are a luxury and Caste systems still treat the untouchables worse than livestock.
Young Drivers of Canada does, but in the context of making sure it's safe to change lanes. I don't remember if they taught how to recognize and avoid the blind spots of other vehicles. I have that knowledge but can't remember where I learned it.
maybe in whatever shithole country you live in...here they absolutely are taught over and over about blind spots for their own safety...they ignore it after getting their license because they are morons, but they were taught and should know...
I think every learner driver should have to spend a day sitting in the passenger seat of a truck and at least a week cycling on the streets before they can get a licence. It would make drivers much more aware and empathetic.
Really? It was the first thing my driving instructor did before even putting on the engine, he walked around the car and I had to track him trough the mirrors. He stopped in all the spots where he knew I couldn't see him to drive the point home.
Here’s a fucking plan: what if they DIDN’T HAVE BLIND SPOTS. We’re making computers make pictures of bears in spacesuits but we can’t put a camera covering the blind spots? More windows? Can we spare a second of thought to eliminate it instead of blaming the users of the road? Idiotic.
Just to point out though - the bike is in front of the truck so the truck had to pull into that position. Hopefully the driver knew they were there when he pulled in. And, I would hope, most people understand the dangers of cutting off a heavy truck at speeds even if they aren't in the blind spot! Braking distances on larger vehicles are much longer!
They could have pulled up after the truck had stopped and just drove into that blindspot knowing that they’d take off before the truck did. Also it looks like they’re to the side of the truck, not directly in its path. Still good to see posted so people are reminded about blindspots though
I think their mindset is more solution oriented than blame. Of course it's the bikers fault in this situation. They're just thinking of a solution that doesn't depend on having faith in there general public.
i drive a 5 ton in canada, even the best mirrors cant fix blind spots.. like directly behind my truck where a car will entirely vanish from even a 6 foot follow distance
Lardidar
He could dangle a mirror ball out there to cover more angles - safe and fun! ;-D
viva93
to be fair and I understand this is a different scooter based transit system. That is also drover error on their part. It's not a one way system of the trucks to solely look out, its on the bike motorist as well to be cognizant and that is objectively a terrible place to stop.
stronomer
The truck doesn't have enough mirrors if it has "blind spots". Simple as that. The trucker is endangering people, so please respect cause and effect and don't blame victims.
DeathLemons
Seems like a optimal situation for a super soaker
keelindsey
Those things are a giant moving blind spot. Give us our damned space. Also understand that we may lose our job if we hit you, but we're in 10-12 tons of metal and freight. We are going to win and you are going home in ziplocs, once the paramedics find a squeegee.
ADDGirl
If you can touch the truck, you're too close!!
MelonTrolley
That biker is an IDiOt.
Knightendae
My rule of thumb if I can't see the driver he can't see me
southoffrance
+1. I keep a good distance behind trucks and make sure I can see their side mirrors, therefore they can see me too. Plus it rains here often, if I keep my distance I avoid having most of the muck from the road splattered on my windscreen.
Junktrunkjunkie
The man speaking. I think he's speaking Iban. Is this in Malaysia? I saw people loaded up on motorbikes like this a lot while I was there. A family of 5 once. Only the smallest child had a helmet. Traffic in some areas was scary too. Sandakan in particular the unlicensed 'buses' *usually vans* where the worst of it.
erinaceus
i learned to ride a motorcycle in KL fifty years ago. it was pretty rough then too.
innagaddavidababy
People shouldn’t be driving around in vehicles that can’t see the other vehicles around them. Your blind spot is your problem to fix.
BigRobbo
Yea Lorry driver in the UK here... I hate people who cross in this area, Yes I have a blind spot mirror but it's not a sure thing and its not really easy to see a person in it.
killernerd
My brother is a truck driver and the stories he can tell... The lack of situational awareness in a lot of people is absolutely horrifying and the fact they've managed to survive is nothing short of a small miracle.
donutposse11337
Whoa. You had me at “I hate people”
Commander5AM
We have a small car, so my mum always gives a little beep beep when we have to pass lorries to tell them we're there because we have had it in the past where we've been overtaking and the lorry has just started merging into the lane since they can't see us.
Dasnekones
I am actually going to take an unpopular stance on this. If the visibility is this bad from inside the cab, then the cab is not designed good enough. We can do better than this, I know we can.
Taking the stance that everyone else should be mindful of this is not sustainable. The fact that people are shocked when finding out highlights how unintuitive it is and how unlikely they are to come to this understanding by themselves.
TheBlueMuppet
Having been around trucks when I was young: You get a long nose Pete and you can park a civic in front of the truck and you'll never see it. The truck in this video is a cabover with far, far better view and they still can't see the scooters. If you can't see the driver's head, he cannot see you. Proceed as if you are invisible and don't want to die.
mikeatike
They are in front of the truck, were trying there first? Tho I suppose there bikes filter around trucks safely all the time.
MrsHowVeryDareYou
Is that a little kid in a pink helmet with him????
Volpe42
The only reason there's a blind spot is because the driver didn't adjust his pot lids right. We have to adjust all 7 mirrors on an LLV to avoid this so there's only about a 2 foot high spot there you can't see.
slyvic
Is this why some buses have those mirrors shaped like Piccolos antenna?
kathlTvVillain
Imo, The biker is way too close !
frostybox
Now do America and how you can barely see a full size car out the side of a jacked-up, gender-affirming, tiny dick pickup truck that never carries or tows anything.
FiftyShadesOfArugula
And where Tesla keeps finding ways to add more blind spots.
CheeseborgarSoop
This is actually the bikers fault. They aren't following the traffic laws because they're on small mopeds.
thepandasbum
His mirrors are not aimed correctly. Specifically the 2 round/convex ones.
mrlemonofbanana
The bottom one in particular literally shows absolutely nothing that isn't covered by the other two. Should be tilted down a bit so it covers the very blind spot this video is about.
tic32003
Nope. Sorry, but the reason for road rages is exclusively the asshole who can't control their temper. Period. The biker is a dumbass, but the asshole engaging in road rage is 100% responsible for their own choices and behavior.
yoHoeYoHoe
If you can't see the driver, they can't see you.
pomax
Note: only applies during the day. If it's night time and you can see the driver: they still can't see you.
knupauger
Which is why I as a cyclist always make eye contact with motorists around me when I approach traffic light. That way I know that everyone is aware of my presence. Ok of course I also avoid big vehicle blind spots at all costs, clearly communicate my intentions, and overall behave in a predictable way.
SnowpersonHitInTheFaceWithALackOfCreativity
The driver obviously knew he was there though
MeshHatMafia
It’s important to note that a big part of this phrase is talking about the mirrors. That’s why big trucks and busses have so many. If you can’t see the driver through any reflection, they can’t see you.
It’s your job first, to make yourself visible, then the duty of the truck driver to check all views
Grimmrog
it's only your job to check that if you wanna make it out alive.
freakdiablo
I just drove back to VA from CT the other day, and was trying to stay conscious of this - staying far enough back from trucks to keep at least one mirror in view. Of course other drivers just saw "oh, gap!" And jumped in front to tailgate the truck...
CyanideBreathMint
Yep. Dumb asses gotsta dumbass:/
BeaverOnFire
Just because I'm blind doesn't mean the driver can't see!
AtlantisTheLostEmpire
I can smell the dust in that truck.
PobbitBreakers
i worked in a lot of company vehicles doing construction, its funny how the outside looks fine, great paint job, but the inside looks like somebody has been surving the zombie apocolypse like a feral animal for years.
CallThisAUsername
"Like"
someguy7734206
In early 2020, before all the lockdowns, I rented a 2019 box truck that was very dirty inside. I'm not the cleanest person myself, but the 2005 car I had at the time was almost pristine in comparison.
sfbiker
All large vehicles should include blind spot sensors/cameras -- especially large pickups since they are all over the place and have terrible blind spots to the front, saw one almost run over a 6 year old child in a parking lot before mom yanked her away. I'm certain the truck literally couldn't see her 20 feet in front of him.
BigRobbo
We have them in the UK and they are required by law, but there is only so much I can look at and listen to at once. People need to be aware that these vehicles have these blind spots and should equally take what steps they can to respect them.
zupkuck
This solution, while still helpful, only works where technologies like this are affordable and maintainable, but more importantly, is a case of a more complex solution papering over all symptom instead of the root cause - bad design and/or infrastructure.
In the US, the cultural norm is bigger and bigger trucks and SUVs with zero visibility, making our reliance on infrastructure that is inherently unfriendly to pedestrians even more reinforced. Sensors help, but the real problem is systemic.
zupkuck
"A symptom" not "all symptom"
ufoara
Keep dreaming that the World at large can afford the price spike when ADAS is required.
sfbiker
A mid range pickup costs over $60K these days, I think they can afford to add a couple hundred dollars of blind spot sensors/cameras.
ufoara
delusional to think the world can afford that level of bubblewrap.
sfbiker
It's hard to find a country that has the proliferation of huge pickups like the USA, but a mid-size truck (5000 kg gvw, less than a Ford F250 pickup) in India costs around $10,000 - $15,000, blind spot monitoring adds around $200 to the price of a car, so that's 2% of the price of a new truck
ufoara
Next you are going to suggest ADAS for TukTuks and Scooters in places where closed toe shoes are a luxury and Caste systems still treat the untouchables worse than livestock.
Sodaguru
Unfortunately hardly any driving school teaches the drivers (two wheelers, small cars) about blindspots.
barbarian818
Young Drivers of Canada does, but in the context of making sure it's safe to change lanes. I don't remember if they taught how to recognize and avoid the blind spots of other vehicles. I have that knowledge but can't remember where I learned it.
RecurringNightmare
maybe in whatever shithole country you live in...here they absolutely are taught over and over about blind spots for their own safety...they ignore it after getting their license because they are morons, but they were taught and should know...
Banana369
I think every learner driver should have to spend a day sitting in the passenger seat of a truck and at least a week cycling on the streets before they can get a licence. It would make drivers much more aware and empathetic.
sakasiru
Really? It was the first thing my driving instructor did before even putting on the engine, he walked around the car and I had to track him trough the mirrors. He stopped in all the spots where he knew I couldn't see him to drive the point home.
cubicleinmate
Do they require 2-wheel driving school in Asian countries?
Relusion
In MI they did when I did driving school 22 years ago
BillHubbard
Many countries don't even mandate a license for small mopeds.
Joeybigtimes
Here’s a fucking plan: what if they DIDN’T HAVE BLIND SPOTS. We’re making computers make pictures of bears in spacesuits but we can’t put a camera covering the blind spots? More windows? Can we spare a second of thought to eliminate it instead of blaming the users of the road? Idiotic.
alt86er
More to the point, apparently they are not trained about how to position their mirrors properly.
Volpe42
What?
ShamshielDF
Just to point out though - the bike is in front of the truck so the truck had to pull into that position. Hopefully the driver knew they were there when he pulled in. And, I would hope, most people understand the dangers of cutting off a heavy truck at speeds even if they aren't in the blind spot! Braking distances on larger vehicles are much longer!
iridescentrae
That’s not how people on motorcycles work
They could have pulled up after the truck had stopped and just drove into that blindspot knowing that they’d take off before the truck did. Also it looks like they’re to the side of the truck, not directly in its path. Still good to see posted so people are reminded about blindspots though
IfIOnlyHadAName
That motorist could've easily split the lane and stopped there to be behind the rest of the other scooters.
FartsSmellBad
A lot of people use scooters specifically because they requires very little certification or other requirements
STAR266
They do in Denmark and in Poland. Its obligatory. Got licenses from both places.
israelarenazis
They do in America too, or at least in Virginia where I got mine. No idea what that poster is on about
Mithi
For the crowd that even in 2025 don't know about PROPER mirror setup: adjustment tarps
Mithi
and the mirrors show
InevitableBadger
It took me a minute or so of trying to read them before realising they weren't in English
mrlemonofbanana
Quick translation: Orange = "front mirror full", yellow = "starting mirror centered", blue = "lower edge wide angle mirror", green = "lower edge main mirror"
YippeeKayakOB
Bigger/more specific mandatory mirrors works, but my guess is poor countries have not implemented thisaa
BigRobbo
We have them in the UK, they are required by law but you can't always see peds clearly in them because of the very wide angle they use.
AtomicChipmunk
Jar jar?
YippeeKayakOB
Either that or I'm in bed with high fever
AtomicChipmunk
Get well soon? Maybe you like fevers... I don't know.
LinguisticBitch
Why are putting the blame on the truck when its the biker?
whatsisname
Because the truck is considerably larger and more dangerous, so its operator should have more responsibility.
VaultGirl69
I think their mindset is more solution oriented than blame. Of course it's the bikers fault in this situation. They're just thinking of a solution that doesn't depend on having faith in there general public.
Hexidimentional
i drive a 5 ton in canada, even the best mirrors cant fix blind spots.. like directly behind my truck where a car will entirely vanish from even a 6 foot follow distance
YippeeKayakOB
If you are a truck driver I assume you know that a camera takes away this blind spot.
Hexidimentional
i'm not installing cameras on rentals dude. I'm a driver, not an owner.
thepandasbum
All new cars since 2014 in Canada have mandatory back up cameras. Wouldn't be hard to pass the same law for trucks.