Jan 6, 2017 1:09 PM
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AstronomyDropOut
Hahahaha this is amazing. Apologies if this is old. First time i've seen this. No i dont' mean back to the future -_-
gamesthatiplay
Doom 4 plays at max settings even for my $650 Dell PC bought 2 years ago now. I think its just Doom 4.
Numus
IDK run doom on a gtx1070 with vulkan and full nightmare but barely getting above 100 fps on 1080p...
nothisistim
Just joined the master race myself, waiting on my 1070 in the mail
MinionKevin67
Can finally say I joined that crew. Spent 700$ pre tax on a Nvidia gtx 1080 so I can play games in 4k
tehchicken1
I just built my pc and got doom so I feel you
ItsDangerousToGoAlone
Uses a console controller to play an FPS on pc. ...really?
stormtrooper412
when you waste 2k of daddy's money to play Minecraft
consolepeasent
I'm relevant!
FuckMyAssAndCallMeObama
NO
CheesyPoofsWithSomeFavaBeansAndANiceChianti
Is Doom really that good? I mean, it just seems like another FPS. Why is it so special?
PiGiSpi
My favorite description is its the video game equivalent of when the butter is soft and the knife glides through it
muffinman1177
PCs are where it's at.
kmikl
TBH, the original Doom probably plays on the guitar.
bakedaf
160 fps on Linux. How 'bout that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWZvwhwT1Sk
Rcm11
soulman901
PC Master Race Card Carrying Member since 1984
100PercentLatex
Repost.
nitemayr
Video running Ironically at 24fps?
HawasKaPujari
Doom is legit fucking mind blowing.
proracing53
If you really joined the PC master race then you would be using a keyboard & mouse instead of a controller.
Infamouse
Always upvote back to the future
Klingon00
Using a controller to play doom *shudders*
thisisawaste
Oh, stop being melodramatic. At least he's not using motion controls.
megabassist
I just watched a video of someone playing it on console, and it seems way too slow for the gameplay. No thanks.
Shoelebubba
Must be something wrong with me. GTX 1070, i7 6700k, 120hz monitor, etc and can't really see a lot of difference with my old setup.
frickfracksnicketysnack
Newer hardware isn't always drastically better, how much research did you do on parts for your new setup?
AnusSlicer69
How much RAM did you put in and are you booting from or using SSD?
32g and yeah the OS is on a new SDD. So was my old one tho.
domsson
Well, the difference is that you can now play some titles you couldn't play before. And you should have more fps. Unless...
...unless your old rig was just as good as your new one. Which is not what anyone would assume.
Snooj
But why is he holding a console controller still?
BigAZNMan
Because the xbox one controller works with pc.
Hungrypiemonger
hes playing shitty doom and you're complaining about his controller? honestly some people.
shitty doom? is it, really?
I'm just trying to make sense of the gif being PC based but him holding a console controller. I don't follow this war too closely.
because its 2017 and controllers work with a pc now? this is old news
Now? I used to play Carmageddon on a PC with one almost 20 years ago. But part of the PC benefit is using a mouse on an FPS.
Yavin1v
pc benefit is being able to use whatever peripheral you want
missmalice
I switch back and forth between keyboard and controller on PC. Using controllers are easier on my wrists for binge gaming.
TheGreatDeerKing
Guuuys I'm buying a laptop soon and I know jack shit about hardware I need some guidance
what dod you need a computer for ? do you really need it to be portable, laptops tend to be more expensive for the same power than a pc
I move allot and my old laptop busted so I need a new one, but Imma be honest it's for gaming
i hope this can help https://www.reddit.com/r/laptopgaming/ , i dont know enough about laptops myself to give you a good recommendation
thegardenhoe
Buy a pc. I made mistake of buying laptop instead of pc. works half as good with the same specs and gets 20000x as hot.
MisterSausage
Also more expensive. Don't by a laptop unless you REALLY don't have the space for a PC. There really aren't any other advantages.
This. As long as you don't really need portability, go with desktop computer. Better hardware for same price, easier to fix/mod/enhance, ...
... easier to cool, therefore better longevity; better connectivity; doesn't really take up more space (footprint wise) than laptop either
Kevm4n
Just ordered a 4K monitor and a gtx 1080..... biggest upgrade in 4 years.... I can't wait for the mailman
Filolial
The price of those 2 items are double the price of my PC, monitors and equiment. One day want a GTX 1070 maybe... or RX 480...
foxfloof
Rx480 will Rek the 1070 in a year I'm calling it.
I got a good deal on Amazon for the monitor $400. And the card was 550. I've just been tired of fiddling with my settings. Time for ultra!
Yeah, the Dutch amazon is limited to mostly books. The german one has the 1080 for 870 euro or something...
That's a disgusting price. Sorry man
DougForcett
v
NerdN1
But you could always just make 10 higher.... If you give me a million dollars, I can make it go up to 12.
milest0nes
One of my favorite rockumentaries
HeDiedInABizarreGardeningAccident
*relevant username intensifies*
TimLippe
Why don't you just make 10 louder?
Jusmar
... ... ... These go to eleven
biggreencow
https://xkcd.com/670/
InfernoTerra
-Sings-I like the volume one louder than ten!
SparklDriver
GuitarGuy0625
Yeah? Well my amp goes to 12. HA!
thejustfinegatsby
Fun fact: spinal tap is the only movie on IMDb rated out of 11
Plan2001
I would give it about 5/7
Grevling89
Checks out. http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0088258/
Semx11
Why?
TigerswilldoANYTHINGforatunafishsandwich
It's one larger.
cfoxtrot78
TIL there was a CRM 114 in Back to the Future... just like the CRM 114 year in Dr. Strangelove.
H3rrTr1gg3r
Thank you! I see this every time with friends and no one gets it... I need new friends.
bachterman
thx 1138
madetheaccountjustforyou
Quite a few appearances: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRM_114_(fictional_device)
bax498
I immediately starting humming "the animals went in two by two" dr strange love, amazing film.
WillTheFifth
Major Kong, we got a message in over the CRM-114! Decoded it reads as Wing Attack: Plan R. R for Roberts!
How many times have I told you guys that I don't want no horsin' around on the airplane??
We're not horsing around sir! That's how it decodes! Wing Attack: Plan R, R for rosengold!
delpharseven
But you are still using a peasant controller. Keyboard and mouse for FPSes.
Zerosity
And if you must it a controller for some reason make it a steam controller!
PeePeeFrictionPleasure
Until you try playing games like Super Meat Boy with keyboard - you're gonna have a baaaaaaad time
Not always. Sometimes controllers feel better.
Corntana
You mean Racing wheels for FPSes
Shelest
Gabe himself, blessed be his name, bestowed upon us a controller. All input devices are beautiful in His eyes.
chettlar
Steam just got updated to support like just about any controller. Still in beta tho.
AltEff4
Meh, I choose depending on the game. Doom is definitely a controller game for me.
Sokonomi
PC gamers can choose to use whichever peasant controller they please. Like drinking from the skull of your slain enemies.
I'm relevant
drummerman109
lol its a simple reason why its a controller instead of a mouse or keyboard, the original is a guitar pick, a controller makes more sense
LemonadeSaucer
I just don't have the space to use a mouse. Still a diamond overwatch player. Season high is 3400. It's whatever you're used to that's best.
KimJungPun
Yeah man I'm plat in LoL using a controller it's pretty sweet
Elroydb
Steam Controller motherfucka. Do you speak it?
TheGame21x
Sheeeit. Unless I'm playing an FPS for the multiplayer, I'm using a controller. Just feels better to me.
DiedAndHauntingImgur
Doom doesn't really need the precision that other FPSes require, it does need the movement though - which I find better from a controller
nipplepanties
I can only play shooters with a controller.
rowdybme
then you suck at shooters
CamelSpotter
I actually do better with a controller than I do a mouse and keyboard. Use whatever feels comfortable and fuck what anyone else says.
NNextremNN
Than you can't play shooter at all ...
The hell games have you been playing
Shooter without aimbots
The fact that you can't imagine someone playing well with a shooter on controller without aimbots is astounding. Ever seen a halo tourny?
MagnetVox
The glory of the PC however is using whatever you want.
[deleted]
Not for most games unless you pay a ton of money so who cares
BlackCollar
Yeah let's just conveniently forget how console users experienced a mild panic when cross-platform FPS multiplayer was introduced. Peasants.
thepasswordisbutts
You gotta admit the best way play games is with a microwave
Or that fucking goldfish
drderpymd
I use controller for everything it supports except multiplayer shooters. Couch gaming FTW
DickInAToaster
No. You people dont understand that it's called the PC master race not just for graphics, but also for the keyboard/mouse dominance.
Katalliaan
For shooters, maybe. But if I'm playing an arcadey driving game, I'm going to be using a controller because keyboards don't do analog input
BlueLanternBraxx
I game PC and some games I use the mouse/keyboard and others I use the controller. If it's a game designed for console I use the controller.
Mack1986
My rule. Simulator joystick. Shooter or strategy. Mouse. Third person controller
LokiKingOfJotunheim
MGSV:The Phantom Pain is unplayable with mouse and keyboard on PC sadly... Thankfully I have an extra XB1 controller.
skooterLaughin
There's games designed for controllers?
Beat em Ups, Jump and Runs and many crappy designed console ports.
Kickingbabykittens
Dark souls is a good one for that. Keyboard controls feel clunky.
gorgosaurusrex
*There are
Beat em Ups and Jump & Runs ... and bad console ports where they fucked up the interface and controls.
TallDude
Anything arcade-style is better with a controller, or local multiplayer. Nidhog, Tower Fall, etc.
lickwidghost
Anything that doesn't need precision or indicate UI is often better with a controller. Generally platform, racing, actionRPG, fighting
More console-ish games. And thats just my opinion. But like, EVE or Starcraft, keyboard, Fallout/GTA controller..
BillyMaysHereWithOxiClean
Unmodded Fallout, maybe
Yeah I'm not saying never use a controller (as you say, for some games it is better), but Doom is definitely a keyboard+mouse FPS. I'm 1/
just annoyed by the incongruity, even though the controller is the only thing that would work in this animation. 2/2
A controller is comfortable. And if playing on the TV definitely your best option. Mouse and Keyboard is only really necessary if you're-->
--> doing multiplayer. Otherwise who cares.
aceclown
When you drop $2k on a gaming rig and forget about a decent PSU
SaintEmilio
I legit burnt through mine 3 days ago. Spent a lot more money on the replacement.
HpBoost
I voted up, but that's sad :(
skwotingdog
And the brown out on the motherboard wrecks it all
AlexJove
indeed i just had my 850 Watt gold shit out on me, didn't take any pc components with it totaly worth the extra 100-150$ over cheaper ones
Rusticshine
WTF!? I will let you know i am only using the highest quality PSU that BESTEK ever put in my e-machines!! it runs my GTX 1080 just fine!
KevinBhall
i've had bad luck with supposed brand name PSU's! had about 3 failed corsairs !
SuperTerminator
Ugh, I had a cheap one fail on me before. Replaced it with a much more powerful EVGA supply. Much better now :P
EVGA <3
TheC0mpleteP0ems
I have a friend who got a bad PSU off Amazon for £15, combined with a bad case it caught fire
MyFavoriteThingtoDoisFlakeOnPlans
Same except in my case it was proper cooling for my 9590
yak3ftw
Seasonic lyfe yo.
bitemark
That's heavy
ValhallaArise
Ugh. EVERYBODY forgets this key part.
Hybris51129
Or they massively underestimate how much they need because some dumbass on youtube says you don't need 800-1000w+ psu's.
diehardlance
You don't in a lot of cases....
Considering how long a good psu will last getting overkill will ensure you won't have to replace it when you build the next rig or two. (1)
That said its not a popular thing to do because hey short term gains and fuck the future upgrade path (2/2)
fen4
PSU ALWAYS GOES FIRST. Almost always unless you get unlucky with your ram. HD don't count, shit's a crapshoot.
NicoSwagner
Yep, easily the most important piece of the rig
johnvictor
Had a vigorous argument with someone who has "worked on computers for many years" say that a $30 PSU was as good as a $60-$70 one.
Raven2311
Or monitor...Not what I did at all
STGxDante
I went cheap on my psu, and Mobo. Lots of regret. Almost no o.c. ability with Mobo, and 3rd psu I finally got a good one.
HellomynameisSatan
Pussy sucker upper?
gottaCorrect
Yeah, I have an awesome PSU, but it ends up molesting kids too often
SevenSnailDucks
Nice
SneakEFoxxe
I hope there's something I'm missing here?
daytodaze
*joke
*yolk
Penn state university... It's a yoke
ah. got it.
osnabb
"But this noname PSU has 2kW and it only costs $20!"
Turns your Geforce Titan into a pretty paperweight when it blows
DocVolt
Easy fix
TheBalto
Is there really such a thing as a poor quality 2kW PC PSU? I thought the poor ones are simply not into that market segment.
While I did exaggerate, there are cheap PSUs that have specs that they can't sustain.
Mjrdrous
*cough* "Bronze" *cough*
https://youtu.be/f6snWfd1v7M
No, this is BELOW bronze. These are ones that don't even manage 60%.
PubstarHero
The rating system has nothing to do with quality, only efficiency/heat waste. You can build something stable but inefficient. Like US cars!
bobob11
Never cheap out on the PSU
deepdarkblue
Never cheap on anything, even the keyboard. That's the secret to a long lasting PC.
HoriOri
This. I built a 13 year old family friend a rig out of a [email protected] and a 5870 that I bought close to 10 years ago. Buy once, cry once,
t3hbernardo
http://www.jonnyguru.com/ check this site for psu reviews
Glumerlink
I learned that the hard way, it fried my CPU and motherboard when it broke 6 months in.
asumagic
Yes. Never do. Talking from experience, my shitty Akasa PSU exploded.
*Seinfeld voice* How can you go cheap on the PSU? That's like building a house but skipping on the foundation!
spookyu
What are the current respectable psu manufacturers these days? I'm building a new desktop soon (far from my first, but been a minute).
AdmiralButtStuff
Happy with the Corsair I bought. Big thing is to watch watts. Not enough power is bad, but if you go too high you just run bills up.
ImperfectDad
Power doesn't really work that way. PSU only puts out what's asked.
thepersonwhostaresatyouthroughyourwebcamwhenyouthinkitsoff
Corsair, EVGA, Seasonic and Super Flower are the ones I go for. Great warranty and very reliable on their gold+ ratings
Straga27
I really like my EVGA one, wasn't cheap but its been working with no problems for almost 18 months.
CaptainAbraham
Corsair or evga with a gold rating. Can't go wrong with either. I have a evga 750 watt gold
blahtotheblahblah
Got myself a Corsair 850i Platinum because they were out of gold at the time. Runs like a fuckin champ
Santorrr
Never has there been a statement more true.
WrathCore696
They usually have 5 years warranty is one of the best investment in pc master race
I didn't consider this when upgrading one time. Bad mistake. got GPU replaced but had to buy a new board
siedler084
Even if it supplies enough a cheap one can take out your other hardware if it dies
MrSkar
Buy from Corsair or EVGA. If it isn't coming from one of those brands, do a lot of research before you buy it.
Seasonic. Antec. Thermaltake. All good brands I've had zero issue with.
dragonherder
Seasonic is also good. They make most of the power supplies for corsair etc.
SamyMousa
What's psu?
daguq
Penis Sucking Uterus
power supply unity, it's the thing that takes in AC and makes it DC that's safe and more controlled for your PC parts
LARGELinCHARGEL
Power Supply Unit. What you plug into the wall
elveector
I'm guessing but maybe it means power supply unit?
OrionJC
Penn State University
o11c
The single most important piece of a computer.
spiritualbeingonahumanjourney
I'm not a big gamer at all but $2000 for a home built PC...damn. That must be the best computer ever.
SirDixALot
I just dropped almost 3k including peripherals. Gonna upload a gallery soon.
2 top end gfx cards, 2 monitors and it all adds up from there
DahPrincess
Whyyyyyy. Why does anyone need that?
Sombike
Once you go 2 monitors, you never go back ...
bigholms
Once you go three monitors you absolutely never go back
Go to overclockers.co.uk and look at the 8pack builds
Syrupdrizzler
Just finished my first build, perifials and all cost 2k. GPU 700, processor 350, that's where it mostly is.
TobySomething
Do you remember when any decent computer cost $2k? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
IAmTheEarlyEvening
Mine cost me three...
bahumat
Try working in video editing and rendering. 12-25k for a "desktop" (housing 3-8 GPUs). The Apple one's case is basically just a turbine.
Takavos
We don't fucking care and those specs won't matter for years literally.
thelaaaaaw
if you ever want to build yourself a pc for build suggestions with a budget: www.logicalincrements.com/ and www.pcpartpicker for deals.
Logical Increments will show you suggested build for the price. PCPartpicker lists website and will help you find the cheapest website
Almost the damn build here! 16g ram and 500g SSD and cheaper moniter but other than that same. but including peripherals it was almost 3k :/
If you just do gaming you can save $ on your next build by going with a current-gen i5. i7s were designed for commercial use
Ah then you know your stuff, probably better than I do. Carry on good sir!
Swice5
Why 32gb ram? That's so unnecessary. Unless you like to run literally every Adobe program in the background while you play games?
Akran
Google Chrome
texasdean
Because fuck yo' pagefiling.
UsuallySpecial
I've had pagefile at zero since back when half a gig was a lot of RAM. Current VR PC build has 16gig, rarely bumps over 8 used.
knuckleshuffleddrainbaby
I was thinking about getting into PC, then I built .300blk, 9mm and 5.56 AR rifles and had change left over.
Dropped $3k back in 2012 and I have yet to need to upgrade anything. It pays dividends to bite the bullet and pay for the good parts.
RoseHarmonic
Also got a $3k one only a bit over a year ago. Glorious.
TK84
I did it last year. Tied with the house for best investment EVER.
1Rogue
if you want to get a maxed-out rig with some of the highest end stuff you're usually looking at a 5 figure price tag
Jesus Christ that is ridiculous. Can't imagine too many gamers can afford that. Maybe the owners of gaming companies. lol
you typically don't need it, $1k is a high-end gaming, $2-3k basically workstation etc.
How much for a decent one for my 9 year old son? I could start saving now and have it built (not by me) by next Christmas?
That being said I usually build a new comp every 4-5 years, if you drop $2-3k it'll pay itself off with longevity
pyromaniac042
Mine was about $1500: Seagate 3 TB Hard Drive, Samsung 250 gb SSD, Z170 Pro Gaming ASUS Mother Board, EVEA Geforce GTX 1070 8GB GC...
Corsair CX 750M PS, Intel Core i7 6th gen, 16GB Ballistix DDR4, Blu-Ray optical burner, Windows 10 Pro, Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler
With a Tesseract Deep Cool tower. Its the bomb.com
jcw99
You can get away with FAR less, like ~400-500USD. But often enthusiasts splurge after the first system, Dual/triple Monitor, Dual GPU...
Please give me advice. These pc posts make me think the bare minimum is like 1k
For my current build that runs most stuff Ultra-High 60FPS1080p i payed ~500GBP =~600USD
I definitely over killed then. I bit the bullet on a gtx 1070. My processor is an i5 3.5ghz. Wondering I should have gotten an i7
$1k is tolerably low. Check out Linus Tech Tips on YouTube to get actually informed.
here we see a Troll in his natural habitat, gracefully dispensing bullshit while trying to give his statement just about enough credibility
I have no experience with US prices, but in the UK you can build a basic PC that can handle 60FPS 1080P on most games (high-Mid) for ~350GBP
Thanks for the reply! Haha actually this is the post that convinced me to take the plunge. I just got all my parts, sans the case and ram!
SneaksieCorsair
High end graphics cards alone can run you 300-700 a pop. It's an expensive hobby.
Um. 700 a pop? "High end?" Bitch the high-end cards START at 700.
WhoYouGonnaCallGhostNappa
Still cheaper than warhammer
soulburner14
Vercci
Expensive if you want the best framerates at the best resolutions. If you just want to beat a console you can usually make one cheaper.
TheBasementNerd
I'm a computer nerd and aquarium nerd, and compared to building a new tank, I'd call pc building pretty cheap
PhilipJFryIII
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=expensive+gpu
thrymn
Doesn't really explain why they are expensive. Just lists them.
Yeah Just showing examples of expensive ones. I'm not sure on why either
What makes them so expensive? I thought it was all processing power that made a PC kick ass? Graphics allow HD during processing I guess?
chainedm
Every time there's a slight % increase in any aspect, they can charge what they want, because dick waving. $$$
R&D is expensive, and we're reaching the limits of silicon. Get ready for it to get pricier. Pray for graphene.
TheRivermanStyx
GPU = Graphics PROCESSING unit. It handles a bunch of the advanced processing that a CPU isn't built for like rendering and physics.
rockerBOO
GPU does physics too. CPU can only do 1-8 things at a time and a GPU can do 2000 things at the same time but is slower to do 1 thing.
Ahhhh. I see. Thanks. I'd love to see one of those things in action. It would probably blow my mind.
AstronomyDropOut
Hahahaha this is amazing. Apologies if this is old. First time i've seen this. No i dont' mean back to the future -_-
gamesthatiplay
Doom 4 plays at max settings even for my $650 Dell PC bought 2 years ago now. I think its just Doom 4.
Numus
IDK run doom on a gtx1070 with vulkan and full nightmare but barely getting above 100 fps on 1080p...
nothisistim
Just joined the master race myself, waiting on my 1070 in the mail
MinionKevin67
Can finally say I joined that crew. Spent 700$ pre tax on a Nvidia gtx 1080 so I can play games in 4k
tehchicken1
I just built my pc and got doom so I feel you
ItsDangerousToGoAlone
Uses a console controller to play an FPS on pc. ...really?
stormtrooper412
when you waste 2k of daddy's money to play Minecraft
consolepeasent
I'm relevant!
FuckMyAssAndCallMeObama
NO
CheesyPoofsWithSomeFavaBeansAndANiceChianti
Is Doom really that good? I mean, it just seems like another FPS. Why is it so special?
PiGiSpi
My favorite description is its the video game equivalent of when the butter is soft and the knife glides through it
muffinman1177
PCs are where it's at.
kmikl
TBH, the original Doom probably plays on the guitar.
bakedaf
160 fps on Linux. How 'bout that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWZvwhwT1Sk
Rcm11
soulman901
PC Master Race Card Carrying Member since 1984
100PercentLatex
Repost.
nitemayr
Video running Ironically at 24fps?
HawasKaPujari
Doom is legit fucking mind blowing.
proracing53
If you really joined the PC master race then you would be using a keyboard & mouse instead of a controller.
Infamouse
Always upvote back to the future
Klingon00
Using a controller to play doom *shudders*
thisisawaste
Oh, stop being melodramatic. At least he's not using motion controls.
megabassist
I just watched a video of someone playing it on console, and it seems way too slow for the gameplay. No thanks.
Shoelebubba
Must be something wrong with me. GTX 1070, i7 6700k, 120hz monitor, etc and can't really see a lot of difference with my old setup.
frickfracksnicketysnack
Newer hardware isn't always drastically better, how much research did you do on parts for your new setup?
AnusSlicer69
How much RAM did you put in and are you booting from or using SSD?
Shoelebubba
32g and yeah the OS is on a new SDD. So was my old one tho.
domsson
Well, the difference is that you can now play some titles you couldn't play before. And you should have more fps. Unless...
domsson
...unless your old rig was just as good as your new one. Which is not what anyone would assume.
Snooj
But why is he holding a console controller still?
BigAZNMan
Because the xbox one controller works with pc.
Hungrypiemonger
hes playing shitty doom and you're complaining about his controller? honestly some people.
domsson
shitty doom? is it, really?
Snooj
I'm just trying to make sense of the gif being PC based but him holding a console controller. I don't follow this war too closely.
Hungrypiemonger
because its 2017 and controllers work with a pc now? this is old news
Snooj
Now? I used to play Carmageddon on a PC with one almost 20 years ago. But part of the PC benefit is using a mouse on an FPS.
Yavin1v
pc benefit is being able to use whatever peripheral you want
missmalice
I switch back and forth between keyboard and controller on PC. Using controllers are easier on my wrists for binge gaming.
TheGreatDeerKing
Guuuys I'm buying a laptop soon and I know jack shit about hardware I need some guidance
Yavin1v
what dod you need a computer for ? do you really need it to be portable, laptops tend to be more expensive for the same power than a pc
TheGreatDeerKing
I move allot and my old laptop busted so I need a new one, but Imma be honest it's for gaming
Yavin1v
i hope this can help https://www.reddit.com/r/laptopgaming/ , i dont know enough about laptops myself to give you a good recommendation
thegardenhoe
Buy a pc. I made mistake of buying laptop instead of pc. works half as good with the same specs and gets 20000x as hot.
MisterSausage
Also more expensive. Don't by a laptop unless you REALLY don't have the space for a PC. There really aren't any other advantages.
domsson
This. As long as you don't really need portability, go with desktop computer. Better hardware for same price, easier to fix/mod/enhance, ...
domsson
... easier to cool, therefore better longevity; better connectivity; doesn't really take up more space (footprint wise) than laptop either
Kevm4n
Just ordered a 4K monitor and a gtx 1080..... biggest upgrade in 4 years.... I can't wait for the mailman
Filolial
The price of those 2 items are double the price of my PC, monitors and equiment. One day want a GTX 1070 maybe... or RX 480...
foxfloof
Rx480 will Rek the 1070 in a year I'm calling it.
Kevm4n
I got a good deal on Amazon for the monitor $400. And the card was 550. I've just been tired of fiddling with my settings. Time for ultra!
Filolial
Yeah, the Dutch amazon is limited to mostly books. The german one has the 1080 for 870 euro or something...
Kevm4n
That's a disgusting price. Sorry man
DougForcett
NerdN1
But you could always just make 10 higher.... If you give me a million dollars, I can make it go up to 12.
milest0nes
One of my favorite rockumentaries
HeDiedInABizarreGardeningAccident
*relevant username intensifies*
TimLippe
Why don't you just make 10 louder?
Jusmar
... ... ... These go to eleven
biggreencow
https://xkcd.com/670/
InfernoTerra
-Sings-I like the volume one louder than ten!
SparklDriver
GuitarGuy0625
Yeah? Well my amp goes to 12. HA!
thejustfinegatsby
Fun fact: spinal tap is the only movie on IMDb rated out of 11
Plan2001
I would give it about 5/7
Grevling89
Checks out. http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0088258/
Semx11
Why?
TigerswilldoANYTHINGforatunafishsandwich
It's one larger.
cfoxtrot78
TIL there was a CRM 114 in Back to the Future... just like the CRM 114 year in Dr. Strangelove.
H3rrTr1gg3r
Thank you! I see this every time with friends and no one gets it... I need new friends.
bachterman
thx 1138
madetheaccountjustforyou
Quite a few appearances: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRM_114_(fictional_device)
bax498
I immediately starting humming "the animals went in two by two" dr strange love, amazing film.
WillTheFifth
Major Kong, we got a message in over the CRM-114! Decoded it reads as Wing Attack: Plan R. R for Roberts!
H3rrTr1gg3r
How many times have I told you guys that I don't want no horsin' around on the airplane??
WillTheFifth
We're not horsing around sir! That's how it decodes! Wing Attack: Plan R, R for rosengold!
delpharseven
But you are still using a peasant controller. Keyboard and mouse for FPSes.
Zerosity
And if you must it a controller for some reason make it a steam controller!
PeePeeFrictionPleasure
Until you try playing games like Super Meat Boy with keyboard - you're gonna have a baaaaaaad time
BigAZNMan
Not always. Sometimes controllers feel better.
Corntana
You mean Racing wheels for FPSes
Shelest
Gabe himself, blessed be his name, bestowed upon us a controller. All input devices are beautiful in His eyes.
chettlar
Steam just got updated to support like just about any controller. Still in beta tho.
AltEff4
Meh, I choose depending on the game. Doom is definitely a controller game for me.
Sokonomi
PC gamers can choose to use whichever peasant controller they please. Like drinking from the skull of your slain enemies.
consolepeasent
I'm relevant
drummerman109
lol its a simple reason why its a controller instead of a mouse or keyboard, the original is a guitar pick, a controller makes more sense
LemonadeSaucer
I just don't have the space to use a mouse. Still a diamond overwatch player. Season high is 3400. It's whatever you're used to that's best.
KimJungPun
Yeah man I'm plat in LoL using a controller it's pretty sweet
Elroydb
Steam Controller motherfucka. Do you speak it?
TheGame21x
Sheeeit. Unless I'm playing an FPS for the multiplayer, I'm using a controller. Just feels better to me.
DiedAndHauntingImgur
Doom doesn't really need the precision that other FPSes require, it does need the movement though - which I find better from a controller
nipplepanties
I can only play shooters with a controller.
rowdybme
then you suck at shooters
CamelSpotter
I actually do better with a controller than I do a mouse and keyboard. Use whatever feels comfortable and fuck what anyone else says.
NNextremNN
Than you can't play shooter at all ...
chettlar
The hell games have you been playing
NNextremNN
Shooter without aimbots
chettlar
The fact that you can't imagine someone playing well with a shooter on controller without aimbots is astounding. Ever seen a halo tourny?
MagnetVox
The glory of the PC however is using whatever you want.
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chettlar
Not for most games unless you pay a ton of money so who cares
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BlackCollar
Yeah let's just conveniently forget how console users experienced a mild panic when cross-platform FPS multiplayer was introduced. Peasants.
thepasswordisbutts
You gotta admit the best way play games is with a microwave
BigAZNMan
Or that fucking goldfish
drderpymd
I use controller for everything it supports except multiplayer shooters. Couch gaming FTW
DickInAToaster
No. You people dont understand that it's called the PC master race not just for graphics, but also for the keyboard/mouse dominance.
Katalliaan
For shooters, maybe. But if I'm playing an arcadey driving game, I'm going to be using a controller because keyboards don't do analog input
BlueLanternBraxx
I game PC and some games I use the mouse/keyboard and others I use the controller. If it's a game designed for console I use the controller.
Mack1986
My rule. Simulator joystick. Shooter or strategy. Mouse. Third person controller
LokiKingOfJotunheim
MGSV:The Phantom Pain is unplayable with mouse and keyboard on PC sadly... Thankfully I have an extra XB1 controller.
skooterLaughin
There's games designed for controllers?
NNextremNN
Beat em Ups, Jump and Runs and many crappy designed console ports.
Kickingbabykittens
Dark souls is a good one for that. Keyboard controls feel clunky.
gorgosaurusrex
*There are
NNextremNN
Beat em Ups and Jump & Runs ... and bad console ports where they fucked up the interface and controls.
TallDude
Anything arcade-style is better with a controller, or local multiplayer. Nidhog, Tower Fall, etc.
lickwidghost
Anything that doesn't need precision or indicate UI is often better with a controller. Generally platform, racing, actionRPG, fighting
BlueLanternBraxx
More console-ish games. And thats just my opinion. But like, EVE or Starcraft, keyboard, Fallout/GTA controller..
BillyMaysHereWithOxiClean
Unmodded Fallout, maybe
delpharseven
Yeah I'm not saying never use a controller (as you say, for some games it is better), but Doom is definitely a keyboard+mouse FPS. I'm 1/
delpharseven
just annoyed by the incongruity, even though the controller is the only thing that would work in this animation. 2/2
chettlar
A controller is comfortable. And if playing on the TV definitely your best option. Mouse and Keyboard is only really necessary if you're-->
chettlar
--> doing multiplayer. Otherwise who cares.
aceclown
When you drop $2k on a gaming rig and forget about a decent PSU
SaintEmilio
I legit burnt through mine 3 days ago. Spent a lot more money on the replacement.
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HpBoost
I voted up, but that's sad :(
skwotingdog
And the brown out on the motherboard wrecks it all
AlexJove
indeed i just had my 850 Watt gold shit out on me, didn't take any pc components with it totaly worth the extra 100-150$ over cheaper ones
Rusticshine
WTF!? I will let you know i am only using the highest quality PSU that BESTEK ever put in my e-machines!! it runs my GTX 1080 just fine!
KevinBhall
i've had bad luck with supposed brand name PSU's! had about 3 failed corsairs !
SuperTerminator
Ugh, I had a cheap one fail on me before. Replaced it with a much more powerful EVGA supply. Much better now :P
MisterSausage
EVGA <3
TheC0mpleteP0ems
I have a friend who got a bad PSU off Amazon for £15, combined with a bad case it caught fire
MyFavoriteThingtoDoisFlakeOnPlans
Same except in my case it was proper cooling for my 9590
yak3ftw
Seasonic lyfe yo.
bitemark
That's heavy
ValhallaArise
Ugh. EVERYBODY forgets this key part.
Hybris51129
Or they massively underestimate how much they need because some dumbass on youtube says you don't need 800-1000w+ psu's.
diehardlance
You don't in a lot of cases....
Hybris51129
Considering how long a good psu will last getting overkill will ensure you won't have to replace it when you build the next rig or two. (1)
Hybris51129
That said its not a popular thing to do because hey short term gains and fuck the future upgrade path (2/2)
fen4
PSU ALWAYS GOES FIRST. Almost always unless you get unlucky with your ram. HD don't count, shit's a crapshoot.
NicoSwagner
Yep, easily the most important piece of the rig
johnvictor
Had a vigorous argument with someone who has "worked on computers for many years" say that a $30 PSU was as good as a $60-$70 one.
Raven2311
Or monitor...Not what I did at all
STGxDante
I went cheap on my psu, and Mobo. Lots of regret. Almost no o.c. ability with Mobo, and 3rd psu I finally got a good one.
HellomynameisSatan
Pussy sucker upper?
gottaCorrect
Yeah, I have an awesome PSU, but it ends up molesting kids too often
SevenSnailDucks
Nice
SneakEFoxxe
I hope there's something I'm missing here?
daytodaze
*joke
gottaCorrect
*yolk
daytodaze
Penn state university... It's a yoke
SneakEFoxxe
ah. got it.
osnabb
"But this noname PSU has 2kW and it only costs $20!"
soulman901
Turns your Geforce Titan into a pretty paperweight when it blows
DocVolt
Easy fix
TheBalto
Is there really such a thing as a poor quality 2kW PC PSU? I thought the poor ones are simply not into that market segment.
osnabb
While I did exaggerate, there are cheap PSUs that have specs that they can't sustain.
Mjrdrous
*cough* "Bronze" *cough*
osnabb
https://youtu.be/f6snWfd1v7M
johnvictor
No, this is BELOW bronze. These are ones that don't even manage 60%.
PubstarHero
The rating system has nothing to do with quality, only efficiency/heat waste. You can build something stable but inefficient. Like US cars!
bobob11
Never cheap out on the PSU
deepdarkblue
Never cheap on anything, even the keyboard. That's the secret to a long lasting PC.
HoriOri
This. I built a 13 year old family friend a rig out of a [email protected] and a 5870 that I bought close to 10 years ago. Buy once, cry once,
t3hbernardo
http://www.jonnyguru.com/ check this site for psu reviews
Glumerlink
I learned that the hard way, it fried my CPU and motherboard when it broke 6 months in.
asumagic
Yes. Never do. Talking from experience, my shitty Akasa PSU exploded.
Elroydb
*Seinfeld voice* How can you go cheap on the PSU? That's like building a house but skipping on the foundation!
spookyu
What are the current respectable psu manufacturers these days? I'm building a new desktop soon (far from my first, but been a minute).
AdmiralButtStuff
Happy with the Corsair I bought. Big thing is to watch watts. Not enough power is bad, but if you go too high you just run bills up.
ImperfectDad
Power doesn't really work that way. PSU only puts out what's asked.
thepersonwhostaresatyouthroughyourwebcamwhenyouthinkitsoff
Corsair, EVGA, Seasonic and Super Flower are the ones I go for. Great warranty and very reliable on their gold+ ratings
Straga27
I really like my EVGA one, wasn't cheap but its been working with no problems for almost 18 months.
CaptainAbraham
Corsair or evga with a gold rating. Can't go wrong with either. I have a evga 750 watt gold
blahtotheblahblah
Got myself a Corsair 850i Platinum because they were out of gold at the time. Runs like a fuckin champ
Santorrr
Never has there been a statement more true.
WrathCore696
They usually have 5 years warranty is one of the best investment in pc master race
skwotingdog
I didn't consider this when upgrading one time. Bad mistake. got GPU replaced but had to buy a new board
siedler084
Even if it supplies enough a cheap one can take out your other hardware if it dies
MrSkar
Buy from Corsair or EVGA. If it isn't coming from one of those brands, do a lot of research before you buy it.
PubstarHero
Seasonic. Antec. Thermaltake. All good brands I've had zero issue with.
dragonherder
Seasonic is also good. They make most of the power supplies for corsair etc.
SamyMousa
What's psu?
daguq
Penis Sucking Uterus
Glumerlink
power supply unity, it's the thing that takes in AC and makes it DC that's safe and more controlled for your PC parts
LARGELinCHARGEL
Power Supply Unit. What you plug into the wall
elveector
I'm guessing but maybe it means power supply unit?
OrionJC
Penn State University
o11c
The single most important piece of a computer.
spiritualbeingonahumanjourney
I'm not a big gamer at all but $2000 for a home built PC...damn. That must be the best computer ever.
SirDixALot
I just dropped almost 3k including peripherals. Gonna upload a gallery soon.
aceclown
2 top end gfx cards, 2 monitors and it all adds up from there
DahPrincess
Whyyyyyy. Why does anyone need that?
Sombike
Once you go 2 monitors, you never go back ...
bigholms
Once you go three monitors you absolutely never go back
Raven2311
Go to overclockers.co.uk and look at the 8pack builds
Syrupdrizzler
Just finished my first build, perifials and all cost 2k. GPU 700, processor 350, that's where it mostly is.
TobySomething
Do you remember when any decent computer cost $2k? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
IAmTheEarlyEvening
Mine cost me three...
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bahumat
Try working in video editing and rendering. 12-25k for a "desktop" (housing 3-8 GPUs). The Apple one's case is basically just a turbine.
Takavos
We don't fucking care and those specs won't matter for years literally.
thelaaaaaw
if you ever want to build yourself a pc for build suggestions with a budget: www.logicalincrements.com/ and www.pcpartpicker for deals.
thelaaaaaw
Logical Increments will show you suggested build for the price. PCPartpicker lists website and will help you find the cheapest website
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SirDixALot
Almost the damn build here! 16g ram and 500g SSD and cheaper moniter but other than that same. but including peripherals it was almost 3k :/
Elroydb
If you just do gaming you can save $ on your next build by going with a current-gen i5. i7s were designed for commercial use
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Elroydb
Ah then you know your stuff, probably better than I do. Carry on good sir!
Swice5
Why 32gb ram? That's so unnecessary. Unless you like to run literally every Adobe program in the background while you play games?
Akran
Google Chrome
texasdean
Because fuck yo' pagefiling.
UsuallySpecial
I've had pagefile at zero since back when half a gig was a lot of RAM. Current VR PC build has 16gig, rarely bumps over 8 used.
knuckleshuffleddrainbaby
I was thinking about getting into PC, then I built .300blk, 9mm and 5.56 AR rifles and had change left over.
Hybris51129
Dropped $3k back in 2012 and I have yet to need to upgrade anything. It pays dividends to bite the bullet and pay for the good parts.
RoseHarmonic
Also got a $3k one only a bit over a year ago. Glorious.
TK84
I did it last year. Tied with the house for best investment EVER.
1Rogue
if you want to get a maxed-out rig with some of the highest end stuff you're usually looking at a 5 figure price tag
spiritualbeingonahumanjourney
Jesus Christ that is ridiculous. Can't imagine too many gamers can afford that. Maybe the owners of gaming companies. lol
1Rogue
you typically don't need it, $1k is a high-end gaming, $2-3k basically workstation etc.
spiritualbeingonahumanjourney
How much for a decent one for my 9 year old son? I could start saving now and have it built (not by me) by next Christmas?
1Rogue
That being said I usually build a new comp every 4-5 years, if you drop $2-3k it'll pay itself off with longevity
pyromaniac042
Mine was about $1500: Seagate 3 TB Hard Drive, Samsung 250 gb SSD, Z170 Pro Gaming ASUS Mother Board, EVEA Geforce GTX 1070 8GB GC...
pyromaniac042
Corsair CX 750M PS, Intel Core i7 6th gen, 16GB Ballistix DDR4, Blu-Ray optical burner, Windows 10 Pro, Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler
pyromaniac042
With a Tesseract Deep Cool tower. Its the bomb.com
jcw99
You can get away with FAR less, like ~400-500USD. But often enthusiasts splurge after the first system, Dual/triple Monitor, Dual GPU...
PiGiSpi
Please give me advice. These pc posts make me think the bare minimum is like 1k
jcw99
For my current build that runs most stuff Ultra-High 60FPS1080p i payed ~500GBP =~600USD
PiGiSpi
I definitely over killed then. I bit the bullet on a gtx 1070. My processor is an i5 3.5ghz. Wondering I should have gotten an i7
RoseHarmonic
$1k is tolerably low. Check out Linus Tech Tips on YouTube to get actually informed.
jcw99
here we see a Troll in his natural habitat, gracefully dispensing bullshit while trying to give his statement just about enough credibility
jcw99
I have no experience with US prices, but in the UK you can build a basic PC that can handle 60FPS 1080P on most games (high-Mid) for ~350GBP
PiGiSpi
Thanks for the reply! Haha actually this is the post that convinced me to take the plunge. I just got all my parts, sans the case and ram!
SneaksieCorsair
High end graphics cards alone can run you 300-700 a pop. It's an expensive hobby.
bahumat
Um. 700 a pop? "High end?" Bitch the high-end cards START at 700.
WhoYouGonnaCallGhostNappa
Still cheaper than warhammer
soulburner14
Vercci
Expensive if you want the best framerates at the best resolutions. If you just want to beat a console you can usually make one cheaper.
TheBasementNerd
I'm a computer nerd and aquarium nerd, and compared to building a new tank, I'd call pc building pretty cheap
PhilipJFryIII
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=expensive+gpu
thrymn
Doesn't really explain why they are expensive. Just lists them.
PhilipJFryIII
Yeah Just showing examples of expensive ones. I'm not sure on why either
spiritualbeingonahumanjourney
What makes them so expensive? I thought it was all processing power that made a PC kick ass? Graphics allow HD during processing I guess?
chainedm
Every time there's a slight % increase in any aspect, they can charge what they want, because dick waving. $$$
HoriOri
R&D is expensive, and we're reaching the limits of silicon. Get ready for it to get pricier. Pray for graphene.
TheRivermanStyx
GPU = Graphics PROCESSING unit. It handles a bunch of the advanced processing that a CPU isn't built for like rendering and physics.
rockerBOO
GPU does physics too. CPU can only do 1-8 things at a time and a GPU can do 2000 things at the same time but is slower to do 1 thing.
spiritualbeingonahumanjourney
Ahhhh. I see. Thanks. I'd love to see one of those things in action. It would probably blow my mind.