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https://www.rt.com/uk/424560-money-laundering-tory-donations/
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2020/feb/02/major-tory-donor-lycamobile-embroiled-in-three-disputes-with-hmrc
STOP commenting about RT. If one link isn't good enough, go google for yourself. You're a capable human being who is smart enough to search for sources aren't you?
" The UK reportedly prevented a raid on a mobile company suspected of money laundering because it donated to the Conservative Party, despite the Home Office vowing to implement the toughest anti-money laundering plan in a decade. "
Because they are funding the corrupt party, they are able to avoid criminal charges.
This is just as bad as making someone a Lord because they supported Brexit financially. -_-......
The Conservatives are failing us every single day.
BautaStein
Germany here, lets talk about everyone involved in Cum-Ex
TeaMan101
Bloody tories
smugg77
Does anybody actually take anything reported on RT seriously?
SuperNova51
It was also in The Guardian. Check other comments for more.
cleannicefrenchimgurian
hum... be carefull there. the info is coming from "RUSSIA TODAY". not sure I would take this info for granted.
SuperNova51
Same story covered by The Guardian.
dannne
Why are people up voting this post? It's using a Russian propaganda source?! FFS!
SuperNova51
It was also in The Guardian. Check other comments for more.
saganworshipper
RT = Russia Today. It's Russian Federation state-owned media. Stay away.
SuperNova51
The Guardian did the same news. :)
saganworshipper
Even Fox will run AP and Reuters stories.
YouMayFindThisMildlyInteresting
Literal Russian state propaganda as a source, though?
gurlsnuggler
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2020/feb/02/major-tory-donor-lycamobile-embroiled-in-three-disputes-with-hmrc
chromed
Lol and then downvoting the guardian. I guess they didn't want a source they just wanted to shit on this story.
londonosierra2000
Why would you think they're on Trump's side?
SuperNova51
Because Boris ADORES taking to Trump but hates everyone else?
mmodlin
"Posted on Apr 19, 2018"
mmodlin
Current status: https://www.theguardian.com/money/2020/feb/02/major-tory-donor-lycamobile-embroiled-in-three-disputes-with-hmrc
LollipopKid
Also funny famously anti-immigration parties biggest donor is a company who sells calling cards to allow immigrants to call home.
SuperNova51
Tories never make sense. Nothing but money, money, money.
Thorpington
when companies have prefrance over the needs of the people, its no longer a democracy, but a corpocracy.
YouMayFindThisMildlyInteresting
Actual not-Russian-propaganda source, from 2018: https://www.buzzfeed.com/heidiblake/uk-refused-to-raid-lycamobile-citing-its-tory-donations
Glennhysen
Who the fuck uses RT as a source for their info? Please dislodge head from sphincter.
SuperNova51
You are free to look it up for other sources. No one is stopping you.
Bovisstercus
And you are free to stop poisoning public debate by posting Russian propaganda.
SuperNova51
And you're free to get a life, a personality and some intelligence. Go on, I'll wait.
Bovisstercus
I'll get right on that.
gurlsnuggler
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2020/feb/02/major-tory-donor-lycamobile-embroiled-in-three-disputes-with-hmrc
ImNotStalkingYouBTWYoureOutOfMilk
https://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/treasury-committee/news-parliament-2017/lycamobile-hmrc- [1]
ImNotStalkingYouBTWYoureOutOfMilk
response-chairs-statement-17-19/ [2] Link more than 140 chars
Jeffective
Oh thank god. Bad politicians that aren't american.
SuperNova51
Boris was born in America...New York, same as Trump. He's American by birth.
Jeffective
And you couldn't have kept that to yourself. Damn we suck.
SuperNova51
Pfft, Google has it free for anyone to read!
MadmanMartan
When are you fuckin children going to get it through your thick fuckin heads. It's not a left vs right, red vs blue, cons vs libs. It's you!
SuperNova51
No dude, it's Right vs Left, Rich and corrupt always win and always screw the country up. Boris and Trump are prime examples.
billyrayvirus
Seeing this as a foreigner: Do you take these ads seriously when they have dumbass photo edits like that?
billyrayvirus
In America, this is the exact style of image that Facebook moms circulate, usually involving essential oils.
VVarlord
Just propaganda, every party has something hiding in the closet, you have to vote based on the lesser of the evils these days!
chromed
That's a terrible excuse to not compare closets. You got an example of the other parties doing something this corrupt?
Wankathon
Makes it lose all credibility to me
horusheresay
We don't take much of anything seriously here and both major parties are viewed with a ton of skepticism over past bungles.
jinbee
I never take any ad seriously... for something like this I look for someone posting a reliable sauce
davegsm82
Everything is taken with a pinch of salt, everything. But still use them as a way to do your own digging.
TrustMeImADog
Think how stupid the average person is. Half are more stupid than that.
SecondAccountforDoingOtherShit
Most dont. But some really like seeing big pictures of their leaders/enemies. They wouldnt keep doing it if it didnt work on someone.
SckThaDJ
Call it confirmation bias but eeeeeeverybody knows the Tories are corrupt af
postalval
same could be said of every party, they all lie to get into power , fail to deliver and then only look out for themselves and their backers
chromed
I'm not super familiar with UK politics but anytime I see someone say they're all exactly the same I assume they support the party that /1
chromed
Benefits most from voter suppression.
postalval
not really it's just apathy towards the bastards, the only way to change things is to vote but we still get the same regardless who wins,1/2
marksmind
I get the sentiment, but sharing articles from Russia Today is not the most helpful way to improve our democracy.
SuperNova51
It was also in The Guardian. Check other comments for more.
mobocracyrocker
here in the US too
Blake242
They all are. The UK government is a 3-way shit show failing to even cover up it's corruption and ineptitute. They are criminals given power
SuperNova51
Don't know why you got down-voted. You're correct. Criminals are given power. Boris for example. Immigrant himself AND put the idea>
SuperNova51
> Of herd immunity into his IDIOTIC voters heads, which is directly linked to why England's death toll is so huge.
Blake242
Thanks, yeah I think some people don't like to hear that our government is a failure through and through, rather than just insulting 1 party
mirrelle
Why does she look like palpatine here. Is she the senate?
LollipopKid
Surprised RT is reporting that as Conservative Party is basically owned by Russia
bohjeenie
As bad as Cleggy getting a knighthood for service to politics after destroying the Liberal Democrats voter base.
IsThisHowYouMakeUserNamesImNewHere
Her husband was on the board of a company "lobbying" to remove min wage when she was PM.
TheMadOnion
I don't understand what the big deal about laundering money is. Money is dirty, it needs to be cleaned sometimes.
cenataur
First time in 30 years I've not voted blue. Finally seeing them for what they are.
horusheresay
I'd love a credible option but blue, red and yellow have failed us totally at each opportunity ?
Choix77
Shame it took you 30 years to see it ?
themexicanwave
As a Scotsman, thank fuck... but also, what the fuck took you so long mate?
goochtickler
Glad to hear you kept an open mind and can't be blinded from their actions indefinitely
SuperNova51
To be fair, they try super hard to cover their crap up. Not working as often anymore.
snowblol
Welcome, comrade
TrustMeImADog
I'm curious why you are disavowing them?
themexicanwave
Coz they are cunts.
Selerox
Because they're a hideous, callous, Russian-compromised, incompetent shower of cunts?
TrustMeImADog
Top marks for prose but zero for reasoned argument, sir.
AndAtThisPointImTooAfraidToAsk
Honestly, they're a lot more centre than they used to be. May I ask, was it them that changed, or you (or how you saw them)?
cenataur
A bit of both tbh...
AndAtThisPointImTooAfraidToAsk
I'm not sure why I'm getting downvoted. I didn't mean any offence and I hope you didn't take any. Hope you found a party you can vote for!
AndAtThisPointImTooAfraidToAsk
Which is not always easy these days!
TrustMeImADog
You interrupted the rapid circle jerking that passes for political debate in Britain today. Blues eat babies and reds are terrorists /s
AndAtThisPointImTooAfraidToAsk
Haha good point. I think people forget about the lower public funding under Cameron, taxes under Brown, and ya know, Iraq under Blair
TrustMeImADog
Rabid*
cenataur
No idea... Imgur I guess lol I'm in the process of finding the right one for me.
AndAtThisPointImTooAfraidToAsk
Yeah, I voted labour but honestly my MP hasn't followed through our even tried to vote on stuff.
expectantbamboo
Are conservatives blue in the UK?
lovecraftbeer
I mean they used to be in the US too...kind of. Before Nixon’s southern strategy.
ReallyNotAVampire
Have to remember that US politicians did an ideal swap sometime between the Civil War and FDR.
UsagiJak
Blues are Tory, Red is diet Tory and Gold is Yellow Tory
mytapeworm
Yep and Labour are red, Liberal Democrats are gold, The Green Party is..... and UKIP/Brexit Party are fascists.
ryohji
So UKIP and Brexit are basically brown. An appropriate colour for people who keep soiling their pants in fear.
leethario695
Woah woah woah, ukip and the brexit party are very anti-brown. Don't upset them.
Selerox
Accurate and concise.
jharasym
Brexit party is purple; attempting to look regal I think. Brexit party is Turquious.
TheLaughingMagician
Purple represents corruption and dark magic in video games though. Necromancers popular with the elderly but just raiding for spares.
goflyblind
and canada, and poland, and most of the rest of the world: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_colour#Blue
SuperNova51
The Conservatives are showing their true colours, but it's even more shameful they try to disgrace and slander Scotland as they fail.
mdzmdz
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18620040.scottish-government-referred-lord-advocate-failure-protect-care-home-residents
TheLaughingMagician
Corona virus has shown Westminster is an abusive marriage where one partner controls the bank accounts and thinks we should thank them.
SuperNova51
Exactly. Now is Scotland stupid enough to stay and tolerate it and probably die? Or run and never look back? I say run.
barryleaper
hard to run when someone else has the key to the shackles
cenataur
I say run! Unfortunately, last time they tried that, Mr Blair had the boundaries redefined to exclude the oilfields! ?
TrustMeImADog
If only your economy could survive without the oil.
TheLaughingMagician
Our fresh water and renewables are quickly going to be more of an asset than Oil Fields requiring decommissioning in the foreseeable future
torp
Everybody has it's rebublicans...
TheLaughingMagician
Non RT source https://www.theguardian.com/money/2020/feb/02/major-tory-donor-lycamobile-embroiled-in-three-disputes-with-hmrc
sheep21
Much obliged, bugger RT
TrustMeImADog
So Hmrc are actually investigating Lycamobile?
MomofukuJones
Thanks, I tend to consider RT in the "my uncle's rambling fb opinion" level of reliability
AHHHBEEEES
Thank you, doing the good work
MissSiesta
Thank you. I read "According to BuzzFeed News" and was ready to dismiss the whole thing...
giganticroboticpenguin
Thank you. I don't trust RT when they are the only source of a story.
MatthewJohnsona
Thanks for providing a less biased source that doesn't quote buzzfeed news.
SuperNova51
Try just accepting news instead of trying to get it only from a source you want. Go and google.
MatthewJohnsona
Do you think about your comments before posting them because that's a little contradictory?
Yellowboy66
So the French asked us to raid their offices. We said you don't have enough evidence so we'd get screwed in court. They backed off.
bluecobra777
Left out the part where you (since you used the term "us") noted the firm was your biggest corporate donor.
Yellowboy66
Which was clearly only used in the articles to get attention. It doesn't even try to claim that was the reason why, just mentioned. And if /
Yellowboy66
I was being asked to illegally raid a company by the french I'd probably say something like "sod off, they'll hang us in court and I won't /
Yellowboy66
Get any sympathy from the government as they're a massive donator"
TheLaughingMagician
I would suggest seriously auditing the fuckers like their arse is a telescope this tax year, because it's still looking shady as fuck.
Yellowboy66
Oh 100%, even look at building our own criminal case. But you can't just go raiding people because another country asked nicely.
TheLaughingMagician
Over £100 million unaccounted for somewhere in a web within a labyrinth of tax havens is a pretty good reason.
Yellowboy66
Tax havens and offshore companies are not illegal, so you can't use that as justification. Any evidence obtained would be thrown out
drGrafenberg
So, what happened here?
newsguycraigevans
A bit of a sticky wicket
Curii
As far as I can tell, Labour supporting Imgurians are trying to blame the current government for something that happened under a 1/x
Curii
previous administration. Bit like blaming Trump for the invasion of Iraq in 2003. their proof is Russia Today, a totally not biassed news2/x
Curii
news agency.
willwscarlet10
As an American, welcome to the club! First time?
ghiiiyref
You dickhead Britain has a much longer and richer history if EVERYTHING. Americans can never say that to the United Kingdom u ignorant dick
DanteLidge
You mean as a former colony of Britain, you're asking Britain if it's their first time?
Ihaveafork
U
BrokeMyFunnyBone
They actually precede us, it's just that the U.S is more visible, especially to the U.S.
cepacolusmaximus
Yaaayyyy it's not just us!
SiangSpaceTraveler
Insert “first time” meme here
Jaghut
Britain was having bad politics even before your country was accidentally created, man.
alecdshope
As I recall, it was your bad politics that made us create our country.
Imalwaysready
Some might even go so far as to say ours was accidentally created BECAUSE of your bad politics...
Zamm005
Others would understand that it was, like almost every other US problem, just about money...
teethteethteeth
Its been every problem since Unga stole berries from Grogg's cave and used them to buy Ooga's affections.
l009
Nope, we got hundreds of years of it.
JackSandwich
I was gonna say, sadly we've been like this before the U.S. existed.
l009
Yeap, long before parliament took over all control also.
Rockthatbooty
Lol who do you think USA inherited those “values”
themexicanwave
Oh sweet summer child. The ‘British’ aristocracy have been fucking us over for centuries. Almost a millennia.
SuperNova51
We've had some horrible Conservatives / Tories before, but this one beats the lot! Like a flat Diet Trump beer.
stimcity
Herr Flop
Johnpaulcones
Trump with extra steps
SanityPup
I mean, Boris I'd say just is a little diet Trump. Or like a budget Trump. When you can't afford the original kinda thing.
garuffthehorse
Listen this lot are proper shite, but they aren't worse than Thatcher. Her and that lot were evil *and* competent.
SuperNova51
Thatcher was the queen of steel. No one can come close to THAT level of soul-less.
Doumdidoum
Worst than the Tories who lost America over a 1% tax? Or those who refused to feed the Irish/Scottish during the famine? Or Chamberlain?
SuperNova51
Tories in general. Cancer.
Doumdidoum
Indeed.
willwscarlet10
Lol. Theres nothin bot Trump thats Diet! But at this point I'd take a diet in a second
CWrightPills
I’d take a Diet of Worms over him
willwscarlet10
SuperNova51
Lol he's FullFat Trump, Boris is Diet Trump. Together they are still horrible. Hahahahha
willwscarlet10
HarryDresdenIsMySpiritAnimal
What a horrible thing to say!!! DIET BEER?! Shame on you for giving someone that concept.
SuperNova51
But...Diet Beer IS a thing! Corona Light for example ;.;
HarryDresdenIsMySpiritAnimal
*sticks fingers in ears* LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA
SuperNova51
-Screams out other diet products before having a heart attack. Low calories isn't always a good thing folks!-
doyouinvert
Our conservatives would be regarded as communist agitators in the US.
themexicanwave
This is also true. American centre left is so far right that it makes our right look like the far left. If you know what I mean...
WhereCanYouSeeLions
No, they really wouldn't. The Overton window has shifted in the US, but the Tories are still right wing and work in those circles.
doyouinvert
Your socialist antifa loving Marxist Democrats would be to the right of even some of our more feral Tories.
WilliamWeird
How do you do that? Do you just shove letters down a hose and force word dissociation out the other end?
doyouinvert
Sick hose burns dude.
WhereCanYouSeeLions
Mate, I'm from the UK. I'm just not mental enough to think that the Tories are fucking left wing.
FallingStar7669
Oh my sweet summer child. I'm sure this is not the first bit of political turmoil jolly old England has gone through.
repurposedschleem
Oh there's always been worse, though I don't recall a country putting itself under trade sanctions before
Asatim
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
RearAdmiralObvious
We learned from watching y'all do it!
repurposedschleem
Git gud noob ?
repurposedschleem
I think Brexit is a bigger fuckup than Trump, we'll be feeling the effects for decades.
Ploty
Hold here, are you guys boasting about who has the worst leaders?
repurposedschleem
We're fighting over who has it worse, loser has to live in slightly better conditions I guess
HistoriesOfXandY
If you stick one hand in acid, and the other in fire, at the end of the day you still fucked yourself up.
Sasurau
I don't know. I like the comparison, but not sure if completely accurate to what we both did. I think replace hand for nut and we're closer.
DarkRedCape
Trump has done irreparable damage to the US legal system. He's shown how far you can push things with no consequences.
Ploty
And you haven't seen the rest he planned
AvatarTommyBee
Probably .. and the tax cut .. I wonder whether Biden can role that back. Or the EPA-shit.
goodguyC
I believe they are two symptoms of the same disease. Nationalism crept back into power, despite our nations' hatred for Hitler's Germany.
SecondAccountforDoingOtherShit
There's the problem We dont teach a sane moral country swept up by divisive rhetoric It was "Hitler's Germany" Monsters! Theyre gone! Right?
SecondAccountforDoingOtherShit
So many of us truly thought those times were over Sure people are mad but THAT could never happen here We're different When we're really not
FalconWithABoxOnItsHead
Are you implying we won’t? You can’t un-dead 150k+ people...
repurposedschleem
We've got a higher excess death rate per capita and the worst in Europe. We've got irreversible damage to the economy on top of that.
schananagans
It's called building an undead army for the upcoming world war. The Ice King did it so we know it works.
secretdpp
And 2020 is still better than season 8