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OldButtStillFat
My friend can't get an MRI because they are afraid the piece of metal in his eye will tear his eye out.
Bystandr
Almost every single one of those regulations exists at least in part because someone got hurt. Think of the poor guys who lost eyeballs.
SenfinaZeit
I know "guys" can technically specify any amount, but it really has a tone of "a couple guys" instead of "the probably thousands" that have.
UserNamesArentEasy
lackinglife
My fave saying about OSHA. "If you ever stop and think that it might be a OSHA violation, it is in fact several OSHA violations"
Itinerate
I’ve heard the same thing in tax law and environmental law.
Mikeythefireman
Deeply profound truth right there.
AllAnusMorissette
Mikeythefireman
As a firefighter, I know that every safety rule in my industry is written because someone died. Usually lots of someones.
ISleptWithSomeoneFromImgurAndAllIGotWasThisStupidUsername
my buddy would always get shit for wearing his safety glasses at a small shop and at the end of the day 1/2
ISleptWithSomeoneFromImgurAndAllIGotWasThisStupidUsername
all the old guys would use a magnet to get the small metal dust from their eyes. wild. 2/2
Goldenteckel
dansik
Safety glasses aren’t just for work My son scratched my cornea. Painful pain and blindness for days after!
celestedrake
duktayp
Homer Simpson: "if something starts flying just turn your head!"
georgedragonslayer
I despise Osha. Also, thank you Osha for making my employer spend money for my safety. But please, stop sending auditors that have no clue.
AmericasNextTopFondler
Boss: Ya got yer PPE on? Me: Yessir! *engage safety squints*
Dunothar
Mother on speed dial, double rubber. corntact!
drziod
yes OSHA rules were written in blood
kapricornfalling
OSHA is a prime example of "who the fuck did they have to make that rule because of" mad then the answer is WAY too many folks
vicvalour
Every single rule is because someone died or was injured
DSREX
Crazy important fact.
rusaide
When I was getting my OSHA-30 our teacher was also an inspector and showed us a couple pictures of aftermaths to make sure we understood
SithShodan
Behind every warning sign and safety seminar...there is a story
OnePostCloserToAHappierLIfe
* dumbass. Mind you, the dumbass isn't necessarily the one that paid the price.
NotSoFastener
Behind every warning is a story, and every regulation is a true story.
maskedrabbit
*terrible injury or death
FailedCS
possibly a lawsuit worth millions
woozle
you'll poke your eye out!
spookyhats
OSHA is like a condom. Sure it's more fun with out em, until the repercussions come around.
OneUniverse
Every maritime regulation written is base on deaths. OSHA regulations are written on deaths and permeant maiming injuries.
MoonAmericanFloydHeywoodR
Those who have their eyes on ending OSHA may have their eyes because of OSHA.
thesmarterdog
OSHA exists because of every "Hold my beer & watch this!" moment.
thrashingcows
Testosterone making guys stupid since forever…
TeddyMoment
A bit more because of employers "safety gear and training costs too much" moments.
wiggliest
Is that what one ceo says to a visiting ceo while watching the production line?
SuicidalThrillbillyturnedLunaticChillbilly
OSHA also exists because without them, your employer could fire you if you refuse to do a task that is unsafe.
rgraz65
A lot exists because someone said, "How much?!" And then cut corners looking to get a pat on the head if manager, and "fuck it" from owners.
dwilson0725
Workers: Ugh, here comes the OSHA inspector, guess I have to stop breathing toxic fumes and wear fall protection. Ugh!
SirButcher
Okay, but if I don't work myself to the bone how my boss will buy his next Ferrari? And if he buys it, maybe I can get £0.01 pay rise!
tridgit
every rule is written with someones blood.
HawkmanXLII
I can't tell what I'm looking at.
lackinglife
Looks kindaaaaa like a piece of flex conduit, but honestly it would be impressive to mess up enough to imbed that in glasses
JadeNB1729
Neither could the person wearing these safety glasses.
Mec26
Safety goggles with shrapnel embedded i them. Ans not embedded in an eyeball.
HawkmanXLII
Of course, now I see it.
DaisyWarrior
"Socialist" systems are very profitable for within them
Lazarillo
You wanna know the funny bit? OSHA was established under the watchful eye of that infamous socialist president...Richard Nixon.
JadeNB1729
Also started the EPA. Damned dirty commie.
LordSintax79
To be fair (Letterkenny chorus), by the standards of the modern republicans, he kind of IS.
JadeNB1729
Well, the modern Republican party can't be expected to keep up with the rigorous ethical standards of a Nixon.
OctopusSummoner
I had to tell a pregnant co-worker that she was using a radioactive tool at work every day, since nobody else bothered to.
SenfinaZeit
I have so many questions
OctopusSummoner
A compressed air tool handpiece with radioactive isotopes to reduce static. It has a very small warning label, but everyone just ignored it.
OctopusSummoner
That was the most egregious safety violation of so very many. They also wouldn't provide any MSDS or PPE except nitrile gloves.
OctopusSummoner
It's easier and cheaper in the short run for your employer to assume you're disposable. Don't let them.
Fejerro
AndrewBuggy
Ive seen people welding like this.
xbiu
Safety squints ftw!
SithShodan
I still have a leg thanks to OSHA approved chainsaw chaps. They're not all bad.
evilspock
When you hear someone bitching about "unnecessary government regulation" - that's workplace safety and consumer protection laws.
Merky600
We chuckle at heroin cough syrup. But the FDA was created in response to….dead children.
SenfinaZeit
And the EPA because toxic sludge literally came out of the streets in the middle of a town.
PiercedViking
Building codes are kinda important, too.
evilspock
And the person bitching about it *is not your friend*.
Gayforbae
No, its my dad. Who was an MSHa inspector
JadeNB1729
That's not true! I've been assured we're all family here!
ArkoneAxon
Yep. There's not a single regulation that applies to consumers. Only to employers and producers of potentially defective/dangerous products.
tlamstrike
Seriously? The gov't does regulate what the consumer can do with the products they own.
ArkoneAxon
Not unless you're talking about using them as weapons for assaults. (Or, to be fair, if you're talking about the War on Drugs)
tlamstrike
Talking on a radio. Also making your legal weapon for LEGAL purposes too short, too light, too foreign, or too handicap accessible.
evilspock
I'm trying to tell if you're going for sarcasm or not. Drug prescriptions. Driving laws. Taxes. Littering. Noise ordinances. Truancy laws.
ArkoneAxon
We're talking about REGULATIONS, not traffic laws. Corporations aren't whining about traffic laws, they're whining because the mean old>
ArkoneAxon
government won't let them bring lifesaving new snake oils to customers without testing, and won't let them employ voluntary slave workers.
evilspock
God no not REGULATIONS. laws are laws, and the only difference between love canal and drunk drivers is scope of harm and money.
ArkoneAxon
Oh, I know they do. But it's the corporations pushing the "regulations are bad, big government is evil" narrative, and they're NOT talking>
evilspock
And if you don't think drunk drivers wail on about "my freedom" - go do some jury duty. Everyone who breaks laws likes to scream "unjust"
KuldFyt
CivilizedUndead
Hyundai had to cut ties with a bunch of plants in Alabama because of fucking forced child labor with kids as young as 12. Fuck capitalism.
keillrandor
Which is why THINGS are often more valuable then people, even now.
nycjtw
While I knew that, I don't think I really K-N-E-W knew that. Appreciate the reminder.
trondason1
I remember a post where a student who worked at the morgue said they were mouth-piping embalming fluid.
mstalltree
the radium girls. People should watch that movie.
RocknRootRanchcuzallwegotisrocksandrootsandafewtrees
Or read the book. Damn good and DAMN heartbreaking!
Dreamdayer
Well duh...
Enginerrrrrrrrr
This is what I tell people when they complain about a rule.
CoffeeZombie
The only thing wrong here is that *capitalism*, period, values profit over human life and well-being. They'll skirt whatever regs they can.
CoffeeZombie
That's why we need OSHA, unions, &c. to be strong enough to enforce the regulations.
Cats2cats
Once worked on a hospital unit. They decided to take apart the hallway ceiling & hang heavy plastic. A building from the 50’s. As the/3
Cats2cats
Union Rep I inquired who did the asbestos testing before starting( mom had just been diagnosed w/mesothelioma) & May I see the paperwork/2
Cats2cats
Oops somebody goofed! Immediate unit shutdown with patient transfers. The contractor tried to save money as on a deadline!/1
xxPaulCPxx
How in the hell did you know on your first post that it would take 3 total to complete what you were saying?
wisepairofjeans
It's 1/3
ankokublackfang
When I write long comments, I usually write them in a text editor first, then split them and copy/paste what I typed. 1/536,235,211,244,632
Spudd86
How much did it cost the contractor?
Cats2cats
Not a clue. My mother had just been dx w/mesothelioma(80’s) so I was more focused on that. Few people had it back then.
Ulthirm
Most of the time that sorta thing puts the contractor into bankruptcy, so basically everything. Similar thing happened to a school I cleaned
ImgurCouncilOfLlamas
The regulations were created to protect companies who do the bare minimum from liability.
Burke616
The regulations protect the workers. If a company kills you and hasn't broken a regulation, it faces no consequences. If a company hurts you
ImgurCouncilOfLlamas
Exactly. So as long as they do the bare minimum for regulations, they faced no consequences. That's the regulation's purpose.
ImgurCouncilOfLlamas
Without them, companies would be responsible for ANY harm they cause to you.
ImgurCouncilOfLlamas
Rather than just over a defined maximum.
Burke616
and they broke a regulation, the weight of the law (such as it is) is on your side. The regulations are the threat of harm that is the only
Burke616
thing companies fear.
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SMB42
I can't believe you just called me lazy! Unsafe sure, yes. But I work really hard at it
TGWeaver
You know how those lazy workers are! Storing toxic material in bunkrooms, refusing to install guard rails, not paying for fire sprinklers...
Sorenk
As a union man, what the FUCK are you talking about
Vyrro
Oh honey, please have a seat. I'm a plant manager, and i can't even begin to tell you how wrong you are
XarioWithoutALastName
Broaden your horizon. These are two different categories of mistakes happening.
inboxmefoxes
Cost cutting, poor materials, and less-safe-as-standard practice comes from the top.
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inboxmefoxes
This kind of argument is like saying BP isn't responsible for Deep Horizon because you think the rig workers are lazy schlubs.
ArkoneAxon
In my experience it's NEVER "lazy workers." It's bosses wanting to cut costs. I know a subcontractor who makes everyone else groan whenever>
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ArkoneAxon
Oh, you have no idea. This guy went through so many employees... and he STILL thinks that they were all costing him more than they brought>
ArkoneAxon
into the company. Except for his nephew, the sales rep who was making $2K/week, did NOT bring in $2K of business per week, but agreed with>
ArkoneAxon
he climbs over the edge of a lift's railings and hangs from the ceiling like a monkey. He doesn't have ANY employees except a son, because>
ArkoneAxon
NO ONE wants to work for him. He's been known to say things like, "I'm not saying to violate safety rules, but this HAS to get done..."
HeresYourSauce
I was very confused. Those are safety glasses with a chunk of something embedded in them, not a broken butt plug.
shmoogeeoogee
It might be a piece of one
quietmrbean
Thank you, ma brain is dumb
ParryLost
I'm glad I wasn't the only one. I thought some sort of snail inside of a weird glass vessel? Maybe OSHA is on the way with a tungsten sphere
Ap0c0lypstick
I also was confused about the contraption inside the glass butt plug.
JadeNB1729
Why not both?
Sevastion
I read that as broken butt bug. I don't want either in my eye. Thanks osha
TheInitiated
The post would still have worked, though.
CIGG
Guy I work with told me he was a member of the Wise Owl Club. Membership is obtained when your eye sight is saved by wearing safety glases
ApronNoPants
Thank you for this description. My brain could not figure out what I was looking at.
isaidihaveanewemail2000
It's a blue metal chip probably from a metal lathe. Super hot and melted on impact
spidermenz
I could see how could be confusing. I'm here for you
merlotmusings
Oh my! They are!!! Thank you for your comment
mushroomking
I thought it was some small deadly creature in a glass bottle. I was like well cool but why did osha put it there in the first place
sj2890
I thought it was a light bulb. Similar shape, though!
canuckup
The replies to this comment ?, Wash your brains lmfaooo
kaoticgirl
Oh. OH! I see that now. I also thought it was a broken butt plug.
Katra76
Dude, saaaaaaame!!
rbudrick
How do you know it's not a piece of a buttplug unless you were there? Username does not check out.
Thetas
I don't know why I saw a butt plug instead of safety glasses too. Thank you for your oddly specific explanation for people like us
ThisIsNotTheGreatestNameInTheWorldThisIsJustATribute
Why not both?
cardinal29
CardboardSea
Thanks. I thought it was a tiny vase with an unidentified piece of vegetation inside it.
TheMemeRecycler
Thingsorstuff
I see it!! Took a second though
MisterValiant
Yup. Thought I was looking at a decorative oil bottle.
MrKnowItAll1903
It's a claw from a large panther! His eyes are saved, but he is otherwise ripped to shreds from the panther's murder mittens!
ParryLost
THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING! MY EYES!
Hairarse
T3sl4co1l
And his wife?
DontcallmeLen
weirdcalculator
To shreds, you say.
HammSlammage
I also choose this guys shredded wife
Mzmag00
Leopards ate her face of course
Jace99
I work for a big power company in Canada, and while it does have its issues, safety isn’t one of them. Want to get fired? Break an OHAS rule
pleaseuseotherdoor
I'm a H&S rep on a Candian federal energy project and they take safety extremely seriously.
Lazarillo
Canada also did those freaking TERRIFYING workplace safety PSAs way back when. Or maybe y'all are still doing them?
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
It was my HS woodwork teacher for me. Grabbed a piece of wood, spun the bandsaw by hand, ran the wood through, and went "that's your (1
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
Finger, that's all it takes. And it wasn't even on." Repeated for all tools. Message recieved lmao.
VentricularAnomaly
Yep, still going. Burned into my memory, and as a result, no burns on me!
Jace99
Still doing them.
jackohill108888
That poor chef.
Groose
That's thw one with the pot of boiling water right? God that scream haunts me
jackohill108888
You know it. 'I was going to get married this weekend.'
HeresYourSauce
Osha gets a lot of flack, but honestly they've made a ton of progress on the not killing workers front.
SecondSince
Or just some 9 to 5 mutilation!
BeTheMirage
Osha gets a lot of flack because people are still alive to complain.
Kamishiro
Some kind of survivorship bias, eh? Reminds me of that diagram of bullet holes in planes that they realized were the least dangerous places»
Kamishiro
« for the plane to be shot, because all those planes landed, rather than being shot down.
Baromian
I mean there was that spike in preventable deaths in 2020. But yes credit where credit is due OSHA is one of the last employee protections
CelestialSea
But mah freedumb! Them goggles is makin' the 5G turn mah eyeballz gayern a big 'ol pack a skittles, I tell you what.
TrueNorthernLights
If only some of their rules weren't so "protective" they could get you killed; wearing safety glasses while using power tools in such a hot>
TrueNorthernLights
howaboutthis2718
That's a pretty good front to be making progress on.
Immaletchufinishbutno
Worked in Mexican factory, I missed and love OSHA very much now.
MrRandom314159
Workers Rights means Workers Not Dying.
Imademyselfsquirtle
Flack. Oh no someone wants a safe work environment. Fuck them right? Profits #1! Fuck safety! /s
NotSoFastener
I used to work with a man whose left eye looked like a cat's because of a metal sliver. He never neglected PPE with his remaining good eye.
AMatureTwink
Well of course, look at all the places that don't have regulations like that in place
cheezyjalapeno
osha is written with the blood of the dead.
crateo
And a few living people with an odd number of limbs
SarcasticComment
I get it's joked about, but they said "no more death" to require basic things like railings on catwalks
JoeT85
Osha exists because otherwise construction companies wouldn't comply with any safety anything.
SenfinaZeit
EPA does the same with enviromental protection.
DankTimez4Eva
Doesn't mike rowe want to dissolve osha and he said the 2020 election was rigged. That guy is a nutjob now
HeresYourSauce
Reading up on it it doesn't seem like it. His opinions are more nuanced than any Trumper I've seen, and he's spoken out against Trump...
HeresYourSauce
more than once. The "safety third" seems to be to get people talking about personal responsibility and critical thinking rather than...
HeresYourSauce
legal compliance without any thought.
HeresYourSauce
https://www.ishn.com/articles/93505--dirty-jobs--guy-says-safety-third-is--a-conversation-worth-having-
Goryofa
Most of things that hurt and kill worker are problems with systems workers have no say in or authority to change. Personal responsibility (1
Goryofa
Approaches to workplace safety was literally how industrial revolution London looked at accidents & that was a disaster. (2)
flarflarf
every rule in the osha handbook is written because someone died or was permanently injured or disfigured.
SenfinaZeit
I feel like that definitely not literally true and some regulations must have happened before an incident was allowed to happen, but I can't
SenfinaZeit
be certain without actually looking at the regulations.
flarflarf
it is not literally true, but its not a huge exaggeration,
SenfinaZeit
For sure
Mec26
Osha writes its regulations in blood.
ImgurCouncilOfLlamas
Only after a major company loses money to liability an OSHA regulation could've cleared them of.
cantevenbewhenicantevenpee
If they didn’t want to die or get injured maybe they shouldn’t have been poor. - owner against osha
gilliamv
The "regulations are written in blood" thing is useful outside of OSHA. Any time you see some dumb rule at work, someone did the dumb.
lemmesmashplease
I was about to write the same. I worked at a fortune 500 company out of college. We were famous for killing employees 1/2
lemmesmashplease
We hired one of the former hear of OSHA as our chief safety officer. He would always say every regulation was written after a fatality.
latenightbreeze
Life moves forward on the road of progress paved with the bones of a billion billion dead.
WhistlePig
Radium Girls
SpaceSphere
Triangle Shirtwaist Factory
crusadurus
God that one is so horrifying.
landisfloatingrock
Osha exists by the blood shed and lives cut short for the expectation of business profits
ShadusMacAoidh
I mean that's very true, but... it's also at least a small part the stupidity of people around large, people-maiming machines.
LookAtMYFancyUsername
Yea. One of my previous jobs had a guy who decided to use his legs to get a giant grinder unstuck. Instead of the pole provided
ryecurry9000
How'd that go?
Cashgrinder
Yea but could you imagine how much money could be made if there were no regulations or workers' rights the economy would boom - GOP probably
Salticido
I think you can drop the "probably"
Newfehotep
Best make sure health coverage and social services are tied to employment too so you don't need to deal with the human collateral.
Comet260
The GOP is an enemy of basic human empathy. They consider caring for other people a weakness.
Burke616
And caring for yourself outside the script of toxic masculinity *also* a weakness.
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
Not even true. Lack of rights and regulation is not coldly calculated profit maximising. It more akin to malicious short-sighted ideology.
Burke616
Like a fertilizer factory in Texas.
zerovanity59
Not any more. We are entering an era of worker shortage caused by the declining birth rate. On average the baby boomers are retiring in Q422
Comet260
People don't want/can't fucking afford to have kids. Looks like immigration is the solution for now.
comacomacomacomachameleon
Safety guy at work once gave a speech that I thought was pretty good. "My job is to make sure you go home to your family in one piece."
PorneliusHubertII
Every time im in a safety talk i think about a line from Sam Jackson in 187, "everybody wiggle your phalanges!"
Hashtagdelta
Majority of safety people work hard so people have fingers to flip them off with
ronlybonly
It's okay to die from carbon monoxide poisoning, just don't get chopped in half by the giant death blades. Respect the death blades.
SouperScott
If you die of that, he's still failed, because you won't be going home.
Samerious
Now I'm picturing some weekend at Bernie's shenanigans so the supervisor can uphold their oath. "Oh no I've chopped myself in half at my 1/2
Samerious
Own house, on my accord. Definitely not at my workplace."
ryecurry9000
The body is usually returned to the family in one piece.
MDAlchemist
Thank God you brought Johnny home?
Hashtagdelta
Most of it
SouperScott
To their home? Or a morgue?
ManByTechnicality
From my experience the issue is how regulations get implemented without getting workers input. On occasion tasks can be made hazardous /1
ManByTechnicality
By adding safety gear that limits movement and dexterity. Not often. But should be reviewed before implementation /end
WienerFart
Yeah, they made us use these safety auto retracting knives at work. We've had more cut incidents than before from awkward handling
ManByTechnicality
We have similar ones, thankfully I don't need to cut things often. The only thing they prevent is sticking an open blade in your pocket.
WienerFart
You know what else prevents that? My foldable box cutter that locks in place, which is no longer deemed safe
Lostcause103
Every regulation passed by a government agency has a period for public comments. Most government agencies are also willing to review
Goryofa
Also, the people that create these bills are themselves red seals or better in the trade affected. Sometimes the gear's risks is (1/2)
Goryofa
Still quite a bit less than the risk without them. e.g., fall harness are clumsy, but the odds of dying are much lower than a freefall.(2/2)
Lostcause103
Regulations, especially if there is a danger concern due to them. If you have a problem with a regulation please tell the agency. They want
Lostcause103
Worker opinions, they are just rare to get since few people know how to tell the agency or about the public comment period.