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NihiDae
I get asked to work OT all the time, I turn it down often, and the response I give my boss is always "I can't buy time with money"
GondwanaCraton
And then they drop one of your shifts because they don't want to pay your overtime...
Xaldyn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4vq9wHxCxw Our country is a fucking disgrace.
lulwtf
300 for 12 hours? nani the fuck?
Lowktar
I'd say fuck you, my personal time is more valuable to me than some monetary value.
MonsterGood
I have never cared for money. I love my free time.
MisterLemons
Get that extra day of 10hr in totaling 50: +$200 to the check. Miss a day totaling 30: -$225
FukTedCruz
Dude as a salary employee currently understaffed (partly due to our great paternity benefits) i pray for OT cuz i gotta do it regardless.
Note: I LOVE our paternity benefits cuz it applies to men/women equally but it sucks being understaffed n we legit cant find a smart one
twoamartist
Be careful! Money is tempting, but your physical and mental health is more important.
astrangehop
Exactly. How much is that six hours of sleep, that day in the sun.. etc.
Hu3vosRanch3ros
I like money
BlinkSpunk
Do it, but work like your Dr. Jekyll. Create a whole new personality for OT.
OptimisticSchrodinger
I’m getting an extra $25/hr to cover night shift for a coworker who’s hospitalized for covid. Getting a new guitar with the cash!
Glasma
I haven’t worked OT in 9 months. I worked out a deal to just work Tuesday night to Saturday morning to cover Friday nights.
AerialAceAttack
So 25$ an hour?... just 10 dollars over what the minimum wage SHOULD be.
playingthedevilsadvocate
Hell no
peelmybanana
Nurse here. Major RN shortages everywhere. My hospital is offering 500 + overtime for first extra shift and 700 + overtime for second >
Extra shift. I’m going to die.
TheManWhoStaresAtTurtles
I've worked overtime precisely once in my life since the business had a genuine emergency situation. Still enough to last me. If any company
needs it on a super regular basis (and can afford more), then they can go out of business for all I care.
hlink83127001
Me working with covid patients
BeerBatteredandBold
I wish I got OT, I just earn PTO for the hours I work.
tiderfish
Well the key there is to use them before they expire or you get fired/ laid off
Exactly! I let 2 hrs of comp time expire last year, but I've more than made up for it working from home.
LeeHarveyOshawott
I don't normally mess with overtime but I've been out of work for a year, so six weeks of 6-10s is a helpful change of pace
PrfctDrk
Ouch, I'll be happy that my wife and I can afford life and rent with just five 8 hr days
Honestly the only thing making it worth it is knowing it won't last too long, relatively. But it still suuuuucks
gerbilfury
I get "in trouble" for getting 5 min of OT. like..sorry someone called me 5 mins before I was off and chatted my ear off...
Beefkins
Me: Oh that's cool. Bye!
shetouchedmybuttholesteve
I feel that. Double time and an extra $12 an hour incentive is hard to resist.
Monolithe503
Where the fuck
I design network infrastructure for most of the country. With everyone working from home the networks are failing. Backlogs=big incentives.
WimpyTheKing
Umm what company cuz I do the same and we get paid like shit here.
TheRighteousWhizbang
let's throw tired programmers at it! /s
BigDaddysMeatWagon
Many problems have been fixed by sleep deprived programmers. And caused. But oh boy, SOMETHING happens.
HCBailly
FurtiveGlancer
Perfect clip of American debauchery
IsendDickPicsIfYouAskNicely
Instead of hundos it's like $1's
TheArtOfMeh
Get ? Those ? Onedos ?
StenosisBot
My mental AND physical health or "Onedos" ?
darksniperknight
Donating plasma. $40 for sitting on my ass for an hour while they take my plasma. Twice a week. Bonuses after 6th time per month.
30SecondsToTheMoon
Do they pay more depending on weight?
On average its $40. Light weight gets $35, heavy weight $45. And then their are bonuses depending on on certain antibodies present and
number of times donated that month.
urzumph
Twice a week? That seems like a lot. Is that healthy? In Aus it's once every 2 weeks max.
They take just plasma, return blood. Even then the place I go to has strict standards. Too high/low of temp, denied. Too low/high iron,
denied. Refuse saline solution before leaving, no money and denied further.
Yeah, the 2 weeks is for plasma in Aus, full blood donations are longer. They don't give you saline though, so maybe that's the difference
StunttheRunt
Work to live, don't live to work.
LuckyMan9
EroticZombiePants
Sadly, many people need that extra 12 hours just to live.
AnotherReplyToIgnore
Can't live if you work, can't live if you don't. Conclusion? Kill all bosses.
OutcastbyChoice
See? Video games do make us violent. And the boomers were right to be worried about it.
BatchOhhCookies
Fuckin why isn’t this upvoted more?!?
boevis
I found a job that lets me do my 3rd favorite thing and still have time for my 1st, at the cost of my 2nd.
I'll let my Mom know it's the jobs fault she's #2 :)
dabrick31
I used to be like that, but then I realized I liked being at home more than time-and-a-half
TheCroaker
I get double time on set days... Makes it hard
lorkidorggoborkbork
If I don't work 12 hours overtime every week I can't afford rent or to feed my family.
onecowboytoo
I used to be like that now I am over middle age and always in pain.
StevieTheAussie
I rather appreciate that my job refunds time-in-lieu instead of overtime. Doesn’t feel like I’m trading my free time for money.
Stuckinclass
Same specially once I saw how much they took out in taxes
flowkontrol015
Same, unfortunately the company could assign mandatory OT per the 'needs of the business' aka (we don't wanna hire more people)
Yeah they can fuck right off with mandatory OT
fafnir77
I get $400 if I work an extra shift, it's taken my a long to to learn how to turn that down
$400 for one shift? Shoot man, that’s more than half my weekly check
drbloodbathmc
Sometime, money is too expensive.
Parttimedragon
The few times they've offered overtime at my job, they only offer a 6th day instead of just longer shifts. I never take it.
PamfromTheOffice
/a/0s0visF retail schedule, it's total legal and you get no extra pay or anything ?
For me I just end up getting a bunch of OT without being scheduled, since sometimes I get stuck on a project and end up staying after
CommanderShitFace
They offer me 7 day weeks with a few doubles sprinkled in.
MBVagabond
At one of the places I worked they had some people that did 6 12s. They were all so bitter and after a while working 5 10s it got to me too.
SavageGoH
The work culture in America is so fucking toxic.
xj4low
Then I get noted as not being a team player when I don't volunteer.
Asianchubbychasr
I work for an American company (I'm in Canada) and the conference calls in the morning are fucking cringe. Gordon gecko fetish shit
Jayhatesspidersandshit
That's why I went from working 6 days a week to 4 days now
thecastironcoder112
I worked for a company that told everyone that they only care about money and that we should feel honored to work there.....
mallic
That's at least refreshingly honest, while still being toxic.
tupactopus
it's trash, i can't even imagine the people working the 996 schedule
GroumphLePreux
What is this 996 schedule ? Nine hours of sleep, nine hours of personal time and lunch and commute, six hours of work ? /s
SirDoomTrain
Yeah yeah yeah. y’all want that time and a half tho?
gunshowzero
Especially considering how much vacation time other modern countries are given… and then there’s us.
ChemicalG
I mean unless its forced, people just want that extra money hard to refuse despite being tired
Well, $300 for 12 hours is $25 per hour, right, right ?
junglerat
It really is. Management: let's save money on staffing by just handing out overtime!
prdgmshft
It really is. Coming out of the army into work. Lets just say the military was less stressful than this shit.
OT is the only way I can make more than my bills. I hate it. I make 14/hr and have a roommate.
langonator
Think of it as competitive.....
MrWolfwood
get out of here corporate goon!
VolcanoHerder
We can still be competitive and not work obsessed. What if we competed over who volunteered the most hours at the shelters?
What and miss a promotion?
Give up my Guatemalan maid!
thebigbaka
Been picking up a bunch OT and that's been going on for quite a while, now my lifestyle has adjusted to require it
DarralHunter
America? Gtfoh last time I was in a factory I took every scrap of over time I could get. That shit was time and a half or more
Imademyselfsquirtle
And less productive.
squillis
Just wait till you're salary and don't get OT anymore but are expected to work even more hours
Or you work in a field like software development where they can legally not pay extra for OT
Shaodyn
https://20somethingfinance.com/american-hours-worked-productivity-vacation/ We are the most overworked developed nation on the planet.
JordanJohnson23
Yup I work 40 in a very high physical job they said work a Xtra 10 11 hour get a 500$ bonus
Agree
ILikeRespondingWithWillSmithGifs
I e been working two jobs for so long, I forget to take a day off every other month. Also being a dad with no spouse. Fucking kills you.
Lostarchitorture
Right there with you. 2 jobs taking over weekdays and weekends. Last day off was Fourth of July. My next day off is Labor Day
NinjaGrizzlyBear
That's ironic because I'm guessing one way or another you'll still end up doing some form of labor
I haven’t had a labor day in almost a decade now. March 2023 would be 1 decade without vacation, or acknowledge day off I don’t do errands.
Holy shit. I’m a new dad with just one job and a spouse. I feel exhausted all. the. Fucking. time. I feel for ya, man. Best of luck.
Thanks man.. I hope you a great and happy life.. experience the little things for me..
wick3dc4ke
I turned down OT recently and my supervisors response was "what? You don't like money?" I have plenty and I value my time away more, thanks.
DustinDustyDust
I love my overtime. They will also let u bank that time and have extra days off.
SometimesIFeelLikeAGenius
Substitute teacher here, it is horrible. It feels worse than previous semesters.
Onegermangamer
it is not a work culture, it is a "low wages culture" that forces people to do/accept to work overtime to survive and pay the bills.
ABillionDucks
They're the same picture
DonkeyOD
It's definitely not limited to low wages though
phillini
It’s true, but when you are fearful of a huge medical bill around every corner - there is NEVER enough in savings.
Renafoxtrot
Savings? Wtf is... savings?
BubblesTheFish
At the same time you can't ruin your body so bad that you end up spending that money you were saving.
Wozzup
Gee, it's almost like that's by design! Hard to keep people working endless slave hours without the threat of loss of life and property.
SoFedUpOfIt
Canada too man it feels like all anyone cares about is how much time you spend working. It's killing me on the inside.
DiedAndHauntingImgur
Yup, I lost my day off because of forced OT. I’m pissed, my girlfriend doesn’t understand because “it’s more money”
NaughtButOne
There's no appropriate dollar value on my time, only ones I must accept so I can continue to play this stupid fucking game.
AlienHunterXO
I feel you, I spend too much time keeping it real, and not enough time keeping it unreal, if you get me.
Vimavi
OT is not an American thing, in France I've done a lot of unpaid OT under the "cadre" status which is supposed to be for people 1/2
With a lot of responsibilities who could "manage their own schedule" but it has been exploited by companies who gave that status to 2/3
Everybody just to not have to deal with their OT and who were to young and naive to realise they were getting frakked (like me) 3/3
This status is supposed to come with a salary that reflects it but it often doesn't. This time is behind me now but I did that for 10 years.
adamlh642
I mean most of us are poor too. So there's that
Surely a coincidence!
I not sure many Americans know what POOR really is......travel
TheGodlySka
I'm not sure you know what it means either. When Americans reference being poor, they are referring (rightly so) to their financial state
I won’t waste my time further
In comparison to the rest of the country. Being unable to afford the minimum lifestyle provided by your country means being poor. That does
Not detract from the impoverished in other countries that are worse off. However, just because someone else has it worse does not mean that
It's not as work-obsessed as Japan at least.
nicelyvillainous
You mean Japan that works an average 1,738hrs/year while the US only works 1,757? https://clockify.me/working-hours
tannerhnds8888
Well fuck.
ImCommanderShepardandthisismyfavoritepostonthefrontpage
I think certain industries in Japan have "death march" hours but most dont.
upsidedownalarmclock
U.K. we work 40hrs a week, 40x52=2080. With 6 weeks off average includes that’s 1840 hours. So that 1738 figure is suspect tbh (I think)
So I feel that’s not the true number, maybe that’s contracted hours and does include unpaid overtime etc. That’s my hours and it ain’t much
it is per capita, so total work hours/everyone, not just workers. So includes students, retirees, part timers, people on disability, etc.
alman1234
Damn, didn’t know that…we really do have a toxic work climate
If you check the source you can see that both US & Japan worked a lot more in the 80’s, Japan was much higher but dropped more. Of course
The important question isn’t just hours worked, but the quality. Productivity has doubled, so twice as much gets done in the same span.
NihiDae
I get asked to work OT all the time, I turn it down often, and the response I give my boss is always "I can't buy time with money"
GondwanaCraton
And then they drop one of your shifts because they don't want to pay your overtime...
Xaldyn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4vq9wHxCxw Our country is a fucking disgrace.
lulwtf
300 for 12 hours? nani the fuck?
Lowktar
I'd say fuck you, my personal time is more valuable to me than some monetary value.
MonsterGood
I have never cared for money. I love my free time.
MisterLemons
Get that extra day of 10hr in totaling 50: +$200 to the check. Miss a day totaling 30: -$225
FukTedCruz
Dude as a salary employee currently understaffed (partly due to our great paternity benefits) i pray for OT cuz i gotta do it regardless.
FukTedCruz
Note: I LOVE our paternity benefits cuz it applies to men/women equally but it sucks being understaffed n we legit cant find a smart one
twoamartist
Be careful! Money is tempting, but your physical and mental health is more important.
astrangehop
Exactly. How much is that six hours of sleep, that day in the sun.. etc.
Hu3vosRanch3ros
I like money
BlinkSpunk
Do it, but work like your Dr. Jekyll. Create a whole new personality for OT.
OptimisticSchrodinger
I’m getting an extra $25/hr to cover night shift for a coworker who’s hospitalized for covid. Getting a new guitar with the cash!
Glasma
I haven’t worked OT in 9 months. I worked out a deal to just work Tuesday night to Saturday morning to cover Friday nights.
AerialAceAttack
So 25$ an hour?... just 10 dollars over what the minimum wage SHOULD be.
playingthedevilsadvocate
Hell no
peelmybanana
Nurse here. Major RN shortages everywhere. My hospital is offering 500 + overtime for first extra shift and 700 + overtime for second >
peelmybanana
Extra shift. I’m going to die.
TheManWhoStaresAtTurtles
I've worked overtime precisely once in my life since the business had a genuine emergency situation. Still enough to last me. If any company
TheManWhoStaresAtTurtles
needs it on a super regular basis (and can afford more), then they can go out of business for all I care.
hlink83127001
Me working with covid patients
BeerBatteredandBold
I wish I got OT, I just earn PTO for the hours I work.
tiderfish
Well the key there is to use them before they expire or you get fired/ laid off
BeerBatteredandBold
Exactly! I let 2 hrs of comp time expire last year, but I've more than made up for it working from home.
LeeHarveyOshawott
I don't normally mess with overtime but I've been out of work for a year, so six weeks of 6-10s is a helpful change of pace
PrfctDrk
Ouch, I'll be happy that my wife and I can afford life and rent with just five 8 hr days
LeeHarveyOshawott
Honestly the only thing making it worth it is knowing it won't last too long, relatively. But it still suuuuucks
gerbilfury
I get "in trouble" for getting 5 min of OT. like..sorry someone called me 5 mins before I was off and chatted my ear off...
Beefkins
Me: Oh that's cool. Bye!
shetouchedmybuttholesteve
I feel that. Double time and an extra $12 an hour incentive is hard to resist.
Monolithe503
Where the fuck
shetouchedmybuttholesteve
I design network infrastructure for most of the country. With everyone working from home the networks are failing. Backlogs=big incentives.
WimpyTheKing
Umm what company cuz I do the same and we get paid like shit here.
TheRighteousWhizbang
let's throw tired programmers at it! /s
BigDaddysMeatWagon
Many problems have been fixed by sleep deprived programmers. And caused. But oh boy, SOMETHING happens.
HCBailly
FurtiveGlancer
Perfect clip of American debauchery
IsendDickPicsIfYouAskNicely
Instead of hundos it's like $1's
TheArtOfMeh
Get ? Those ? Onedos ?
StenosisBot
My mental AND physical health or "Onedos" ?
darksniperknight
Donating plasma. $40 for sitting on my ass for an hour while they take my plasma. Twice a week. Bonuses after 6th time per month.
30SecondsToTheMoon
Do they pay more depending on weight?
darksniperknight
On average its $40. Light weight gets $35, heavy weight $45. And then their are bonuses depending on on certain antibodies present and
darksniperknight
number of times donated that month.
urzumph
Twice a week? That seems like a lot. Is that healthy? In Aus it's once every 2 weeks max.
darksniperknight
They take just plasma, return blood. Even then the place I go to has strict standards. Too high/low of temp, denied. Too low/high iron,
darksniperknight
denied. Refuse saline solution before leaving, no money and denied further.
urzumph
Yeah, the 2 weeks is for plasma in Aus, full blood donations are longer. They don't give you saline though, so maybe that's the difference
StunttheRunt
Work to live, don't live to work.
LuckyMan9
EroticZombiePants
Sadly, many people need that extra 12 hours just to live.
AnotherReplyToIgnore
Can't live if you work, can't live if you don't. Conclusion? Kill all bosses.
OutcastbyChoice
See? Video games do make us violent. And the boomers were right to be worried about it.
BatchOhhCookies
Fuckin why isn’t this upvoted more?!?
boevis
I found a job that lets me do my 3rd favorite thing and still have time for my 1st, at the cost of my 2nd.
StunttheRunt
I'll let my Mom know it's the jobs fault she's #2 :)
dabrick31
I used to be like that, but then I realized I liked being at home more than time-and-a-half
TheCroaker
I get double time on set days... Makes it hard
lorkidorggoborkbork
If I don't work 12 hours overtime every week I can't afford rent or to feed my family.
onecowboytoo
I used to be like that now I am over middle age and always in pain.
StevieTheAussie
I rather appreciate that my job refunds time-in-lieu instead of overtime. Doesn’t feel like I’m trading my free time for money.
Stuckinclass
Same specially once I saw how much they took out in taxes
flowkontrol015
Same, unfortunately the company could assign mandatory OT per the 'needs of the business' aka (we don't wanna hire more people)
WimpyTheKing
Yeah they can fuck right off with mandatory OT
fafnir77
I get $400 if I work an extra shift, it's taken my a long to to learn how to turn that down
dabrick31
$400 for one shift? Shoot man, that’s more than half my weekly check
drbloodbathmc
Sometime, money is too expensive.
Parttimedragon
The few times they've offered overtime at my job, they only offer a 6th day instead of just longer shifts. I never take it.
PamfromTheOffice
/a/0s0visF retail schedule, it's total legal and you get no extra pay or anything ?
dabrick31
For me I just end up getting a bunch of OT without being scheduled, since sometimes I get stuck on a project and end up staying after
CommanderShitFace
They offer me 7 day weeks with a few doubles sprinkled in.
MBVagabond
At one of the places I worked they had some people that did 6 12s. They were all so bitter and after a while working 5 10s it got to me too.
SavageGoH
The work culture in America is so fucking toxic.
xj4low
Then I get noted as not being a team player when I don't volunteer.
Asianchubbychasr
I work for an American company (I'm in Canada) and the conference calls in the morning are fucking cringe. Gordon gecko fetish shit
Jayhatesspidersandshit
That's why I went from working 6 days a week to 4 days now
thecastironcoder112
I worked for a company that told everyone that they only care about money and that we should feel honored to work there.....
mallic
That's at least refreshingly honest, while still being toxic.
tupactopus
it's trash, i can't even imagine the people working the 996 schedule
GroumphLePreux
What is this 996 schedule ? Nine hours of sleep, nine hours of personal time and lunch and commute, six hours of work ? /s
SirDoomTrain
Yeah yeah yeah. y’all want that time and a half tho?
gunshowzero
Especially considering how much vacation time other modern countries are given… and then there’s us.
ChemicalG
I mean unless its forced, people just want that extra money hard to refuse despite being tired
GroumphLePreux
Well, $300 for 12 hours is $25 per hour, right, right ?
junglerat
It really is. Management: let's save money on staffing by just handing out overtime!
prdgmshft
It really is. Coming out of the army into work. Lets just say the military was less stressful than this shit.
CommanderShitFace
OT is the only way I can make more than my bills. I hate it. I make 14/hr and have a roommate.
langonator
Think of it as competitive.....
MrWolfwood
get out of here corporate goon!
VolcanoHerder
We can still be competitive and not work obsessed. What if we competed over who volunteered the most hours at the shelters?
langonator
What and miss a promotion?
langonator
Give up my Guatemalan maid!
thebigbaka
Been picking up a bunch OT and that's been going on for quite a while, now my lifestyle has adjusted to require it
DarralHunter
America? Gtfoh last time I was in a factory I took every scrap of over time I could get. That shit was time and a half or more
Imademyselfsquirtle
And less productive.
squillis
Just wait till you're salary and don't get OT anymore but are expected to work even more hours
squillis
Or you work in a field like software development where they can legally not pay extra for OT
Shaodyn
https://20somethingfinance.com/american-hours-worked-productivity-vacation/ We are the most overworked developed nation on the planet.
JordanJohnson23
Yup I work 40 in a very high physical job they said work a Xtra 10 11 hour get a 500$ bonus
artichia360
Agree
ILikeRespondingWithWillSmithGifs
I e been working two jobs for so long, I forget to take a day off every other month. Also being a dad with no spouse. Fucking kills you.
Lostarchitorture
Right there with you. 2 jobs taking over weekdays and weekends. Last day off was Fourth of July. My next day off is Labor Day
NinjaGrizzlyBear
That's ironic because I'm guessing one way or another you'll still end up doing some form of labor
ILikeRespondingWithWillSmithGifs
I haven’t had a labor day in almost a decade now. March 2023 would be 1 decade without vacation, or acknowledge day off I don’t do errands.
TheArtOfMeh
Holy shit. I’m a new dad with just one job and a spouse. I feel exhausted all. the. Fucking. time. I feel for ya, man. Best of luck.
ILikeRespondingWithWillSmithGifs
Thanks man.. I hope you a great and happy life.. experience the little things for me..
wick3dc4ke
I turned down OT recently and my supervisors response was "what? You don't like money?" I have plenty and I value my time away more, thanks.
DustinDustyDust
I love my overtime. They will also let u bank that time and have extra days off.
SometimesIFeelLikeAGenius
Substitute teacher here, it is horrible. It feels worse than previous semesters.
Onegermangamer
it is not a work culture, it is a "low wages culture" that forces people to do/accept to work overtime to survive and pay the bills.
ABillionDucks
They're the same picture
DonkeyOD
It's definitely not limited to low wages though
phillini
It’s true, but when you are fearful of a huge medical bill around every corner - there is NEVER enough in savings.
Renafoxtrot
Savings? Wtf is... savings?
BubblesTheFish
At the same time you can't ruin your body so bad that you end up spending that money you were saving.
Wozzup
Gee, it's almost like that's by design! Hard to keep people working endless slave hours without the threat of loss of life and property.
SoFedUpOfIt
Canada too man it feels like all anyone cares about is how much time you spend working. It's killing me on the inside.
DiedAndHauntingImgur
Yup, I lost my day off because of forced OT. I’m pissed, my girlfriend doesn’t understand because “it’s more money”
NaughtButOne
There's no appropriate dollar value on my time, only ones I must accept so I can continue to play this stupid fucking game.
AlienHunterXO
I feel you, I spend too much time keeping it real, and not enough time keeping it unreal, if you get me.
Vimavi
OT is not an American thing, in France I've done a lot of unpaid OT under the "cadre" status which is supposed to be for people 1/2
Vimavi
With a lot of responsibilities who could "manage their own schedule" but it has been exploited by companies who gave that status to 2/3
Vimavi
Everybody just to not have to deal with their OT and who were to young and naive to realise they were getting frakked (like me) 3/3
Vimavi
This status is supposed to come with a salary that reflects it but it often doesn't. This time is behind me now but I did that for 10 years.
adamlh642
I mean most of us are poor too. So there's that
Wozzup
Surely a coincidence!
langonator
I not sure many Americans know what POOR really is......travel
TheGodlySka
I'm not sure you know what it means either. When Americans reference being poor, they are referring (rightly so) to their financial state
langonator
I won’t waste my time further
TheGodlySka
In comparison to the rest of the country. Being unable to afford the minimum lifestyle provided by your country means being poor. That does
TheGodlySka
Not detract from the impoverished in other countries that are worse off. However, just because someone else has it worse does not mean that
EroticZombiePants
It's not as work-obsessed as Japan at least.
nicelyvillainous
You mean Japan that works an average 1,738hrs/year while the US only works 1,757? https://clockify.me/working-hours
tannerhnds8888
Well fuck.
ImCommanderShepardandthisismyfavoritepostonthefrontpage
I think certain industries in Japan have "death march" hours but most dont.
upsidedownalarmclock
U.K. we work 40hrs a week, 40x52=2080. With 6 weeks off average includes that’s 1840 hours. So that 1738 figure is suspect tbh (I think)
upsidedownalarmclock
So I feel that’s not the true number, maybe that’s contracted hours and does include unpaid overtime etc. That’s my hours and it ain’t much
nicelyvillainous
it is per capita, so total work hours/everyone, not just workers. So includes students, retirees, part timers, people on disability, etc.
alman1234
Damn, didn’t know that…we really do have a toxic work climate
nicelyvillainous
If you check the source you can see that both US & Japan worked a lot more in the 80’s, Japan was much higher but dropped more. Of course
nicelyvillainous
The important question isn’t just hours worked, but the quality. Productivity has doubled, so twice as much gets done in the same span.