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New post Work Smarter, Not Harder
Apr 17, 2018 6:38 AM
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FletchINKy
Don't they just normally use wheels?
NlessWonder
Waste of helium.
szepasszony
Unless you are your own boss, working smarter will just mean getting more work.
Lahoura
The drama in the farming industry heats up in the comment section
TheBlackVan
99 red balloons, go by!
Attacker732
I've seen someone do something similar for watering their little plot, just with a bunch of PVC pipe & duct tape instead.
Flanker305
Imagine the middle balloon to pop. Byebye good plan - hello hard work anyway!
AzgarOgly
Imagine a strong gust of wind. All that contraption together with hipsters operating it goes straight to Oz.
Oprean
in the land of cheap helium
AzgarOgly
only in land of _free_ helium and cheap labor
calimani77
or..or...use fing drones...
fakepointgenerator
Heavy lift drones can be crazy expensive
AIComments
Naw, I'll stick with the old fashion ways of my people https://imgur.com/3fHOuYZ
MaxximumB
How much did all that helium cost? And aren't you worried about Pennywise?
Willowknowsall
No pivot available?
barneymeanswell
look at me...spray all these chemicals...no mask..no problem...its just cancer.
MisterLemons
Calling BS. between wind and the force of spraying water, this would never work. And crap quality, how convenient...
finetoroastasimamarshmallow
everypostepic
Using pesticides is smarter? hmm.
ForgivingCat
Is that pesticides?
ChuckKarma
Alphabet project loon not going so well, finding new applications.
icouldgetarrestedforthis
And no mask! Smart or not?
KiwiAlex
Depends what they are spraying, not sure what they are growing but orchards here often spray copper and other benign sprays too.
ThaEnder
Is the copper to deter snails?
KiwiAlex
Yeah it beats the crap out of the black ones.
Reddiance1
Just get someone else at the other end holding up the hose. No balloons required.
AzgarOgly
Unfortunately, physics won't allow that.
miscellaneouseye
Breathe deeply my friend, Roundup will soon release you from this mortal coil.
tooomanystevesgotbanned
They usually just do this with long booms and narrow wheels on long poles.
JuicyMuIIet
Correct. They're called Center Pivot irrigation. They've made my Dad a very happy man.
TheNonInsestuousJaime
No matter what you tell them, some people just feel obliged to reinvent the wheel...
Notracistgrandpa
Especially if you tell them they can't afford a wheel
Muttons1337
Seems like the more obvious answer to me.
lurkmoarjono
It's so cool to watch those things crawl across the fields.
snarley
brought to you from MONSANTO the co. destroying the bees that pollinate the plants they are spraying.
Hiboredimdad
99 Red Balloons https://g.co/kgs/4Mgaqw
PuppyLord
There is only one true version to rule them all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La4Dcd1aUcE
kalenen
I love the taste of chemicals in the morning
Denamic
Yea, like water
boopsboop2
Everything is chemicals
JanitorsApprentice
Be careful of dihydrogen monoxide
Thatpopcornkernalstuckinyourgums
Work smarter, but failed to wear a respirator and now has lung cancer.
Rkfinecake
Migrant workers = expendable labor. Solved.
InstructionsUnclearSendHelp
That's dark but you're right. I suppose that evens out to a +1?
sillyoldbear
Just not on windy days..
ax2usn
Circa 1972, inflatable kites were a thing. I don’t recommend ‘em ...for reasons.
DwightYouIdiot
Antagonistal
Is that 21 savage
dagg3r
Well im guessing there is a person at the other end, so i dont see why not. But nothing crazy obviously
ftwcode
Stand up wind from the balloons
StrikerHeX
You wouldn't want to spray on a windy day anyway, as it would go all over the place hitting plants you don't want it to
AzgarOgly
Normal crop sprayers release the substance like a 1" over the plants or lower. If it is not hurricane, it won't go anywhere. //
AzgarOgly
That balloon contraption requites 0 wind. Which may be unavailable through all the spraying time. Plants and insects won't wait.
Antities
I believe you can't do it normally on windy days either
AnonOmis1000
SuperTuna
Now breathe all that in
Boatsntoes
That is not organic.
AzgarOgly
?
Boatsntoes
Pesticides
AzgarOgly
And?
ocel0t
Look up how much helium costs and consider that it won't stay in the balloons. Now this is expensive and pointless
supergreenpasta
Quick, someone warn the farmers they need to consider the cost of what they're already using!
poorwhitetrash
Just like boobs with no nipples.
imgurodon
BigDickLaCroix
Hydrogen can be coaxed out of water easily.
taztattoo
Actually, you can treat latex balloons so the helium doesn't escape as quickly.
Gantzz321
cheaper then buying a tractor, an then the sprayer equipment to haul behind it, an the upkeep of all this gear.
LordDanglyBalls
Consider crop loss from tire marks and the cost of a conventional sprayer, and this is likely much cheaper.
AzgarOgly
There are tracks on a field anyway. Experienced farmer would drive the same tracks every time. There is no significant loss.
Chriswagon1
But by getting rid of tracks, more space for plants
AzgarOgly
How are you supposed to plant the seeds? Flying saucer?
beergolem
A bigger issue is probably that helium is getting scarce, and we quite need it.
NeverCast
Helium is still cost locked, it's very very cheap considering. Certainly cheaper than irrigation equipment.
AzgarOgly
See the calculation in other comment. Helium for this thing is no less than $1000 per one use. Sprayer is like $30k and lasts for decades.
fakepointgenerator
I did and its not unreasonably expensive vs the time/labor saved. Guess all the people that upvoted didn't take your advice to google it.
Muttons1337
There are rigs you can buy or build your own where it uses the power of a stick to hold the pipe and a wheel to move the pipe
fakepointgenerator
Maybe there are things booking the path of the wheel or other issues with their setup. Although this does seem like it would have issues(1)
fakepointgenerator
With wind. (2)
AzgarOgly
Why do you think that contraption would save any labor? Needs multiple hipsters to prepare, operate and dismantle. Tractor is operated by 1.
fakepointgenerator
Large-scale farming is now hipster?? Lol maybe you should look up words before you use them.
AzgarOgly
Why would you think it is large scale farming? I highly doubt any industrial farm would fiddle with balloons. It is just not fitting //
AzgarOgly
process and logistics. It is quite hard to say something by this video, but general considerations tell there is much more people than //
fakepointgenerator
Because of the large fields in the background that look exactly like the ones they are working on???
mildlyinsulting
probably it's filled with hydrogen. It's cheaper. (and waaay more dangerous, but who cares)
echonite
Lets make a dirigible with it! what could go wrong?
eotty
It is only more dangerous once
Strangedays2024
When farming that would be considered acceptable risk.
usrnametaken
Bonus when you're done, end it with a bang :)
bread1
ever heard of the song "Danger zone", it exists for a reason, for situations you described.
carlluis
Nize426
I dunno man for what I've seen it adds more excitement.
MrGlitchyypants
Go big or go home
OddOod
It's really not that dangerous.
mildlyinsulting
It is when compared to helium, but tbh I'd go with hydrogen as well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
DefundIsraelTheGenocidalNation
Yes but there is plenty of water to put it out.
groxx
That's a strange way to spell "fun"
randomitguy
Gotta light?
NeoAcario
Cheaper? Hydrogen is basically free. Just need water and a little bit of electricity.
dschuma
Electrolysis!
byohzzrd
And just a pinch of salt to enhance the smell...
Laaub
Mmmmm Syria is that you?
Laaub
Electricity can be quite expensive depending on where you live.
mildlyinsulting
So maybe NaOH with some Aluminium and water?
OddOod
Home built hyrdrogen genrator and capture device is under a grand
breadedfishstrip
On a farm, I'd reckon biogas or just burning waste green material provides more than enough for electrolysis
RofloIogist
Drones can target specific plants, mass spraying needs to stop when there are solutions available imo
RHFiesling
who the fuck dved u 4 that?
fakepointgenerator
If this is a cost issue a drone might not be the best idea.
MaxieMooo
Whats wrong with mass spraying
breathelikeasquidforgreatjustice
Fertilizers and pesticides are bad for us, bees, oceans, almost all other living things. Targeted spraying means less harmful chemicals.
MaxieMooo
Ah shit I thought they were just watering the plants :)
RabidDingo
You're wife then has you clean up the mess.
Wrathrunner
have you seen the density of this crop? the drone would have to have pin point precision to save even a drop of fertiliser
RofloIogist
They do have pinpoint precision. Each plant is also numbered and fertilizer and pesticide are applied as needed to individual plants.
WilwoWaggins
You are thinking thin membranous latex balloons. Maybe these don't leak.
AzgarOgly
Helium leaks even through steel flasks, though slowly. And I would like to see farmer storing that balloons and transporting them //
AzgarOgly
between the fields and barn like 5 times a year. LOL. Until one good day wind blows and he flies away to damn Oz with all this shit.
thoushaltnotpass
Helium is a very very small atom and it's not binding with anything. It's very hard to stop it from leaking.
WilwoWaggins
Yes, but I think most people use the common latex balloon as their frame of reference. We use it for pressure testing our products.
WilwoWaggins
It can be contained much better that this sounds. And hydrogen is even smaller.
thoushaltnotpass
My son received an helium balloon, that seems to be aluminum with a plastic coating. After a week half of the helium is gone already.
WilwoWaggins
Mylar?
ZimGenzko
Probably still cheaper than paying someone to do it without.
AzgarOgly
Usually they just use a tractor with a sprinklers installed.
Skizzlesnap
They make the same device but it’s on wheels. This is retarded.
gerf
Wheels in a wet paddy get stjck and trample plants.
Skizzlesnap
Then you’re planting your rows to close together.
ZimGenzko
That’s rice and it’s under water anyway so wheels are a big no no
gerf
Wheat and rice have very vertical stalks and smaller leaves, so they have to be planted closer together. 30 inch row wheat would suck.
shhep
Whole world uses either standalone wheeled thingies or just mounts pipes on a tractor, but of course someone will claim this retardation is
shhep
100% justified and makes sense.
Exoph
Yep, pretty much
AzgarOgly
Hipsters.
Denamic
Relative to other gases, helium is expensive. But just that much compared to how much you can cut down on man-hours? Definitely worth it.
AzgarOgly
"Definitely worth it." can you prove it with calculation?
Denamic
Do you actually believe you're worth that effort?
AzgarOgly
Other people being less lazy than you calculated that 10 balloons of 7' size would need $1k-$1.5k of helium. Duster costs like $30k //
AzgarOgly
and is used like 5 times a year. So just helium would pay the duster (which lasts for 20 years easily) in 4 years. Balloons and labor //
TheBlueMuppet
Do you believe in life after love?
RklBombs
LOL
AzgarOgly
Well, you make a statement. I ask for proof. No proof? So be it.
Denamic
Uh, yeah. I'm not speaking if front of the fucking senate here. I'm just browsing with one hand in my pants.
rocketturttle
If you already have the tank to refill/exchange, that's about $200 worth of helium (300ft^2). massively worth it.
rocketturttle
by comparison: https://www.wyliesprayers.com/v/page-detail/Wylie-Spray-Wyng-Row-Crop-1000-Fall-Special/3s/
rocketturttle
that is the low end, btw
AzgarOgly
300ft**3 is roughly two balloons of 7" diameter with 0 overpressure. I see more than 10 balloons here. So make it 5*300*1.2. $1200, is it?
AzgarOgly
20 uses would make $25k for that duster trailer. Duster is used like 5 times a year. 4 years worth of helium would pay a duster. //
philcollinsdrumbreakdown
Now calculate the cost of using hydrogen
AzgarOgly
That spraying rig would work for 15-20 years if not more. And it takes one man to handle it. That balloon rig would take multiple workers //
AzgarOgly
to prepare and handle. Gas is not reusable, balloons ain't cheap and might last several uses. The thing is not transportable, if fields //