I moved a friend into a third-story walk-up with no central staircase and solid wood furniture. Idk how even that was legal (it may not have been), it was brutal
The show lost me when the mechanic character stands in neck deep water she’s just sprayed at a red hot piece of metal and isn’t scalded at all… also this is right after she uses a hand held angle grinder to fix a 45 degree bend in a turbine 😆 I get that it’s “soft” sci-fi but it’s just soap opera comedy, lol. The episode isn’t tense at all, it’s just absurd.
Not really. The TV show is constantly asking questions and asking you to be invested I'm enjoying it overall, but this show has a ton of major issues. Pacing for one. Tension that is silly. Oh sure, this character that is pivotal to all sorts of shit is just going to drown. Oh they are doing it again in another episode? Wtf?
It’s gotta be a better story than some random train chugging around the globe in an ice age. Who maintains the tracks? I understand it’s social commentary but the premise is truly stupid.
The most unrealistic part for me was people not getting busted left and right over illegal pulley systems. You just know that would be an almost daily occurrence. We had people build a whole ass illegal apartment in a mall here. There would definitely be an illegal dumbwaiter or two in the silo.
The silo is awfully totalitarian, doing something forbidden by the pact in plain view (the central shaft) would probably get you disappeared by judicial.
My IMMEDIATE thought as my understanding developed in the first couple episodes was, the stairs are a stroke of genius in design. Knowing human behavior and the tendency towards sloth and lethargy, particularly when in confinement, with no freedom to roam, and wondrous locations to do it in. This was manually enforced exercise for every living soul in there, whether they wanted it or not, with the added bonus of no "enforced workout" factor, which is bound to be unpopular.
Stairs are good for exercise, though. I'd take the stairs over the elevator 98% of time (I'd save that 2% for when it's really inconvenient or when I'm extremely tired)
So that 200 people don’t live there year round, a lot of them are snowbirds that only come back for the spring-early fall seasons. And since this was originally posted a lot of people have moved out and the town has expanded a bit.
Actually not too bad. Just an issue with getting enough sun light, and careful about staying indoors. There is a whole thing about sticking in only circulated air, breathing in dust and other usual contaminants for long periods of time can lead to some medical problems.
Just read the books by Hugh Howey instead they are titled Wool, Shift and Dust. The best part is they have already been written so you don't have to wait.
What bothers me about the show is the lack of showing us any livestock! Where are the animals they would need to survive? There would NEED to be substantial amount of cows, pigs, sheep, chickens, or goats for all those humans to survive! Our bodies need that protein that is most easily provided by meat. And, I find it hard to believe a single mayor and small sheriff office of like 10 can properly monitor 10k people every day.
Have you never been to a small town? One with 10k people usually only has less than a dozen officers, and this is with them being all spread out. In a dense layout with strict social controls, like being in an post-apocalyptic silo, would be even less manpower.
And the thing about meat is it really isn't needed. There are lots of other options. And in a confined space, the idea of supporting a cow that requires 10X the amount of feed to produce only a few calories isn't the "easiest" option.
From what little I remember that was one of the banned technologies set in the founding rules, all set up in advance to control everything in the silo.
Days? It’s 144 flights, that’s a lot, but it shouldn’t take days to cover that, especially going down.
Even if you spend a full 5 minutes on each flight, you’re still only looking at like 12 hours to traverse the entire length. Going down, it should take less than half that.
Better than Snowpiercer, in my opinion. They don’t really have different wealth classes in Silo—everybody is expected to have a job except kids don’t usually work. But, humans did mess up Earth, they are contained in a limited space, and the masses are being lied to about many things by a select person in charge of secrets so they are similar in those aspects
I got to say the sensor cleaning crew helmets were a nice touch (I honestly can't remember what they called them) . Especially how relatively low tech the rest of the place is.
It did definitely gloss over a lot of how they got around and managed to stay self contained. And by all accounts the TV series rsil network seems far more comprehensive than the one in the movie
yeah, making it more vulnerable. Silo is technically just far more superior. No insulation issues, far less technical issues etc.. But i hated the Silo episode 3 or 4 when they had to stop the turbine. They were changing the turbine blade, and it started to rotate without casing or steam... etc. like yeah, sure.
In the books, it was a deliberate design choice to control the population and prevent uprisings by limiting communication and restricting movement between different levels of the silo. People would be too caught up in the drudgery of daily life to care about anything else, and it worked for 99% of them
I vaguely remember a sim city dystopia that was designed like this. People were purposefully given such long commutes that they had no time to do anything but go to work, work, go home and then it would be time to go to work again or something like that.
I was quite tempted to just build walls around one sim and watch how it dies prob hunger idk I built it a door instead lol. The moment was there though
Saw something similar but just with the sims. Older version but, person built a hedge maze that took so long to traverse that by the time the sim got home through it, it was time to leave again
Are they predicting the future!? Is this going to be what will happen in 2100? Let's use this text as a direct and literal translation for what we should allow to happen!/s
SirRichfield
IIRC, at least in the series, they DO complain every now and then, especially because it takes a lot of time to travel. All part of the plan
circlebreaker
TheGriffin
So many stairs
bendaresall
Because he walked all over her? Because he wasn't on her level? Because he didn't stick the landing?
Kiotetravels
Why are you the only person asking the important questions!? What's the punchline to the joke!
ilovebigmutts
Reminds me of the wall people in Solar Opposites.
andwings2go
That show within a show is better than Silo 😂
Gargwill
So it's basically a small Mega-city one city block?
DongleDingler
I moved a friend into a third-story walk-up with no central staircase and solid wood furniture. Idk how even that was legal (it may not have been), it was brutal
TheRancher
The show lost me when the mechanic character stands in neck deep water she’s just sprayed at a red hot piece of metal and isn’t scalded at all… also this is right after she uses a hand held angle grinder to fix a 45 degree bend in a turbine 😆 I get that it’s “soft” sci-fi but it’s just soap opera comedy, lol. The episode isn’t tense at all, it’s just absurd.
greatbam
You're thinking too hard about a TV show. :)
Tumescentpie
Not really. The TV show is constantly asking questions and asking you to be invested
I'm enjoying it overall, but this show has a ton of major issues. Pacing for one. Tension that is silly. Oh sure, this character that is pivotal to all sorts of shit is just going to drown. Oh they are doing it again in another episode? Wtf?
ThatMangoAteMyBabyy
It’s gotta be a better story than some random train chugging around the globe in an ice age. Who maintains the tracks? I understand it’s social commentary but the premise is truly stupid.
barstr7
The most unrealistic part for me was people not getting busted left and right over illegal pulley systems. You just know that would be an almost daily occurrence. We had people build a whole ass illegal apartment in a mall here. There would definitely be an illegal dumbwaiter or two in the silo.
Kommadore
The silo is awfully totalitarian, doing something forbidden by the pact in plain view (the central shaft) would probably get you disappeared by judicial.
MendoncycleSmith
My IMMEDIATE thought as my understanding developed in the first couple episodes was, the stairs are a stroke of genius in design. Knowing human behavior and the tendency towards sloth and lethargy, particularly when in confinement, with no freedom to roam, and wondrous locations to do it in. This was manually enforced exercise for every living soul in there, whether they wanted it or not, with the added bonus of no "enforced workout" factor, which is bound to be unpopular.
Eatabaggadix
On the bright side,obesity,heart disease 'n shit like would be far less of a problem.
Subtilico
Selection pressure.
ScienceIsNotALiberalConspiracy
There is no bright side from what I can tell; the sun is outside the silo.
Eatabaggadix
Maybe.
arewenotkingsandqueenstogether
It had such a great start, now it's really dragging
Tumescentpie
Season 1 was full of dragging. It gives jj Abrams mystery box.
youreathing
The last episode actually had some nice plot points/twists. Looking forward to the rest of the season.
algoritham
Nick Valentine: "More bloody stairs. Who built this damn vault, a fitness instructor?"
MadHatter69
Stairs are good for exercise, though. I'd take the stairs over the elevator 98% of time (I'd save that 2% for when it's really inconvenient or when I'm extremely tired)
algoritham
Oh I agree, I take the stairs when I can. My 75 year old mum, not so much.
levelfivedetentionblockaa23
WhattaMattahYou
JackHL01
i mean, the building and the streets were already broken, Hulk could have just jumped!
MrStealYourGiF
I wish I had a Whittier comment, but reminds me of..
Lurch1911
So that 200 people don’t live there year round, a lot of them are snowbirds that only come back for the spring-early fall seasons. And since this was originally posted a lot of people have moved out and the town has expanded a bit.
MaximumHamster
I see your Whittier and raise you the wall of Fermont (in Quebec).
90sWereGold
Best fish and chips I’ve ever had was in Whittier
UpwardFacingKnight
This comment was Whitty enough.
TonyBalogna
That's just about enough...from both of you.
malakim
Arcology. That or mini-kowloon
keystotheairlock
Tomato, tomAto.
Subtilico
Sounds like a good setup for a Mars-experiment. Only needs a 20-40 min. delay in communication with the outside world.
zoeytg
Actually not too bad. Just an issue with getting enough sun light, and careful about staying indoors. There is a whole thing about sticking in only circulated air, breathing in dust and other usual contaminants for long periods of time can lead to some medical problems.
wafflesmgee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH-TlC0111Q - a guy got to see some of Whittier, a lovely video
freezingpilot
This sounds amazing to me.
DemSumBigAssRidges
First question: What's the internet like?
mckjm2
Horrible. That's speaking as a person who lived in Alaska for 10 years.
walpurgis8199
Just read the books by Hugh Howey instead they are titled Wool, Shift and Dust. The best part is they have already been written so you don't have to wait.
minizeries
I remember reading Wool (just the novella)! I totally forgot there was more.
nahbien
Read the books years ago, loved them. The show has me rereading them again now.
ColleenMarie
WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE MULTI-TOOL?!?!?!
FoamingToad
Bought the trilogy for my partner a couple of weeks back. Now waiting for them to start it as I quite fancy reading them myself.
electronicbovine
Oh shit, I was told to read Wool years ago and never did/forgot about it
Kyrorayne
It was such a great series. I have it on Kindle and audible. I'll have the physical books this year too.
meganical
What bothers me about the show is the lack of showing us any livestock! Where are the animals they would need to survive? There would NEED to be substantial amount of cows, pigs, sheep, chickens, or goats for all those humans to survive! Our bodies need that protein that is most easily provided by meat. And, I find it hard to believe a single mayor and small sheriff office of like 10 can properly monitor 10k people every day.
Babomonkey
They have pigs and chicken at least. Mayor likes eggs and bacon for breakfast.
freshthrowaway1138
Have you never been to a small town? One with 10k people usually only has less than a dozen officers, and this is with them being all spread out. In a dense layout with strict social controls, like being in an post-apocalyptic silo, would be even less manpower.
And the thing about meat is it really isn't needed. There are lots of other options. And in a confined space, the idea of supporting a cow that requires 10X the amount of feed to produce only a few calories isn't the "easiest" option.
hellvis
They have coffee. Where the fuck are they growing coffee indoors?
SirRichfield
There are mentions of levels with farms and livestock, that they're not shown might be due to budget. The sheriff is not there to monitor!
SirRichfield
Admin monitors the people and that is only manageable because they also keep them busy and if needed distracted.
DrFlukeHawkins
And the fact no one...has made any sort of elevator system...is mind numbing.
That's day one shit when I see those stairs.
1williamsg
From what little I remember that was one of the banned technologies set in the founding rules, all set up in advance to control everything in the silo.
andwings2go
Don’t know if plothole, goof or foreshadowing but people went from the top floor to engineering in just a few minutes at the end of the first season.
IMustGrowUpReally
Even quicker if they 'jumped'.
Whatwhatsomethingbutt
I don't recall that. I do recall them spending at least a couple days climbing and descending stairs.
zFUBARz
A thing that takes days in the first book.
BeardicPerformance
Days? It’s 144 flights, that’s a lot, but it shouldn’t take days to cover that, especially going down.
Even if you spend a full 5 minutes on each flight, you’re still only looking at like 12 hours to traverse the entire length. Going down, it should take less than half that.
andwings2go
They can travel faster at night, during the day there is “traffic “
EndlingGer
So… „snowpiercer“ but vertical?
oldvydeo
"Hellevator (The Caged Fools)"?
EverNotRelevant
Nah, pretty different premise
meganical
Better than Snowpiercer, in my opinion. They don’t really have different wealth classes in Silo—everybody is expected to have a job except kids don’t usually work. But, humans did mess up Earth, they are contained in a limited space, and the masses are being lied to about many things by a select person in charge of secrets so they are similar in those aspects
darthinebriated
I got to say the sensor cleaning crew helmets were a nice touch (I honestly can't remember what they called them) . Especially how relatively low tech the rest of the place is.
zFUBARz
I mean there are definitely society classes though, At least in the first book/seasonish (Since it doesn't line up exactly)
SergeyPrkl
I'm too much into hard scifi, and that's why i don't like snowpiercer.
gordy77
It did definitely gloss over a lot of how they got around and managed to stay self contained. And by all accounts the TV series rsil network seems far more comprehensive than the one in the movie
SergeyPrkl
yeah, making it more vulnerable. Silo is technically just far more superior. No insulation issues, far less technical issues etc.. But i hated the Silo episode 3 or 4 when they had to stop the turbine. They were changing the turbine blade, and it started to rotate without casing or steam... etc. like yeah, sure.
EccentricNut
In the books, it was a deliberate design choice to control the population and prevent uprisings by limiting communication and restricting movement between different levels of the silo. People would be too caught up in the drudgery of daily life to care about anything else, and it worked for 99% of them
Banzai51
Hollywood writers: You fools! We know better than the authors!
suppafly
That's explained pretty clearly in the show too, just not sure people pay attention when they watch stuff anymore.
iridescentrae
UCSD Price Center was designed that way for that reason
iridescentrae
To prevent uprisings or whatever, I think during the 60s
gluttonygreedpridewrathslothlustenvy
What's a book?
ChesterSnapdragonMcFistycuffs
Hugh Howey trilogy, wool, dust, shift.
gluttonygreedpridewrathslothlustenvy
I remember these scene from The Karate Kid...
EccentricNut
Forbidden knowledge, inscribed on remnants of a dead tree, that can cause vivid hallucinations.
AllCanadianRejects
I vaguely remember a sim city dystopia that was designed like this. People were purposefully given such long commutes that they had no time to do anything but go to work, work, go home and then it would be time to go to work again or something like that.
aurifex
I was quite tempted to just build walls around one sim and watch how it dies prob hunger idk I built it a door instead lol. The moment was there though
Ristari
Saw something similar but just with the sims. Older version but, person built a hedge maze that took so long to traverse that by the time the sim got home through it, it was time to leave again
Kotarisu
MrSyth
And we wonder why god torments us
Kotarisu
As the quote goes: “We are the playthings of the gods”
DrFlukeHawkins
Hey it's a metaphor for real life!
SerialChickenLover
Why do you think they’re so mad that we’re so happy that healthcare asshole got murdered?
SignedEpsteinsMother
...FUCK!
DontKnowTheSource
Are they predicting the future!? Is this going to be what will happen in 2100? Let's use this text as a direct and literal translation for what we should allow to happen!/s
OkButWhyWereTheyFilming
It's not even a metaphor. It's an actual tactic employed by authoritarians.
Murrdogg
OkButWhyWereTheyFilming
And capitalists
casualgenderquestion2718
So authoritarians who don’t want to admit it
OkButWhyWereTheyFilming
+1 to you comrade
GoldenKirito11
What’s the difference! /s
leadinurface
Theyrethesamepicture.jpg
OkButWhyWereTheyFilming
+1 to you comrade