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this is gonna trigger the flat-earthers..
They now offer rides for anyone brave enough:
http://fly-mig29.com/programms.html
(The World Altitude Record is held by Alexandr Fedotov in a MiG-25 Foxbat, the E-266M. He climbed to 37,650m (123,520 ft) on August 31st, 1977.)
supergay2017
Seee!!! It's flat!! Right there!! It's like flying over a plate or something...
GodSiege
echonite
Nice use of fish-eye lenses to make the horizon look curved.
TakeItEasyPolicy
There r no real flat earthers I am sure. They know it's false but just for fun they keep this charade of ignorance
WolfMech
Well... There goes my "Earth is flat" theory.
Weallliveinayellowsubmarine1
Bombpier
The dumbest cheeto of them all
Superchief86
We should send flat earthers into space. Not to show them the Earth isn't flat. Just to get rid of the idiots.
lurkmoarjono
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG!!!!! SPPPPPAAAAAAACEE!!! YEEEEEEHHHHAAAAA!
LewdSomnambulist
Most of these records are ballistic lofts and pilots shut down engines around 60k ft. Not so much flying as falling with style.
GentryMarine
Hard to keep those engines alive with little oxygen
thammm
You can do it too for the low low cost of $17,500 freedom bucks
Ohhhlookaunicorneatingasamurai
"Just look at that disc." - Flat Earthers
atarujun
What limits the height, air too thin for lift, or oxygen for combustion, or just run out of fuel.
Frederf
Engine power. More AOA for lift adds drag.
macthelost
Oxygen. Lift is meaningless if you have no thrust.
RD2C
I'm guessing they supply brown pants as standard for the passengers?
madcatii
Yeah they spray you with skunk odor a little too.
damnyuoautocorrect
Do flat earthers just think these pics are faked? What an existence!
KnucleheadFlow
They say it's the lenses. In this case they're right the curvature we're seeing is an artifact. Have to get into orbit to see it that curved
macthelost
That first one you wouldn’t see till half way to the damn moon
macthelost
That record is only because the max height of the U2 is still classified though. So grain of salt.
clem2270
that's crazy. wonder how long it took to get up there?
icantbelieveijoined
Its travelling at almost twice the speed of sound, so not long at all.
Ragnarsdad
That "curve" is just the edge of the disc. Shame you can't see the turtle underneath
Germhole
Fake, everyone knows the Earth is flat
Frederf
I'm a flat Earther. I don't think it is flat currently but I'm advocating.
SabatonXX
Turtles, all the way down
GunganExterminator
Don’t forget about the elephants
ilovewafflesshapedliketexas
don't worry, i am sure it was a fish eye lens on that camera
CravenSouls
False. The sun is flat. Not the earth.
JimStarluck
Nah man, get with the times. It's teacup-shaped.
muscletank
BUY MY BOOK!
Bergeldergle
Your book is flat, too
4shizzlemynizzle
cheesestuffedmonkey
Has anyone requested the prices? I'm curious how much those flights are.
DeathPro
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meerple
3.5
auserwithaname
I'm curious too
Lordhartley
Tree fiddy
IronRod
They've been offering them for a while now, I remember reading about them in the late 90's. The trip to the edge of space was pretty pricey.
HeyManLookAtMeRockingOutIAmOnTheRadio
Priceee?
Drackian
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MrSpankySDMF
17,500 Euro http://www.migflug.com/jetflights/how-much-does-a-mig-29-flight-cost.html
macthelost
Holy shit. Four flights and they pay for the jet.
Warpman
Did anyone manage to find out the price?
MrSpankySDMF
17,500 Euro http://www.migflug.com/jetflights/how-much-does-a-mig-29-flight-cost.html
aerokixstitch
Yeah, I'm sitting here trying to figure out how to win the lottery
OpenMindOpenMouth
Fisheye lenses make everything look round. Fuck you all the earth is a pyramid.
Wilth
Are you insane? It is very evidently a squircle
hispanicyankee
Yeah! Everyone knows pyramids don't exist
OpenMindOpenMouth
Ow my brain hurts
SwagicalYololord
Actually it’s a squiranglogram.
Neogreenyew
Fuckin sucks if you have tp eject. XD
Frederf
Full pressure suit required over 17km. Pretty much what that balloon jumper was wearing.
auserwithaname
Nah, you just get hypoxic, then euphoric, then you die. A bit chilly too. And the pressure would probably blow your ear drums.
macthelost
Nah, you get cannedO2 and you would break the sound barrier coming down, so you wouldn’t be in the hypoxia zone long. You’ll live.
Shreksleftnut
Pretty sure world altitude record would be Armstrong on the moon. Just saying.
mikeatike
Apollo 13 was further away when the slingshotted around the moon.
CheeseIsNaturesFudge
And surely if we talk about terrestrial aircraft the sr71, u2, and x15 would top this? Even if we limit to jets sr71 and u2 would win?
macthelost
Those planes max altitudes are still classified hence no record. The U2 flies higher than anything that doesn’t use rockets, but classified
macthelost
The pilot of a U2 literally has to wear a fucking space suit.
FnordGallop
Both of those regularly operated at 80-90k ft, unclear how high they went.
Phischstaebchen
So uh.... how does the engine keep working without air? I'm sure at that altitude the compression-stages has a VERY hard time to find air...
Frederf
~5% oxygen. It's low but not that bad. Intake ram adds a lot.
macthelost
Some get around this by having an engine 50x stronger than it needs to fly, like a U-2. So that even if it has almost no air still works
macthelost
They do. Hence the height limit
ilovewafflesshapedliketexas
almost 24 miles down is a loooooooong time before impact to think about your bad decisions
mop82
Getting to see a view like that is the exact opposite of a bad decision.
mmcg5
Just aim for a bush or cart of hay, you'd be fine!
AzgarOgly
You mean flying above 13 mile hole in the ground?
macthelost
This is counterintuitive. The higher you jump from the faster you reach the ground when jumping at high altitudes. 125k jump takes about >
macthelost
4 min, 100k jump takes about 4.5 min. Reason is at higher altitudes you build up more speed because terminal velocity is faster up higher
hispanicyankee
Wouldn't you slow down as you get Lowe and encounter more resistance though? That is- wouldn't the terminal velocity change as you fall, so
hispanicyankee
that the increased height would still take longer? Or am I making a silly mistake?
Muttttss
Where did you get 24 miles from?
Howtogrowwood
Not if u pass out first. I remember that guy who jumped from a weather balloon passed out
BurntOnMustafar
Felix!
CyriousLordofDerp
Was the other dude before him. Baumgartner was in a pressure suit during his supersonic drop and didn't pass out.
StUriah
~11-12 miles, still plenty of time though!
ilovewafflesshapedliketexas
StUriah
Yeah? And that has what to do with the ~59k ft @OP is at? World record isn't what this is taking about
ilovewafflesshapedliketexas
for the record
RdizzyC
The plane in the picture is flying at 59k feet, not 123k feet.
VonKripplespac
Isn't it only a 6 minute freefall?
MichaelBerry10
Hey vsause, Michael here. What is down?
Te0PrO
Cahow
‘Only’ 6 minuted is still a long time to be falling to your death!!
Strostkovy
Ugh, tell me about it. I still have like another three minutes. Hurry up, gravity.
VirtualNaut
He ded... it's been 18 minutes since @Strostkovy posted their comment.
auserwithaname
May he rest in pieces. Likely in the ocean
PenisOfDeath
Fall faster
GunganExterminator
Username is partially semi-accurateish
Zreen
I played this mission in Ace Combat 5: The Unsung War where you climb to avoid a ballistic cluster missile.
SwagicalYololord
Ace combat 4, 5, and 0 were the absolute best. I hope 7 turns out as good of a game.
Rox2
Razgriz 4 lyfe
anunadulteratedmadman
Game is so good. Never thought a rockets n planez game would give me feels.
LupusLilium
I recently wanted to play the good Ace games, not that Assault Horizon, but others. Turns out none of them have suitable PC versions.
LupusLilium
And I can't really find suitable Ace game replacements on the PC. I need something that pulls me in, not just being some random pilot.
Zreen
I might try playing it on an emulator but my machine isn't suitable for emulation higher than ps1. Could get nice versions there.
LupusLilium
Could never get those things to work. Besides the portable console emulators.
Zreen
The PS2 one was hardest, imo, I had to relearn how to use homebrew license extraction from my ps2 by using exploits.
Greyeyes1973
Blows my mind a design that old can go that high. But they did build them to fly, not look pretty
IlikeblueberrieswithcreamandpancakesSomechocolateaswell
Im not triggered the least this bogus crap is proof that cameras lie. The lense is just making it look round.
hitthatbomb
*AND* look pretty
EF5Cyniclone
The MiG-29? I always thought it was kind of a bucket. It's no Su-27 or F-16.
Drewscifer
Dude this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_X-1 broke the sound barrier. I mean LOOK AT THE WINGS....
TacoFox
The X-1 suffered from super sonic compression at the leading edges almost kill Yeager.
PopeyeTheSailor
As an American, I still think it is a masterpiece of an aircraft, and is very high on my list of favorites.
minipancho94
usually technology is not the limiting factor, but cost. after all, if you throw enough money at it, someone will just develop the tech.
AzgarOgly
Some ideas just run against fundamental physical limitations.
MarvinBrando
And we've somehow not developed something that could continue to the level of the space station...hmmm.
AzgarOgly
Physics won't favor that.
dweezy23
Is this like a Ken M comment or something?
Dogmoo
That you know of. The sr-71 was a secret at one point too.
redbagelpuppies
Their design is really interesting, the Soviets relied on more hand calculations rather than computer simulations.
bamcockseverywhere
Same story in the USA. Computation was around, but most of the calculus was done by hand.
AzgarOgly
There was no computer available to run a practical simulation that time. They started to use advanced math models only in late 1980s //
AzgarOgly
when 286 became available for the MiG bureau.
CaptGunpowder
I've always thought the Migs generally look cooler than all the NATO planes except for the F-22 and the Blackbird.
SwagicalYololord
Nothing beats the YF-23 in beauty. Rest In Peace you beautiful dream.
YogSoth0th
Su-47 I'd argue could compete. One of the few Russian fighters that could.
OrC23
SU's are rad.
marsgoose
mig 21 is the best mig because it's extra pointy
AzgarOgly
Balalaika they called it.
playstation360
The SR-71 did that altitude at Mach 3 in the 70s.
Drewscifer
and out run / range surface to air missiles, while looking sexy as fuck
shreddedking
correct me if I am wrong but isn't sr71 record is 85k feet?
UserSubHunterOfIndeterminateGender
The 71 CRUISED at 80k feet. The Foxbat couldn't physically get any higher.
SargnargThaHardgeHag
That's not a foxbat though. Foxbat is MiG-25
Tikityler
I think they are talking about the record not the pictures.
whiterain1000
Mig29 is 77. Same era.
Drewscifer
SR-71 Introduce 1966 Mig-29 July 1982.. SR71 First flight 1964 Mig: 1977 sorta but not really....
whiterain1000
Yes but the Foxbat, the one in the pic did that flight in 77, and both the sr and mig were developed in the same era. One just flew sooner
MOTHERFUCKINGBEAR
MiG-29 is "Fulcrum". MiG-25 is "Foxbat".
Drewscifer
F-16 and Mig-29 same era: Definitely. F-16 Introduced 1978 & first flight 1974.
AzgarOgly
There is a big difference between SR-71 ans MiG-29. One is a plane designed for single purpose, run high and run fast. Another is a fighter.
virulentspam
Actually, not quite true. MIG-25 was designed as a intercept. To fly very high, very fast and intercept bombers as far out as possible.
virulentspam
That being said the MIG-25 was designed for short bursts, a sprint at mach 3 would wreck the engines. SR71 was designed for sustained speed.
AzgarOgly
MiG-25 and MiG-29 are very different planes, aren't they?
CryptBeast
Yep, and Mig-25's altitude record is far greater than SR-71's which is pretty mediocre anyway.
StarBug
InsanityKiwi
69 updoots
SpaceSphere
Allofyoush
BILL
TheDiviler
NYE
mohstlyfreshreposts
THE CIPHER GUY
Bigol284
This needs to happen but with the Planter's peanut instead.
Cgyachilles
I am stealing the fuck out of this. Right into the reaction gifs folder
talos2
When are the damn folders gonna come out on android?--"
Minkaf
I already have them, get the imgur beta app
hispanicyankee
I've been trying to figure out how but can't seem to manage it
talos2
Where do I get it?
RSEVB
Made it to the low 50s in a Tomcat once, up in the thin air & snuffed a motor. Buddy got higher and snuffed both. Long glide to relight.
KnucleheadFlow
Love that plane. I'll have to go to NYC to see one. Any still flying? Like for shows or something?
RSEVB
Nah, all got cut up due to Iran part sales scandal. But even Bill Gates couldn't afford to keep one flying!!!
KnucleheadFlow
Dang. Are you still flying? I spent 2 days last summer at the museum in Dayton. Fantastic stuff. Now I need to see the navy planes.
RSEVB
Nah, hung up the spurs in 2008, last flight in The Big Fighter was January 2000. Way fun, much speed.
TheKenM
Best ride of my life was in an F-18 where we got up in the “Wikipedia numbers” to hit 1,000 ground speed.
RSEVB
Good one. Kind of like the "speed of heat".
barterbxii
Were those motors pretty good overall and just not designed for the 50s?
RSEVB
TF-30 in the F-14A was great down low (below 25K'), pretty reliable. It couldn't breathe good over 30K'. GE-110's in the B/D were ROCKETS!!!
barterbxii
Nice dude, were you a pilot/wso?
RSEVB
Front seat.....
barterbxii
Pure jealousy from an -18 guy here
AluminiumFalcon
Did they get mad at you?
DreadPierateRoberts
Nah they are supposed to do that
samsonguy920
Motors don't get mad. They are fine.
RSEVB
We told the older guys about it; they laughed. Told us the 46K altitude limit wasn't about motors, was about the canopy. Me: "Oh. Oops."
AluminiumFalcon
Oh man. I thought they tracked all that stuff from the tower. So your CO didn't even know you did it? Must have been before the installed...
AluminiumFalcon
the nanny cams.
RSEVB
1994. All started as a Ready Room bet. We did it over the water; no radar control. Other bets that year: fastest in the break and longest
meerple
According to my experience with Kerbal Space Program, one engine dying = deathspin. Do real planes automatically prevent that?
RSEVB
Tomcat motors are 9' apart so at that altitude, no sweat. Asymmetric thrust is an issue in a coupled departure that can induce lots of yaw.
barterbxii
The 14s engines were not that far apart, even though they were wider than most fighters. All real planes are designed to fly single engine
AzgarOgly
Though it can be fatal on landing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kara_Hultgreen
RSEVB
There are procedures of losing an engine in this scenario; she didn't follow them quickly enough and departed flight/crashed. 1/2
RSEVB
2/2: Set 10deg pitch; rudder opposite yaw; throttles full A/B; gear up. She could have flown away but stalled/crashed. RIO lived, though.
macthelost
Only when you are unaware or forget one is out. You can’t throttle up on approach like normal and she hit burner. She fuckd up. We had>
AzgarOgly
You kinda need to throttle up if your approach fails, don't you?
macthelost
A pilot in Korea on an a10 who forgot he had an engine out and throttled up on approach, stood it sideways and punched out. He was very old.
5P4C3M4N
HUURRRRRRRRRR THE LENSE IS CURVED HURRRRRRRRRRR
ILoveTomHiddleston
I just heard that "argument" i am in awe, why are such dumb people even alive.
GlassCannon570
Do you want me to buy you a flight or not?
CryoSleeping
Haters will say it's Photoshop
DraugTheWhopper
What you need is a video at that altitude, to demonstrate that the curvature remains the same regardless of lens orientation.
FallenShadow1000
What's funny is that you can see that the first picture actually is a fisheye lens. None of the rest are though.
RandomAbscessMemories
Given how much of the plane is visible, I'd say they're still pretty wide-angle. (Not a flat-earther)
oforfs
Its funny, because all of this photos done with wide phpoto lens, and thats what gives curvature to horizon on them, or atleast, adds 1/?
oforfs
the most to the effect. Above about 10000m is, true, the altitude needed to start seeing the effect yourself, but it is very hard to see 2/?
oforfs
at 10k. And there is a stable, leveled layer of clouds which is much higher than a ground level on this photos, which negates some of 3/?
oforfs
the planes altitude in regard to observing the effect. So in short, yea, you probably can expect to see curvature on a 15+km high mig ride4/
oforfs
however slight and non expressieve, but on this photos, and photos in general, it tends to be more due to how lenses work. 5/5
jetflight
Fun fact: it actually is. For Earth to look like THAT, he'd have to climb a good hundred kilometres more. Or maybe even higher.
nipaxon
Even on the ISS you dont see the earth like that.
SeeTheNumbersTasteTheViolence
I can see curvature from a beach
sauciergymnast
No that's the gov't tricking you. It's the same branch that prevents people from going to the edge of Antarctica! Jeez you round earthers 1/
sauciergymnast
Are so silly. Believing things you can see and "science"
GlassCannon570
Bitch, I cross Antarctica in my daily commute.