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dixxienormus
Oil floating on water still burns and deters shipping and even real big warships too. Iran knows that. And it's plentiful in the area.
Level21Magikarp
JT1984
Wildfyre1000
Vempire
FrequentlyBaffled
The price of spice rose into the billions in Dune Awakening on most servers recently due to intentional duping of the main currency.
RElGNMAN
PunnyTiger
fat insane child rapist abusing military power
horseman05
69Voltage
Herbert knew
doctorId
He knew because shit like this has been happening for centuries, imperialists never change
Eleshar24
Herbert did, in fact, know. His first books lean heavily on the concept of hydraulic absolutism.
LenWeirdracin
FrankDepiction
This ain't rock and roll, this is genocide.
Antifalalalala
When I read Dune 45 years ago, I absolutely interpreted the book in this manner.
I do not think it was a mistake that there is an Arabesque theme running throughout the series.
SubtleOrc
Paul maud'dib is an allegory for Lawrence of Arabia so sure
psmith00
might need checking but saw a note today that the straight is only closed to American and Israeli ships. seems fair.
halfabubbleoff
The Iranian Foreign Minister said something to that effect in the past week. But in practice that isn’t happening, otherwise brent crude prices would be sliding down.
psmith00
hee hee. not a chance. if the oil companies see any sort of difficulty with getting supplies to even one country they'll jack up the prices for everyone. it's a global commodity, right? not absolutely sure but i'd bet that Canada could supply all its own demand and still have more to sell offshore but we're paying $2.15 per litre here on the west coast and the price went up exactly when the action started in Iran. (yes, i'm sure there are others with higher prices.)
thekadeshi
Okay very funny but please let’s not equate the Iranian Fundamentalist regime with House fucking Atreides
TheSecondPiewackit
They're more like... Seitch Tabr. Wait, does that make Jared Kushner the Worm God?
TodayInSA
hes way more of a fayd-rautha
duktayp
Why don't they just use the force
bloxxing
why use the force when you've already got the farce.
Ankylosaur
That would violate the Prime Directive.
morningxafter
Level21Magikarp
Hemtroll
Use the Force, Duke
morningxafter
LgpandBandit
Lol..because the warp drive is broken...
Quixus
Did the Geller field collapse?
Eleshar24
This is uncanny. A desert land, containing important resources enabling the functioning of civilisation and full of religious fanatics, gets attacked by a technologically superior power, led by fat, diseased ridden narcissistic pedo psychopath, advised by his sociopathic corrupt mental. I wish them both the same fate.
shepahrdjhon
2 I will even give you a personal anecdote to prove my second point. I can't ride a bike because I never learned. My family wasn't rich enough to afford one back in Pakistan. I came to the US for studies and had a good white American friend. He was an older guy and when we were talking about something related to bikes I said I don't know how to ride and he a assumed it was because it was somehow forbidden. Karachi has more bike riders than Detroit and they are mostly Muslim.
dadof2as
So much "uncanniness" in the series.
Howlingowl
It’s almost as if a writer can read history and base his fictional setting loosely on actual historical events
Blackfinity
And RFKjr brings the worms...
DeepThought42
3rdoption
There is a reason Herbert used Arabic words.
SubtleOrc
yes it's an allegory of Lawrence of Arabia
WorkerLurker
And numbers! /s
Eleshar24
Also Persian ones (albeit mostly on the other side) - padishah emperor, siridar baron, bashar,...
shepahrdjhon
"full of religious fanatics" I hope you are talking about the Israelis who CONSTANTLY recall the Amalek and attacked Iran on a Jewish religious holiday. Arabs and Iranians have fought as several different factions of every political ideology. Saddam's and Qadaffi's Socialists, Nasser and Mossadegh's neo-liberal/socialist mix, PLFP led Communists and yes also Islamists but you people can't prescribe any reason other than religion to anti-colonial Muslim resistance.
ChazzK
Oh there are plenty of Islamic religious fanatics in the mid-east... many of them put in power (directly or not) through the interventions of the Western sphere, but they're still THERE.
shepahrdjhon
Sure they are there but why focus on them? why does no one in the west even remember who Gamal Abdul Nasser was. And Mossagedh's name is mostly used by a very few American leftists.
ChazzK
I mean that wasn't the point. The point was that there were religious extremists back in the day, which Herbert based several factions on SEVERAL sides of the conflict in Dune on; there are religious extremists today, in several factions on several sides of the conflict in the Mid-East.
Yes, the Israeli government is one such group, no doubt at all. But the Fremmen were far more obviously based off of the then-more-common "Islamic Freedom Fighter" than anything Israeli.
shepahrdjhon
but why in the 70s focus on "Islamic Freedom Fighter"? The Muslim Brotherhood was tiny at the time. Even the pro-Palestine resistance was being led by a Communist Christian in PLFP. Do you not see the inherent dehumanization of Arabs in the subtext? Everything we do MUST be due to religion. If I can't ride a bike as a Muslim it must be because its forbidden and not because I never had one. The movie did a better job of showing factions within the Fremen including secular ones than the books.
Daliena06
*Right now*, the Iranian government absolutely is in the grip of religious fanatics. Sad truth. Yes, there have been others out there too, but this is what they got at the moment and thus is the most relevant.
shepahrdjhon
Did Frank Herbert write Dune after Nasser or before? Nasser came to power after the original book was written. Al Quaida didn't exist, Khomeini was a nobody, even Saudi Arabia was more progressive. You think Frank Herbert was some kind of fortune teller who could see all of this? Or is it more likely that he was victim of the same kind of propaganda that today puts Saddam Hussain, Bashar Al Asad, and Osama Bin Ladin into the same category when two of these were secular dictators.
Eleshar24
It was a joke, not a dick. Don't take it too hard. When FH wrote about the Fremen, he alluded to Iranians about the same way he alluded to Donald Trump when writing about baron Harkonen.