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AOCsUnshavenChode
When I start to forget that Imgur has no fucking clue where the government gets money, shit like this reminds me
ferengischoolofbusiness
Shouldn't that business guy be elon musk?
DarthVadersCharredTesticles
#im14andthisisdeep
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AOCsUnshavenChode
social programs is how poverty gets eliminated, after all. not wealth creation.
HurkWurk
and most subsidies are not hand outs. business does something for them.
BootyistheTruestFormofArt
You know like destroy the housing market.
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whermyhead
I've given up making arguments like these on Imgur.
AOCsUnshavenChode
why? because opposition is myopically minded and has no grasp on history/economics/individual responsibility?
DeadlyCheese
The problem is WHY are people poor and needy? If you're smoking weed all day and can't hold a job, how is that my fucking problem?
SiddharthaBuddha
What if the reason is cause the govt is too self interested to pass meaningful economic legislation?
AOCsUnshavenChode
The downvotes are from individuals who probably havent donated a dime to a 501c3, but are happy to tell you its wrong for you to claim a 1
AOCsUnshavenChode
right to hold onto your own money for your own private use.
T3hi84n2g
If I can come home from work and get shitface drunk and go to work the next day, I should be able to do the same with Pot. I hate that the >
T3hi84n2g
> only option I have to 'unwind' is to destroy my liver, since I need to have a job that's way better than McD's in order to pay bills.
QuaqueNocte
I don't think that applies to the majority that need it. Most humans have a need to do something meaningful with their lives.
AOCsUnshavenChode
The problem is not being given the choice. The government isn't the most reliable at resource allocation and the taxpayer just takes it.
Tiqbrowser
Careful comrade: "Give to the poor and you are a saint. Ask why people are poor and you're a communist"
Wuz314159
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2013-11-13/how-mcdonald-s-and-wal-mart-became-welfare-queens
AWESOMEBOT
I agree if you're just sitting on your thumbs you don't deserve my pity or help. There are others that work hard but the cost if living is
AWESOMEBOT
Far too high. For ex. In most states 16/hr is a living wage. In SoCal you're still forced to have 2 or more roommates.
pollweig
How about this? We do neither!
PepperTheNickel
But how does help?
pollweig
It is not the responsibility of guv'ment to take money out of the pockets of citizens and give it to others. They could use it for capital.
AOCsUnshavenChode
100% correct. it's nice to see these comments
realidahoan
Fun fact: they're both socialism!
Thistly
also, 99 red balloons, 'cause old out of date "memes". I like recycling. call me a hippy. (2/2)
Thistly
classify and clarify? :) (i:e what do you mean by socialism, and why do you believe both of these are socialism?) (1/2)
realidahoan
Socialism is the public(government) control over the means of production. Capital(money in this case) is a means of production, since gov>
realidahoan
is directing it's use, it is control this means. It does not have FULL control over the means of production, so it is really more >
realidahoan
accurately described as partial socialism, or fascism. Also known as crony capitalism. So they are not full socialism, >
realidahoan
but they are both degrees of socialism.
AddictiveTendancies
It's easy... invest in poor amd middle class and you will get your country out of debt. I hate this "the rich are job creators bullshit"
imakeeper
Yeah, but the rich are the subsidy creators.
TotalBungle
you just get slightly less poor and slightly upper middle class. or maybe you give it to people who know how to use money effectively.
klubai4
AAAAAHHAHAHAHA you're funny dude, keep it up :-D
AOCsUnshavenChode
soooo, who creates jobs?
AddictiveTendancies
Entrepreneurs do... dont have to be super rich. Which is excuse they use to get big tax breaks...
AOCsUnshavenChode
so how would the rich sustain their income without hiring individuals to do the work to produce that income?
AddictiveTendancies
Stop. They do hire. Not the extent they claim though...
AOCsUnshavenChode
to achieve the level of wealth reqd to exact America's contempt, you have to generate a mountain of money (obv). my question then is - how 1
WorldsSmallestMegaDick
Federal aid to the poor and needy eclipses subsidies by multiple trillions annually...
TakWriterOfWorlds
iidky
Trump is going to take care of that soon enough.
WorldsSmallestMegaDick
I don't think so, we know he can't get a bill passed.
SnOwCap350
Where do you get your information.... I'm guessing fox news
WorldsSmallestMegaDick
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_programs_in_the_United_States
realidahoan
Not even close. Consider that the entire MIC is literally subsidizing an entire industry.
SiddharthaBuddha
I don't understand how more people don't see this. Then factor in the prison industrial complex...
WorldsSmallestMegaDick
The entire planet spends 1.531 trillion dollars on MIC annually, the US spends 2.287 trillion on social welfare programs annually.
realidahoan
Can you provide sources? I'd like to learn more. I'm against all government spending. Yes, all of it.
AOCsUnshavenChode
hear hear