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#Jonny Depp #amber_heard #julian_assange
I like Johnny Depp as an actor but his private life is none of my business.
Nov 12, 2020 8:44 AM
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#Jonny Depp #amber_heard #julian_assange
I like Johnny Depp as an actor but his private life is none of my business.
razorbelly88888
Yeh and the guardian are the worst at it huh? Lol
YouCanCallMeCal
Fuck julian assange
JMensch
Oh noes! Russian stooge Assange is getting extradited! Oh the humanity! How does this affect FREE press again?
SJohnson23
At that point, virtually everything about Assange had been published. He’s been plenty covered.
carlsagansghost
The Julian Assange case is NOT about press freedom. Period.
Huor
THANK YOU. I'm so sick of hearing about that guy.
diygal
This is wrong. 13 articles during the Assange court case. https://www.theguardian.com/media/julian-assange
MissSiesta
We're in the middle of a pandemic. Johnny probably gets them a lot more clicks and advertisement money.
KamikazeGerbil101
The proletariat needs to rise up and Something something... aww to hell with it, I'm going to take a nap !
JustinSane6
To be fair; the majority of Americans prefer their news to be puff pieces about celebrity gossip, rather than anything with substance.
NPaine
The sad thing is the Guardian is one of the better media outlets...Far away from the Murdoch menstrual rags
ElbowDeepInUserSub
Yeah I was going to say, let's cherry-pick a dataset to discredit what is actually one of the best remaining INDEPENDENT news sources.
BaronSpaghetti
Now now. Menstrual rags serve a purpose.
JayTheSaltLord
being made of recycled shite, the murdoch rags do make for good bbq/campfire starting materials.
PlasticFicus
It's like people forget that there's a whole slew of people in the world that don't care about US news
totallyruinedyourday
Also unpopular opinion: both Johnny Depp and Amber Heard are terrible ppl and the fantastic beasts movies were awful so who cares?
Lucidacide
I read the Guardian daily, didn't find another free independant daily newspaper with such a wide quality coverage. If you do please share 1/
Lucidacide
But they do have questionable priorities like Sport is a big section instead of a small one inside Culture, while Sciences or -->
Lucidacide
the 'Environment' sections are small sections inside News.
Lucidacide
They need to attract readers and sports are a helluva drug nowadays.
Murfthesurrf
I get really tired of celrbrity news articles. I dfc about their marriages/divorces/pregnancies/etc.
shepahrdjhon
Reminder that this is very likely a right wing tactic to get more people again now that Trump has been defeated. This MRA stuff is how they
shepahrdjhon
2 got me, a Muslim immigrant, (who also happens to be a gamer and shy around women) to support Trump in 2016.
shepahrdjhon
3 go and actually LOOK at what the articles are saying instead of believing this crap.
JhericFury
While I agree with the others who point out the guardian discussed the wider issues, there was a day when depp was the top story, over/1
JhericFury
-The election, over coronavirus, over genocides and wars. We're all slaves to advertising./2
Mustakraken
Yeah, but... Assange is not a "journalist" he's a propagandist dressed up as a journalist to troll countries Russia wants weakened.
Mustakraken
I've no doubt he's hooked on and dragged along some perfectly good folks interested in transparency, but it seems like in Assange's case
Mustakraken
at best he is an unwitting or at least partially unwitting tool being exploited to weaken western democracies. He's his own hero.
Mustakraken
At worst he knows exactly what he's about. Best propaganda uses some truth, and some stuff they've leaked was better know by all.
Mustakraken
Other things they leaked out innocent lives at risk needlessly... Either by design or because he's so far up his own butt.
jjjack007
The Guardian has more done to Journalism than one can image " Amnesty international " Nobel peace price , Snoden, assange etc..
kamosey
Exactly. They actually lead the Snowden reveal.
jjjack007
Yes , that what he wanted , and the Guardian revealed the Craziness of NSA
kamosey
While keeping in mind that they are left leaning, I always count the Guardian as a credible, well researched news source.
jjjack007
Truly one of the best, and besides some comments its finance is done by viewership an transparent .
BoblbLawsLawBlg
As someone who works in product strategy at a major celeb news site trust me there is no grand design to distract. It’s to make money.
DanaConti5
There’s consumer demand for it that’s so intense there’s a whole ecosystem of faux celebrities that welcome exposure to feed it.
tzap
I don't think it's really "designed". It's just that people click an article about Johnny Depp more likely than an article about Assange.
tzap
That said, The Guardian is a fairly reasonable news piece. It's not really a tabloid. A lot of the articles used the Depp case as a lead to
tzap
the wider issue of domestic abuse.
YouMealyMouthedCrotchPheasant
The whole thing about the Depp/Heard things is that I just feel it was a relationship breaking down with fault on both sides. We've all.. /2
YouMealyMouthedCrotchPheasant
2/ ..been there and I think there is no "winner" in the situation.
LaughingC
I have never been in a relationship where someone defecated in my bed and cut of a piece of my finger
YouMealyMouthedCrotchPheasant
Sounds like you've dated vanilla then.
Seethreepeeoh
The guardian sells advertising space. We like salacious shit. We even like that we hate that we like salacious shit.
Adultfunny1humor
BlueskydragonFX
Reason I adblock those sites. Like Dailymail who seems to make retarded long articles with duplicated text just to get more ads in them.
Imalwaysready
^This. It isn't "designed" to do anything but sell papers and make money. It may have the effect of distracting us, but it's not designed to
diygal
Except, like everything Craig Murray writes, it is horseshit. https://www.theguardian.com/media/julian-assange
DorianBlack
I would also add, sadly: How many general public folks even remember what Julian did specifically? Much less care about him/his actions?
LeChez
**Practically every single media outlet sells advertising space.
FartPoweredPogoStick
I took a salacious shit this morning wearing a tutu and a gimp mask.
Seethreepeeoh
And I hate that I love that
tugboatcaptain
Silly girl. The Guardian exists to SELL ITSELF.
zmanz
Thefappening
ButterfaceTaintClown
if he paid subscription, he'd see their editorial content, rather than the content that's pushed to you based on your browsing history. (1
ButterfaceTaintClown
if you pay for The Guardian then The Guardian is the product. if you visit it for the free articles, then you're the product. (2
strugglesnuggler
If the window wares are all shit I don't want, why would I go into the store?
Mpchilli
Cuz most hoomans are attracted to the window shit. Unfortunately if the window has only boring but genuine items, wud get fewer shoppers. ?
NinjaCongo
The point obviously isn't that Guardian writes about Depp but its conspicuous silence on Assange. I generally love the Guardian, but that 1
NinjaCongo
shit is a bit sus, really. 2
amp99
It's a fair point, but a significant amount of the Guardian's coverage was directly related to the wider issue of domestic abuse, and... 1/x
minuteye
1/ IIRC, there were also articles about the frustration that in the middle of a pandemic (when the UK courts were hugely backed up and most
minuteye
2/ people were being given huge wait times for their custody cases, etc) that so much court time/money was being wasted on what was seen
minuteye
3/ by many as an American couple hashing out their divorce in public by drumming up a libel case that had no chance of succeeding.
minuteye
4/ The imbalance in access to resources during a crisis angle was an important one, imo.
ElbowdeepinAgony
Money=Attention I guess
amp99
how some of Depp's actions were tactics employed by abusers to deflect from what they'd done. One of the articles, for example, was a... 2/x
amp99
piece containing responses from domestic violence charities. So, the Guardian's coverage wasn't simply tabloid celebrity gossip; they... 3/x
amp99
attempted to highlight a substantial and under-reported issue. Link to charity article coming up (long link, so needs own post). 4/x
amp99
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/nov/02/johnny-depps-defeat-in-libel-case-hailed-by-domestic-violence-charities 5/5
toboldlygowherenomanhasgonebefore
And that's why - in this instance - it's not a fair point. Apart from that, with their business model - no paywall - they need clicks.
YouMealyMouthedCrotchPheasant
Yeah, most of the serious opinion pieces in the UK have focussed on this. It's become a "cause célèbre" for memes though and that angle.. /2
Bluegrasslass
As a former abuse victim (thanks Dad!!!!!) I thank you for this.
ElbowdeepinAgony
So sorry. You sound like you are in such pain
wwibbles
People can be in pain and not sound in pain, ya know?
NacLac
Dude was accused of rape and fled, being the head of a whistleblower website doesn't exempt you from the rest of the law
takemetoyourleader
Wow, didn't know anyone fell for that. Sweden dropped the investigation last year. Inform yourself.
Tarmaccian
Correction: the charge expired because he’d fled for so long and Sweden couldn’t make progress without him. Inform yourself.
takemetoyourleader
Start by checking the charge friend. Neither you or I would call that "rape"! All to get him to US where they jail whistleblowers.
Tarmaccian
Don't let your fanaticism get in the way of facts, friend. It actually a good standard for "rape", and Assange isn't a whistleblower at all.
evilcarp
The rape charge was never going to stick. It was politically motivated. I have a problem with a foreign citizen being charged with espionage
Miller16of16
Assange is being extradited for "espionage" for exposing US war crimes in Iraq. He isn't charged with a crime anywhere else.
MidwayMarshall
UK wouldn't hand him over to sweden to investigate two sexual crimes. Sweden eventually dropped due to too much time having passed.
siberianhufky
UK wasn’t refusing to hand him over. He had asylum in the Ecuador embassy for years. Police were stationed permanently in case he left.
Questionablysensible
Because he jumped bail after the preliminary hearing.
Miller16of16
and weakness of case. He was never formally charged, wanted for questioning. Being extradited for the Iraq release. He should have faced >
Miller16of16
the accusations and walked, but it wouldn't have prevented being charged in US for espionage.
MidwayMarshall
"The reason for this decision is that the evidence has weakened considerably due to the long period of time that has elapsed since theevents
MidwayMarshall
in question, I would like to emphasise that the injured party has submitted a credible and reliable version of events." Sweden's Deputy
Ricobe9
Julian assange does not represent press freedom. He might have many years ago, but he's since then become very controlled by his own...
sonoflane
Agreed. He coordinated with Trumps campaign to release the Clinton emails because he hates her, not out of any sense of freedom of press
WrongReference
NO that is NOT why you should be careful with this issue, not simply because “he/she is not in my camp”. It’s for the reasons stated by the
WrongReference
Previous commentor, that he did not conduct himself with full journalistic integrity that you should be wary.
bowser23
They just stated a fact to emphasize the original point.
WrongReference
Only he/she knows what his/her intent was in posting that. But to politicize professional ethics is a terrible fcking idea.
Tiis
'politicize professional ethic'. You know this is a political issue, right...?
Ricobe9
... Bias and have been criticised by many whistleblowers for not handling data well. At one point he published unfiltered data with lot of..
Ricobe9
... Personal info of innocent citizens, putting them at risk. Something no proper journalist or whistleblower would do
b3twixt
Untrue. Multiple sources say Assange has always been very careful with data. The leak has been a guardian journalist, David Leigh.
Ricobe9
It's not untrue. He did leak sensitive data of innocent people and it sparked a lot of criticism. There's at least 2 cases where it happened
fantasticlight
Tell that to the LBGT community in Saudi Arabia he unwittingly doxxed.
Tarmaccian
“Unwittingly”… at some point it’s safe to assume WL knew what the consequences of their actions would be.
gnichtsan1329
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