AllGloryToTheDarkLord
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Now with better sourcing!
Jul 5, 2023 11:24 AM
AllGloryToTheDarkLord
101870
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Now with better sourcing!
RJMac5
The US has had more mass shootings per month than the rest of the world has had in the whole of recorded history!
spacebaIIstheaccount
I think this would be easier to interpret if it were only two box colors: green for 0, purple with a number for mass shooting
TodayIsSlapANaziDay
Not telling you how to run your society buuut you guys over there should probably keep all the colors except green down a bit.
zafner
Thanks for including the specific definition you're using. The way we have multiple definitions makes it difficult to get intelligible statistics
Frostyx1000
Damn, that’s sad aye
drinkthederpentine
Hey I wonder if giving every single one massive publicity makes it more or less likely to happen?
AlmostCertainlyNotPickles
Thank you for doing this.
marsgoose
Anti gun activist tried lumping in gang violence and random mass shootings, as a result now everyone just cares even less about mass shootings.
ActionJohnnie
Whole new meaning to Green Day
ZeRootOfAllEvil
Mass Shootings UK 2023
AllGloryToTheDarkLord
I lol'd
AndMeToo40
The NRA just see you as targets. They make the profit from gun sales and you got a country full of moving targets. They’re happy they got your money and use it to buy politicians.
WhereIsMyAppleQuava
Thumbnail looked like a board game or something fun, not this.
Ds2k7
This is like the last fun game of tetris
keyblader1985
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
I think it is sad we even have to track stats like this.
simonsaysabunchofstuff
Fourth of July overshadowed by 16 mass shootings across US : https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/05/fourth-of-july-mass-shootings-gun-violence
LizzyTheEdgy
Yea but like, thats a whole FIVE DAY period so we'd actually see some orange and red in there
brambleheart
So April is *not* the cruelest month...
renamingbecauseIdontcarefordaddiesofbusiness
Awww yis the last 3 days of febuary were a nice relief....... wait
opi098514
Hmmm so statically speaking the safest day is the 24th of the month and the most deadly is the 26th. I’m not sure what to do with this information.
BoxTurtleBox
Was playing the game codenames with my niece over the holiday. She associates school with shooting. None of the adults were able to figure out the clue. There is definitely a gun problem.
huffnpuff72
At this point it’s not even a fun problem. It’s a money problem. No one can stand against the dollars from the gun lobby.
huffnpuff72
* gun problem
badatediting
TwentyEightCharacterUsername
If you don’t mind my asking, how old is she?
johncooper78
OMG which country?!
AllGloryToTheDarkLord
Lol
Shaodyn
A lot of countries manage to go years without a mass shooting. The US can't even manage one week.
Kitehammer
A lot of countries don't send a few hundred thousand people into bankruptcy over medical bills each year either.
Shaodyn
Remind me again what makes America "the greatest"?
Kitehammer
Delusion.
Shaodyn
I suspected as much.
Schtubby
4 consecutive green days in April? Must've felt like a holiday
Minoes
they made up for it in May
wlfman
I had no idea we even had '0' days, tbh
slowshutterspeed
April 24th is when Fox News Fired Tucker Carlson. Is it just a coincidence? I don't know, I'm just asking questions.
AlmostCertainlyNotPickles
It's cancelled out by the four consecutive purple days the same time the following month, unfortunately.
meauho
Which actually was a holiday
dontblamemeivotedforkotos
April had 18 in a row. Jesus
JollyJokzr
Could we extrapolate to see when the last green day will be?
schmonday
Wait, we had green days?
sfrinlan
Scattered amongst this boulevard of broken dreams, yes
OnionCutter
Ahhhhh.....dookie
ochnoe
StillAKidAtHeart
AlmostCertainlyNotPickles
I wonder what this looks like as a ratio of gun ownership per capita
ChickenSnizort
The visualization of dots on a map is pointless. It correlates to population density. The only discussion to be had is whether the rates of gunshot injuries in the US are too high. Most GRA's won't answer that question. Or they will say that the solution lies in enforcement of (unspecified) existing laws.
StillAKidAtHeart
If you can find the data, we can see.
semperfi891
Now overlay with holidays. Curious if there would be any correlation (understanding it doesn't necessarily tie in with causation)
FeChefImgur
May & June were all on the weekends.
BearRaid
Just looked at the worst day in June and uh.
WhatUpDog3000
BirdieBones
"Take your CAT? Oooohhh, i thought it was take your GAT."
semperfi891
Someone took the wrong cats I suppose.
Lifesforliving
Quick Wiki search: the US has 7 definitions of mass shootings/killings. That alone is horrifying.
Heisanevilgenius
That's like how Star Wars has to have different categories of canon. Because there's entirely too much Star Wars
niflster
Do those definitions fall into George Carlins "soft language" categories?
untrugby
The horrifying part is that the definition is continually being redefined to create a larger number of “mass shootings”
cyborganism
Innu people: "We have 7 different words for 'snow'." Americans: ...
tazedconfused
I hate it here
neospor1n
“I don’t know if I’m more scared that it happened, or that it happens often enough we have a phrase for it”—Broken Arrow
CelestialSea
They keep redefining it to bring the numbers down.
INeverWaitForIt
It has never been legally defined specifically for this reason--so gun advocates can use the most finicky data model and point to it and say it's not a problem.
avidatheist
Yeah, each group that tracks them has their own definition of mass shooting.
Tarmaccian
Exactly. Some groups distinguish whether victims were random or targeted, some do or don’t include the shooter in the death toll, some have different counts for what’s considered “mass”… it’s almost like it’s a tough subject that doesn’t really fit in a nice and simple chart.
MarkiusFox
It's why I default to the FBI definition. Other groups don't like that the FBI definition specifies fatalities instead of all injuries. FBI definition btw, is 4 or more fatalities. The infamous FBI Miami shootout was, by their definition, a mass shooting.
PleasantPeasantPheasant
Time frame also comes to mind to distinguish between a mass murder and a serial killer.
Sarshrimp
It's like Inuit people and words for snow
KuldFyt
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
Eh, kinda. It works sort of like German where descriptive words are joined onto the root word. It’s why German can have those insanely long words. So while we would say “packing snow” or “powder snow” as two words, Inuit people say it as “packingsnow” and “powdersnow.”
aShogunNamedMarcus
Remember if it didn't occur within the mass shooting region of the US, it's just a sparkling bloodbath
jacblake
Also depends if it’s spelled with an additional “e” before the “y”.
Enoan
It's only a Mass shooting in Massachusetts, USA. (a state that starts with "Mass" which is a not uncommon shortening of the name. Boston is there)
Minaris
(Explaining the joke after the joke using parenthesis kind of makes the joke less funny)
Enoan
Not everyone is familiar with American geography.
barnwolf
It it only involves minorities and poor people then it's called gang violence. /s
AllGloryToTheDarkLord
Someone mentioned that last month, so on this months update I specified exactly which definition of mass shooting is being used by the source.
Lifesforliving
Understood but it isn't a criticism. My point was that in the UK we have 1. The disturbing part to me is how the US cannot do the same without annoying the pro gun lobby.
thetonestarr
Curious if the other 6 definitions have their own terms in the UK.
chefsoda
Any discussion of mass shooting upsets the gun lobby. The different definitions are used to support differing claims and desired actions, even amongst groups trying to sort the problem.
Dapperworth
They can't even research the problem. They're fucked.
chefsoda
FWIW, the Dickey Amendment did not prevent research into gun violence at all. It did forbid the use of tax monies for political advocacy relating to gun control. Not offering a value judgment there, but there's a considerable difference.
Einstein9073
Sounds like you bought into the Republican lies. Tell me, how have you white-washed Rhonda Santa's behavior in florida?
ExTechOp
Enactment of the 1996 Dickey Amendment, which prevented the CDC from using its funding "to advocate or promote gun control," largely shut down research into gun violence in the United States. — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dickey_Amendment (so the end result was exactly the same)
bigfatmadcowmoo
What a bad way to visualize an epidemic. Here, I fixed it:
thingsofyourmind
its like the red line follows the blue lines
bigfatmadcowmoo
CakeOrGlory
...why is there a recognizable two week spike?
bigfatmadcowmoo
AlmostCertainlyNotPickles
Now do a pareto by weekdays
bigfatmadcowmoo
That's a bit outta my expertise, sorry
barnwolf
Now graph it over the last 50 years with another line for population and maybe one more for number of people living in poverty.
bigfatmadcowmoo
Lol that sounds like a lotta work, man! This article can help you out tho: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6199901/
bigfatmadcowmoo
Tho it would probably be more striking to graph the number of people shot per day from mass shootings
Tom40
Or just number of people shot per day.
bigfatmadcowmoo
Ya maybe!
chaosbuni
Might even be better to do a tree chart informed by per-capita population locally.
bigfatmadcowmoo
Ya I imagine some areas of the USA probably aren't as affected as others
michiyl
A country which has a weekly average mass shooting indicator ...
bigfatmadcowmoo
Oh that was optional, I can just delete that trendline, then it's like it doesn't exist!
michiyl
Problem solved - hooray!
sfrinlan
Now do a heatmap of shootings by country
bigfatmadcowmoo
Oof that's a lotta work, how about I just steal from this site https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country
sfrinlan
I didn't realize Venezuela was all about that pew pew life
bigfatmadcowmoo
Pew pew life lol ya i didn't realize Greenland was either
zfournier16
Cant tell ya how many times iv tried to explain to no avail that chicago is the far from the worst city lol
channelranger
The highest chance of violence *per capita* is in rural areas, IIRC. Cities just get shit because there's more people.
wadatahmydamie
Chicago has a dense population *and* they border the state with some of the laxest gun laws in the country.
LerryV2
According to that website in 2022 Illinois had the most shootings at 57 total shootings and a total of 304 total victims killed or injured.
LerryV2
that is the highest in the nation followed by Texas at 283 and California with 246. The last two would make sense as they have the
LerryV2
highest population in the country.
LerryV2
44 of the 57 shootings that took place in IL took place in Chicago. So according to that website that it is the worst city
zfournier16
Please tell me where that is ill give you a hint that site doesnt name any state in any way have some reading material that does https://www.populationu.com/gen/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us
LerryV2
I downloaded the data in CSV format and counted how many times each state was listed in 22. Then I counted how many times chicago was listed. Il had 57 mass shootings and 44 being from Chicago. There were 50 people killed, 254 injured with a total of 304 total.
LerryV2
Also California had a total of 246 total deaths/injuries while Texas had 283. Texas has around 1 million registered firearms in the country while california has 400,000. So while texas has a little more total, when you look at total population and how many firearms it shows that gun control has little effect on total gun violence. Esp when you look at IL when it comes on op at 304 total victims and its a very strict state when it comes to firearm laws.
LerryV2
Again all this data is coming from the website that OP is getting his numbers from
chaosbuni
As someone who lives near Chicago... There are shootings, but they're not as common as you think the way media portrays them. Also remember additional context: Chicago is population dense, so yeah shootings will happen more often here because there is more people in general there, but also Chicago, relatively speaking, is a very progressive city, and most of the negative reporting is coming from conservative sources.
thisisntverybritish
Chicago has a population of c. 2.5m, England and Wales have a population of c. 60m. In 2022 E+W had 696 murders and Chicago had 695. That is a murder rate 25 times higher.
Sw4gtastic
It would be more apt to compare Chicago to other major US cities as that is the comparison people make when calling Chicago dangerous.
Kreviathan
I live in a city around 800k and we also get shootings every other day. But 99% of them are gang related, most often infighting. But stray bullets damage homes, injure, and sometimes even kill people every couple years. Frankly, conservatives just like to bash on progressive cities.
zfournier16
Im with ya i live in elgin so people talk about it alot and i show numbers and go dude whats going on with the media right now is a slam campaign because rich people dont like illinois favoring the majority rather than the 1% and it never sinks in lol
mikeymikeymikeymikeymikeymikeymikeymikeymikeymikey
Idk what neighborhood but I lived 2 stops from midway for about 6 months. Not the most gunfire I've heard in my life by a long shot
wadatahmydamie
You’ll never hear those sources point out how close Chicago is to Indiana, a state where you can buy a gun in a convenience store. (Hyperbole, but barely)
briham86
I live in Chicago and I actually accidentally drove into Indiana on one occasion. The metro area extends across the state border. The idea that Indiana policies don't affect Chicago is absolutely ridiculous.
fbutt09
Which is the worst city and which is the safest?
jacblake
False. Black bear.
Fedotia
Well, one month a few years ago New York was so safe that it had a lower murder rate than London.
briham86
fbutt09
Seems like the more the poverty, the more violent crime? Linked? You betcha.
LrrrRulerofThePlanetOmicronPerseiVIII
Missouri killing it with 3 appearances in the top ten!
KevininPHX
Interesting, with how fast Josh Hawley can run away from danger, I thought it might be lower. Maybe his cowardice doesn't extrapolate to the state as a whole.
Swashbuckler101
Literally
Carcinos
Well, it is Missouri-ble there. 😁👍