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Apparently, a Florida woman bought her dog a plane ticket while evacuating from Hurricane Irma. The particular person who took the photo was upset about it, and decided to post this to Twitter. I personally am all for it, but it seems that a lot of people are not. What are your thoughts?
CosmicFlowerPower
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DrunkSnowWhite
Where else would it sit the entire trip? On her lap? It's not exactly small. At least she's actually paying for the extra space needed.
Jdotz
I wont mind if doggo spills over into my lap. 13/10 big doggo would pet
awholelotofnothin
Frankly, I think dogs should fly for free, as long as they fit on a lap. Would the poster also be pissed at the overweight dude who buys x2?
Jimmyb3121
Rather have a dog than a baby on my flight
Gimmemarg
I second that. At least dogs are quiet.
Cheomesh
Babies are human beings, you twit.
Juleva
Yeah fuck the baby let em drown in irmas maturnal arms
RemiRixJones
Reading the comments like
Subsound
Its more complex than that, it looks to be therapeutic, airlines dont have a good track record lately, and it's once...chill
Cincychaos
I wondered if it was a therapeutic dog too
tiikki
Or for the one who was left behind because of the dog taking the seat.
evilspock
So long as she paid for the seat and the airline allowed it, people can stuff it. Way too many assholes who need to mind their own business
drgonzo180550
Depends if it's evacuation
Constami
It's a regular flight.
MoreLikeLawlSchool
Then buy your fucking plane ticket in advance. People had more than enough time to evacuate Florida.
baldewok
In an emergency evacuation people should be allowed to take their pets in their lap for free, in order to free up more seats.
roar2O
If every person had an animal, especially a large one, that is a shitton of extra weight.
tiikki
evacuation flight -> minimum luggage -> balances out the weight.
merxman
I dunno about "minimum" luggage, if anything I'd think a bunch of people take more assuming it might otherwise be lost forever.
thefirebelly
People might be pissed because seats were hard to get maybe? It's like if there are 3 people and 3 seats on a life raft...
Sledgewolf1
"let them eat cake"
somethingsomethingmcbob
I wouldn't evacuate without my pup.
lawideas
Well, that depends: Did a human end up stranded in the hurricane path because this woman bought a ticket for her dog?
animatronicvelcrorat
god no
merxman
As far as Miami, anyway, TV reports that only 47 people were stranded, almost all international travelers. So probably no.
MoreLikeLawlSchool
Considering they all had plenty of time to evacuate, no.
iananimated
The seat next to her is free. Perhaps that person went to the toilet or maybe it's a free seat. Impossible to know.
whitegirlwaasted
No.
ruint
I don't see the problem, they're good dogs.
tiikki
This risks a life of another human being because the dog takes a seat on evacuation flight.
wheresthebaby
They're good dogs Brent
LandOfTheFreeBecauseOfTheBrave
Indeed...
coffingirl
Here in Alberta when fort Mac was on fire the airline here evacuated people & pets at no charge for either. No one was upset.
merxman
Sounds about right, living up to the positive stereotypical view I have of Canadians :P
CaliforniaMoon
I think it's cool but if I had an anaphylactic reaction I prob wouldn't .... can they check ahead of time if people have allergies??
tiikki
The main issue is that this was evacuation flight.
merxman
Except there's no such thing, absent a mandate from the government to just load people, no tickets/money, etc.
maybeialreadydid
Exactly. If charging for tickets - it's just another commercial flight.
Noob3rts
The only concerns I can see are allergies and possible noise disturbance of barking. Personally I wouldn't mind the barking but others..
Noob3rts
are giant flaming douche canoes who go "OMG MY EARSSSS!!1 GIT IT OFF THE PLANEE!!!111"
tiikki
The problem is prioritizing life of an animal over human. The dog could have traveled in cargo compartment which is the usual case for them.
Noob3rts
There are many factors that you are missing too though. Plane size, plane frequency, airline rules (the dog would have never got on without
Noob3rts
the flight attendants seeing it) and things of that nature.
twofishtails
I would love this, but I do see recently an enormous increase in self-entitled people taking their pets to libraries, restaurants,etc.
thanksfoenothing
Let her alone. She's trying to save her life and her dog's life.
tiikki
And risking a life of someone else trying to get safe.
ConsistentlyLateCommenter
My dog is worth as much to me as any other person.
somekindafuckingidiot
same is true for every other seated person on the plane. its not up to the airline whose most valuable, its just who paid for a seat.
Isoneku
Fuck em, my dog is my a huge part of my life. I'm not risking her life for someone I don't know.
theHatredburrito
Too bad on them being too slow to buy the ticket then. We had at least a week to plan for this shit.
WhoTheFuckisGavin
What if she bought the dog ticket 2 weeks ago? Then the place was taken no matter how fast you were
MoreLikeLawlSchool
Considering not all flights out of Florida were overbooked one week ago, that's irrelevant.
theHatredburrito
So? There wasn't an emergency at that point and she paid for her tickets, good for her.
Hankenstien
My nose doesn't run. my eyes don't itch. My fucking lungs have an acute allergic reaction when I'm around dogs in closed environments...
merxman
Is it airborne, or physical contact? Genuinely curious. Because airborne, same air in the plane if they're in cargo, which is often.
shonasof
This happens to me around perfume and the clothing of smokers. God forbid I complain about it, though.
SirGrimble
Then wear a face mask? Or does that not help?
Hankenstien
a particulate half mask helps...
SomeGeographer
Same. No one gives a shit about people like us. I hate the current "pets over people" mentality in public places. My healthcare isn't cheap.
SirBrendan
I've got a disability which prohibits the denial of me or my service dog to public areas. Social conventions are complicated.
SomeGeographer
Legitimate service dogs are working animals and not just pets. I take no issue with them as they are trained & have responsible owners
Hankenstien
agreed! i would happily change my flight or take whatever means needed to keep away from someone with a service dog..
SomeGeographer
I've had to do it a few times. My Dr. letter keeps pets away from me on planes but accommodations are difficult with actual service animals
PinaColadaJellybean
did the dog act out?? looks like good doggo. plus owner paid for seat. Rosa Parks this shit #equality
PlantainSuperNova
Let's not equate a dog getting a seat to a black person fighting for their rights.
gmtarkinsmomentoftriumph
To be clear, you're comparing the struggle of African Americans for civil rights to the right to bring a dog on a plane?
PinaColadaJellybean
loosely compared not specifically to the detail. minority to have their right on their purchased passage way
nforsComputerSmuggler
#dogslivesmatter
Idsertian
How dare you post that gif, sir/madam.
nforsComputerSmuggler
If I have to hurt I'm sure as hell taking you all with me
SociopathicOtter
My ESD gets 2 fly with me, but she's kept in a carrier under the seat in front of me. Safety reasons. There are pet potties at each airport.
LandOfTheFreeBecauseOfTheBrave
Legitimate service dogs do not need a carrier. FYI.
tragluk
ESDs aren't service dogs and don't have the same protections. They're viewed as regular animals by airlines and follow the same rules.
SociopathicOtter
Yes, but if she bought her dog a ticket, I'm assuming it's not a service dog?
mambroz
I imagine if a service dog is big enough to need the space of a seat the airline is gonna make you pay.
SociopathicOtter
Some airlines do charge fees for dogs in the cabin but not a full ticket and I'm not sure this is the case? I'm not OP, so idk.
LivingDeadRose
it cost me like 175 to fly my cat coast to coast under the seat in front of me a few years ago. There were lots of rules though
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Emotional Support Dogs are dogs that provide comfort and support in forms of affection and companionship for an individual suffering from(1)
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http://usdogregistry.org/information/information-on-emotional-support-dogs/
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mental and emotional conditions. An emotional support dog is not required to perform any specific tasks for a disability like service dogs(2
WatchfulPotato
Username checks out
trekkie
Been on planes when they did it as well. Big dogs get their seats. It was a six hour coast to coast and dog was quiet
tiikki
The problem is the evacuation, the dog could have been in the cargo and human take the seat.
trekkie
Except if it hits over 80 (maybe it's 85). anywhere on trip then dog can't go and is left behind Dog probably evacuates better than people
DanBearCat
Placing pets in the cargo hold can be a 50/50 for survival. In the same situation i'd either buy my pet a seat or find another way to evac.
tiikki
Odds are more likely 2/100000
DanBearCat
No sane person would play a game of odds over their living companion's life.
Jdotz
Yeah the dog could have been in the cargo but he booked his tickets weeks before. Doggo gets a seat
GrantLeavitt
Her money, her dog. What? I'm not gonna leave my lets behind, nor would i want to risk their safety in the cargo hold.
ImportantLAMP
you are 100% right, they were put in a horrible position with the upcoming storm, this doesn't risk anyone's lives.
tiikki
But you are willing to risk life of another human as that human is being denied opportunity to evacuate on the same flight.
ImportantLAMP
explain how this risks life of another human. This literally didn't risk shit. Fuck off
rohanban10
Dogs are family. Other humans are just some strangers.
tiikki
This is were we differ. I have compassion to other human beings and understanding that pets are not humans.
tiikki
And I also know that pets can travel in the cargo.
Roruken
They can also end up dead in cargo too.
rohanban10
So can humans.
Paintmeblue
People need to stop being so concerned about what other people are doing, and start being concerned about what they themselves are doing.
Buckeyelyndsi
This is my life motto
SirBrendan
Right up until one of the passengers starts having an allergic response to the dog....
LetumComplexo
Or someone who could have been on that plane dies because the lady (understandably) didn't want her dog in the storage compartment.
joeyjojosharknado
I am concerned about what I'm doing. You would be too if you could see me.
ShowBadReply
I get it, but that mentality is flawed; "Install speed bumps to prevent a death, not after a death occurs".
scree06
oh my fucking god yes.
flavivsaetivs
I believe the saying is: "Don't worry about the splinter in their eye until you've removed your head from your ass." Or something like that.
MoreLikeLawlSchool
Do not attempt to help others with their breathing apparatus until you have affixed your own.
Falos
+1. If anyone wants original, roughly "Do not ado about the mote [of wood] in someone's eye, until you remove the [log] in yours"
Paintmeblue
Best bible quote ever
nanyatenyaa
If you have allergies or get bit by a dog who can't handle a small cramp placed filled with people... seems worth being concerned.
nanyatenyaa
Plenty of dogs can be calm for long periods on a trip sure but just as many get overwhelmed and can't stay calm...
merxman
Kinda like people :P
nanyatenyaa
Most people don't start biting other people when they are overwhelmed with excitement (and yes.. I meant to say MOST people)
nanyatenyaa
Dogs however, even well trained ones can flip a table provided too much commotion or too little space to move.
merxman
Though they do plenty of other nasty things heh but yea I hear ya. Obviously training is important, I mean, it's like kids in restaurants.
jailerjo
Amen!
Silberstaub
this
JaceCameron
I'd agree. except when It impacts OTHER people. Which this kinda does.
Paintmeblue
Not really, it looks like were empty seats on the flight anyway.
JaceCameron
I see one maybe empty seat (Person could be in the bathroom) If there were empty seats that's another story. But I assume evacuation planes
JaceCameron
Are kinda filled up with people, ya know Evacuating. Not going on holiday.
roar2O
In what way? It would be the exact same impact if that dog was a human instead.
OverpricedCrayon
Passengers with severe allergic reactions.
JaceCameron
How would it be the same impact if the dog was on her lap/the floor and I dunno another human being took the seat? This isn't a holiday 1/2
JaceCameron
Flight. It's an evacuation. People's lives are on the line. IF there were empty seats. That's another story.
TheMiseryOfOthersMakesMeHappy
And how exactly does this impact other people?
OverpricedCrayon
What if some of the passengers are allergic to dogs? Some allergic reactions can get pretty severe.
merxman
It's the same air if its an airborne allergen whether the dog is in a seat or in a cage in cargo.
JaceCameron
One less ticket/seat available for someone else. (Kinda sad I have to explain that imo)
AVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryLostDragon
There was time to plan. Pets are family. I'd do the same.
drgonzo180550
Family sure but not people. Do you care about the bugs or any other creatures? People only want to save the cute animals
BrandonMoon
Her money
bobyran
I dont think this is a real story...
ChernobylCowboy
Yes, but pets/animals doesn't belong on the seats in a plane.
Bishopcorva
Yep, I agree. May have also been a service dog and needed a seat/ticket to fly. Either way, still her money.
LaronX
Her money, but a human live goes over a an animals. She surely was desperate and the dog probably couldn't travel any different way. 1/2
LaronX
However if a person didn't get away due to that it be a shitty move by her and I wouldn't get why people are pissed. 2/2
Grimmrog
as long as peopel pay for the seats I doubt it's an emergency. because whoever charges for emergency escapes is areal buttopening
keioto
If the seat could have been used to evacuate a person the dog could & should be placed in the exit row. But there was plenty of evac flights
ChadPerry
He won't recline the seat, so I'm good with it!
bigerrors
What if someone is allergic to dogs? They paid as well to be in the plane
KrisPhoenix
and the dogs ticket.
m3lk0r333
Agreed!
Gamerdragon
Also everyone else's money. Im allergic to dogs. I'd be pissed if I had to go through a plane trip with my allergies triggered.
SidneyHarbor
http://www.ajc.com/travel/delta-passenger-bitten-emotional-support-dog-couldn-escape-says-attorney/nYtlgO1rGbVMv68XekCWUL/
socratesboytoy
Yeah amd they probably had an issue due to the size of the dog so he couldnt be anywhere else. She probs paid out of desperation.
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InvadingYourSpaces
She bought the seat for it. All the Airline staff would have watched her walk on the plane with the dog. Not a secret.
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InvadingYourSpaces
If she bought a seat, there is no weight restriction. People are just dicks to other people.
IWishIWereNotAllergicToCats
Other people have money and need seats for their children. More important than a dog. This isn't just any old flight.
canucklostinnewyork
Exactly
lexifornow
I would chip in. It would be a pleasure to sit next to a dog than most people.
metalfoto
LtColonelSmythe
I would rather sit next to the dog than some of the people I have had to sit next to on a flight.
lexifornow
I wouldn't have to fight for the arm rest. Also, when I get the arm rest, pup can put his head on my arm. Then climb over for cuddles
ElectricMoccasin
Since it's an emergency, it's ok. But as someone with allergies, I'd be livid if this happened any other time.
Upstartpotato
What if it's a service animal?
RazerRain
Then you're just a worthless little troll who is lower than shit.
drnathaniel
And a limited resource. If there were empty seats, ok. But there weren't. A person got left behind.
tiikki
Only arseholes are downvoting you.
76Tromboners
Assuming someone was left behind is not a valid argument, sir.
drnathaniel
Not an assumption. Lots of reports of people trying to get plane tickets and being unable. Evidence.
Rex83ll4t0r
Sauce pls
SavageRancor
Hmmm save my dog by paying my money for a seat or leave my dog (who I love) in a storm so a stranger can leave.... I pick my best friend
Nicalanius
Oh yeah? Did they die?
drnathaniel
Only death is a reason to value human needs over pets?
EmotionallyTransparent
If they got mad over it then get mad at the airline. Not her fault the airline agreed to it. She was just the easiest target they could see.
themooseof603
planes are a private industry they are not a public utility nor do you have any expectation to a seat, she paid for two so it's her seat
ImGonnaKickYouRightSquareInTheNeeeuutz
So what.. she paid for it. They had weeks notice to get travel arrangements.. you could have walked out of the hurricane path in that time
Fairdinkums
Ha
TraitorousTrump3
Some people can't walk 25 miles a day. For a week.
MAYORofTITTYciti
Sirmane
You do bring up an ethical argument, dog over human. That's where you fucked up. Imgur loves dogs. Plus it is her money.
Nicalanius
And humans are a bunch of cunts
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SavageRancor
People. What a bunch of bastards
nforsComputerSmuggler
BreakerMark78
Mostly because under-storage of an airplane is super unsafe for animals. End of the world scenario I'd do it too.
seattlebust
In an end of the world scenario I'd only have my dog so I'd have something to eat. Y'all are retarded.
V1V2Rotate
I work for delta... in our CRJ bins its hot and super noisy due to the APU being on the other side of the bulkhead.. hate putting animals on
ilovemyboobs
i gave my mom $500 to bring her 2lb Chihuahua on the plane cause otherwise, they were gonna have to put it UNDER with the suitcases. sick.
rooik14
Yeah with you there. If the only way I was going to get out was by plane you damn bet my dogs are coming with me onto the plane. 1/2
rooik14
2/2 That said I get some people's annoyance that the flights out were pretty damn booked meaning someone may not have gotten a ticket.
12rt2345g342563
We did it many years ago and our dog almost died. Never again. Don't ship your animals if you have any other option.
PeeFlow
I took my dog from Aus to Uk, quiet, climate controlled - no ill effects. And I would know, he's a sooky collie floof!
thelebaron
Technically cargo storage should be climate controlled, at least for pets. Ive flown my 88lb dog on united across country for moves, 1/2
thelebaron
with no ill effects(but obviously id rather she sat next to me but thats against rules w/ united). While I've heard horror stories, they 2/3
DrSparken
Having looked up the horror stories they seem to be isolated to Delta. Go with anyone else and you can be confident.
thelebaron
fly zoo animals too(after speaking with a worker whose last big animal was a lion). There are precautions to take, easily googleable.
circlebreaker
Agreed. If the cargo becomes unsecured, they get crushed by all the other stuff shifting in the hold... pet carriers = crushed tin cans
DrSparken
Pets go in a separate bay with only other pets. Large amounts of unsecured cargo also means the plane crashes, so that's not happening.
circlebreaker
When it becomes unsecured, I said. The strapping, mounting and clasps break from stress or age-related wear-and-tear.
DrSparken
And this is what happens when those break: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lksDISvCmNI So no, they're not breaking.
determinedbeacon
Why would you buy any plane tickets in an end of the world scenario lol
decimecano
why are we even living
B00TYFLAKES
To fly to magic land
TheInternetShouldHaveAClosingTimeSoICouldSleep
When it is a localized end of the world scenario that can be escaped by plane
Ansatsunin
Which would make it not an end of the world scenario.
determinedbeacon
I know, I understand that, I was really just being an asshole cause "end of the world" implies the whole world is ending
determinedbeacon
In my mind, end of the world scenario is like extinction of humans level. Giant meteor type stuff
acme64
i'd definitely get a flight outta town then
litgeek306
AKA a massive hurricane
fairybug
Seriously, how has that not been legally addressed yet? The things animals typically go through on planes is straight-up animal cruelty.
Sandoval666
Nop, there's so much paperwork to do for diseases and airlines must take care of the pets. The bad part comes when there inside the lounges
Shellzie2010
They let small animals under the seat already. And people carry more pathogens that affect ppl than animals do.
Shellzie2010
They are supposed to care for them, but animals frequently get forgotten/something gets missed and they die
Cosmogonic
give your pup a blanket or two, so he can keep himself warm. the temps in the cargo area can drop a LOT.
Ansatsunin
.. What about badly / loosely secured or even unsecured crates stacked wall-to-wall? Animal crates get jostled about a lot, also. It's BS.
Cosmogonic
no it's not. not all airliners have full insulation for weight & design reasons. if you have a problem with storage, look how the crew work.
Cosmogonic
because it's a hellish job. most of the time they are only 2 instead of 3-4 and they have TIGHT deadlines to load up&down a 4ft tall deck..
TrueNorthernLights
You never heatd about animals dying in the cargo hold by overheating?
DrSparken
Only on delta. Which tells you Delta is incompetent and everywhere else it's fine.
Ansatsunin
Hope you're being sarcastic.
TrueNorthernLights
* heard
red411
Dogs are better than a lot of people that I know
oldshot
dogs are better than the person who complained about this....Not everybody has forgotten what a "snowflake" is............
Delusional108
I wish I could upvote this forever but for now just once will have to do.
SanPedroLover
Truth
StarryPlough
Wow I genuinely feel really sorry for you
youhavejustbegunreadingthesentenceyouhavejustfinishedreading
Maybe you have an awful choice in people or a good one in dogs. Maybe both
red411
TransistorRadio
I'd rather have the dog beside me than the usual fat, smelly guys who elbow me and steal my armrest.
computerphile
Any cat/dog > random human stranger
Gerckin
Correction... dogs are the best people we know
iheartdownvotes
I would kill my own dog to save a random human
MoreLikeLawlSchool
Username checks out.
LosPer
Most people. In fucking general.
MouseBalls
Especially better than the person taking that picture getting pissed off about what others are doing that doesn't affect them.
eroso
I'd say it's very important that we get pissed off even about stuff that don't affect us personally. World would be more unjust if we didn't
StarryPlough
How do you know it doesn't affect them?
knifeface
Cuz they're good dogs Bront
bigbirdchokingonausedcondom
My dog hasn't lied constantly behind my back or tried to fuck my girlfriend. Dogs win, people suck
barnwolf
If society would properly train their humans this wouldn't be a problem. Blame the society not the species.
red411
I find my dog in bed with my wife all the time
kingofthingsd
She paid for two tickets, plus dogs are cool
Kmey
If it was for a cat then I would be upset, but this is fine. Dogs are cool.
OnlyMorphman
Better than a baby
kambojah
+
MonarchyofXolian
Maybe because it takes up a seat a person could have had, but that would be assuming a lot of things. Other than that I don't care.
WellBehavedZombie
Recirculated air and allergies are a major problem. My dad has difficulty breathing in the same space as dogs and cats, others have worse...
WellBehavedZombie
problems. If it was able to be in a location without shared air it would probably be less of a concern.
WellBehavedZombie
In addition to this, it isn't in a carrier which is one of the other requirements for travelling with pets.
DeathReaper7291
Not all dogs are cool, as long as its trained enough to not attack or piss/shit everywhere, i dont care.
kambojah
unless their owners are duchebags
OmnibusLatinName
Save the dogs, not the douche bags
MiracleWhoop
I like you.
gingen
Also isn't there a law in place that says that in times of catastrophe that animals are allowed in places not normally accepting of?
gingen
Something about if FEMA is involved or something. So animals can be kept in hotels or busses or stuff. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong?
TheMostMediocre
...People not wanting to evacuate during Katrina for fear of what would happen to their pets (ie their pets not being rescued with them)
TheMostMediocre
From what I read, it doesn't apply to private institutions like hotels but most (if not all) shelters had to accept them due to too many...
Supernerdtastic
Shelters are designated pet or not pet friendly, they're not required to accept if not pet accepting.
heirsasquatch
Dogs are cool but people should take priority over dogs in evacuation cases
PocketJuice
Fuck u and ur face... Just saying
zombiepuncher
life then. 10.
zombiepuncher
had only so.much room and left me and took the dog. i would say id hope the dog shits all over the persons house and he better live a long 9
BallsackHippo
Blame the airline, the dog could have sit on the floor for the whole flight BUT they told her that he couldn't get on board without a seat.
Jhinsanity
Take a look at where we are today and make damn sure you mean that.
Deadpoolio7
midopon
Why? People are assholes, most of the times.
MartynMage
My dog is family. Sorry to be glint but I'm going to prioritize her over strangers.
MartynMage
*blunt
strugglesnuggler
Address any complaints with Mother Nature since people process the loss of an animal the same way as a family member.
zombiepuncher
the animals over people throw everyone off the pla e fill it with birds. adults only kids need to learn. your argument is really not too 5
zombiepuncher
to buy your plane ticket earlier or plan your options. if this was a case of a group of people on a collapsing building and a helicopter.6/7
zombiepuncher
well old people shpuld stay cause they lived long enough. families should stick together so tough luck or for 4
zombiepuncher
why not just women and children then in an emergency. so anyone who like this woman wound up planning ahead for two tickets. 2.
zombiepuncher
to answer someone your question about rationale. in the same sense under your logic why is the plane full of different age groups and ...1.
MADFOX
1 Id like to get the perspective of someone experiencing the hurricane. I love dog.. but when there are limited flights in a time of danger
MADFOX
Kids, moms, dads, grandparents should be first. Just my personal opinion.
Hummingbirdbandit
You're right. But this was on the radar for weeks. There was no lack of air traffic for those who chose to leave.
zombiepuncher
logical. plus survival of the fittest rule is natures most logical opinion whether you like or not. hurricanes going to be bad might want 5
zombiepuncher
well get the united airline treatment instead of being awarded the tickets and service she paid for. and you can go on about who goes first3
TielKiri
The problem with that logic is that for anything bad to happen all planes out of Florida must be sold out which they almost certainly werent
BallsackHippo
Go tell that to Airlines. My mom is travel agent, Airlines doesn't care about people, they care about money. That plane could have been 1/2
BallsackHippo
half empty but they wouldnt take you in if you can't afford the ticket.
halosk8ingking
Heirsasquatch just know im with you. 1 human life is worth more than 1 dog life If she prevented 1 person from boarding thn thats a bad move
TielKiri
The problem with that is that for that to happen all plane rides out of Florida must be sold out, which they almost certainly weren't.
Hummingbirdbandit
They were not. If they were, the media would have eaten it up.
HodgepodgeFoxe
These people would be singing a different tune if they were the ones stuck without a seat. Or their father, wife, child, etc...
HodgepodgeFoxe
That said, my family has pets, and I know figuring out what to do would be agonizing. I couldn't just leave them.
HodgepodgeFoxe
Also, is there a shortage of flight tickets out?
shinkiro36
when it comes to limited resources people lives > dog lives. Yes she paid for it, but other people would pay for it too.
Hummingbirdbandit
I have heard nothing showing that air traffic was limited. There was plenty of time to evacuate. No one was forced to stay becayse of this.
shinkiro36
you have not been watching news.
Hummingbirdbandit
I have been. And there were weeks of warning. No excuse - if you could afford to evacuate, you had plenty of time
Botatious
I'd gladly sacrifice another human for the life of my dog.
shinkiro36
you're inhuman.
Botatious
No, i just value my dogs as family. So i will always choose them over someone i don't know.
shinkiro36
im sure for you there are others who will do the same; sacrifice you for their dog.
Botatious
Good. I hope so. If they view their dogs as their family they should do what they need to without remorse.
laestrella
So she should have left her dog? I won't leave my cat alone to go on holiday. I'd bring my cat in an emergency too
halosk8ingking
It all depends if there was a person that wanted that seat that didnt get it or not. If so they just put someone in a life threatening place
StormSaxon
Maybe they could plan ahead more. Not like a hurricane is a spur of the moment event. I don't even live in range and it was on my radar.
Rex83ll4t0r
Dogs are family members too
Nicalanius
And better than people
Rex83ll4t0r
They're all good boys . Even the girls .
superleggera101
100%
DefinitelyT0AST
The tickets weren't free. She bought the ticket for her dog the same as someone else could buy a ticket.
heirsasquatch
So, if she bought out the whole plane because she didn't like anyone else flying with her, would that ok? That's an extension of this imo
strugglesnuggler
Wouldn't a fat person also have to buy two seats? Should a fatty be prevented from buying seats? 2 seats for 1 soul vs 2 seats for 1.5 to 2
wheresthebaby
If it wasn't an emergency situation I'd say yeah.
themakerofkilts
Yes
AmSpecialSnowflake
I get where you're coming from, but that's a straw man. There were plenty of planes. Plenty of notice. What alternative do you suggest?
heirsasquatch
Wether she denies one person, or 200 because of her own interests, it's wrong in my opinion
MouseBalls
That airline company most likely gives no shits. Money is money to them, no matter who pays and who flies.
Lanesralizo
So everyone who bought a single ticket did so for their own interests, so what does it matter that the dog was in her interest.
TheCalvinintheWoods
I get what you're saying, but one seat isn't an entire airplane. You can't just extend things absurdly then call them parallel.
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SarcasticComment
...that's exactly what Hitler would say (how to win on the internet by extending insults to absurdity)
LearnSomething
The only thing I would see as an issue here is allergies. There are plenty of flights leaving Florida. It's not like there were hundreds of
ChodesNShlongs
Dogs flying in the cabin is not uncommon though.
LearnSomething
No, but they have to be in a carrier and you can request to be seated away from them.
ChodesNShlongs
I fly frequently. I see dogs with seats all the time. They can be in a carrier in a different room for cheaper price (1)
ChodesNShlongs
But I've heard that the poor climate control and oxygen systems have killed pets before.
MEfearthereaper
I'm allergic to kids
toffeecoffee
Overexposure happens. In confined spaces, some people can get allergic to even their own kids. They just look glazed over.
LurkerOfDarkness
Make sure to tell airline staff, so kids can be stowed in with the cargo.
LearnSomething
People waiting at the airport and the dog took a spot. Florida had plenty of time to evacuate and people were able to safely.
bunnnykins
So then what's the actual issue if the dog gets on the plane or not right? Esp if people had enough time to evacuate etc.
LearnSomething
Allergies. Like I said.
PatrikLilja
Allergies
XxPandaCowxX
People are cunts. Thats the only issue i see.
lovepuppy415amnd
Service dogs are allowed, so why not regular dogs? There's no difference. People need to stop complaining about everything.
Natsumori
There's a huge difference. Risk vs benefit and behavior.
Ultemus
Technically, there is a difference. Otherwise, service dogs wouldn't be called service dogs, they would just be called dogs.
LearnSomething
There is a difference. Service dogs are necessary for that person to function safely. Pet dogs are not. That's like saying you can bring
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LearnSomething
Service animals are put near the front of the plane and you can ask to be moved if you have an allergy. That's not an option if the plane
LearnSomething
Your armchair with you because disabled people can bring their wheelchair.
Kisskissfish
What about support dogs? It doesn't take much to get them registered & there's no training required. Literally companion pets in public.
acme64
NO ARMCHAIR?! http://cdn0.wideopenspaces.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/ArchieBunker-630x339.jpg
KevorkianScarf
I'm not opposed to your logic but to go back to your original argument of allergies, most service dogs are not hypoallergenic. And to put 1/
Sloppydrunkcatlady
In a normal situation I'd agree but if I'm evacuating I'm not leaving my pet behind
MushroomFiend
As a guy with pet allergies. Id be willing to take one for the team to let a doggo on the flight for evac.
TheThingThatPeopleNeverTalkAbout
Same here
Idonthavealottosay
Ty.
Natsumori
Some allergies are more severe than a sneeze. Dog kisses give me a red rash and hives. I don't mind evacing a dog, but maybe put him below?
MushroomFiend
Temperature in cargo hold can get below freezing and may lose oxygen. Any animal would die.
Renza0
Noise, pressure, and temperature, possibly oxygen, are all major issues down there. Its pretty likely the animal would be harmed.
LearnSomething
Yea, I think it would be something the airline should clear with passengers. Like designate certain planes for pets so people with severe
ireadabooktoday
Super allergic to all of nature here. It isn't the owners or the doggos fault I'm allergic. Its my job to be prepared for situations like so
LearnSomething
Allergies can choose another flight.
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mkubi
Is the thought here that she prevented another person from being able to buy a ticket and get to safety? Or just dog hating?
carrieleo750
AMEN. Duh. I'd be pissed if I could not get a ticket for one of my children...people are disgusting.
Gibbermouth
I mean, I don't know the story here but that LOOKS like an empty seat next to the person who took the photo... also if we're upset about 1
Gibbermouth
how resources could've been better used to evacuate humans, why are we not upset the airline is charging at all?
Plamf
People are thinking it prevents a human but really there were a buttload of planes going out with alot of warning time for super cheap
BionicToad
The dog was in an exit row, and clearly incapable of assisting others.
Favri
I think it's because the dog can't put on an oxygen mask in case of emergency and therefore cannot subsequently help others.
Hyero
Neither can small children or special needs people though. If trained, I can imagine a dog would be more useful in a scenario.
Favri
Or medium and big children for that matter.
rollingsixes
Lol!
sangatster
Good point Jim. And the same goes for old people. (are you running? because I'm running)
Silberstaub
Wait... when I am on a plane then people assume that I could help them when we all are falling from the sky and are going to die? xD what...
Silberstaub
I only flew once and no one told me about that XD (It was short distance)
Favri
I'm guessing you'd be the person others have to help... so just kick back and relax!!
xyrax
I think you can have your pet in a carrier and put in the pet area of the plane and let another human escape the killer hurricane.
PB458
My family's puppy was emotionally damaged from flying in the pet area. She's still skittish and nervous around men.
HitlersArtCritic
The "pet area" of the plane typically is the unsafe underside with the rest of the cargo which has killed tons of pets.
Silberstaub
Never erver give your pet in the pet area of a plane... I once had to decide between doing that or driving 9 hours by car with my cats and
ev4r
My husband and I drove our dogs to San Antonio, TX after living in Guatemala for three years. We were concerned about having to 1/2
ev4r
move elsewhere due to his work (say, Asia), and I would've died of anxiety if we'd had to fly them. 2/2
Silberstaub
I chose the car because I heard so many aweful stories about the pet areas!
Shellzie2010
The pet area is a death trap. But I'd put my 90 lb golden in my lap for however long it took if that's the only way i could get him out safe
DrSparken
It isn't. Odds of anything wrong are extremely low and limited to a couple irresponsible airlines: >
DrSparken
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/27/united-airlines-animals-deathes-more-2016-other-carrier
DasOgre
The "pet area" results in thousands of dead pets every year. It's unsafe and if you had to fly in the pet area, you'd be scarred for life
LuckyFoxx
Can confirm. It's been two years since my dogs one and only flight under the plane, and she's forever traumatized
GUVMENTCHEEZE63
Bullshit stat. 26 animals died in 2016 in cargo areas (U.S)
Hummingbirdbandit
Still unacceptable. My pets are family. I wouldn't make my children ride there, so my pets won't either
Axew
From what I read I think it was about that per airline. So still less than 1000's but significant none the less
GUVMENTCHEEZE63
Nope. Total. United is the worst with a third of the total deaths at a rate of 2.11 deaths or injuries of 10000
Octobermode
I find that really hard to believe; thousands of dead pets every year? Got to be an exaggeration. That's absolutely insane.
GUVMENTCHEEZE63
It's hard to believe because it's not true. I just looked it up. 26 pets died in in cargo areas last year in the U.S.
DasOgre
I forgot the US is the only nation with airplanes
TrueNorthernLights
Yes 26 dead animals is an acceptable number, right? /sarcasm
Stefanathanafus
Seems like most people are mad cuz of logistics and allergies, not cuz that seat could have been for a human.
Stefanathanafus
Ur comment is sixth place too.
Hummingbirdbandit
Those are points I would happily accept. The argument that a person could have had it is faulty at best - there were still flights, 1/2
Hummingbirdbandit
and ample warning. 2/2
JHawke
I'm not allergic to dogs, but if there is someone there that is just as allergic to dogs as I am to cats I would understand they get mad >
hiimprobablyhigh
I dont know about this airline but we have our customer submit their allergies and if that i s the case no pets are allowed on that flight/1
hiimprobablyhigh
And the same the other way around. Dog booked: no allergies. (English is not my native language)
JHawke
The best solution probably.
JHawke
> about it, not in hindsight but rather at that moment. You kinda lose all ability to think rationally if all you can do is sneeze.
JHawke
> note In non-evacuation scenarios, I would be against this shit eitherway.
CuttleFishOfCthulu
I would say "fuck your allergies" if I was rescuing my pet. Also, pets in flights is legal. No rules against support animals.
Stratego89
The only 2 real potential issues here are 1. Allergies (the more serious problem) and 2. what happens when the doggo needs to make a doodoo.
PacificKnight
it's very common to have pets fly. Southwest allows smaller dogs as long as they fit under the seat in front of you in approved carriers.
PacificKnight
my dog has flown more than a lot of people I know haha.
ireadabooktoday
I'm super allergic and consider it my job to be prepared for animal run ins. I won't put others out bc of my allergies if it can be avoided
ShadowCleric
Well there is also the chance that just the fact someone bought that seat for a dog, it left a person who now couldn't book that seat
Hummingbirdbandit
There was so much warning to evacuate. That's not even a little probable.
Hummingbirdbandit
Understand the sentiment, but there was no halt in air traffic until the storm hit. If you were still there by then, it was by choice
ihavenoanswers
2/2 be seated further away.
poppy785610
I have no problem with this
notusafanotsarah
doggo probably thinks he's inside won't do the doodoo
Sm9yCg
Solution is simple: Ask the other passengers what their allergies are at the boarding gate. If noone mentions Dogs, then they are good.
batlrar
Also it's one fewer seat that a human could have been sitting in, but I guess that all depends on how a human compares to a dog.
sandybuttcheeks
If it's a short flight the doodoo wouldn't be an issue
ihavenoanswers
1/2 Dogs fly on planes all the time. Service animals, pets, emotional support animals. If you have an allergy, you declare it and arrange to
Tcob2031
Then a clean up in aisle 2
GreenAce92
A centipede detaches and receives a quick meal, then quickly reattaches back to the anus
twaldma2
Just close your eyes. You don't see dog, dog no allergy you.
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poppy785610
Ahhhh poor baby let them walk dogs are better than most people lol
DishonorablyDischargedGrammerNazi
Fuck humans.
poppy785610
There you go
SomeOwls
Feed it to the upsetti people
sombrerohorsewagon
Fucking peanuts
ICallBullshit
Deez Pnee Zuts!
tucker148
3 issues, the third being people with serious phobias/psychological issues around dogs. “Legitimate” issues or not, they can be crippling
StormSaxon
Considering the nasty stuff people do on planes, a dog is the least of your worries.
BiggestAndReddest
They were evacuating, people probably pissed because it meant a person couldn't get on to evacuate. That said, I'd bring my dog.
OopsieDaiseys
You can't make everyone happy. There are going to be people who get allergic reactions to things, it happens. I start hacking my lungs out>
OopsieDaiseys
OopsieDaiseys
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MaurogDark
I'm allergic to humans, can I fly on a plane with only dogs?
ItsjustmeOneThree
If my pitbull doesn't feel like getting up from her 15 hour nap.. that's how long she waits to go OUTSIDE. My pug on the other hand....(1)
ItsjustmeOneThree
Wherever she feels like going. (2)
LetumComplexo
The third potential issue is that it's a dog taking a seat that a person could have taken. Null if the plane had empty seats.
Iouzip
I agree with you with your first point. Frankly I'm kind of cheesed that I'm seeing the people commenting are oblivious to that fact.
IamTheTeapot
1) The allergy argument isn't really much of an argument. Even in non-emergency situations dogs would be allowed on planes in the cabin.
IamTheTeapot
2) If you have a severe allergy, there's a good chance you would know this and take the proper precautions or avoid flying.
IamTheTeapot
3) I mean that's a fact of life that every allergic person lives with. What this person did is not that strange.
Rabinu
People who are allergic tu dog need to be in contact with them. And depending on the flight, dog can go a long time whitout bathroom break
SomeGeographer
Yea that would send people to the hospital. Allergies do not work like that. Fuck off with your false information.
Rabinu
... wut i'm alergic to cat and dog. Has long has i dont totch them there are no issue.
SomeGeographer
So am I & I have been for the last 30 years. Contact with them send me to the hospital. It also causes people with asthma to have attacks.
Hummingbirdbandit
...which is wht we have inhalers, epi-pens, and benadryl. You are in a public space. It is our job to prepare for those things, not 1/?
Stratego89
You're working under the assumption that just because that's how it is for YOU that that's how it is for OTHERS. Which is bloody stupid.
Rabinu
And since they serve peanut in every freaking flight. Tell me again how a dog would be worst alergie wise ?
Rabinu
Which are extremely rare where you will go into anaphylapic shock.
Rabinu
I working under the assemtion that you dont go into a anaphylapic reaction when not in contact with an alergen, specialy dog and cat.
76Tromboners
I sat right behind a dog on a plane once and he/she was the most well behaved passenger
demoncandy
I'd take a dog passenger over an obnoxious kid or screaming baby any day!
Insomnia297
It's not inhumane to not feed a dog for a day ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hummingbirdbandit
...yes. Yes it is. Would you starve a child, locked in a hpuse where they can't access food? The can go a day without food, too.
Insomnia297
Starve? For a day? Are you saying surgery is off the table then?
Hummingbirdbandit
I - what? I don't understand what surgery has to do with this?
Insomnia297
You don't get to eat before surgery.
stopitlucas
My dog can go 12 hours easy.
tswr
My dog literally goes once every 12 hours, he's been that was since I got him as a pup, as for allergies, they will be fine.
EnzoGlitch
People throat can close up from allergies
Hummingbirdbandit
And mine can close up if I go up the stairs too fast, or if someone raises their voice. You prepare and move on. If your allergies are 1/?
Hummingbirdbandit
so bad you cant handle it, offer to switch to a later flight. There was plenty of warning, and if people didnt wait til last minute, 2/?
Hummingbirdbandit
then they had plenty of time to work with. 3/3
CheshirePhoenix
The bigger concern is how they handle the pressure change. It can play merry cob hell with human ears, let alone doggo ears.
tswr
I've always wondered that
FuckYourWainscottingCarol
They can handle it fine. It's the same as a human. Some may be more bothered than others but generally it's just a small irritation
CheshirePhoenix
That's the worry. When a dog or a baby gets bothered like that it cries, and dogs don't get distracted by pacifiers like babies do.
JHawke
Distracted? The sucking helps with equalising :p. Same way chewing gum helps. though slowly exhaling and closing your nose is best
CheshirePhoenix
Don't do that, it can damage your hearing. Best bet is either to yawn or ask your stewardess for a steam cup. Pacifiers settle crying babies
FuckYourWainscottingCarol
I've flown with multiple dogs in the cabin. Never had an issue plus dogs can be soothed like a baby with pets and soft words.
CheshirePhoenix
I've flown with, I think, three? And of those three, one of them was having NOTHING to do with being soothed. The other two were ok though.
ImnotAllowedtoPostPublicly
what if dog shits and owner doesn't wipe asshole. that seat is now contaminated with fecal mater. Now, imagine your baby sitting on seat.
ME2G
My kid plays in public play areas all the time. She's touched worse bacteria than micro bits of dog poo. She's still alive.
SalsaCat
The only issue I see with this, is that she's taking up a seat someone else might have needed.
EricBetts
Sadly, seats are sold based on need, but on price. How cool would that be though?
demoncandy
What's the other option? Crate the dog under the plane or leave it behind?
Jdotz
Perhaps there weren't enough desperate humans trying to fight for a ticket if the airline isn't regulating this.....
Sheldonian
As any other healthy passenger there
SalsaCat
Did you mean as much as any other passenger there? If so I have to disagree, a dog could ride in other parts of the plane.
SalsaCat
And if I had to choose between a person's life and a dog's, I have to go with the person almost every time.
TyrantJester
The cargo hold isn't guaranteed safe for animals. That being said, if I pay for two seats on an airplane, they are my seats. If you don't 1/
poppy785610
She paid for the seat
XrectifyX
Otherwise if this wasn't an evacuation going on, 100% I agree she paid for two seats. But I also do not think she should leave dog behind3/3
XrectifyX
Like 5 flights because they overbooked and every flight out was full, they ended up having to drive South Carolina from Florida for a flight
XrectifyX
While I would agree with you, there were problems getting enough people on flights out of Florida. My parents had to rebook something 1/2
tossabeertoyourwitcher
Yes, but if you were evacuating a dangerous situation, would you be annoyed that you couldn't get a ticket bc someone faster than you got 2?
tossabeertoyourwitcher
So it'd be great if the dog could be transported NOT in a seat. But the dog is safe now... just makes it a sticky situation
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EnzoGlitch
That's like saying oh you're deathly allergic to peanut butter? Just take a Benadryl.
Hummingbirdbandit
If you anaphylax, you carry an epi-pen. People with allergies learn to prepare for situations like this.
Stratego89
An epi-pen is a stop-gap measure to keep you from dying from anaphylactic shock. It does not cover you for extended periods of time nitwit.
Hummingbirdbandit
I am not a nitwit. I know this. I'm saying that people with allergies have plans for coming across their allergens.
FuckYourWainscottingCarol
Service animals trump allergies. I get that isn't what's happening in this picture but dogs are allowed to fly in the cabin and allergies...
HighlandPotatoe
Depends on the severity of the allergy.
blitherypoop
I had an asthma attack because of a seeing eye dog when I was 12. The blind guy and I both felt really bad about it.
FuckYourWainscottingCarol
Aren't a reason to not allow an animal on a flight.
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SomeGeographer
You do realize that people can die from an allergic reaction right? One legitimate medical issue does not trump another.
FuckYourWainscottingCarol
Gee golly thanks for that factoid. Look up the law, it's not a personal opinion. I'm talking about service animals legally being on planes.
SomeGeographer
That's why they are limited in number on flights & bigger breads are restricted to 1st row. Not on a seats or out in the open in other rows.
dragonfliet
Fuck off. This isn't a service animal, so people not suffering trumps a person wanting their dog next to them.
ajstl89
Nope fuck you. Survival of the fittest.
FuckYourWainscottingCarol
Or you could read what I said. I'm only stating that in the cases of service animals, you can't deny them due to allergies. So even if ..
FuckYourWainscottingCarol
There wasn't a dog on the specific flight I guarantee you that hundreds of dogs have been and there's still fur floating around.
Stratego89
This is ofc assuming the doggo is a well trained and behaved goodboy and not a "I'm not going to shut up for a god damn second" goodboy.
CongratsYouAreHereNow
people aren't well trained and behaved on planes all the fucking time. this lady is saving a family member, fuck the twitterer
FlatPlutoSociety
Mine would not make any noise. She would, however, get SUPER excited by all the people want want to lick everyone.
governmentgavemeagun
forte10
Your baby? Oh. New conversation. Sorry, it's too early in the morning for thinking.
DemonicCarnage
Babies.
Foamythesquirrel
This. More people need to say this.
ForgotMyOtherAcct
Yeah, they shouldn't be allowed on planes either. About half kidding
0100100101111010011011000110000101101011
Babies are generally seen as more important than dogs since they're human.
Stratego89
There's a difference between babies and doggos in that babies can't be trained to not make noise.
YurgenGrimwood
Just because they can't help it they should be allowed but others not? I would get rare outliers and diseases, but that's not the case.
ForgotMyOtherAcct
They can, it just takes additional years. Eventually they can even be trained to buy their own ticket.
Sventhy
They can, it just take a few years.
vaktmastare
And thus you should not take a baby on a flight until it's a few years old. /s
EveryNameIsTakenDammit
So what you're saying is that doggos are better than babies. Gotcha.
LandOfTheFreeBecauseOfTheBrave
Yeah, dogs can be trained to wait a few hours to go to the bathroom. FYI.
minkuschild
My dog has easily gone 12 hours without going outside. I leave him home alone for 4 hours max, its just, he can hold it.
FeChefImgur
Dogs can go a whole day if you need them to. We regularly leave our dogs in the house for 2-3 hours by themselves with no messes.
intashu
Case and point. Dogs often spend hours at home not making a mess. Planes wouldn't be hard just based on time.
BiggerOstrich
My dad's 2 little peekapoos go 8 hrs by themselves daily
Tanishh
Such an odd statement. Pretty much everyone with dogs has left them alone for at least 2-3 hrs - they're dogs, not chocolate ice cream
Tanishh
dispensers with the switch stuck on. Also, you claim dogs can go 24 hrs then as evidence cite 2-3 hrs for your dogs. That's like saying it's
Tanishh
possible to lift 1000 lbs and you've lifted 100 before.
FeChefImgur
Well, I was responding to the person that thought the dog may need to go to the toilet on the plane, just used that timeframe as an example.
loosechalk
Yeah my brother has really bad asthma and is severely allergic to dogs. With that combo if he's anywhere near a dog his throat closes up....
Yumbledore
There are people who are super allergic to perfume. They take allergy meds with them.
DoctorEnsignCrusher
Well don't pass that on
bldl
At the same time dogs are super common, does he carry an epi pen?
0100100101111010011011000110000101101011
My assumption is that it would be mostly OK outside because all the allergens would be a lot more spread out and diluted than inside a room.
DrSparken
Which would also apply here, as aircraft have extremely good forced-circulation and hospital-grade air filters.
APOkl
Was your brother on the plane?
Tozlaheb
What if the dog is allergic to humans? Nobody thought aboot that? I'm allergic to most humans too! Unconsidered people all over the place.
EricBetts
Would a face mask help? Also, how is he still alive, considering all the places dogs are brought?
eeeeeehhhhhhhhh
I am asthmatic when near dogs and my solution to this would be to dose up on benadryl and hope the dog is far away. A Mask would help 1/
eeeeeehhhhhhhhh
Goggles can help too, but it wouldn't fix all. Really, avoiding dogs where there is a indef. amt of clean air is easier out of a plane 2/
ireadabooktoday
Super allergic here. Its our job to be prepared for situations. I carry allergy meds and epipens with me always. It isn't doggos fault
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YurgenGrimwood
Completely true. People shouln't have to comprimise because of a specific persons problems. People could be thoughtful, but in the end-
YurgenGrimwood
It's not everyone else who's allergic, it's the one person. And they are the ones who should compromise with meds and epipens.
JHawke
That exact same argument goes either way though. Why should he have to prepare because she wants a dog. Do you know how we feel drugged up?>
JHawke
> it feels extremely shit, and I would accept it for an evacuation in hindsight. But I would be extremely against it normally.
arwenslartibartfast
Me too. That scenario could see me in hospital if I'm lucky
LunaPz
What would you do if there was a service dog pin the plane?
Hummingbirdbandit
Have an epi-pen/inhaler if you know your allergies are that bad. Like you would anywhere else in life there may be an allergu trigger
0100100101111010011011000110000101101011
IIRC one problem is that an epipen is generally used to delay a reaction until you can get to a hospital rather than negating the reaction.
arwenslartibartfast
That's never happened so I'm not sure. They seem to be a more common in the US
arwenslartibartfast
I guess different flight or section depending on the plane