Mar 5, 2019 3:38 PM
AmeliaBeloved
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Raoin
World War I & II are just 2 wars in a rich history of human conflict.
kthnxbye
Okay looking at your other posts, it all becomes clear. There are better ways of getting people to talk to you, you know.
TestAccount321
But nary can an hour pass on imgur without trying to wag it's finger at black people.
Klerk246
*me reading looking at comments with threads*
IBentMyWookie
I’m just gonna sit back and read the comments
Anthroposapien
But it’s one of the most recent for everyone living today & is still affecting underlying tones of racial discrimination in & out of the US.
apercent
Right because black slavery is no longer relevant in any way. All those problems ended with the 13th amendment
AllTheMemes1
https://youtu.be/q-KUbflnMEs
iamdanman
It was slavery in America though
TheGinge2010
*Lisa Simpson. Marge is the mother
Someone else pointed that out. I confess I've never actually watched the show.
onikame
Slavery not being the norm in the world is still pretty new. But we've had a few generations of people who never knew a slave, which is nice
MinorityOpinion
Hmmm. I'm not sure "rich" is the right word for a long and widespread history of human cruelty.
All human history is a record of human cruelty, so eh.
Yeah? But not in AMERICAN HISTORY where BLACK AMERICANS are still feeling the affects of it today!
iwarthan59
gabbagabbaray
A small part yes, but we perfected it
InfinitiOcho
Reparations are being brought up as an issue in the US. What do y'all think?
That people are very enthusiastic about getting free money for doing nothing.
PutThePRNDLinD
"Slaves: Getting shit done since....like forever." -- OP.
I'm OP and I support this message.
Irishda
Colonialism had the greatest impact in modern history and the effects continue today
Genghis Khan once conquered most of the known Earth.
Most of Asia* Hence why his impact in the Western World is severely diminished
Uh. Except it included like half of Europe.
Except it wasn't half. It was southeastern Europe and parts of Hungary and Poland. Last I checked that's not the west
asificareokido
Now we’re all enslaved by technology
You can just put the phone and stop being a cunt about it. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean no one else can
Not about like or dislike. It’s an observation.
LimyMage918
Yeah but I think I'm ok with this kinda slavery as long as interwebs here keeps showing me pictures of dogs
bertmacklinfbi01
So edgy. So deep.
Slavery isn't a small chapter of human society. Slavery continued until the 20th century legally.
...Did you even read the meme?
Even non withstanding that this post is an obvious hit on chattel slavery, colonialism only existed for as long as chattel slavery and look
At how much of an effect it had on the world. The literally borders of the majority of the world are determined by what happened in the
Last 400 years. To dismiss chattel slavery as being irrelevant is ignorant, even if it was a small part of history.
Just for two cents: when you say this people assume you are just comparing one thing to the other, which is fine. But it also changes (1)
The conversation and kinda defends, albeit not purposefully, the side that slavery in America wasn't bad because slavery was always bad (2)
Starts to sound like people really shouldn't complain about their ancestors being sold and owned because someone has done it before (3)
This might not be the intention of a person pointing out slavery has existed for millennia, but it's what others take from their stance (4)
Tom killed some kids in 1701. Doesn't mean we should stop talking about Bob because he killed a bunch of slightly older kids in 1992 (5)
Can't discount one because there is a history of kids being killed my 3 letter named men. Both are bad and they should be treated as such(6)
Small in scales of time. Sure. But the African slave trade by the 1800's was essentially a industrialized, mass trasport of slaves.
And?
Destro2077
OK but there is a difference between slavery and chattel slavery.
Slavery by law has been culturally accepted worldwide for most of human history.
MostlyDinosaurs
Yes but we are the first democratic society continuing to deal with the ramifications of it, and the open oppression of those ppl thereafter
ialwaysexpectthespanishinqusition
Ever heard of Denmark?
What? What part of that do you take issue with?
The part where the whole thing is completely wrong.
it isn't though, many European countries freed their slaves, but before they were democracies. And they didn't have active laws in place...
to openly oppress the people relieved from servitude. As we had laws that prevented black people from voting, owning land, even renting...
Kissmyshinydafodilass
This is like saying other people have it worse than you, so don’t feel bad. Ffs
No, it's like saying slaves are slaves and race is irrelevant.
But is race really irrelevant? There’s a reason African slaves were used rather than Europeans in the US
There was a made up reason.There is a made up reason to justify all evil.Race was picked for convenience.There isn't more to it than that.
Y I K E S. Read a book there, bud.
I write the books.
ICanChangeMyNameLater
I'm not sure what this is trying to say.
PhillipaTraum
For as long as humanity has existed, so has slavery. Vikings had slaves, Romans had slaves, Muslims had slaves. It's not an American concept
cinderspires
who said its an American concept? slavery has been a pretty big part of American history, a civil war was fought for it ffs. don't spout 1/
idiotic shit
ThePanzerSchreck
He means it's not only an American concept but happend all over the world, and every race did it to others and to themselves.
and?
joe6paques
I am.
Please explain it for me? Thanks.
DamnedAustin
"Black people shouldn't complain about slavery in the U.S. or the historical fallout that came as a result because.........."
Nonsense, everyone can complain about whatever they want. "Those damn vikings and their rape!" Doesn't mean it's relevant to anything.
It is relevant (in the U.S., anyway) I think you pretend to have a better understanding of history than you actually do...
Ok so the "black/white" means blacks as slaves to whites? That's what got me confused. I didn't know what it meant.
Exactly.
FirelinkShrineIsHome
But it's the biggest issue still affecting our racial culture in the US. This is just an attempt to downplay and delegitimize that fact.
Also, that's Lisa - not Marge.
JewPeter
It isn't. Our biggest issue is a slew of cultures that are like water and oil. They don't mix because they don't have enough in common.
They don't need to mix, but we could definitely respect each other a lot better than some of us currently do.
I don't disagree, at least not with the last part. If cultures are unable to mix they do not have a history if living peacefully side x side
There's also racism against whites, Asians, Hispanics, and Arabs today in America. Wanna blame slavery for that, too?
Well, if you treat a whole race of people like shit for several hundred years some will do it back. Slavery was justified by calling them
an inferior race. That's the attitude that lingers today. If you can't see that then you're not looking.
Racism exists for a lot of reasons. The attitudes that allowed hundreds of years of slavery are still affecting is today, but there are
other causes as well. It's not as simple as you'd like to believe.
The only thing affecting 'racial culture in the US' are people who use phrases like 'racial culture.'
Nope.
You are the source of racism.
Keep telling yourself that.
The truth? I do, yes. No trying is necessary, it comes naturally.
SaraFourImgur
I bet you "don't see color."
I definitely see it. In the US black street culture is actively doing its best to squander the human potential of the race. It's disgusting.
I'm just gonna let that comment speak for itself.
Black communities have a disproportionate amount of children born out of wedlock, and single motherhood is the biggest indicator of poverty.
That's fine. I stand by it.
Loveshead2
And still the erroneous concepts behind the justifications for chattel slavery continue to fool the feebleminded.
[deleted]
https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Confederate_States_of_America I’ll leave this here since @theofficegifter makes up fake shit then blocks me
Yeah downvote everything that doesn’t fit your narrative. That’s intelligent and honest. 2+2 is 4. And America enslaved Blacks b/c they/1
were considered inferior. Completely different than most other episodes of slavery. Sorry you hate the truth so much. Ironically, no one/2
would be discussing slavery except you decided to try and play revisionist history. /3
http://tjrs.monticello.org/letter/1314 that’s one from Jefferson disingenuous @TheOfficeGiffer said there was no evidence. What a liar!
When you make BS false claims and then block me so I can’t post the clear contradictory evidence, it’s not an honest disagreement.
What’s your point? Chattel slavery was justified by the concept that blacks are inhuman. Those justifications led to segregation and Jim/1
Crow. This distinguishes chattel slavery from most other forms of slavery and the remnants of that philosophy unquestionably remains in/2
White Supremacists. There are theses written about it. Most other forms of slavery weren’t distinguished by race (a largely social/3
Construct). But when you justify slavery by saying you are superior to Jews, Serbs, and blacks for example, ending slavery doesn’t/4
In the United States, for a very brief time, that was indeed a convenient excuse. There is always an excuse.
Excuse for what exactly? What do you think I’m trying to excuse?
People who enslave others, historically and presently, use excuses. Race was indeed one of them. All of them are equally nonsensical.
LaCroixJenkins
But... But.... The race card
Which one? Draw 4? Always hated that /a/29bfz0P
Reverse in conjunction... Is so much worse...
WowThatUsernameIsSoOriginal
Come on... In the US white/black slavery is the one that is culturally relevant.
DeadGremlin
Hey Americans we know you're great and all but there's more to the world than just you - sincerely, the countries smart enough to use metric
If someone uses the expression "race card" chances are it is an American.
What? That's not exclusive to America.
Mohead12
Yea because people seem to want to bring that shit into it every time they don’t get their way
Daehkcid93
How? I though that the current 46 million slaves would have been more culturally relevant
It should be more relevant, probably. Unfortunately that is not how the world works.
Ah someone's feeling matter more than facts. The American slave trade was only 12.5 million, currently the slave trade is 46 million
well, 12.5 million out of an estimated 1.1 billion is a higher proportion than 46 million out of an estimated 7 billion.
But they key differences, slavery was legal then and is illegal now
Yes, something that ended over 100 years ago is still super relevant today.
Lots of things that ended more than 100 years ago are still relevant today.
Well, after slavery we had segregation and Jim Crow that went MUCH later (up till about 2 generations ago) and you don't honestly believe(1)
that the country collectively fixed race relations when those ended, right? Pretending like the effects of slavery and horrendous (2)
billymayscocainestash
The racists on this site always show their hand in the most subtle ways
treatment of an entire race of people magically vanished when the laws changed is childishly naive (at best). (3/3)
MissingImage
And black/black slavery still happens horrifically today... In Africa.
chrisman01
And most slave owners are Muslim got my account suspended for posting truths like this
WOO I'M BACK BABY
All slavery of all kinds still happens everywhere, just usually in the shadows.
DuelDoubleUnderscore
Not only in the shadows. China tries to hide it but it’s like throwing a tarp over a car.
TheStealthHippopotamus
Well black/black slavery is actually how many slaves started black/white slavery.
No it isn't. Colonial attitudes did
Donvah
That doesn't sound right. But I'm willing to hear you out. Please share knowledge.
Abridged: White people went to Africa, black people had slaves, white people said, "Give me some of that.", black people said, "Sure, buy!"
Oh ok. I misunderstood your precious comment which is why I wanted clarification. Thank you. Also look at Brazillian slave trade. Brutal
yeah. Shockingly accurate for under 140 characters.
Ha. Thanks. I think I picked the right career.
Perfectlynormalhumanbieng
And there it is, always back to blacks. White people be like "blacks made us enslave them!"
Suck my dick jack
Made them? No, but without help of the local tribe it wouldn't have been possible. Well possible, but not profitable.
Did they also make them exclusively have black slaves and also make laws and bibles ensuring blacks to be inferior too?
I have no idea who "they" and "them" are in your post. But nowhere on earth/time did your skin color save you from being a slave.
Raoin
World War I & II are just 2 wars in a rich history of human conflict.
kthnxbye
Okay looking at your other posts, it all becomes clear. There are better ways of getting people to talk to you, you know.
TestAccount321
But nary can an hour pass on imgur without trying to wag it's finger at black people.
Klerk246
*me reading looking at comments with threads*
IBentMyWookie
I’m just gonna sit back and read the comments
Anthroposapien
But it’s one of the most recent for everyone living today & is still affecting underlying tones of racial discrimination in & out of the US.
apercent
Right because black slavery is no longer relevant in any way. All those problems ended with the 13th amendment
AllTheMemes1
https://youtu.be/q-KUbflnMEs
iamdanman
It was slavery in America though
TheGinge2010
*Lisa Simpson. Marge is the mother
AmeliaBeloved
Someone else pointed that out. I confess I've never actually watched the show.
onikame
Slavery not being the norm in the world is still pretty new. But we've had a few generations of people who never knew a slave, which is nice
MinorityOpinion
Hmmm. I'm not sure "rich" is the right word for a long and widespread history of human cruelty.
AmeliaBeloved
All human history is a record of human cruelty, so eh.
TestAccount321
Yeah? But not in AMERICAN HISTORY where BLACK AMERICANS are still feeling the affects of it today!
iwarthan59
gabbagabbaray
A small part yes, but we perfected it
InfinitiOcho
Reparations are being brought up as an issue in the US. What do y'all think?
AmeliaBeloved
That people are very enthusiastic about getting free money for doing nothing.
PutThePRNDLinD
"Slaves: Getting shit done since....like forever." -- OP.
AmeliaBeloved
I'm OP and I support this message.
Irishda
Colonialism had the greatest impact in modern history and the effects continue today
AmeliaBeloved
Genghis Khan once conquered most of the known Earth.
Irishda
Most of Asia* Hence why his impact in the Western World is severely diminished
AmeliaBeloved
Uh. Except it included like half of Europe.
Irishda
Except it wasn't half. It was southeastern Europe and parts of Hungary and Poland. Last I checked that's not the west
asificareokido
Now we’re all enslaved by technology
apercent
You can just put the phone and stop being a cunt about it. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean no one else can
asificareokido
Not about like or dislike. It’s an observation.
LimyMage918
Yeah but I think I'm ok with this kinda slavery as long as interwebs here keeps showing me pictures of dogs
bertmacklinfbi01
So edgy. So deep.
apercent
Slavery isn't a small chapter of human society. Slavery continued until the 20th century legally.
AmeliaBeloved
...Did you even read the meme?
apercent
Even non withstanding that this post is an obvious hit on chattel slavery, colonialism only existed for as long as chattel slavery and look
apercent
At how much of an effect it had on the world. The literally borders of the majority of the world are determined by what happened in the
apercent
Last 400 years. To dismiss chattel slavery as being irrelevant is ignorant, even if it was a small part of history.
Klerk246
Just for two cents: when you say this people assume you are just comparing one thing to the other, which is fine. But it also changes (1)
Klerk246
The conversation and kinda defends, albeit not purposefully, the side that slavery in America wasn't bad because slavery was always bad (2)
Klerk246
Starts to sound like people really shouldn't complain about their ancestors being sold and owned because someone has done it before (3)
Klerk246
This might not be the intention of a person pointing out slavery has existed for millennia, but it's what others take from their stance (4)
Klerk246
Tom killed some kids in 1701. Doesn't mean we should stop talking about Bob because he killed a bunch of slightly older kids in 1992 (5)
Klerk246
Can't discount one because there is a history of kids being killed my 3 letter named men. Both are bad and they should be treated as such(6)
Raoin
Small in scales of time. Sure. But the African slave trade by the 1800's was essentially a industrialized, mass trasport of slaves.
AmeliaBeloved
And?
Destro2077
OK but there is a difference between slavery and chattel slavery.
AmeliaBeloved
Slavery by law has been culturally accepted worldwide for most of human history.
MostlyDinosaurs
Yes but we are the first democratic society continuing to deal with the ramifications of it, and the open oppression of those ppl thereafter
ialwaysexpectthespanishinqusition
Ever heard of Denmark?
AmeliaBeloved
MostlyDinosaurs
What? What part of that do you take issue with?
AmeliaBeloved
The part where the whole thing is completely wrong.
MostlyDinosaurs
it isn't though, many European countries freed their slaves, but before they were democracies. And they didn't have active laws in place...
MostlyDinosaurs
to openly oppress the people relieved from servitude. As we had laws that prevented black people from voting, owning land, even renting...
Kissmyshinydafodilass
This is like saying other people have it worse than you, so don’t feel bad. Ffs
AmeliaBeloved
No, it's like saying slaves are slaves and race is irrelevant.
Kissmyshinydafodilass
But is race really irrelevant? There’s a reason African slaves were used rather than Europeans in the US
AmeliaBeloved
There was a made up reason.There is a made up reason to justify all evil.Race was picked for convenience.There isn't more to it than that.
Kissmyshinydafodilass
Y I K E S. Read a book there, bud.
AmeliaBeloved
I write the books.
ICanChangeMyNameLater
I'm not sure what this is trying to say.
PhillipaTraum
For as long as humanity has existed, so has slavery. Vikings had slaves, Romans had slaves, Muslims had slaves. It's not an American concept
cinderspires
who said its an American concept? slavery has been a pretty big part of American history, a civil war was fought for it ffs. don't spout 1/
cinderspires
idiotic shit
ThePanzerSchreck
He means it's not only an American concept but happend all over the world, and every race did it to others and to themselves.
cinderspires
and?
joe6paques
I am.
ICanChangeMyNameLater
Please explain it for me? Thanks.
DamnedAustin
"Black people shouldn't complain about slavery in the U.S. or the historical fallout that came as a result because.........."
AmeliaBeloved
Nonsense, everyone can complain about whatever they want. "Those damn vikings and their rape!" Doesn't mean it's relevant to anything.
DamnedAustin
It is relevant (in the U.S., anyway) I think you pretend to have a better understanding of history than you actually do...
ICanChangeMyNameLater
Ok so the "black/white" means blacks as slaves to whites? That's what got me confused. I didn't know what it meant.
joe6paques
Exactly.
FirelinkShrineIsHome
But it's the biggest issue still affecting our racial culture in the US. This is just an attempt to downplay and delegitimize that fact.
FirelinkShrineIsHome
Also, that's Lisa - not Marge.
JewPeter
It isn't. Our biggest issue is a slew of cultures that are like water and oil. They don't mix because they don't have enough in common.
FirelinkShrineIsHome
They don't need to mix, but we could definitely respect each other a lot better than some of us currently do.
JewPeter
I don't disagree, at least not with the last part. If cultures are unable to mix they do not have a history if living peacefully side x side
bertmacklinfbi01
There's also racism against whites, Asians, Hispanics, and Arabs today in America. Wanna blame slavery for that, too?
FirelinkShrineIsHome
Well, if you treat a whole race of people like shit for several hundred years some will do it back. Slavery was justified by calling them
FirelinkShrineIsHome
an inferior race. That's the attitude that lingers today. If you can't see that then you're not looking.
FirelinkShrineIsHome
Racism exists for a lot of reasons. The attitudes that allowed hundreds of years of slavery are still affecting is today, but there are
FirelinkShrineIsHome
other causes as well. It's not as simple as you'd like to believe.
AmeliaBeloved
The only thing affecting 'racial culture in the US' are people who use phrases like 'racial culture.'
kthnxbye
Nope.
AmeliaBeloved
You are the source of racism.
kthnxbye
Keep telling yourself that.
AmeliaBeloved
The truth? I do, yes. No trying is necessary, it comes naturally.
SaraFourImgur
I bet you "don't see color."
AmeliaBeloved
I definitely see it. In the US black street culture is actively doing its best to squander the human potential of the race. It's disgusting.
SaraFourImgur
I'm just gonna let that comment speak for itself.
bertmacklinfbi01
Black communities have a disproportionate amount of children born out of wedlock, and single motherhood is the biggest indicator of poverty.
AmeliaBeloved
That's fine. I stand by it.
Loveshead2
And still the erroneous concepts behind the justifications for chattel slavery continue to fool the feebleminded.
[deleted]
[deleted]
Loveshead2
https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Confederate_States_of_America I’ll leave this here since @theofficegifter makes up fake shit then blocks me
Loveshead2
Yeah downvote everything that doesn’t fit your narrative. That’s intelligent and honest. 2+2 is 4. And America enslaved Blacks b/c they/1
Loveshead2
were considered inferior. Completely different than most other episodes of slavery. Sorry you hate the truth so much. Ironically, no one/2
Loveshead2
would be discussing slavery except you decided to try and play revisionist history. /3
Loveshead2
http://tjrs.monticello.org/letter/1314 that’s one from Jefferson disingenuous @TheOfficeGiffer said there was no evidence. What a liar!
Loveshead2
When you make BS false claims and then block me so I can’t post the clear contradictory evidence, it’s not an honest disagreement.
Loveshead2
What’s your point? Chattel slavery was justified by the concept that blacks are inhuman. Those justifications led to segregation and Jim/1
Loveshead2
Crow. This distinguishes chattel slavery from most other forms of slavery and the remnants of that philosophy unquestionably remains in/2
Loveshead2
White Supremacists. There are theses written about it. Most other forms of slavery weren’t distinguished by race (a largely social/3
Loveshead2
Construct). But when you justify slavery by saying you are superior to Jews, Serbs, and blacks for example, ending slavery doesn’t/4
AmeliaBeloved
In the United States, for a very brief time, that was indeed a convenient excuse. There is always an excuse.
Loveshead2
Excuse for what exactly? What do you think I’m trying to excuse?
AmeliaBeloved
People who enslave others, historically and presently, use excuses. Race was indeed one of them. All of them are equally nonsensical.
LaCroixJenkins
But... But.... The race card
IBentMyWookie
Which one? Draw 4? Always hated that /a/29bfz0P
LaCroixJenkins
Reverse in conjunction... Is so much worse...
WowThatUsernameIsSoOriginal
Come on... In the US white/black slavery is the one that is culturally relevant.
AmeliaBeloved
DeadGremlin
Hey Americans we know you're great and all but there's more to the world than just you - sincerely, the countries smart enough to use metric
WowThatUsernameIsSoOriginal
If someone uses the expression "race card" chances are it is an American.
DeadGremlin
What? That's not exclusive to America.
Mohead12
Yea because people seem to want to bring that shit into it every time they don’t get their way
Daehkcid93
How? I though that the current 46 million slaves would have been more culturally relevant
WowThatUsernameIsSoOriginal
It should be more relevant, probably. Unfortunately that is not how the world works.
Daehkcid93
Ah someone's feeling matter more than facts. The American slave trade was only 12.5 million, currently the slave trade is 46 million
WowThatUsernameIsSoOriginal
well, 12.5 million out of an estimated 1.1 billion is a higher proportion than 46 million out of an estimated 7 billion.
Daehkcid93
But they key differences, slavery was legal then and is illegal now
bertmacklinfbi01
Yes, something that ended over 100 years ago is still super relevant today.
WowThatUsernameIsSoOriginal
Lots of things that ended more than 100 years ago are still relevant today.
DamnedAustin
Well, after slavery we had segregation and Jim Crow that went MUCH later (up till about 2 generations ago) and you don't honestly believe(1)
DamnedAustin
that the country collectively fixed race relations when those ended, right? Pretending like the effects of slavery and horrendous (2)
billymayscocainestash
The racists on this site always show their hand in the most subtle ways
DamnedAustin
treatment of an entire race of people magically vanished when the laws changed is childishly naive (at best). (3/3)
MissingImage
And black/black slavery still happens horrifically today... In Africa.
chrisman01
And most slave owners are Muslim got my account suspended for posting truths like this
chrisman01
WOO I'M BACK BABY
AmeliaBeloved
All slavery of all kinds still happens everywhere, just usually in the shadows.
DuelDoubleUnderscore
Not only in the shadows. China tries to hide it but it’s like throwing a tarp over a car.
AmeliaBeloved
TheStealthHippopotamus
Well black/black slavery is actually how many slaves started black/white slavery.
Irishda
No it isn't. Colonial attitudes did
Donvah
That doesn't sound right. But I'm willing to hear you out. Please share knowledge.
AmeliaBeloved
Abridged: White people went to Africa, black people had slaves, white people said, "Give me some of that.", black people said, "Sure, buy!"
Donvah
Oh ok. I misunderstood your precious comment which is why I wanted clarification. Thank you. Also look at Brazillian slave trade. Brutal
TheStealthHippopotamus
yeah. Shockingly accurate for under 140 characters.
AmeliaBeloved
Ha. Thanks. I think I picked the right career.
Perfectlynormalhumanbieng
And there it is, always back to blacks. White people be like "blacks made us enslave them!"
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[deleted]
Perfectlynormalhumanbieng
Suck my dick jack
TheStealthHippopotamus
Made them? No, but without help of the local tribe it wouldn't have been possible. Well possible, but not profitable.
Perfectlynormalhumanbieng
Did they also make them exclusively have black slaves and also make laws and bibles ensuring blacks to be inferior too?
TheStealthHippopotamus
I have no idea who "they" and "them" are in your post. But nowhere on earth/time did your skin color save you from being a slave.