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An innocent man was falsely accused and beaten for a theft after a woman claimed he tried to steal her bag.
When police arrived and found the man's ID and belongings inside the bag, the woman reportedly said, "Oh. I got confused. They look the same. I'm sorry."
The incident has sparked outrage online, with many calling for accountability over false accusations that could have easily escalated.
CaptainWARLORD
What a shame. This man didn't deserve any of this. He wasn't being aggressive. He didn't even try to hit back, man... Come the fuck on.
GrumpyMe
Was she mistakenly "confused" (as per start of the video or was she the thief who got caught as per the end of the video?
Sibbykins
Old thief bitch
worm61
He could easily have gotten killed over this. Black people HAVE been killed for shit like this.
FutureBeachBum
As repayment, he should be able to hit her and the police. Straight across their faces.
DownUpUpDown
travelling while black is very dangerous....
TheFuckfaceWhisperer
https://eurweb.com/false-accusation-incident/
urusername2
She should be charged
Servo87
He uh... was a lot more peaceful than I would have been.
SwampApe75
i hate all this, wish he would of just snagged it hard enough to cause a slight flight in the air...could of saved himself from that lame punch, accountability for that first
GandalfTheGrey78
The guy attacking him was part of the scam.
B166ERMaximus
Idiot bystanders… just ask them both to say what’s in the bag, politely ask them both to hand it over and then run away!
Affray
This sort of thing always solidifies why I'd never let a jury of my peers decide my fate in a prison situation. Most people are fucked.
Totallycasual
Exactly, 3d party could have held onto the bag and asked them both what was inside.
kEMup
“What’s in the baggggggg?!”
stoots24
She’s really digging in those nails….
keyblader1985
For God's sake, verify. There was plenty of time to determine whether the bag was actually hers without throwing any punches.
Sticklebrickk
That would require critical thinking
Euchre
That guy could have easily gone full force and thrown that woman off the bags, and booked it. He did not. Plenty of reason to call police and just let them sort it out.
Ororon452
Verify? You do know this is the US?
Grendels2dCousinOnceRemoved
It's the Ditmas Avenue subway station in Brooklyn NY
drakcor
Literally with you 200% the guy could've have stepped in between them and verified shit. Instead he chose to punch the falsely accused person who couldn't defend himself as it would risk him losing his stuff.
AtmaDarkwolf
but then the white 'hero' couldn't get his chance to 'administer punishment' to the 'evil black man' and confirm all his bent maga beliefs. Won't anyone think about the poor, poor racists?
Shilzy
Poor guy. I hope he files charges against the guy who hit him. Doubt it will go anywhere though. so fucked up.
EmailFail
I dunno. There is a legal defense to crimes like this called, "self defense of another." However, that defense only works if you act reasonably in the defense of another. This was a crime.
Warthog2
sauce?
d14z3p4m
https://eurweb.com/false-accusation-incident/
SemperFiZero
White dork should be arrested for assault as well as the woman for falsely accusing the dude.
Pepeseinn
I hope they shoot the guy that hit him, in the dick, don't want a casualty but him not breeding would benefit everyone
kaijuuGold
he shoulda cracked her on the subway
philmoregraves
Could have escalated quickly? My dude idk if u noticed but that white dude was swinging very quickly before anyone could verify shit. That DID escalate quickly. The man who owns the bags wasn't trying to run off or anything either. I mean we all like a little citizen delivered justice but fuck make sure ur actually doing the right thing, not assuming u are. Get the damn police, I say that not while not liking cops. White dude and lil woman should have charges but I bet they don't
hsalonen3000
Both the woman and man "helping" should get charges for assault. The woman is clearly complicit in this.
onlyheretoargue
PuppyBella
Hurrah! for the guy standing his ground, in the face of adversity and PHYSICAL ABUSE. That is a stupid, stupid woman.
marsilies
I bet the guy felt like he didn't have much choice, considering his ID was in the bag. What else was in there? His house keys maybe?
Lionanar
Okay, both people claim the bag is theirs. Sure, that can happen. But.... is this how adult people deal with situations like that ??
Things like this happened to me alot when I was about 5 and my brother was about 4.
I did not take this long to solve it.
It was so important to the guy who punched him, to make sure that woman got her bag, that he fuc ked off long before he made sure the woman got her bag. (He didnt give a shit)
tirpider
lead has ruined the US for generations
marsilies
You forget the racism and sexism in play. It's assumed the black man is taking advantage of the woman.
ignotoCiResto
last 3 seconds of the video: the woman is a thief.
drakcor
I hope the white guy who chose to punch instead of actually be a man and break shit up, gets sued for assault.
Imademyselfsquirtle
Assault and battery.
vanishinggirl
Seriously though- it’s quite obvious by his actions that he’s not trying to steal the bag- if he was and there are bystanders wouldn’t he give up?? This asshat who punched him deserves charges against him!
flordelasantillas
Battery is when there is unlawful physical contact or striking of another person. Assault is the creation of fear (no contact).
StellarJay77
100% correct. Violence should never be your first go to especially when the black dude isn't being threatening in any way he's just holding onto his bag so he doesn't lose it. This is an unprovoked assault and battery (many people think assault means physical contact, it does not).
asm80dfa8sdfj
On that note, I have tried to say things like "no, that's sexual battery" before and gotten outrage thrown at me, even though it's literally a worse offense.
StellarJay77
"Never argue with fools - they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." - Mark Twain
neptix
the definitions of assault and battery are different depending on jurisdiction, so this one get's confusing in a hurry
StellarJay77
True, but generally the criteria for assault is met simply by threatening violence or bodily harm which is evident in the body posturing of the white guy well before he throws a punch. The criteria for battery is met when there is any sort of physical contact made with the intent to harm. Battery is typically a much more serious charge as well that comes with a much higher level of punishment. I hope this black man files charges against the woman and the man who punched him.
neptix
Oh, absolutely, they both deserve to do time. Laws can get complicated though, for example, battery is not mentioned in our laws here, and assault comes in various degrees, from simple assault to assault with a weapon or aggravated assault causing bodily harm.
Fuckimgurcunts
Yeah like punching is a real thing but homie is just chilling. That dude failed to read the situation badly.
StellarJay77
That dude is a racist asshole I can almost guarantee that. He's probably always looking for an excuse to beat up a "bad black person".
TexMexHex
I hope that woman's life is ruined over this. Being a stupid cunt isnt an excuse for any behavior. Fuck that stupid bitch
Imademyselfsquirtle
Fuck that guy who commuted assault and battery.
mksu
Let's not overlook the wannabe hero who kept punching him either.
pgdave
There's a pretty decent chance that she's got some mental problems - that doesn't mean what she did was okay, but I'm not sure I'd jump all the way to "I hope this [potentially mentally disabled] woman's life is ruined"
ignotoCiResto
it's fast but it's here, lemme paraphrase it "the bag owner was the guy, the woman tried to STEAL it and when she didnt manage she started to drag it claiming it was her".
That's not mentally disabled, that's criminal behavior. And by how she did play it, repeated criminal behavior that bore fruits before.
TexMexHex
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ignotoCiResto
somehow I missed writin the most important part: "in the last three seconds of the video there is the explanation, it's fast but it's here"
Terramotus
Are you kidding me? With a black man and a white woman, there is a VERY good chance the cops would have just shot him on sight. If he had been less calm, less collected, less good at expressing himself, or just less lucky, he would be dead right now.
She is a danger to the life of others. What good is a legal system if it doesn't keep people who are dangerous under control?
TexMexHex
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pgdave
I don't think I said that she wasn't dangerous, or that he didn't need protecting - I said that she seems like she might have some mental problems and I don't think jumping to "ruin her life" is good.
keyblader1985
I have a chip on my shoulder for things like this, because I was on the wrong end of it once. I was house sitting at someone's apartment, and a woman came to the door saying the grill sitting outside the apartment was theirs which had been stolen recently (I knew it wasn't because I was with them when they bought it).
I called up the owner and filled them in, and they talked to the woman for a moment. They said he didn't know where the receipt was, but they'd straighten everything out when they
keyblader1985
got back. The woman ended by saying that until then, she was taking the grill - I already knew that wasn't the deal so I told her no. She started freaking out screaming and saying she was going to get her brothers to shoot me. I'm not trying to get shot over someone else's grill, so I just let her take it and called the police.
They showed up a half hour later and listened to my story, then went to the woman's apartment to talk to her. They then came back to me and said, quote:
keyblader1985
"come on, man; just admit you stole it." She had a receipt, which was all they needed to call me a thief. Like I'd steal someone else's shit, display it outside, risk getting shot, and illegitimately call the police over a funky ass cheap Walmart grill that I'd be willing to bet other people there also owned.
The police basically said we had to settle it ourselves and left. Just one more reason I don't care for cops.
mksu
Black man getting accused by a white woman never stood a chance.
livingonagiantfireball
Women should be charged for theft attempt, disturbing the peace.
Snooj
Different place, different time, we wouldn't have even heard about it. There just would have been one less person in the world.
gardenias
Don't forget he was assaulted while in the process of defending his property! How modern-America.
BolenArrow
that lady does not look white she looks hispanic af. not saying she is but my first thought wasn't white xD
nitemayr
Did you get out your Phrenology apparatus there Franz Boas?
BolenArrow
Lol did you you fucking muppet? Could literally say the same thing.
Ororon452
White enough
BolenArrow
dumb.
fractalsphere
I sure hope she got arrested for the false accusation and for risking his life.
CambreathdTheSecound
and theft... :)
Ororon452
Noooope
agoogua
Do you have a link or are you just saying that?
AtmaDarkwolf
Hope the guy who popped him in the mouth gets some slapback too.
emu314159127001
That's so funny to even hope for. Sadly
SlightChungus
Oh absolutely not she's absolutely free and clear he gets assaulted and honestly I'm surprised that was all that happened.
StellarJay77
That woman wasn't confused at all. She was trying to steal it and got caught so played the "it's my bag" card because it's a black dude. She 100% knew what she was doing and it's disgusting. I've seen this BS a few times working security. Actual confused people don't act like this.
CertifiedBonerDonor
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worm61
She thought she could get away with it by weaponizing racism. She was almost right.
PalaverQuader
she would have played the "its my bag" card regardless of skin color.
worm61
No, this was definitely an attempt to weaponize her white privilege. She didn’t target a Black man by chance.
4etherling
Why would she stay until the police came if she was genuinely trying to steal it?
StellarJay77
Because she knows there's a decent chance she will face no consequences regardless of how it pans out and if he has nothing in the bag that provides proof of ownership she might end up with it anyway.
AloneWithMyThoughts
if she leaves the scene, probably harder to claim confusion afterwards. Especially if she has no issue getting physical over it in the first place.
whatthewoda
She can pretend that she was confused, and get people to side with her.
asm80dfa8sdfj
Plausible deniability. If she left it would be obvious she knew it wasn't hers. She has to stay if she wants to play the "I thought it was mine" card.
curialis
the person that assaulted him over it was even worse
Imademyselfsquirtle
That is battery.
airbudwasagainsttherules
Idk about that. While his motivations could totally be racially motivated I think most guys would help an older woman who says a guy stole from her. We can't tell, but I would bet he had good intentions.
ziph3326
She wasn’t in any physical danger, he wasn’t protecting her from harm. Should have left it to the authorities!
PSqueezy
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. He should’ve listened, assessed tried to see that the man wasn’t trying to run, was trying to explain what happened. Obviously being removed from the situation with no adrenaline whatsoever makes it sound easy. I’d probably punch a dude if he was running away from the scene with the bag, but this situation doesn’t warrant it
airbudwasagainsttherules
Agreed.
Prometheusblu
Thieves tend to cut their losses when discovered, the fact he was sticking around should give a person pause.
airbudwasagainsttherules
Again, easy to assess when totally removed from the situation happening live in front of you.
Prometheusblu
That was an escalation of force, and people do get in trouble for that. I’m not saying the dude who punched him needs to like go to jail for the rest of his life but like 20 hours of community service seems appropriate. He was trying to help but seeing as they weren’t hitting each other he didn’t need to start throwing punches. We are just lucky nobody had a gun, it’s stupid situations like this where people end up dead over nothing.
Ristari
If his intentions were pure I assume he stuck around to the end and apologized? If not, doesn't really matter, he's the asshole now. And he's also lucky that guy was peaceful or otherwise distracted by holding onto his stuff.
airbudwasagainsttherules
Furthermore, my point was that the lady that caused the situation is still largely responsible for the fallout.
airbudwasagainsttherules
We'll obviously I am disagreed with. But the number of people that read this and think I'm dead certain about what happened is way too high. I literally state that we can't tell what's motivating them. I know they are wrong, but in that moment it's hard to know what to do.
MissIWasntItching
"Good intentions" are useless if you perform assault without cause.
There are a dozen other ways to assist that situation without hitting the person you decide is in the wrong.
airbudwasagainsttherules
You're right, he should have stopped to think more clearly. Is it possible for a well meaning idiot to cause harm? Btw, I am in no way certain he had good intentions, could be an asshole that found an opening for violence.
airbudwasagainsttherules
Saw another comment that claimed the guy throwing the punch was part of the scam with the lady (no source).
Never occurred to me they could be working together.
I won't delete this comment because I think the discussion is important.
I don't think it's okay to hit people, just that in a heated moment a lot of people do things like this thinking they are in the right.
My main point was that this course of action was started by the lady, but if they are working together then it's totally diff.
Imademyselfsquirtle
IT'S NOT YOUR JOB TO ASSAULT OR BE THE CAUSE OF BATTERY YOU DUMB FUCK LEARN THE LAW. THAT IS NOT GOOD INTENTIONS TO STUPID FUCK. Jesus christ I bet you're a fucking rapist Republican pedophile supporter aren't you.
airbudwasagainsttherules
Nope. I just figured that it's possible this idiot thought he was doing the right thing. Everyone was so certain he had the worst intentions.
I'm not even American let alone Republican.
airbudwasagainsttherules
Just to clarify, in no way do I support his actions. I don't know what he was thinking, it could be the worst case. People are certainly capable of seeing an opening for hatred and violence and exploiting it. I'm just saying we don't know for sure that his motivations were totally immoral. The conclusions some of you have taken from my comments expose howly tribally aligned thinking has become.
airbudwasagainsttherules
I will say that if I could write my reply again, I wouldn't "bet" on what he was thinking. I appreciate all the comments as this is worth discussing. My disagreement was that this guy is more morally culpable than the lady that started these chains of events. That's all.
I do not condone his actions.
I got called a republican over this. There's no reason for personal insults.
forelle
How to get downvotes. Think before you post.
airbudwasagainsttherules
Idgaf about internet points, consensus is not an indicator of truth. What did I say that was incorrect?
curialis
I am not even bringing race into this though I think it def played a role. I can legitimately see her being confused and thinking that he was trying to take her bag but he wasn't hitting her or being abusive. Hitting him was not called for and authorities needed to be brought in to address it before beating the crap out of him or simply talking to them both and working out the issue
airbudwasagainsttherules
Where did I say that the violence was called for?
If you want to take the authorities route, what they would probably say is (not that I agree) don't resist her and we'll investigate and try to get your things back.
Domivla
If you think that hitting someone who isn't running and who seems to communicate with you normally is the right thing to do, then you are retarded.
He could have decked the woman and just left. Instead he tried to communicate and got punched for it. He was hit by that inbread fuck cause he was no danger to him. Kyle Ritterhouse syndrome.
airbudwasagainsttherules
I think I could make the case that this is quite different from that fucker Kyle.
airbudwasagainsttherules
Also I never once said I thought that he was in the right.
Selfawerewolf
He didn't fuckin' help in the least. What are you talking about.
airbudwasagainsttherules
Did I say he helped, read it again?
txchief11
I went through your comment history and I will be blocking you because you are a troll or an idiot or both, but I am also going to recommend that you shut the fuck up.
worm61
Thieves don’t say “look in the bag”. The guy who hit him wanted an excuse to assault a Black person.
justpullnpray
Nah dude that guy that punched that dude needs to go to jail the lady needs to go to jail as well for biting him and as far as I'm concerned she was attempting to steal his property. She was also holding him hostage if you ask me. If I had my ID my cell phone or any valuables in that bag I wouldn't let go of it either. All that dude needed to do was get on the phone with the police. That guy should go to jail 100%
airbudwasagainsttherules
Yep, that was a crime. What I'm saying is that it's possible he was an idiot that had good intentions.
BHPaperstacks
I wouldnt want to call the cops. These days calling the cops on an innocent person, let alone an innocent, or maybe even not innocent, but never the less certainly undeserving of being brutally executed, person of color, can lead to just that, a brutal extrajudicial execution with the perpetrators (police) walking away with qualified immunity and lame excuses like failing to comply, after purposefully giving contradicting orders, which ought to count as evidence of premeditation, but doesn't.
fractalsphere
I wouldn't immediately choose to HIT someone over saying "hey just open the bag, let's prove whose it is right now"
airbudwasagainsttherules
Fair, but when things get heated it's not easy to think clearly. We are looking at phones, not live violence.
Dannoboyo
100% THIS ^^^^ Guy was an ass. I've see that look on plenty of racists. So SURE the black guy was a criminal.
airbudwasagainsttherules
What order did these things happen in?
ParryLost
No, that's idiotic. Assault doesn't become ok just because a little old lady told you to do it and you have "good intentions." It's assault.
airbudwasagainsttherules
The lady didn't tell him to, she created a deception about the situation. I didn't say that he was good, just that he may have thought he was being good. Idk what the hell he was thinking.
ParryLost
Well now he SHOULD be thinking about the time he's going to spend in prison for assaulting someone. Don't know if he will, but he SHOULD.
Dannoboyo
That guy was not a good guy.