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PolyTheWicked
This shouldn’t even be about privacy. People shouldn’t need to fear being in a same sex or interracial relationship to begin with.
NotUSAmerican
Imagine there r people who believe their opinion about where some put their genitals in consent is so important that laws 'd be made of it.
Elijah21Noel
Yeah, they we're attested in '98. Court decision was not made until June 26, 2003 so that makes it even younger
Howmuchistoomuchspam
I’m anti government telling me what I can do with my genitalia and another consenting adult. GTFO my life
SithElephant
The law was only overturned in 2003. About nineteen years and a week ago.
doobiedoobop
Plus, the sodomy law they were charged with includes any sexual act that gives pleasure but can't lead to procreation. So no oral sex either
mrthewhitee
Now think about all the ways it's easier to tell if someone is non-straight today (social media, browser history, location data etc).
Userlivewire
If they invade the privacy of same-sex adults they will invade the privacy of single heteros too, making sex before marriage illegal.
LaughingInTheFaceOfDanger
Straight up handmaids tale soon
jeips
note, Clarence Thomas was on there and voted NO. He already tried to say that 2 same sex individuals cannot have sex in their own home.
NeverConfusedForNaught
I'm not American so can anyone explain to me who exactly is "we" and who is not "we"
whiskeywonka
https://www.oyez.org/cases/2002/02-102 'Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist and Justices Thomas joined, filed dissents' hes been waiting
GrumpyOldMillennial
Friendly reminder, sodomy is not gay anal sex. Sodomy is ALL non hetero vaginal sex acts for purposes other than procreation. BJs, handies
GrumpyOldMillennial
All of it, straight or gay, is classified as sodomy and therefore according to the state, an arrestable offense
DigiT00l
Mastrubation
YouLikeMemesDontYouSquidward
How do you fight this?
Tyrann01
Well the senate are in there for LIFE. And I do hear America is full of guns...
MrHailstone
Somethings wrong with your supreme court
Belgiddybleh
Yes well conservatives were told to wear a mask which was extreme government intrusion, but this is ok in their book?!
BubbleF0X
Isn't this why you are allowed to own guns?
OberonBlackstone
I'm moving to Canada. Oh wait, I already live here. Thank God.... #wakeupamerica
Eednam
Holy fucking shit, I definitely thought it was older but have no idea why I thought that... Tbf I was 8 when this happened but damn...
zanaria
Simple solution, let the whole country VOTE on the rights and go by the popular vote. Dont let 6 people decide what your rights are
BootsDusty
icyanddicey
#1
walnutbreath
Texas' sodomy statute also makes oral sex between straight couples a deviant sex act. Sorry, Texans, no more blowies
MikeStinse
They're pretty much the modern black codes.
ShiftingPattern
Most sodomy laws do, not just Texas. People fixate on anal sex, but sodomy is technically any "unnatural act".
rbudrick
Which is odd because those in power often prefer head so they can "honestly" say "I did not have sex with her."
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
Damn, didn't know Texans loved the government so much they want it right up in their bedroom.
walnutbreath
Not THEIR bedroom, just YOURS.
PromiseImThrowed
How can the anti-blowjob party keep winning elections?! (I know the answer, it's by cheating, but it still baffles me.)
SolarYandere
. . . . Haven't respected this country since elementary school, and it just constantly gives me reasons to continue doing so. Wonder how lon
SolarYandere
Long it's gonna take until violence is the only option left.
Furiou5
"If Democrats don't pay for my student loans they have failed and I will never vote again." - some straight white liberal probably
ABillionDucks
"You should vote dem even if they do nothing but ask for fundraising money" - you
Furiou5
That's demonstratively false, you can see for yourself there is plenty of legislation that gets blocked by the GOP (1)
Furiou5
https://clerk.house.gov/Votes (/2)
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
And they should keep saying that. Everyone should vote, but we don't threaten and scare the party enough into believing they need to earn it
Furiou5
They do earn it, just because the news doesn't had feed it to you doesn't mean it isn't there: https://clerk.house.gov/Votes
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
Please, they don't earn shit. I'd wager the vast majority of votes they get is not because they inspire anyone with their actions and >
Furiou5
Say: "I'm a dumb fucking centrist" louder please. Wait, you're probably a "libertarian" lol.
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
If I was a dumb fucking centrist I'd be perfectly satisfied with Democrats.
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
>policy, but just from voters who are voting purely AGAINST the GOP.
Will0099
“You have no rights.” - George Carlin
Mostlydeadpool
The whole "voting" thing was the colonial leaders needing a way to convince the middle class to join in the war. Because, newsflash, most >
Mostlydeadpool
>of them didn't want to fight in a war for the rich Americans against the British. started with only white men with property and slowly >
Mostlydeadpool
>and reluctantly more and more people "got to vote" by rioting and social unrest. They're gotten comfy that their cops can keep the peace>
Mostlydeadpool
>enough to just roll it all back to "rich people get to vote. poor people get to work."
Saker82
Dude just wait until they hear about how the founders learned "representative taxation" wouldn't work cause everyone just said "no" and 1/2
Melonfish
RensintheRedjaw
This should scare everyone. Straight, gay, or whatever else. Infringes on privacy!
lildude52ca
i don't understand? what happened?
CaptainThePirate
It infuriates me.
xtreampb
I say the same thing with red flag laws, or nfrenges on the 14th amendment (due process) and 4 (unlawful searches and seizures) with no
xtreampb
Accusations of any crime. All under the guise of safety. This is a dangerous entryway for imprisonment without a crime or trial
calebIsOnFire
Felons can’t vote
dogmatix
And, you know... Basic human rights and decency.
EverNotRelevant
Didn't you hear, privacy doesn't exist, boring to worry about
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EverNotRelevant
Autocorrect got me, was supposed to be "nothing"
FireflyArc
That's concerning. For everyone. How to solve what might happen until it does?
ProppaGanda
SmAlL gOvErNmEnT
InTheDistanceAPlaintiveEnglishHorn
Yep but in general it's the gays who have had no privacy
RensintheRedjaw
And that should worry you even if you're not gay. Scarlet letter was as much about witch hunting as anything.
LuLuPennyAndOdium44
CIS guys - they are about to make blowjobs illegal
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
Aren't blowjobs under the sodomy umbrella? You might it even be exaggerating lol
IdiotSavantTinker
Yup, oral or anal sex is "sodomy" and a bunch of pricks who can't get laid are hysterically agitating to make it illegal.
mrthewhitee
And anal
Lovingimpaler
No hypocrisy there, no sir! /s
Leithoa
Cis is a latin prefix, not an acronym. It doesn't get capitalized.
LuLuPennyAndOdium44
flavivsaetivs
Yeah we're not B-1 Battle Droids.
RensintheRedjaw
Anything that can't yield a baby.
NotTheFedsForSure
Jokes on them, nothing I do will wield a baby
KurtopiaCreative
Hmm. Makes one wonder if they'll start sending sterile people out to the colonies
badatediting
*when
ronlybonly
wield, yield, or both?
Justtakealookatthis
You turn the bottom end away from you and remove the diaper...
TerraDactyl89
The 2nd amendment doesn't specify that the arms we have the right to bear not be attached to a baby, so wielding babies is protected. /s
cloverleafbane
Reminder that if your rights can be taken away they weren't rights they were priveleges afforded to you by the state. We need amendments.
chiechien
SCOTUS has moved directly against multiple rights codified clearly in the bill of rights this week. They don't care.
FetteredJuvenescence
We need them, but we'll never get them. The barrier to enacting a new amendment has been deliberately made impossible.
cloverleafbane
Because taking them away is supposed to be impossible. Our country is designed to make change slow and difficult by design.
cloverleafbane
Our current situation is a subversion of the founders intent for how the courts were intended to serve. Our system isn’t designed to be
cloverleafbane
Capable of handling so much foundational change all at once. It’s an uneasy feeling because our core principles are being shaken.
FetteredJuvenescence
How's that working out for us?
Foxsayy
By that definition very nearly everything is a privilege, including marriage, gay marriage, speach, fair trials, and life itself.
cloverleafbane
Yup. Got it on the first try.
keillrandor
This is because the US is based on a LIE - 'rights' are God-given rather than man-made - opposite wrong extreme of divine rights of kings.
Foxsayy
It's time for a new expression because a lot of us don't beleive in god.
keillrandor
The truth is that all 'rights' are created by ourselves FOR ourselves, and need to be earned by our continued survival and living.
keillrandor
The far right fascists are using the country's flawed foundation against it, regardless of expression - a new country is probably needed.
FetteredJuvenescence
That is the point, yes.
Foxsayy
Then why even have a word for rights? If everything is a privilege wouldn't this meaning have no functional use? Or just be wrong?
FetteredJuvenescence
The point was that if we want them to actually be rights, we need to make them irrevocable.
Foxsayy
I get what you mean now. I think that was a confusing way to put it, but I agree with the sentiment.
cloverleafbane
I think it’s useful to think of them as foundations. What are our lines in the sand as a populace. I think rights are a far more powerful 1/
cloverleafbane
Concept than how we colloquially use the term. A lot (most) things people call rights are truly privileges and we need to be aware of that.
Foxsayy
I get what you mean now. I think that was a confusing way to put it, but I agree with the sentiment.
TheSpleen
Conservatives have been arguing for years that you have no right to privacy, that was a big part of Roe.
Melancholy69
No you got it wrong. Everyone that isn't WHITE has no right to privacy.
otterkrylon
Then they should should up about the leak of the draft
RideTheStimutacs
Which means if they get their way, you can call the police on any conservative who gets a blowjob.
MagnorCriol
And yet when someone does a little thing like publish the addresses of the SCOTUS justices, all of a sudden it’s all about privacy.
TheGriffin
or doxx a Dishonorable Justice's credit card lmao
IdiotSavantTinker
Oh my did that really happen?
TheGriffin
I think so...? I've been seeing it around, but have yet to see any confirmation reports
TheobromineAddict
The word "privacy" doesn't appear anywhere in the Constitution. 4th amendment comes close.
PanNonOpticon
Neither does peanut butter.
PickleRiiiiiiiiiiiiick
Nor does abortion, but thats because they were just a normal medical practice at the time. They couldnt fathom people needing it spelled out
TheobromineAddict
Leithoa
Guess we better raise the age of majority to 21 and only let land owners vote then. What a childish understanding you have.
leperoutcastunclean
Don't shoot the messenger. Getting angry at someone over court rulings without understanding what the fuck is going on is childish.
TheobromineAddict
Hanging abortions rights on the nebulous thread of "privacy" was always a mistake. The right to be "secure in their persons" is a more ⇶
TheobromineAddict
⇶ direct reference to bodily autonomy. That's the argument which should have been used. ▉
NotSomoneElse68
Not quite. The conservatives at the time were big into the right to privacy. The vote was 7-2b at the time. 3 were conservative. ¹
NotSomoneElse68
especially Warren Burger.
Margrave9000
Never trust a conservative. They must have had a hidden agenda (with the purpose of imposing genocidal fascism on the long term).
LaughingInTheFaceOfDanger
Especially since some belonged to clandestine organizations
BeanTootsAreBest
Lawrence vs Texas protects rights, overturning it is an assault on human rights. Vote Blue in state and federal elections.
RyanH42
Violence and intimidation work better.
DigiT00l
Tbf, so was Roe
BeanTootsAreBest
Yes, it was
TanithRosenbaum
In *all* elections, on every level.
bippityboppitybuttsex
Yeah, I don't care if you are the fucking dogcatcher, if you are a Republican, I am voting against you.
SerialChickenLover
And when that doesn’t work for the umpteenth time, buy a gun and learn how to use it.
waitwuh
Is it possible to learn to use a gun but not buy one? I’m worried about keeping a gun where I live. Are there classes where you can borrow?
SerialChickenLover
Like the other guy said, go to a shooting range. You can rent them and buy ammunition for shooting on the property. I’m sure they also offer
SerialChickenLover
/marksman and gun safety classes so you can be prepared if you decide to buy one.
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
I'd look up local shooting ranges and ask, I wouldn't be surprised if they're willing to loan you one, might charge you extra for it.
IdiotSavantTinker
There is a range near me that will loan firearms for practice, I'd call some of the ones local to you.
nelsie020
There are also businesses (like some gun shops) that can store your firearms safely on their premises for a fee.
miserycones
Me waiting for libertarians to start speaking out against the potential for govt overreach
RensintheRedjaw
All the libertarians I've seen have either tried to call out the dems over nonsense or have spun this into a positive.
spiffylookingnerfherder
"I'm a libertarian; I just don't believe in gay marriage, or that weed should be legal." (/s)
SilverNicktail
Libertarians only care about things that affect them directly. Empathy is not their strong suit.
Dondarian
Every single libertarian I know is full of 100% inaction and regurgitation of other libertarians
SerialChickenLover
Libertarians are useless contrarians.
Bhargo
libertarians dont care when things happen to other people silly
flyingtirtle
The libertarian position is that government shouldn't be involved with your body. Where are you finding libertarians sayng otherwise?
TimbiquiDarkThirty
"(l)ibritarians" are, (L)ibritarians aren't
Peachos
Justice & librity for all eh?
MouseKeyboard
Libertarian for corporate regulation, socialist for corporate handouts, authoritarian for people
Hnetu
Libertarians are just Republicans who are cowards.
drinkthederpentine
No shit the authoritarian judges picked by trump, an authoritarian, are overreaching
HalfADozenBearCubs
As a libertarian, I agree 100%. I have been hoping and voting to fire the lot of them ever since the anti-constitution Patriot Act.
AngleSimi
They gotta be tired of saying it at this point
ReddyFreddy
We are all working to live in a system we hate and oppresses us
Marwick42
It's only overreaching if I don't like it. /s
CorGoBrrrr
Shaodyn
Libertarians are like house cats. Fiercely convinced of their own independence while totally reliant on a system they don't understand.
PrincessPicklebricks
I’m staring at my cat Princess (she’s being a total bitch rn) and that’s accurate.
Saker82
Or appreciate.
Shaodyn
That too. Hit the character limit.
klomb8888
Such a perfect summary
vg8ts
Most libertarians (actual, not Rand Paul wankers) are against this kind of thing. Check out Jason Brennan for example.
vg8ts
Page 94 of "Libertarianism: What Everyone Needs to Know" to be specific.
vg8ts
"Libertarians think that the state has no business judging one kind of love more worthy of honor and protection than the others."
CraftyGiant
Then they use that reasoning to explain why they should be able to date 13 years olds.
vg8ts
Is your statement any different than the right-wing response of "this is how we get people marrying their dogs"?
AerialAceAttack
Libertarianism is just fascism for the misinformed.
flyingtirtle
How?
qPRdxH4UXm36HS9rJgLA
Have you ever hated poor people on weed?
PoopyProblem5
Calm down there jon stewart
AerialAceAttack
I have hated myself while high, so yes.
komododave
Libertarians stand in the middle, yelling about both sides so they can always claim political high ground when something goes wrong.
StaciesDad
I mean there's also just neutral centralists who dont care for aligning with a party as if that were the only option. ?
storebrandproductmascot
But they're not in the middle at all. They're more hardcore capitalist than the Republicans.
komododave
I didn’t mean middle politically, I meant figuratively.
ButtBot9900
lmao libertarians never say shit about this sort of thing, they only exist to complain about dems while saying "I'm not a republican"
SchrodingersDictator
My resident libertarian was laughing at the seems for creating a system where they had enough power that when that power got taken by the
SchrodingersDictator
opposition this stuff could happen.
hardytardigrade
Of course, because if there's one thing history shows it's that if no one has power, no one will take it /s
SaveitforQueenDoppelpoppolus
complaining about dems and having strong opinions on what age is pedophilia and what age is technically a different term for pedophilia
Dirtyshubb
Libertarians only exist to know the age of consent in every state/country and to have their HDD seized by police.
FajitaPrinceofAllMexicans
"I'm not Republican, but I think the age of consent is shit, and I'm not Republican, but I like these child marriage laws they have."
thedudeman519
"Im not a republican, but Antifa are the real problem, not the Proud Boys or 3 percenters or white supremacists infiltrating law enforcement
pareidoliaperson
Don't forget *****WOKEISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!***** and...oh hear this...and about *****WOKEISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!*****...BTW also WOKEISM!
Snarfleblarben
Don't hold you breath, libertarians are just fascists in waiting. Always have been.
ThisIsAWasteOfMyTime
Hey now. Some of them are just genuine idiots or nutjobs. With their "government regulating driving with driver's licenses is fascism" views
FailureTowne
The "idiot who doesn't understand fascism"-to-fascist pipeline is robust
Mickp81
Some are just incredibly naïve, and think if the government just stayed out of things, everything would run smoothly.
transientmind
“Everything’s running smoothly! Brought to you by Amazon. (Your balance deducted 5 Bezosbucks for this reassurance.)”
Ludus
hardytardigrade
Lazy fascists who don't want to do any of the actual work it takes to oppress everyone else.
flyingtirtle
How?
Snarfleblarben
They say they want people to be free to live as they want, but only if they agree to live like them.
flyingtirtle
I've never seen a libertarian say that. You sure they were libertarian?
Snarfleblarben
Because people always express themselves with perfect self awareness, right?
BatsArentBugs
I identified as a libertarian until I met other libertarians and the I was like, “oh nooooooo……”
Snarfleblarben
That follows
Mickp81
I did until 08, the Great Recession. Took AP ECON in high school with an economically conservative teacher. Took a big event to shake it off
BBQatCirces
Libertarians would let you rape and murder their own daughters if you said it would mean they never had to pay tax again.
couchcaster
That's not true at all. I'm no Lib but this is dumb.
Saker82
Dude, Vladimir Putin could land in New York harbor with the entire Red Army and Navy, say whoever sucks me off won't have to pay taxes 1/2
Saker82
And every libertarian and the entire GQP would be lined up from Ellis Island to El Paso waiting to give him an enthusiastic hummer while 2/3
Saker82
kneeling on an American flag which they would also spit the load on and then thank Papa Vlady. 3/end
thedudeman519
Me 2 summers ago watching "Libertarians" cheer as Federal agents in unmarked vans were scooping people up off the street.
NoQuestionMarksInDeclarativeSentences
...links?
CraftyGiant
BORTAC Snatch vans were used in multiple states summer 2020, portland Oregon had the most.
IdiotSavantTinker
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/07/27/bort-j27.html
thedudeman519
Unfortunately, I'm not in any of these groups on reddit /FB anymore and I didn't save the book marks. I do understand that self identified
thedudeman519
libertarians are not the same as the Libertarian Party, and my anecdotal experiences may not represent the views of ALL libertarians.