Yeah and we grew up singing “Jesus loves the little children, all the children of the world, red and yellow, black and white …” in a city (and church) that was highly segregated and racist.
had a teacher at my kids elementary school who was VERY into Superman. Every year he did a chalk artwork of Superman. I suggested this and it was politely declined as too political
This is the Superman I want to see in theaters, not the fucking grimdark psycho Superman. DCEU would have been genius if it had been a stealth setup for an Injustice universe... but alas.
If I was a teacher in Florida or Texas I might put up this poster in the classroom just to see how long it takes for the school board fascists to blow a gasket.
Teeeechnically, in most versions, Superman used to be an illegal alien vigilante, but let the Kents adopt him and embraced his fake Clark Kent persona to get a job, which made him naturalized since he is legally the adopted son of the Kents. I think there was one version where Clark was still a fake name and he was still illegal, but mostly Supes loves the law. Remember kids, even your heroes will disappoint you!
I like the analasys of Superman as being an exploration of the idea 'okay, sure, even if there was an Ubermensch, exactly as you describe, he wouldn't be on your fucking side'.
Superman was made by two Jewish young men in response to hearing about Jewish persecution in Germany and wishing they had super powers so they could stop it. Kal-El Jor-el reflect worlds in Hebrew. El being a prefix meaning, might, strength, power, or god.
Yeah, the comic book industry and the arts in general have always been more liberal and tolerant than the bourgeois mindset. Here is Stan Lee's response to an asshole from 1968:
man I made the mistake of looking at comments for a RATM video on youtube and 90% of them were upvoted comments of antivaxxers complaining about them promoting vaccines and saying HUR I GUES THEY RAGE FOR THE MACHINE NOW
Tom Morello himself replied to one of those tweets. Some random other guy added "What machine did you think they were raging against? The dishwasher?" The image of that circulated here for a while.
They understand. They just don't care about anyone else. They're also the ones that care more about the rights if their guns then other people's lives, demand that everyone contributes to society by working and paying taxes, but throw a fit if anyone so much as suggests that society benefits anyone that isn't them in any way.
Superman, Captain America, Jesus, Santa, etc. Quite the long list of fictional characters previously championed by conservatives that are now too decent for their cuntry club.
Wait, I thought historians are somewhat agreeing that some prophet/preacher we now refer to as Jesus existed, minus all the fantasy nonsense ofc? So Jesus might not be fictional, but the stories about him are 90% bullshit... it's a shitshow trying to find non-biased info on this though.
Hi I’m “first initial last name bunch of numbers” and I am definitely a Christian woman of color defending the honor of my lord and savior HayZeus the brown guy from Bethlehem.
If I recall correctly, Captain America's creator was Jewish, and the intended message behind Cap was to stand up against the likes of Nazis, or something similar to that. Please, anyone, correct me if I'm off on anything. It's midnight and I'm doubting myself already.
Yes, Jack Kirby & Joe Simon were Jewish. The first issue of Captain America has Cap knocking Hitler out on the cover. It was published a full year before Pearl Harbor & 3+ years before the invasion of Normandy. Cap's creation was a consciously political act to voice their disgust at what Hitler was doing in Europe and the anti-war activists.
The comic came out in 1941. He was literally fighting Nazis from the get-go. The "intended message" was not hidden, nor subtle. It was being spelled out in big, bold letters. P U N C H _ N A Z I S. Not to mention his position during the Avengers' own Civil War. He outright dropped his star-spangled uniform and became Nomad whenever America wasn't worth standing for. (Until he decided that he needed to remain Cap ESPECIALLY during those times, as a reminder of the ideals they forgot.)
TheWombatStrikesAgain
"He didn't say anything about political leaning, sexual orientation, or gender identity. We can still attack them for those!" - the conservative take
octokubik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qVoUNN6LjQ
RyanH42
A few years prior...
symmetry7
You're damn right.
andaction
Yeah and we grew up singing “Jesus loves the little children, all the children of the world, red and yellow, black and white …” in a city (and church) that was highly segregated and racist.
followmeiknowtheway
anitabieror6
they put the black guy in the back and it needs more women but, still cool for the 50s
Awmph
Back when no one thought twice about punching nazis
ZIMISME
Wouldn't it be nice if that was indeed the case, but obviously, it is not.
Jimmywiggles76
@30dollars a regular round, and 150dollars for a tracer round,that more than I make a year being fired into the nothingness.
MarkySpaceMagnet
Love the ricochet.
sydneygirl
had a teacher at my kids elementary school who was VERY into Superman. Every year he did a chalk artwork of Superman. I suggested this and it was politely declined as too political
MSB3000
This is the Superman I want to see in theaters, not the fucking grimdark psycho Superman. DCEU would have been genius if it had been a stealth setup for an Injustice universe... but alas.
NotTheSameAnymore
shankelstoff
That's right. The country was rightfully stolen by many different peoples!
blackflame561
I grew up in one of the most bizarre melting pots. I saw small scale gang shit, and I saw community rising up to strike it down.
anotherdeadaquarian
Why is he surrounded by only white kids hahaha
kjbopp
this ain't you grandpa's 1950s.
dixxienormus
That's exactly what an alien would say.
TheobromineAddict
If I was a teacher in Florida or Texas I might put up this poster in the classroom just to see how long it takes for the school board fascists to blow a gasket.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
“Oh no, we're not against anyone because of their race or religion - it just that many of those people ......”
Radix865
"Some parents might find it offensive."
HedonistBeard
I mean they're not wrong.... I'm not against americans in general it's just that many of those people.......
Folsee
My dad always get upset, saying "superman used to be Merican!" Bitch he is an illegal alien vigilante.
raiker333
Teeeechnically, in most versions, Superman used to be an illegal alien vigilante, but let the Kents adopt him and embraced his fake Clark Kent persona to get a job, which made him naturalized since he is legally the adopted son of the Kents. I think there was one version where Clark was still a fake name and he was still illegal, but mostly Supes loves the law. Remember kids, even your heroes will disappoint you!
rshini
Supes is basically a Lawful Good character, uphold the social contracts of the law, and ignore the laws designed to hurt or abuse
rooik14
and made by two Jewish people exploring the feelings of diaspora post World War 2
VanillaJester
The first comic featuring Superman was released more than a year before WW2 started.
rooik14
Ah I did misremember that part. However Jewish diaspora was definitely happening at that time too, of course.
VanillaJester
I like the analasys of Superman as being an exploration of the idea 'okay, sure, even if there was an Ubermensch, exactly as you describe, he wouldn't be on your fucking side'.
rooik14
Definitely a good one too, multiple takes at once can be correct.
CommentsThisTimeLastYear
iT's tOO bAd tHeY mADe [Superman, Star Trek, X-Men, Rage Against the Machine, insert counterculture icon here] wOkE.
ThisGuyHere
Badsequence
Don't forget Dee Snyder going woke for not letting them use "were not gonna take it" at their rallys even though they missed the point to it
Enoan
If you're tired of being woke go back to bed. We don't need sleepwalkers running our societies
DropDrop
Superman was made by two Jewish young men in response to hearing about Jewish persecution in Germany and wishing they had super powers so they could stop it. Kal-El Jor-el reflect worlds in Hebrew. El being a prefix meaning, might, strength, power, or god.
rerickson5133
When did rage against the machine get so political!? - some media illiterate dumb ass
Shaodyn
Obligatory "Star Trek has been woke the entire time"
PunnyTiger
yeah, "Fascist government and ignorant, anti-human corporate establishment is the machine they're raging against,fuckwits."
TheSlackerKing
FiftyShadesOfArugula
Yeah, the comic book industry and the arts in general have always been more liberal and tolerant than the bourgeois mindset. Here is Stan Lee's response to an asshole from 1968:
FiftyShadesOfArugula
And Neil Gaiman's from 1992 for good measure:
CommentsThisTimeLastYear
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kbowser
What if this was the America trump was talking about... lolol
thevortexmaster
You're talking to a bot.
Nathanyel
To be fair, lots of us are reading this, including you. Replies don't have to be aimed only at the author of the parent comment.
thevortexmaster
That is a good point. Although I just say it so they know. If I missed that I'd like to know.
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man I made the mistake of looking at comments for a RATM video on youtube and 90% of them were upvoted comments of antivaxxers complaining about them promoting vaccines and saying HUR I GUES THEY RAGE FOR THE MACHINE NOW
DukeDarkwood
Tom Morello himself replied to one of those tweets. Some random other guy added "What machine did you think they were raging against? The dishwasher?" The image of that circulated here for a while.
WheezyLex
The problem with antivaxxers is that they don’t understand that vaccines are a public health problem, not an individual choice or “freedom” problem.
Nikolai5
They've been consumed by right wing propaganda.
Deleteded
They understand. They just don't care about anyone else. They're also the ones that care more about the rights if their guns then other people's lives, demand that everyone contributes to society by working and paying taxes, but throw a fit if anyone so much as suggests that society benefits anyone that isn't them in any way.
Theory89
It's all about shellfish
NoItsATideUsername
Superman, Captain America, Jesus, Santa, etc. Quite the long list of fictional characters previously championed by conservatives that are now too decent for their cuntry club.
logicalson
Jesus isn't fictional though. Welcome.
FlyingDutchGirl
Jesus may have really lived. If the stories about him are true...
NonFungibleUsername
Hangman11
The guy who literally rose from the dead? Literally out of a fantasy novel. For any rational person anyways
aloharamada
Wait, I thought historians are somewhat agreeing that some prophet/preacher we now refer to as Jesus existed, minus all the fantasy nonsense ofc? So Jesus might not be fictional, but the stories about him are 90% bullshit... it's a shitshow trying to find non-biased info on this though.
iTakeQuotesOutOfContext
Hi I’m “first initial last name bunch of numbers” and I am definitely a Christian woman of color defending the honor of my lord and savior HayZeus the brown guy from Bethlehem.
logicalson
Spot on
Trinik
If I recall correctly, Captain America's creator was Jewish, and the intended message behind Cap was to stand up against the likes of Nazis, or something similar to that. Please, anyone, correct me if I'm off on anything. It's midnight and I'm doubting myself already.
thisnameisntfunny
Yes, Jack Kirby & Joe Simon were Jewish. The first issue of Captain America has Cap knocking Hitler out on the cover. It was published a full year before Pearl Harbor & 3+ years before the invasion of Normandy. Cap's creation was a consciously political act to voice their disgust at what Hitler was doing in Europe and the anti-war activists.
DukeDarkwood
The comic came out in 1941. He was literally fighting Nazis from the get-go. The "intended message" was not hidden, nor subtle. It was being spelled out in big, bold letters. P U N C H _ N A Z I S. Not to mention his position during the Avengers' own Civil War. He outright dropped his star-spangled uniform and became Nomad whenever America wasn't worth standing for. (Until he decided that he needed to remain Cap ESPECIALLY during those times, as a reminder of the ideals they forgot.)
spittytrinkles
I really enjoyed the Nomad series.
Trinik
Thank you so much. That all rings a bell now.
MaterialisticWorm
That'd super interesting, I'm gonna have to look into the Nomad thing!
rshini
Yep, Nomad came during the Nixon era, when people first got really disillusioned with the US