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Jabberwotchi
This is fucking terrifying...
Ragnarok1030
As shitty as it may be..there was no crime.
Lavitzzzzzzzzzz
As a lifeguard this breaks my heart.
RyukTheRed
It wasn't a lake, it was a retention pond and there are signs that tell you to be aware of alligators and you swim at your own risk. 1/2
RyukTheRed
Morally this is just incomprehensible, because they didn't call 911, not because they didn't jump in! 2/2
Muumiankka
In Finland we have this thing called rescue law, that demands anyone who sees someone in life threatening danger is required to (1/2)
Muumiankka
Inform the person and start preventive action, and if not able, call the emergency number (2/2)
AimeeSmith
Wow! Wtf?
edwardfog
Is this that good Samaritan law from the finale of Seinfeld?
zachradman
Interesting thing about Seinfeld... it starts and ends on the same conversation... a series, ultimately about nothing i reckon
ronnoct
That's exactly what I was thinking
stewie67
StepGamerDadSaysFUBusinessDaddy
In Germany they'd allready be charged with "refusal to render assistance in an emergency".
Mithi
In any First World country actually, but this is Florida so ...
dolphinbagel
Upvoting for awareness.
Matzoballz
Wasn't this the last episode of Seinfeld...... except the fat guy didn't get shot and died...... and i think these people suck
protostars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkADj0TPrJA
Dangerneck
Wow. He's gonna be a real productive member of a street gang soon. Cell block sooner. Such a callous monster. He may even be a Congressman!
Cats2cats
There are a lot more of people like this, about to be adults. I see a lot of "accidental" parental deaths happening in the future.
Chawzilla
This is like that scene in that Phil Collins song.
SweetNarNar
From family Guy?
DannyDLC
stan??
badmusicpuns
You mean drowning in the air?
afambelafonte
I've seen your face before my friend, but I don't KNOW IF YOU KNOW WHO I AM.
Anklehurthumpthesink
I remember don't worry. How could I ever forget. It's the first time, the last time, we ever met...met..met
cptcr
you'll be in my heart from the animated Tarzan? Exactly
Willybum84
Badoom badoom badoom badoom boom boom boo...
ILikedTheirOldStuffBetter
Now all I'm picturing is Mike Tyson punching what's his name out in the Hangover.
goflyblind
http://i.imgur.com/cGyvuEX
Slappydupappy
Yes, Easy Lover, w/ Philip Bailey. Dope song.
DukeSlywalker
Uh no... he's clearly referring to Sussudio.
LetMePickMyTeethThenHaveMoreChips2
Before you know it you'll be on your knees.
Merimazing
Too soon, dude. 2 soon
Bobeez
Or that Stevie Smith poem.
WhichIsIt
Great poem
Chawzilla
I'll take your word for it. I don't know who or what that is.
DannyDLC
no it's Stan
adamantos
DEAR MISTER I'M TOO GOOD TO CALL OR WRITE MY FANS
extraordineric
This will be the last package that I ever send your ass
alienaches
It's been 6 months and still no word. I don't deserve it?? I know you got my last two letters, I wrote the addresses on 'em PERFECT.
talldrink413
Florida strikes again :(
Aimanfire
graehall
Jesus that level of detached callous disregard for humanity almost makes the worst of 4Chan look semi-human by comparison.
Fprops
is there no law about "non assistance to a person in danger" in the US? that exists in Europe
sunfried
Laws vary by state, but most states say "no duty to rescue." No legal duty; moral duty is something people have to find in themselves. 1/2
sunfried
Also, I'm betting that no country would require a citizen to place themselves into mortal danger to rescue, and water rescue does that. 2/2
Fprops
no but if you don't call the cops of something, you would be found guilty
Fprops
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_to_rescue
Bambi577
I can't believe we need laws to tell people they're supposed to help someone in danger. Some people are fucking garbage.
1philthy1
Perfectly portrays the sad state of our society
jfunkx15
Florida
DocVolt
*cough* black lives matters but not drowing people one's
zma123456
So next time a black person is drowning, are you going to do the same as these guys? These kids could certainly have been white or brown.
DocVolt
The person drowing is brown.
1NO1
Typical
metalfoto
Still WTF
SB993
He neva did nuffin 2 nobody
michfn2
Sadly yes
Mahfakah
Yep them people
1NO1
AOCsUnshavenChode
what the fuck is wrong with these kids? moral relativity and narcissism is killing this country
FloridaLawyer
FL attorney here - moral argument aside, we have no statute requiring rendering aid and our Good Samaritan statute is not a total shield 1/
FloridaLawyer
2/ from liability. During Bar study, we were presented the question this way: 4 year old Annie Angel is drowning. Michael Phelps and 3/
FloridaLawyer
3/ Dr. Sanjay Gupta see this and do nothing. Annie dies. What are they liable for? Answer - nothing.
malbec
There is a difference in my mind between doing nothing, and laughing about it and uploading video you take
FloridaLawyer
I totally agree. I think what they did was morally repugnant.
malbec
Plus they essentially uploaded a "snuff" film to YouTube. And how is laughing at someone who is drowning and taunting them not cruelty?
CertifiedAgreer
On that last point, cruelty isn't a crime per se and it's important to recognize the difference
SlowerDwightYouIgnorantSlut
Quality, well-raised, contributing members of society here.
bigdirtycroissant
We all know what "teens" means
IvnWng
Give him the key to the city!
FaceBookAI
"Them" it was a whole group laughing at the guy drowning.
malbec
Settle down Trudeau
pugs911
Nice
KanackyBiznasty
Could there be a civil suit?
fistermatic5000
Doubtful. But a lot of states have samaritan laws. If this state does they could be looking at some jail time.
AlkeneThiol
They're all under 16. So no civil suit would be able to go through unless the parents were involved. Also, not to judge a book by its cover,
AlkeneThiol
After investigating further, a good lawyer might actually be able to make it stick against the parents/guardian. Link in reply
AlkeneThiol
https://www.southfloridainjurylawyerblawg.com/2014/08/01/parents-liable-childrens-negligence/
AlkeneThiol
2) but I wouldn't hesitate to place a huge bet that suing these kids would be akin to wringing out a desert rock.
betterthanaboyfriend
My thoughts exactly. Wringing out a desert rock will my new euphemism for extracting penalties from the poor.
sunfried
Well, it's not far from the more common "you can't squeeze blood from a stone."
AlkeneThiol
Hehe. It just kind of came to me. Probably not the first to say it but it seemed fitting
PloppyTheSlopper
To the people saying you shouldn't be charged for standing there, pointing & laughing at someone who's dying...WTF is wrong with you? :/
sunfried
I don't decide to lock up people I don't like, or make up arbitrary crimes to suit them. They didn't break the law by being shitheels.
LCB052711
Because standing there, in Florida, wasn't illegal for them to do. I think it should be, but ex post facto laws are unconstitutional.
zma123456
The only crime I see is that a person was in need, and this person did not called for help. Laughing and pointing shouldn't be a crime.
NotWelcomehere
Yes it should.
youdontknowmeanddontneedto
It shouldn't be its own crime, but it should definitely be evidence of wanton disregard for another's life that should be admissible
somethingnotyettaken
What they did is utter fucking bullshit. But being scum isn't illegal. Despicable, yes, but not criminal.
somethingnotyettaken
(I suppose the 'should' is a bit ambiguous, though; people may be saying they should be able to be charged, not that it should happen now.)
ClickClackTBG
Actually there are a lot of places where it is.
Tk842
Depending on the actions you took, say filming it then posting it online, is actually illegal in alot of places. Thats why snuff films
Tk842
Get murder sentences, even the camera man, accessories. But this will fall into a florida statute that they did not report the death.
BrokeMyFunnyBone
No one committed murder so how can they be accessories?
Tk842
Never said they did, just pointing out that filming something can still make you complicit.
tapthewall
Fucking cocksuckers. How the fuck would they feel if they were bleeding out and someone recorded it and instead of helping video tape it 1/2
tapthewall
And laugh as the last drop of blood let's out of their bodies "oh, I guess they're dead now". Fucking pieces of shit.
baturro
Karna is a muthafucker
tapthewall
They will look up to me and yell "SAVE me" I will go in close to their ear and whisper "no".
MisterOp
L'masteùr du l'édge
Muddskipper2
Edgy
jumpoutgang
Nothin personel kid
Bassaker
GO! teleport outa here
StizostedionVitreum
they didn't commit a crime by not helping, but they solidified being pieces of shit for humans.
cleetdog101
Fucking Seinfeld & friends went to jail for shit not nearly as bad!!!
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Winterfox
Good Samaritan law is to protect you in the case that you do try to save someone It cant compel you to save people
OneSlaadTwoSlaadRedSlaadBlueSlaad
Where I live letting someone die is a crime. And I think that's how it should be.
LetMePickMyTeethThenHaveMoreChips2
This could also be considered a symptom of future violence developing. Like killing cats.
HighFunctioningAlcoholic
In some southern states not helping in life threatening situations is a crime - I'd guess Florida falls into this boat (?)
capnsebastian
im pretty sure this would fall inder some sort of criminal negligence law here in Canada
barnwolf
Nope. Closest is in Ontario where it's a civil law, but it's still not a criminal one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_to_rescue#Canada
Registeredfordeuce
There shouldn't have to be a law requiring people help, it's called being a human being , and these 5 are pieces of shit
vitfall
Depraved indifference?
TommyRottn
Last episode of Seinfeld they all went to jail for not helping and laughing. Good Samaritan law IIRC.
Gafanh0t0
It's a crime here in Brazil, you have to help
adamantos
Here in Switzerland not helping people who are in danger or injured is a serious crime.
OneSlaadTwoSlaadRedSlaadBlueSlaad
Not just in Switzerland, it's a developed county thing.
FlyingSeaMan509
Failing to render aid
Tornadotaco
Not a crime
OnlyOneFuckToGiveUseCarefully
Not to be a smartass, just curious: Does this law also apply if the subject of the video dies off-screen later on, say from injuries?
OldManFU
There could be a Good Samaritan law, misdemeanor for not reporting or helping when a crime is taking place
StarSpangeledAbroad
No they broke the law and committed a crime dude.
Winterfox
what law?
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
They did, actually. An act of omission, specifically not calling for aid on mobile phone, is a crime.
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
DV if you like - I'm right.
triedtothinkofausernamethatwasntalreadytaken
No real crime committed it's like watching a robbery and not calling the cop not illegal but definitely a dick move
Vaenaemoenen
If that's not illegal then the system is lacking.
MisfitToy
Depraved Indifference is a serious crime.
blarglebrle
The crime may have been recording a death and uploading it. The US has laws against that to prevent fucked up stuff from being profitable.
clutchthepearls
It was sent to the sister of the victim and she uploaded it to Facebook. That's when it went viral.
StizostedionVitreum
Did not know that, thanks; (I'm a Canuck)
crashdummy35
This. The upload is the angle.
GQPisadeathcult
Prob is they are kids. So not much will happen. If they are big pieces of shit at his age....it doesn't get any better as adults. Never.
nthensome
Shitty kids tend to become shitty adults.
dooremouse
This is good. Whatever way they can find to fuck these kids up for being shit human being. Find a way.
Uuudd
Trust me, he wouldve found a way himself...
SquidJesus
Who is he? You mean the kid? I think you don't understand assholes, they are assholes to other people, not themselves.
Duendes
Until somebody paid them $, there's no crime and I doubt YT would do such a thing.
illogicalphallusies
if it showed an ad even once, they "got paid"
OgreCyques
What about good samaritan laws?
AluminiumFalcon
Not in Florida. They have stand your ground laws, not save the disabled drowning man laws.
dangerousDoc
You are thinking of Duty to rescue laws
dangerousDoc
Those protect rescuers
boneh3ad
Those just say you can't be sued for trying to help in an emergency. They encourage people to help, not require it.
guerillagirl
It also depends on the state. But calling 911 usually applies - you don't have to do anything further legally.
pineapplesuprise
In America the only time you can really be directly in trouble for not helping is if you are trained to do so, at least if memory serves.
EnderMoth
Sometimes if you have that training you still need to get dispatch permission to act on it. Negligence I think has more about medical career
razetherunner
^ if you have any kind of medical training, nurse, EMT, whatever, you have to stop and offer aid until someone on duty shows up.
TheEightfoldPath
It should be a crime.. In Norway it is, doesn't mean you have to jump into the water but at least do what you can by calling for help etc.
TheEightfoldPath
But then again our justice system also protects a person from being sued for breaking a persons ribs through CPR. Legislature can be moral.
SketchNI
If I stopped breathing and someone broke my ribs and saved my life, id thank them. Not sue them
barnwolf
I'd sue them if I was ignorant and thought the CPR wasn't needed and the breaking ribs were because CPR was incorrectly done.
TheEightfoldPath
That's a whole lot of buts and ifs for a potential life or death situation. Ribs break in cpr all the time,it's natural.
TheEightfoldPath
Most sane people think like that thankfully
TheBlackWindHowls
"You didn't save my life, you ruined my death!"
Justkillmealready
Yeah but you'd need the money to fix your ribs then. And you don't have to worry about money when you're dead.
SketchNI
Nah. I live in the UK.
WoefulWombat
You wouldn't need money to fix your ribs if you lived in a country that gave a shit about its people.
OneSlaadTwoSlaadRedSlaadBlueSlaad
Spotted the one without health care!
iBangYourFace
In Germany you have to help, except your own life is in danger. But you still have to inform the authorities. We have a law for that
guerillagirl
This is also true in some American states, but not all.
SickSith77
Same for the Netherlands
SandroIsTheHero
Denmark too, and I assume, the rest of Scandinavia as well.
flickindabean
We need that sadly wow...I'm disgusted
krownd
same in France, furthermore you are legally forced to perform first aid if you are a health worker
Vaenaemoenen
Same for Finland.
Memaleph
Same for Belgium
TheImgurWarsMadeMe
Frankly I just assumed we had the same type of law over here. It's monstrous that you can watch someone die, not report it, and be fine.
Mentok
The fact these laws are needed is even sadder
StarryNightsInCanada
Same in Canada. Good Samaritan Law. And can't be sued at all so long as you tried. And trying can be as simple as calling 911
illogicalphallusies
no, its not a law that you HAVE to help. just a law that you cant get in trouble for helping
boneh3ad
I saw a report on that and apparently there's an obscure local law about not reporting a death. They didn't and can be charged. Misdemeanor
nthensome
Well, at least it's something.
clutchthepearls
There are in some states, Florida is not one of them.
boneh3ad
The State Attorney disagrees with you: https://goo.gl/ch2WCB
DRinkWis
It says it's a test case because they've never tried this before. Terrible people? Yup. Against the law? Naaa
boneh3ad
It's a test case because it's the law but it's never been prosecuted this way before.
laughdog
Lawyered
clutchthepearls
That's what I get for reading the article. :(
boneh3ad