Feb 9, 2018 11:48 PM
myownhotafkoolimgername
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poorwhitetrash
It's pronounced Gif.
Gopher1964
v
viking272
About 25 years ago I met a graphics coder (he developed on Atari ST/Falcon) who had spoken with CompuServe (copyright owners) on using
their GIF format. He told me they pronounced it jiff. He said he respected that and calls it jiff also. I told him it will always be gif! :)
c00lbeans69
This is more controversial than any political post I've seen to date
HockeyFighter69
@ilookfuckingcool
ilookfuckingcool
Jod lolololol
Right!!!
OneTrueGif
The "g" is mother fucking silent! You pronounce "gif" by saying "if"... DUH! /s
WellThatsOriginal
But it allows you to watch the video in a jiffy.
lDontWanna
giraffe
its over. I won.
TitanKyojin
I don't give a fuck. It's gif. If you want to pronounce it jif it's okay to be wrong.
SocoFox
Doc Brown was saying "gigawatt".
IwentLookingForWhatTheBiggestIdiotHasToSayAndHereYouAre
says "Jod" is immediately struck by lightning
Jawesome19
You can't pry my pronunciation when you take it from my cold, dead hands!!!
KingPolicy
I enjoy the arguments more than the actual issue
Couldn’t agree more lol
tinypixiexoxo
https://media.tenor.com/images/8f80158ef880502190e5a373a094fddd/tenor.gif
wow longest url ever, srry
SometimesIfindmyselfstaringatwomensbreastwhenImtryingtoconverse
Like, which way should the toiletpaper go?
officialmisunderstanding
well then, I have the gif for you!
Boyd862
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ImLyingToYouGuys
Thats good, I'd like the transcript for this
@Technohawk is the original poster. maybe he can help?
Technohawk
v (Didn't write them down anywhere but in the gif.)
grovberg
I find it especially funny because it’s entirely based around justifying what you’re used to saying. It’s totally arbitrary.
MilesPrower
It's not totally arbitrary. One side has linguistics, the creator, and logic on their side; the other has muh fifis.
TehKingORuss
Get out of here with your logical arguments.
Viol8or
Uh, no, the "Jif" side does not have linguistics and logic on their side. They have the creator, and a lame peanut butter pun.
philbagg
“Jraphics interchange format”... yep, flawless linguistic logic
XIIV13C100111
So you're saying that acronyms like SCUBA should be pronounced scuhbaa? Flawless linguistic logic right there
itspronouncedjiff
You called my username and left a message?
ghsdkgb
Wait, God could come down with a million *whats* now?
divitu
Angles
OldSchoolNewRules
Mornin' Angle.
alsoAzrael
"an-geh-lees"
tzahtman
It is odd to see people act like they are just now learning that the same letter can be pronounced different ways in English.
alecdshope
Not so much that as what the rules are. "Gif" like "gift" or "graphic." Steve Wilhite was a troll.
Jocktopus
The difference is just that there is logic to both sides of the argument other than "it sounds right".
heghmoh
I for one cannot wrap my head around it, it drives me to drink. Would anyone else like a gin and tonic?
BillJohnson
My gypsy friend and I were just watching the giraffes after our trip to Georgia.
Dravit
Guinness for me.
AnotherHeartwarmingPostByAbortedFetusNecrophiliac
*Juinness
ButtFaceChase
I’d like a gigantic gin and tonic and drink it with my ginger friend
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
As a Geoff, I prefer gin when germane, but if I start seeing gyrating giraffes, I know I've gone past my preferred genre.
RSEVB
Graphic Interchange Format.
[deleted]
But the “p” in “jpeg” has no “h” after it which makes the “f” sound, whereas the “g” in “graphics” is standalone in both.
I get that. But comparing it to "photographic" doesn't work well. The "p" in "photograph" is pronounced like an "f" because there's a (1/2)
"h" after it. Whereas in "jpeg" there isn't, so it can be pronounced differently. Whereas the "g" from "graphic" isn't pronounced any (2/?)
Choosy mothers choose Gif.
DaniaAudax
skidadleskidoodlemydickisanoodle
Allanonshea1
The first moment you see a glimpse of gandalf's real power and you realize he is a scary motherfucker
SoundtrackOfGifs
SpankmyMankey
Should have had the end with Frodo yelling “Jandalf! Noooo!!!”
tehPhreakmang
OptimisticDownvoteLover
This is wonderful
OobedoobScoobyDoobyBenubi
SomebodyStoleBothOfMyBigToes
My reaction to this meme
tazedconfused
Nice!
ekgirl89
"Gackass"
BaldVinnie
fucking gold
KoolStoryBrah
Jold
MikeTheScientist
Drjeckal
Worth every frame
dictatorchang
That was one wild ride
spospartan104
666 you're welcome
I lost it at Jondor
sonicthehedgefundhog
Gackass
Legoland!
falconca
Lejoland
HeywouldJablowme
I lost it at Gackass
This is why I still love @imgur, the comments from everyone who enhance the post! Ty
Phasikk
"It drains my data plan in minutes", should have seen that coming in a .gif with 175MB
thistlecrown
doot
OscarsEstus
Kek
mistermiggs
Listen, Legoland
oldestImgurInTown
That's where I went...
GoodForYouu
I fucking died right there!
FuzzyNuggets
This is gold
You’ve never seen this before? Where have you been?
StatmanIbrahimovic
Over there
*jold
RealScienceMan
I motion that we solve this problem by just using other file types.
gewalt
we dont even use gifs. if you upload one to imgur, it gets immediately converted
Gmayor61
Videos do get converted to Gifv, but normal gifs are still around. At least, I've seen several vanilla gif files here
HelloToe
Amen, it's basically obsolete anyway.
AudaciousCheeseburger
We can't see your motion if you don't use a GIF.
LetsBeReasonable
Expert in reasonableness here (with formal Linguistics Training). Formal standards of pronunciation are irrelevant. As long as /1
your understood by your audience a word is considered to be linguistically viable. Language planning processes are usually unsuccessful /2
outside of formal (eg written) formats. Interestingly the reasons why people come up for definitions / pronunciatiosn are called /3
folk etymologies. Each way of pronouncing the word word is correct and viable, and what we are seeing is sociological justification /F
*you're
TheCeilingIsLava
I have never seen so much support for the proper pronunciation on imgur before.
Neither have I. Maybe it's because the people in the image are literally saying they'd argue with a theoretical all-knowing being about who
I see what you did there.
is right.
PoliteButFactualCanadian
Also: I'll have a GUH-IN and tonic please.
Actually gin is derived from the juniper berry so retains the soft G. It has a very good reason for the pronunciation as J
daune
jo jet a jun and pull the trijjer my nijja.
Iankill
Isn't God just a reference though not his proper name so Christians can avoid the commandment about taking his name in vain
ArtArchive
That's kind of half true. The commandment means "don't treat God lightly". But the christian God classically goes by many names.
KongBjoern
i'm pretty sure it's jews but IDK bout christians after all they're both abrahamic faith, as christendom derived from jewism
pgarc90
My understanding is that "god" was a term used by the Norse to refer to both of their groups of gods the Aesir and the Valr.
The Aesir and Valr were different, but coexisted and were both worshiped. So, "gods" was used as a catch all, IIRC.
Nevermind, I'm way off. It's Vanr, not Valr. Although this is interesting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_(word)#Tribal_names
simreal
The general rule is this: if the letter after 'g' is 'e', 'i' or 'y', the pronunciation is a 'soft g' as in 'fringe'. general, giant, etc
weaselodooms
it's an acronym not a noun...it stands for Graphics Interchange Format
Doesn't matter
yes it does because it was originally G.I.F.
No. If its an acronym you say G I F. You don't say gif or jif. When you pronounce it like a word you use english language rules. like George
justanotheravocado
But, but, it’s a graphics file...
And? SCUBA.
ReverseTrapTsukasa
You probably call it aluminium too
Why yes I do. While we're at it, how do you pronounce bitumen? Bitch you men Or Bye chew men?
There's a reason aluminium is wrong. https://imgur.com/sx28pIr and if you need more https://books.google.com/books?id=YjMwAAAAYAAJ page 201
Essentially the guy who discovered it named as was his right, it but someone else popularized the wrong name for the way it sounded.
Hasn't come up in my daily life so I've not had to pronounce it. according to Google it's either bəˈt(y)o͞omən or bīˈt(y)o͞omən. So it would
be Bet-you-men or Bite-you-men for an easier way to read it.
TIL something. Always wondered what the story was with that. In Australia, we use aluminium exclusively.
slydude71
the word giant is pronounced with a J
IMadeThisSoICanSaveFavorites
give/gift are way more similar and are a hard g
Giraffe.
The point is there's no hard rule and it's ridiculous to claim one of the two is wrong.
lacuaba
What about gin? Literally one letter away yet it’s a soft g (I don’t care how people pronounce it as English is v inconsistent)
St0pthatsh1t
What about Guinnes ?
WherePoetryComesToDie
"Giant" was lifted from the French géant, while "graphics" is a direct lift of graphicus/graphikós.
mistlefoot
So you pronounce it JFEG? since it's a direct lift of Joint Photographic Experts Group?
If it was spelled JΦEG, then yes. But since the acronym only uses the 1st letter and not the root Greek phi character, I think /p/ is right.
abcedertree
Look up SCUBA and then explain why we pronounce it SCOO-BAH.
Not an etymologist or linguist, but English has a habit of favoring the long U if it's before a single consonant and a vowel... (1/x)
And the short U if it's before an ending consonant or precedes a combination of consonants. All that said, I suspect we agree... (2/x)
Just pointing out that justifying either position based on the variability of pronunciation is a poor argument, but if you're going to (3/x)
phukerstone
well it isn't jraphics interchange format so....
Technically it should be L.A.S.E.R since it stands for light Amplification (by) Stimulated Emission (of) Radiation
And before you ask, I don't know if I'm fun at parties. I'm too busy saving the internet from mispronunciations
QuaqueNocte
If that's the case then Ikea should be pronounced "EE Key-Uo"
CoffinFullOfPudding
In Sweden they say Ee-kay-uh
Well they are Swedish.
FrankPerkele
Imagine if they were danish, then it would be even more confusing
..I'm intrigued to hear how a Danish person would pronounce it without influence.
echonite
Because there are no other words where G is pronounced like a J... none at all. Totally not like the word... Judge, fridge, George...
MoistenedPenguin
Scuba: self-contained underwater breathing apparatus. You pronounce that sk-uh-bah?
HunterEx
Wait how else does one pronounce it?
FacemanPeck
Scooba
GregoriusDaneli
In addition, "laser"—light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation... should we start saying 'lah-SEER' instead of 'LAY-zer'?
LeninOfficial
In Sweden we actually say lah-SEER, so I guess it's all valid as long as we can understand each other.
Was waiting for the European lol
ducklingsuck
SaintsWorth
Gym Gigantic generation gigantic geography.... There are more
Try 3 letter words only Gad Gag Gah Gal Gap Gar Gas Gay Get Gig Git Gob God Goo Got Gum Gun Gut Guy Gym - Greek Gel - French Gin - Juniper
SkeletonsNeedLoveToo
I specifically say jift in order to make people angry.
sammyismycat
Jift
Giraffe
14November
In swedish, "gift" is a word, pronounced "jift". Means poison. Also married.
LickLickLickMyBalls2
I see no difference
LessanderoCortez
In german its pronounced "gift". But it still means poison.
nashpotato
In english its pronounced gift but its spelt poison...oh wait
GoodChange
If you want to tell an English speaker how to pronounce the Swedish gift the right way is "yift" with a y not a j
So it's .yif now? Oh my..
BlackElkSpeaks
Two can play this game. Is it pronounced 'Jinger' or 'Ginger'? 'Gym' or 'Jym'? 'Jigolo' or 'Gigolo'? 'Genes' or 'Jenes'? 'Jermany' (1)
But those don't resemble it as much as give and gift. The creator is free to decide how it's called, but how it's spelled is up to language.
Or 'Germany'? 'Jerms' or 'Germs'? 'Giraffe' or 'Jiraffe'? 'Jentlemen' or 'Gentlemen'? (2)
SaiikoTA
Tell that to my jrandpa, he enjoys jore and will shoot you with his juns you jodless piece of joon
Puhsketti
Hotel? Trivajo.
sciencebasedlifeform
ItsNotASchoonerItsASailboat
Uh, I think the game is more "is it pronounced giraffe or giraffe? Is it pronounced data or data?"
Uh,
ImMrLiteral
Yes.
GekkoKid
If we go by old english, it's pronounced...(shudders)...yiff
tardisRetardis
Yes. Because yiff were used in late 1700-is.
cbotce
Late 1700-is wasn't old English, though. However, I guess he meant how it would be using the rules of pronunciation from OE
You must be fun at parties :P
Sabruka
what have you done
attofreak
yiff it's true, we have to accept it >:)
Pootisborn
TolstoyTheFox
FreyjaAE
ScionOfEights
Baeloro
Sounds like a good time.
Bimmler
But the Y is just a misreading of the old English thorn which is pronounced ... Oh wait, you mean furry porn. Ok I'll shut up.
DagothUr2ElectricDwemerCube
AleksandrBlazkowicz
GrimxMaka
Oh my yod..
IMightBeIntoSomeWeirdStuff
LogicalUpset
If you pronounce it according to spanish rules it’s hif <.<
PastelSugarCookies
OwO
ElbowDeepInAHorse
AwildBidoof
RUN AWAY!!! https://media.giphy.com/media/B6G2MYBmtnGYU/giphy.gif
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ab/2a/65/ab2a65def9828ff5904e1eb9fb20494b.gif
Snoopi252
Holy fuck that Quality! Its Gorgeus!
KawaNyx
In hell!
dgibz42069
Furfag!
ImgurAddict1
Elliot, you fucking furfag!
thechelonianshelmet
In that case you could have a yiff squeezing jiff in a giff & seriously fuck up someone's day
Rainbowtrout117
KayRaven
Do. Not. Yiff. The. Fox.
Irreal
What about the bunny?
DO NOT YIFF ANY OF THEM OR YOU'RE FIRED
MashedTaterForts
Ok, YekkoKid, I'll keep that in mind
Sirsir94
djsdkdjsk
Craazyy1
https://memestatic.fjcdn.com/pictures/Wash+your+fursuit+saw+this+on+a+gypsydude+dump+and_8bf9a4_6278281.jpg
JonestownClassPresident
SexualConsent
Yiff you say?
Zelkon527
mascaralvb
Just proof that language changes meaning and pronunciation over time. And that's ok, grandma, I can say awesome without over using it!
theidiocywizard
THEFURRYJESUS
yes
publicbionic
Dude that's how you get murdered.
Sernikb
CatzEyes93
NOW YOU'VE DONe IT
But why the fuck would we go by old English?
Maldraek
the furries: https://imgur.com/NOECI0s
IPoisonedDorcasMutton
Sigh... @ElbowDeepInAHorse any input?
My bad. Must have missed that.
Shrais
he replied after your comment, amusingly his reply and your comment were right next to each other
That's not furry sex, it's just bestiality.
furrydumpsterfire
Achromos
trhopkins
DO NOT Google that!
DEFINITELY Google that
Perv! XD
Username... hopefully checks out?
You know it
ohnoofcourseyourright
I imagine borat saying this lol
dorpjorp
Okay, thanks, Yod. I'll keep that in mind.
gleely
If I wanted someone else's comeback I would have wiped it off your mom's chin.
GiantDad420
Well time to never use reactions ever again.
Hjaelmenator
ianrl337
You rang?
Djwaifu02
ElbowdeepinaBulbasaur
medsal15
SnappleCactus
Yiff me wolfdaddy
Nandabun
MORE WOLFJOB!
BARRY
TheRealTR8R
Incoming, haha
albinoALPACA
Gamergrl09
Jadecomet
This is somehow even funnier.
Soupertrooper
The animation in that move is so fucking good.
BishlamekGurpgork
I'm gonna guess he just opened a door leading to a room covered with framed dick pics.
Close, he opened the door to a nude resort
Oh, I've seen the movie, but a hall of framed dick pics was funnier to me. :)
NotABench
ThomasTheSexyVampire
YES. VERY!
LocalSemiFriendlyRabbitGal
That is a lot of stuff to take in all at once.
nexusband
There is not enough...! Man, there is that one comic between those two, that's having a cliff hangar for 8 months now...
https://pandagif.com/gifs/577P61GZhJ.gif
That could actually be my gf...
Lambdafish1
Username relevant
That subtle tail wagging is a killer
HerrFraeulein
I'm not well versed in furry vernacular, what does yiff stand for or mean?
porn / furry sex
Specifically, yiff is furry porn, but to yiff is to have sex
GmanLV300
It comes from the sound foxes make when they "do the deed".
Sex
Between your avatar & your name, you seem to be the expert: Why do furries not just call it "sex"? I was expecting a clever acronym :-)
To my knowledge, Paradox here is accurate
MissPhoenix56
Apparently something about the sound foxes make when they do it
Yup
Ok, thank you. My curiosity is now satisfied.
FAECI
Creator of the file format says jif, but in the end, it's an acronym and not a word, so there is no right way.
Daemencer
Look up the definition of an acronym then. Maybe that'll help you understand how wrong your comment is.
DukeDarkwood
An acronym is being said AS a word. (If you have to spell it out, it is only an initialism.)
Delathi
Pedantic: There are multiple right ways.
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
ThatJerkYouKnow
Right? The creator of it can say it’s pronounced “bof” But I’m not doing that stupid shit
Saltyisthesea
I used to say gif until I read Steve Wilhite pronounces it with a "j".
mineovermatter
WRONG.jif
Ha, i juess so
jimmythehat1
There is a .jif file extension. JPEG Image File.
It's just jpeg
burgonies
Pronounced jay-feg
Clearly
False. Acronyms have proper pronunciation. PIN, SCUBA, LASER, for example.
Dictionary agrees on all of those, not for gif. It says both are correct, and they are the authority on that.
kentleigh
I'm gonna start saying "gee-eye-eff", to piss off both parties.
margaretolson
I honestly don't get why some people get so argumentative over it.
There's also a graphics format that is called JIF, wtf do we do?
NateintheNorth
Say it gee eye eff.
UWantSumFuk
But there is a wrong way
AlbinoPanther
I pronounce it as giff because it stands for "graphics interchange format" and "giff" uses the correct pronunciation for the first letters.
What about scuba, laser, or radar?
JPEG
Yeah, jfeg
capughe
Before I heard others saying it, I just spelled out the letters. Gee Eye Eff.
Exquisitine
There's no absolute "right way" for words either; it's all determined by what is commonly accepted.
The right way is the way that it is commonly accepted.
GrammarBolshevik
Different dialects of any language have different pronunciations and different vocabularies, so not "correct" just "accepted"
AleksanderLehti
http://howtoreallypronouncegif.com
A-A-ron can suck a dick about pronunciations.
Stux15
Look man..... How do you say "graphical"? End of discussion
Look man, how do you say underwater? End of discussion. (Scuba)
cancerriddenlung
Do you think people from the UK argue this much about the pronunciation?
Xenarion
I use a hard "g" because .jif is a thing.
QueenOfProcrastination13
I honestly said gif until I heard others say gif, and also "it's a GIFt". Plus it stands for graphic, not generated, so imo it goes guh. 1/2
...first of all I'm facepalming that I spelled it the same way both times... (I honestly said *jif until i heard others say gif). Anyway 2/3
So then to hear that the creator calls it jif, I now go back and forth and don't care, and when others argue about it I just wanna move on.
I like this answer!
QUIBICUS
NO ITS GIF JIF IS FUCKING PEANUT BUTTER!!!!!
Garvinsgarden
Giganitic giraffe
Joblessgymshorts
Yeah that's why he named it that because moms like you choose jif was a popular jingle at the time. He thought it was punny
Grandmastersexsay2
Then he should have spelled it that way.
It's an acronym? And G can be pronounced as a J just like it is in many other words? Giraffe, gym, giant, etc?
Or you can pronounce the G like graphics.
Scuba, laser, radar, tell me you pronounce those like the words the represent. Protip: you don't.
bobalooba28
So.... I’m admitting my ignorance and I gotta ask what the acronym stands for, please tell
Graphics interchange format, though that is irrelevant to pronunciation
Found the peanut butter fanboy.
Found sk-uh-bah guy
I had no idea, thanks!
ThatsMySecretCapImAlwaysHorny
I think Smuckers should sue him for trademark infringement.
Crossark
Correction; acronyms are initialisms that can be pronounced as words, so there is technically a grammatically correct pronunciation. (1/2)
That said, it's pretty obscure grammar, so I just stick by the policy that I don't correct someone unless they start the argument. (2/2)
Dictionary says both are grammatically correct, so, neither is THE correct way. Just A correct way.
Nah, the dictionary says both are accepted pronunciations, which is totally cool. They don't comment on English pronunciations rules.
If they are both valid pronunciations, then neither breaks a grammatical rule, no?
People pronounce criminy as "CRIME-inee" and "CRIM-inee". The first is technically correct, but it's a regional thing. Dictionaries (1/2)
P.S.: When you have g-i- followed by a single consonant, it's a j sound. It's a rule we integrated from French. Giraffe, gigantic, (1/2)
ginormous, gingivitis (two-for-one there); an exception is gibberish, which is weird because it's based on "gib" as in mouth. (2/2)
Oh, also, if there's two consonants after it, it's almost always a hard g, and if there's a vowel after it, it's usually soft.
ruferto
and he's wrong and that's sad. he created the damn thing
[Citation needed]
literally every other word starting with "gif" in the english language is pronounced that way, not as if it starts with a j
So? Lots of words with just Gi are pronounced like a J, what does the F do?
settles the pronounciation
Frizoggy
I'll start pronouncing scuba: scub-ay.
RydWolf
"Scubb-why. Why? Because I can!"
bryanthehumanbeing
Everyone knows the U stands for "underwater", so it's sc-uuh-ba
danishjuggler21
Why not?
Somanyquestions
And Radar as Rawdar
That's actually how Spanish speakers say it, as they have fairly consistent pronunciation rules.
I could also pull out the dictionary argument, where gif and jif are correct but only the scooba pronunciation is correct lol.
LeonQuin87
So maybe we should says GEE AI EF
Too much effort :p
These would be Initials. Not an acronym.
Sammyv17
My name Gee ai ef!
aCartographer
JEE AI EF
GEE AI EF!
GrumpleStache
How does one pronounce "GUI" or better yet. "Graphic"
I have never heard anything other than reading out the letters in GUI, and what an acronym stands for doesn't dictate pronounciation.
DarkTwiz
I fully pronounce G-U-I, but in University the profs and younger generation pronounce it Gooey. I don't know...
What counts as younger generation? I'm only 19?
That's about right, I'm generalizing of course.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
I'm in my 40s, work in software dev, and have never heard anyone spell it out. It's always "gooey". Maybe it's regional, I don't think /1
it's generational though. /2
Actually people who invent words determine how they're pronounced. Knight, pneumonia, are examples.
I too say jif. But tell that to the dictionary, you know?
TielKiri
Neither of these were invented by a specific person, they were both developed naturally just like most of language, both the k in knight-
and the p in pneumonia were both originally pronounced, and in the inventor of something had ultimate authority on such-
matters, then Uranus's name would be George, as its discoverer insisted it be named. And in any case that's not how language works.
nohabloespanol
"Jopher1964"
Lol
Gin is my favourite one. It's literally one letter off and has the J sound.
Gin is a poor example http://howtoreallypronouncegif.com
The origin of the word doesn't in fact matter. The only thing that matters is that there are these exceptions. That alone makes it valid.
So, not only does it meet already established english rules, which that there are exceptions, it's also what the inventor intended.
Andalite
He's not a fucking linguist
Allrighty
I'd venture that neither are you.
snoogans671
Neither are parents that say YzdfYtx is pronounced like Sandra, but the creators get input into what its called and how its pronounced
Maybe they get input, but no more than every other Yahoo on the internet. If YzdfYtx tells me it's Yizz-dif-yittix, that's what I go with,
And fuck that lame ass 'Sandra' bullshit.
So? He invented the acronym. That's like saying a company can't choose how it's never is pronounced.
How it's name* is pronounced. I'm no pro at typing.
Clitastrophe
I'm gonna start a company, call it HENTAI, but it's pronounced "Art".
cmdrcat
Do it.
Sure, why not?
Yes, I get the joke. Please save me the pain.
eldieron24
The creator said it, so that's how it is. Acronyms still have pronunciation
I'm a jif guy because nobody has ever made a strong aregument for gif, but that's just me. Dictionary says both :/
Their argument is it comes from graphics interface format (I think), and graphics has a hard g. The counterargument to that is scuba
And laser, and radar, yeah I know. Like I said, no strong arguments.
MadeForMature
There are plenty of strong arguments backed by Linguistics. The creator chose that pronunciation, but had to clarify because people naturall
http://howtoreallypronouncegif.com/
when words are created from acronyms they follow the same rules of pronunciation as any other word so it would not be a soft G
notanimposter
When I was a wee lass and I saw my first cat.gif, I read it as "cat dot jif", and it stuck. Pronounce it however seems right to you!
SnarkyOstrich
Aye, pronouncing it the RIGHT way I see
OmnipresentRage
It's a graphic, not a peanut butter.
Scuba, It's underwater, not oonderwater.
Is this agreeing with my comment or not? Because mine was a joke that it isn't "JIF" because it's not a peanut butter.
itskindofapunnystory
He’s making the point that that’s a useless argument since it’s silly to say since a thing is pronounced one way nothing else can anymore
DarthDeadpool
Well it's not jraphics interchange format now is it?
Is gift pronounced jift?
I love that snoop dogg jam, “Gin (hard G) and juice”
Gin is more similar to gif than gift is? TIL
Exactly!
NuclearBuddha
Why are they booing you?! You're right!
Mishn0
Like "giraffics"?
Doesn't matter, it's an acronym. Pronounced as a separate word with the language pronunciation rules applied to it. Giraffe, not Guiraffe
BatmanRidingANarwhal
Gerard, gym, gigantic, generation, generosity, etc. And those are just words that START with the soft G. So your argument is invalid
'Generosity interchange format' would be 'jif'. 'Graphics interchange format' is a hard 'g', therefore 'gif'.
Dustorn
So, bringing up a previously mentioned word, SCUBA should be pronounced skuh-buh, rather than skoo-buh? Because no one does that.
Gift, give, etc. It's gif with a hard g.
Why is this downvoted? The closest english word we have is gift. It's not shocking to assume it's pronounced the same way as gift.
Graphic is not one of those words. The argument, while not absolute, does have weight.
GeorgeHWBushsGhost
We pronounce Giraffe as Jiraffe and Gift as Gift. The G has no constant sound.
twozerooz
It does follow rules though. English is a hybrid of multiple languages. All words with French roots follow French rules and have soft G's
HaniiPuppy
Well, it does. The problem is that it has 2. (Or more if you include digraphs and diphthongs)
When I first saw "gif", I immediately thought of "gift" and pronounced it accordingly. Saying "jif" never even occurred to me. Especially /1
since there's already a known spelling for "jif", the peanut butter. /2
WhyAreThoseCaptchaThingsSoFuckingHardToRead
How do you pronounce "gin"?
How do you pronounce gift though? The argument doesn't really work because english has multiple answers.
'Graphics' is a hard 'g', ergo its acronym does too.
What about the other common image format, JPEG?
mritty
SCUBA. Ergo, your argument is completely incorrect.
LittleLink
Oh I'm sorry let go to Africa and see a Guh-rrafe
The point isn't that those words do not exist, but that graphic is not one of them.
But, as has been addressed many times, acronyms don't always abide by the pronunciation of the words that they contain.
I wouldn't suggest it as a universal rule. It just seems like a sensible dividing line with the typical rules of pronunciation are so
ModernFalconer
That'd be a neat GIFT
DragonsLoveTacosButHateSpicySalsa
We also don’t pronounce SCUBA as skuh-buh. Acronym pronunciation doesn’t follow the underlying words they abbreviate.
InspectorGoole
I pronounce SCUBA as 'Skuh-buh'. How the hell do you pronounce it?
80percentlegs
Skoo-buh
antiqueroadshow
I’m just here to point out that Zoology is pronounced Zo-ology not Zoo-ology
Thanks, I was going to direct him to this exact point :p
To piggyback onto that point there is also 'AWOL' or 'SWAT' for example.
bigvox
Or PETA ( should be pet-aa, not Pee- tah)
hawaiicanal89
Laser and radar, too
NASA
But there are general rules of pronunciation that provide a clear preference in those cases. Gif is ambiguous. Taking the sound from its
Root doesn't seem unreasonable in this case.
Sanosky
"we also don't pronounce SCUBA skuh-buh" uh maybe you don't but I definitely do...what does this scuba stand for btw
jiynxed
If you're trying to pronounce it like the letters in each word are you're doing it wrong. Gotta put a Boston stank on it -scuhbah
self-contained underwater breathing apparatus
Closest wor to gif is gift, end of discussion.
But gif pronounced like gift doesn't sound like a word, because it isn't. So it doesn't matter if you use a j sound.
If you pronounce jiff because the creator wanted to make a pun instead of looking at already existing words, you don't understand language
Imgurians like puns butt hate gif being pronounced jif. The whole reason it was pronounced jif was to be a pun of "Moms like you choose Jif"
RetardVillain
What with the butt hate
harrynippleclamps
I kinda like "butt hate" more.
pothocket
How is that a pun though?
TheLetterKay
That's not a pun...and not even funny.
Well I got the pun wrong see the other comment below. Also since when are puns funny?
That's kinda the point. They are a humorous play on words.
MrAgnosticman
I love puns butt
SirTiberius
It was from Jif peanut butter commercials. "Choosy moms choose Jif!" so "Choosy developers choose Gif!"
Thank you I messed that one up
poorwhitetrash
It's pronounced Gif.
Gopher1964
viking272
About 25 years ago I met a graphics coder (he developed on Atari ST/Falcon) who had spoken with CompuServe (copyright owners) on using
viking272
their GIF format. He told me they pronounced it jiff. He said he respected that and calls it jiff also. I told him it will always be gif! :)
c00lbeans69
This is more controversial than any political post I've seen to date
HockeyFighter69
@ilookfuckingcool
ilookfuckingcool
Jod lolololol
HockeyFighter69
Right!!!
OneTrueGif
The "g" is mother fucking silent! You pronounce "gif" by saying "if"... DUH! /s
WellThatsOriginal
But it allows you to watch the video in a jiffy.
lDontWanna
giraffe
lDontWanna
its over. I won.
TitanKyojin
I don't give a fuck. It's gif. If you want to pronounce it jif it's okay to be wrong.
SocoFox
Doc Brown was saying "gigawatt".
IwentLookingForWhatTheBiggestIdiotHasToSayAndHereYouAre
says "Jod" is immediately struck by lightning
Jawesome19
You can't pry my pronunciation when you take it from my cold, dead hands!!!
KingPolicy
I enjoy the arguments more than the actual issue
myownhotafkoolimgername
Couldn’t agree more lol
tinypixiexoxo
https://media.tenor.com/images/8f80158ef880502190e5a373a094fddd/tenor.gif
tinypixiexoxo
wow longest url ever, srry
SometimesIfindmyselfstaringatwomensbreastwhenImtryingtoconverse
Like, which way should the toiletpaper go?
officialmisunderstanding
well then, I have the gif for you!
Boyd862
.
ImLyingToYouGuys
Thats good, I'd like the transcript for this
officialmisunderstanding
@Technohawk is the original poster. maybe he can help?
Technohawk
grovberg
I find it especially funny because it’s entirely based around justifying what you’re used to saying. It’s totally arbitrary.
MilesPrower
It's not totally arbitrary. One side has linguistics, the creator, and logic on their side; the other has muh fifis.
TehKingORuss
Get out of here with your logical arguments.
Viol8or
Uh, no, the "Jif" side does not have linguistics and logic on their side. They have the creator, and a lame peanut butter pun.
philbagg
“Jraphics interchange format”... yep, flawless linguistic logic
XIIV13C100111
So you're saying that acronyms like SCUBA should be pronounced scuhbaa? Flawless linguistic logic right there
itspronouncedjiff
You called my username and left a message?
ghsdkgb
Wait, God could come down with a million *whats* now?
divitu
Angles
OldSchoolNewRules
Mornin' Angle.
alsoAzrael
"an-geh-lees"
tzahtman
It is odd to see people act like they are just now learning that the same letter can be pronounced different ways in English.
alecdshope
Not so much that as what the rules are. "Gif" like "gift" or "graphic." Steve Wilhite was a troll.
Jocktopus
The difference is just that there is logic to both sides of the argument other than "it sounds right".
heghmoh
I for one cannot wrap my head around it, it drives me to drink. Would anyone else like a gin and tonic?
BillJohnson
My gypsy friend and I were just watching the giraffes after our trip to Georgia.
Dravit
Guinness for me.
AnotherHeartwarmingPostByAbortedFetusNecrophiliac
*Juinness
ButtFaceChase
I’d like a gigantic gin and tonic and drink it with my ginger friend
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
As a Geoff, I prefer gin when germane, but if I start seeing gyrating giraffes, I know I've gone past my preferred genre.
RSEVB
Graphic Interchange Format.
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philbagg
But the “p” in “jpeg” has no “h” after it which makes the “f” sound, whereas the “g” in “graphics” is standalone in both.
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philbagg
I get that. But comparing it to "photographic" doesn't work well. The "p" in "photograph" is pronounced like an "f" because there's a (1/2)
philbagg
"h" after it. Whereas in "jpeg" there isn't, so it can be pronounced differently. Whereas the "g" from "graphic" isn't pronounced any (2/?)
RSEVB
Choosy mothers choose Gif.
DaniaAudax
skidadleskidoodlemydickisanoodle
.
Allanonshea1
The first moment you see a glimpse of gandalf's real power and you realize he is a scary motherfucker
SoundtrackOfGifs
.
SpankmyMankey
Should have had the end with Frodo yelling “Jandalf! Noooo!!!”
tehPhreakmang
OptimisticDownvoteLover
This is wonderful
OobedoobScoobyDoobyBenubi
SomebodyStoleBothOfMyBigToes
tazedconfused
DaniaAudax
Nice!
ekgirl89
"Gackass"
BaldVinnie
fucking gold
KoolStoryBrah
Jold
MikeTheScientist
Drjeckal
Worth every frame
dictatorchang
That was one wild ride
spospartan104
666 you're welcome
KingPolicy
I lost it at Jondor
sonicthehedgefundhog
Gackass
DaniaAudax
Legoland!
falconca
Lejoland
HeywouldJablowme
I lost it at Gackass
myownhotafkoolimgername
This is why I still love @imgur, the comments from everyone who enhance the post! Ty
Phasikk
"It drains my data plan in minutes", should have seen that coming in a .gif with 175MB
thistlecrown
doot
OscarsEstus
Kek
mistermiggs
Listen, Legoland
oldestImgurInTown
That's where I went...
GoodForYouu
I fucking died right there!
FuzzyNuggets
This is gold
DaniaAudax
You’ve never seen this before? Where have you been?
StatmanIbrahimovic
Over there
tehPhreakmang
*jold
RealScienceMan
I motion that we solve this problem by just using other file types.
gewalt
we dont even use gifs. if you upload one to imgur, it gets immediately converted
Gmayor61
Videos do get converted to Gifv, but normal gifs are still around. At least, I've seen several vanilla gif files here
HelloToe
Amen, it's basically obsolete anyway.
AudaciousCheeseburger
We can't see your motion if you don't use a GIF.
LetsBeReasonable
Expert in reasonableness here (with formal Linguistics Training). Formal standards of pronunciation are irrelevant. As long as /1
LetsBeReasonable
your understood by your audience a word is considered to be linguistically viable. Language planning processes are usually unsuccessful /2
LetsBeReasonable
outside of formal (eg written) formats. Interestingly the reasons why people come up for definitions / pronunciatiosn are called /3
LetsBeReasonable
folk etymologies. Each way of pronouncing the word word is correct and viable, and what we are seeing is sociological justification /F
LetsBeReasonable
*you're
TheCeilingIsLava
I have never seen so much support for the proper pronunciation on imgur before.
MilesPrower
Neither have I. Maybe it's because the people in the image are literally saying they'd argue with a theoretical all-knowing being about who
Gopher1964
I see what you did there.
MilesPrower
is right.
PoliteButFactualCanadian
Also: I'll have a GUH-IN and tonic please.
Gopher1964
Actually gin is derived from the juniper berry so retains the soft G. It has a very good reason for the pronunciation as J
daune
jo jet a jun and pull the trijjer my nijja.
Iankill
Isn't God just a reference though not his proper name so Christians can avoid the commandment about taking his name in vain
ArtArchive
That's kind of half true. The commandment means "don't treat God lightly". But the christian God classically goes by many names.
KongBjoern
i'm pretty sure it's jews but IDK bout christians after all they're both abrahamic faith, as christendom derived from jewism
pgarc90
My understanding is that "god" was a term used by the Norse to refer to both of their groups of gods the Aesir and the Valr.
pgarc90
The Aesir and Valr were different, but coexisted and were both worshiped. So, "gods" was used as a catch all, IIRC.
pgarc90
Nevermind, I'm way off. It's Vanr, not Valr. Although this is interesting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_(word)#Tribal_names
simreal
The general rule is this: if the letter after 'g' is 'e', 'i' or 'y', the pronunciation is a 'soft g' as in 'fringe'. general, giant, etc
weaselodooms
it's an acronym not a noun...it stands for Graphics Interchange Format
simreal
Doesn't matter
weaselodooms
yes it does because it was originally G.I.F.
simreal
No. If its an acronym you say G I F. You don't say gif or jif. When you pronounce it like a word you use english language rules. like George
justanotheravocado
But, but, it’s a graphics file...
MilesPrower
And? SCUBA.
ReverseTrapTsukasa
You probably call it aluminium too
Gopher1964
Why yes I do. While we're at it, how do you pronounce bitumen? Bitch you men Or Bye chew men?
ReverseTrapTsukasa
There's a reason aluminium is wrong. https://imgur.com/sx28pIr and if you need more https://books.google.com/books?id=YjMwAAAAYAAJ page 201
ReverseTrapTsukasa
Essentially the guy who discovered it named as was his right, it but someone else popularized the wrong name for the way it sounded.
ReverseTrapTsukasa
Hasn't come up in my daily life so I've not had to pronounce it. according to Google it's either bəˈt(y)o͞omən or bīˈt(y)o͞omən. So it would
ReverseTrapTsukasa
be Bet-you-men or Bite-you-men for an easier way to read it.
Gopher1964
TIL something. Always wondered what the story was with that. In Australia, we use aluminium exclusively.
slydude71
the word giant is pronounced with a J
IMadeThisSoICanSaveFavorites
give/gift are way more similar and are a hard g
HelloToe
Giraffe.
alsoAzrael
The point is there's no hard rule and it's ridiculous to claim one of the two is wrong.
lacuaba
What about gin? Literally one letter away yet it’s a soft g (I don’t care how people pronounce it as English is v inconsistent)
St0pthatsh1t
What about Guinnes ?
WherePoetryComesToDie
"Giant" was lifted from the French géant, while "graphics" is a direct lift of graphicus/graphikós.
mistlefoot
So you pronounce it JFEG? since it's a direct lift of Joint Photographic Experts Group?
WherePoetryComesToDie
If it was spelled JΦEG, then yes. But since the acronym only uses the 1st letter and not the root Greek phi character, I think /p/ is right.
abcedertree
Look up SCUBA and then explain why we pronounce it SCOO-BAH.
WherePoetryComesToDie
Not an etymologist or linguist, but English has a habit of favoring the long U if it's before a single consonant and a vowel... (1/x)
WherePoetryComesToDie
And the short U if it's before an ending consonant or precedes a combination of consonants. All that said, I suspect we agree... (2/x)
WherePoetryComesToDie
Just pointing out that justifying either position based on the variability of pronunciation is a poor argument, but if you're going to (3/x)
phukerstone
well it isn't jraphics interchange format so....
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Gmayor61
Technically it should be L.A.S.E.R since it stands for light Amplification (by) Stimulated Emission (of) Radiation
Gmayor61
And before you ask, I don't know if I'm fun at parties. I'm too busy saving the internet from mispronunciations
QuaqueNocte
If that's the case then Ikea should be pronounced "EE Key-Uo"
CoffinFullOfPudding
In Sweden they say Ee-kay-uh
QuaqueNocte
Well they are Swedish.
FrankPerkele
Imagine if they were danish, then it would be even more confusing
QuaqueNocte
..I'm intrigued to hear how a Danish person would pronounce it without influence.
echonite
Because there are no other words where G is pronounced like a J... none at all. Totally not like the word... Judge, fridge, George...
MoistenedPenguin
Scuba: self-contained underwater breathing apparatus. You pronounce that sk-uh-bah?
HunterEx
Wait how else does one pronounce it?
FacemanPeck
Scooba
GregoriusDaneli
In addition, "laser"—light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation... should we start saying 'lah-SEER' instead of 'LAY-zer'?
LeninOfficial
In Sweden we actually say lah-SEER, so I guess it's all valid as long as we can understand each other.
justanotheravocado
Was waiting for the European lol
ducklingsuck
SaintsWorth
Gym Gigantic generation gigantic geography.... There are more
Gopher1964
Try 3 letter words only Gad Gag Gah Gal Gap Gar Gas Gay Get Gig Git Gob God Goo Got Gum Gun Gut Guy Gym - Greek Gel - French Gin - Juniper
SkeletonsNeedLoveToo
I specifically say jift in order to make people angry.
sammyismycat
Jift
SaintsWorth
Giraffe
14November
In swedish, "gift" is a word, pronounced "jift". Means poison. Also married.
LickLickLickMyBalls2
I see no difference
LessanderoCortez
In german its pronounced "gift". But it still means poison.
nashpotato
In english its pronounced gift but its spelt poison...oh wait
GoodChange
If you want to tell an English speaker how to pronounce the Swedish gift the right way is "yift" with a y not a j
14November
So it's .yif now? Oh my..
BlackElkSpeaks
Two can play this game. Is it pronounced 'Jinger' or 'Ginger'? 'Gym' or 'Jym'? 'Jigolo' or 'Gigolo'? 'Genes' or 'Jenes'? 'Jermany' (1)
IMadeThisSoICanSaveFavorites
But those don't resemble it as much as give and gift. The creator is free to decide how it's called, but how it's spelled is up to language.
BlackElkSpeaks
Or 'Germany'? 'Jerms' or 'Germs'? 'Giraffe' or 'Jiraffe'? 'Jentlemen' or 'Gentlemen'? (2)
SaiikoTA
Tell that to my jrandpa, he enjoys jore and will shoot you with his juns you jodless piece of joon
BlackElkSpeaks
Puhsketti
Hotel? Trivajo.
sciencebasedlifeform
ItsNotASchoonerItsASailboat
Uh, I think the game is more "is it pronounced giraffe or giraffe? Is it pronounced data or data?"
BlackElkSpeaks
Uh,
ImMrLiteral
Yes.
GekkoKid
If we go by old english, it's pronounced...(shudders)...yiff
tardisRetardis
Yes. Because yiff were used in late 1700-is.
cbotce
Late 1700-is wasn't old English, though. However, I guess he meant how it would be using the rules of pronunciation from OE
tardisRetardis
You must be fun at parties :P
Sabruka
what have you done
attofreak
yiff it's true, we have to accept it >:)
Pootisborn
TolstoyTheFox
FreyjaAE
ScionOfEights
Baeloro
Sounds like a good time.
Bimmler
But the Y is just a misreading of the old English thorn which is pronounced ... Oh wait, you mean furry porn. Ok I'll shut up.
DagothUr2ElectricDwemerCube
AleksandrBlazkowicz
GrimxMaka
Oh my yod..
IMightBeIntoSomeWeirdStuff
LogicalUpset
If you pronounce it according to spanish rules it’s hif <.<
PastelSugarCookies
OwO
ElbowDeepInAHorse
AwildBidoof
RUN AWAY!!! https://media.giphy.com/media/B6G2MYBmtnGYU/giphy.gif
SocoFox
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ab/2a/65/ab2a65def9828ff5904e1eb9fb20494b.gif
Snoopi252
Holy fuck that Quality! Its Gorgeus!
KawaNyx
In hell!
dgibz42069
Furfag!
ImgurAddict1
Elliot, you fucking furfag!
thechelonianshelmet
In that case you could have a yiff squeezing jiff in a giff & seriously fuck up someone's day
Rainbowtrout117
KayRaven
Do. Not. Yiff. The. Fox.
Irreal
What about the bunny?
KayRaven
DO NOT YIFF ANY OF THEM OR YOU'RE FIRED
MashedTaterForts
Ok, YekkoKid, I'll keep that in mind
Sirsir94
djsdkdjsk
Craazyy1
https://memestatic.fjcdn.com/pictures/Wash+your+fursuit+saw+this+on+a+gypsydude+dump+and_8bf9a4_6278281.jpg
JonestownClassPresident
SexualConsent
Zelkon527
SexualConsent
Zelkon527
SexualConsent
mascaralvb
Just proof that language changes meaning and pronunciation over time. And that's ok, grandma, I can say awesome without over using it!
theidiocywizard
THEFURRYJESUS
publicbionic
Dude that's how you get murdered.
Sernikb
CatzEyes93
NOW YOU'VE DONe IT
Jocktopus
But why the fuck would we go by old English?
Maldraek
the furries: https://imgur.com/NOECI0s
IPoisonedDorcasMutton
Sigh... @ElbowDeepInAHorse any input?
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IPoisonedDorcasMutton
My bad. Must have missed that.
Shrais
he replied after your comment, amusingly his reply and your comment were right next to each other
Maldraek
That's not furry sex, it's just bestiality.
furrydumpsterfire
Achromos
.
trhopkins
DO NOT Google that!
SexualConsent
DEFINITELY Google that
trhopkins
Perv! XD
SexualConsent
IPoisonedDorcasMutton
Username... hopefully checks out?
SexualConsent
ohnoofcourseyourright
I imagine borat saying this lol
dorpjorp
Okay, thanks, Yod. I'll keep that in mind.
gleely
If I wanted someone else's comeback I would have wiped it off your mom's chin.
GiantDad420
Well time to never use reactions ever again.
Hjaelmenator
ianrl337
You rang?
furrydumpsterfire
Djwaifu02
ElbowdeepinaBulbasaur
medsal15
AwildBidoof
SnappleCactus
Yiff me wolfdaddy
Nandabun
MORE WOLFJOB!
SnappleCactus
BARRY
TheRealTR8R
Incoming, haha
albinoALPACA
Gamergrl09
Jadecomet
This is somehow even funnier.
Soupertrooper
The animation in that move is so fucking good.
Sirsir94
BishlamekGurpgork
I'm gonna guess he just opened a door leading to a room covered with framed dick pics.
SexualConsent
Close, he opened the door to a nude resort
BishlamekGurpgork
Oh, I've seen the movie, but a hall of framed dick pics was funnier to me. :)
NotABench
ThomasTheSexyVampire
YES. VERY!
SexualConsent
LocalSemiFriendlyRabbitGal
That is a lot of stuff to take in all at once.
albinoALPACA
nexusband
There is not enough...! Man, there is that one comic between those two, that's having a cliff hangar for 8 months now...
SocoFox
https://pandagif.com/gifs/577P61GZhJ.gif
SexualConsent
nexusband
That could actually be my gf...
Lambdafish1
Username relevant
SocoFox
albinoALPACA
That subtle tail wagging is a killer
SexualConsent
HerrFraeulein
I'm not well versed in furry vernacular, what does yiff stand for or mean?
Craazyy1
porn / furry sex
Craazyy1
Specifically, yiff is furry porn, but to yiff is to have sex
GmanLV300
It comes from the sound foxes make when they "do the deed".
SexualConsent
Sex
HerrFraeulein
Between your avatar & your name, you seem to be the expert: Why do furries not just call it "sex"? I was expecting a clever acronym :-)
SexualConsent
To my knowledge, Paradox here is accurate
MissPhoenix56
Apparently something about the sound foxes make when they do it
albinoALPACA
Yup
HerrFraeulein
Ok, thank you. My curiosity is now satisfied.
FAECI
MoistenedPenguin
Creator of the file format says jif, but in the end, it's an acronym and not a word, so there is no right way.
Daemencer
Look up the definition of an acronym then. Maybe that'll help you understand how wrong your comment is.
DukeDarkwood
An acronym is being said AS a word. (If you have to spell it out, it is only an initialism.)
Delathi
Pedantic: There are multiple right ways.
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
ThatJerkYouKnow
Right? The creator of it can say it’s pronounced “bof” But I’m not doing that stupid shit
Saltyisthesea
I used to say gif until I read Steve Wilhite pronounces it with a "j".
mineovermatter
WRONG.jif
Saltyisthesea
Ha, i juess so
jimmythehat1
There is a .jif file extension. JPEG Image File.
MoistenedPenguin
It's just jpeg
burgonies
Pronounced jay-feg
MoistenedPenguin
Clearly
MilesPrower
False. Acronyms have proper pronunciation. PIN, SCUBA, LASER, for example.
MoistenedPenguin
Dictionary agrees on all of those, not for gif. It says both are correct, and they are the authority on that.
kentleigh
I'm gonna start saying "gee-eye-eff", to piss off both parties.
margaretolson
I honestly don't get why some people get so argumentative over it.
Gmayor61
There's also a graphics format that is called JIF, wtf do we do?
NateintheNorth
Say it gee eye eff.
UWantSumFuk
But there is a wrong way
AlbinoPanther
I pronounce it as giff because it stands for "graphics interchange format" and "giff" uses the correct pronunciation for the first letters.
MoistenedPenguin
What about scuba, laser, or radar?
burgonies
JPEG
MoistenedPenguin
Yeah, jfeg
capughe
Before I heard others saying it, I just spelled out the letters. Gee Eye Eff.
Exquisitine
There's no absolute "right way" for words either; it's all determined by what is commonly accepted.
MoistenedPenguin
The right way is the way that it is commonly accepted.
GrammarBolshevik
Different dialects of any language have different pronunciations and different vocabularies, so not "correct" just "accepted"
AleksanderLehti
http://howtoreallypronouncegif.com
burgonies
A-A-ron can suck a dick about pronunciations.
Stux15
Look man..... How do you say "graphical"? End of discussion
MoistenedPenguin
Look man, how do you say underwater? End of discussion. (Scuba)
cancerriddenlung
Do you think people from the UK argue this much about the pronunciation?
Xenarion
I use a hard "g" because .jif is a thing.
QueenOfProcrastination13
I honestly said gif until I heard others say gif, and also "it's a GIFt". Plus it stands for graphic, not generated, so imo it goes guh. 1/2
QueenOfProcrastination13
...first of all I'm facepalming that I spelled it the same way both times... (I honestly said *jif until i heard others say gif). Anyway 2/3
QueenOfProcrastination13
So then to hear that the creator calls it jif, I now go back and forth and don't care, and when others argue about it I just wanna move on.
myownhotafkoolimgername
I like this answer!
QUIBICUS
NO ITS GIF JIF IS FUCKING PEANUT BUTTER!!!!!
Garvinsgarden
Giganitic giraffe
Joblessgymshorts
Yeah that's why he named it that because moms like you choose jif was a popular jingle at the time. He thought it was punny
Grandmastersexsay2
Then he should have spelled it that way.
MoistenedPenguin
It's an acronym? And G can be pronounced as a J just like it is in many other words? Giraffe, gym, giant, etc?
Grandmastersexsay2
Or you can pronounce the G like graphics.
MoistenedPenguin
Scuba, laser, radar, tell me you pronounce those like the words the represent. Protip: you don't.
bobalooba28
So.... I’m admitting my ignorance and I gotta ask what the acronym stands for, please tell
MoistenedPenguin
Graphics interchange format, though that is irrelevant to pronunciation
BishlamekGurpgork
Found the peanut butter fanboy.
MoistenedPenguin
Found sk-uh-bah guy
bobalooba28
I had no idea, thanks!
ThatsMySecretCapImAlwaysHorny
I think Smuckers should sue him for trademark infringement.
Crossark
Correction; acronyms are initialisms that can be pronounced as words, so there is technically a grammatically correct pronunciation. (1/2)
Crossark
That said, it's pretty obscure grammar, so I just stick by the policy that I don't correct someone unless they start the argument. (2/2)
MoistenedPenguin
Dictionary says both are grammatically correct, so, neither is THE correct way. Just A correct way.
Crossark
Nah, the dictionary says both are accepted pronunciations, which is totally cool. They don't comment on English pronunciations rules.
MoistenedPenguin
If they are both valid pronunciations, then neither breaks a grammatical rule, no?
Crossark
People pronounce criminy as "CRIME-inee" and "CRIM-inee". The first is technically correct, but it's a regional thing. Dictionaries (1/2)
Crossark
P.S.: When you have g-i- followed by a single consonant, it's a j sound. It's a rule we integrated from French. Giraffe, gigantic, (1/2)
Crossark
ginormous, gingivitis (two-for-one there); an exception is gibberish, which is weird because it's based on "gib" as in mouth. (2/2)
Crossark
Oh, also, if there's two consonants after it, it's almost always a hard g, and if there's a vowel after it, it's usually soft.
ruferto
and he's wrong and that's sad. he created the damn thing
MoistenedPenguin
[Citation needed]
ruferto
literally every other word starting with "gif" in the english language is pronounced that way, not as if it starts with a j
MoistenedPenguin
So? Lots of words with just Gi are pronounced like a J, what does the F do?
ruferto
settles the pronounciation
Frizoggy
I'll start pronouncing scuba: scub-ay.
RydWolf
"Scubb-why. Why? Because I can!"
bryanthehumanbeing
Everyone knows the U stands for "underwater", so it's sc-uuh-ba
danishjuggler21
Why not?
Somanyquestions
And Radar as Rawdar
WherePoetryComesToDie
That's actually how Spanish speakers say it, as they have fairly consistent pronunciation rules.
MoistenedPenguin
I could also pull out the dictionary argument, where gif and jif are correct but only the scooba pronunciation is correct lol.
LeonQuin87
So maybe we should says GEE AI EF
MoistenedPenguin
Too much effort :p
Daemencer
These would be Initials. Not an acronym.
Sammyv17
My name Gee ai ef!
aCartographer
JEE AI EF
LeonQuin87
GEE AI EF!
GrumpleStache
How does one pronounce "GUI" or better yet. "Graphic"
MoistenedPenguin
I have never heard anything other than reading out the letters in GUI, and what an acronym stands for doesn't dictate pronounciation.
DarkTwiz
I fully pronounce G-U-I, but in University the profs and younger generation pronounce it Gooey. I don't know...
MoistenedPenguin
What counts as younger generation? I'm only 19?
DarkTwiz
That's about right, I'm generalizing of course.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
I'm in my 40s, work in software dev, and have never heard anyone spell it out. It's always "gooey". Maybe it's regional, I don't think /1
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
it's generational though. /2
PoliteButFactualCanadian
Actually people who invent words determine how they're pronounced. Knight, pneumonia, are examples.
MoistenedPenguin
I too say jif. But tell that to the dictionary, you know?
TielKiri
Neither of these were invented by a specific person, they were both developed naturally just like most of language, both the k in knight-
TielKiri
and the p in pneumonia were both originally pronounced, and in the inventor of something had ultimate authority on such-
TielKiri
matters, then Uranus's name would be George, as its discoverer insisted it be named. And in any case that's not how language works.
Gopher1964
nohabloespanol
"Jopher1964"
Gopher1964
Lol
PoliteButFactualCanadian
Gin is my favourite one. It's literally one letter off and has the J sound.
Gopher1964
Gin is a poor example http://howtoreallypronouncegif.com
PoliteButFactualCanadian
The origin of the word doesn't in fact matter. The only thing that matters is that there are these exceptions. That alone makes it valid.
PoliteButFactualCanadian
So, not only does it meet already established english rules, which that there are exceptions, it's also what the inventor intended.
Andalite
He's not a fucking linguist
Allrighty
I'd venture that neither are you.
snoogans671
Neither are parents that say YzdfYtx is pronounced like Sandra, but the creators get input into what its called and how its pronounced
BishlamekGurpgork
Maybe they get input, but no more than every other Yahoo on the internet. If YzdfYtx tells me it's Yizz-dif-yittix, that's what I go with,
BishlamekGurpgork
And fuck that lame ass 'Sandra' bullshit.
MoistenedPenguin
So? He invented the acronym. That's like saying a company can't choose how it's never is pronounced.
MoistenedPenguin
How it's name* is pronounced. I'm no pro at typing.
Clitastrophe
I'm gonna start a company, call it HENTAI, but it's pronounced "Art".
cmdrcat
Do it.
MoistenedPenguin
Sure, why not?
MoistenedPenguin
Yes, I get the joke. Please save me the pain.
eldieron24
The creator said it, so that's how it is. Acronyms still have pronunciation
MoistenedPenguin
I'm a jif guy because nobody has ever made a strong aregument for gif, but that's just me. Dictionary says both :/
eldieron24
Their argument is it comes from graphics interface format (I think), and graphics has a hard g. The counterargument to that is scuba
MoistenedPenguin
And laser, and radar, yeah I know. Like I said, no strong arguments.
MadeForMature
There are plenty of strong arguments backed by Linguistics. The creator chose that pronunciation, but had to clarify because people naturall
MadeForMature
http://howtoreallypronouncegif.com/
MadeForMature
when words are created from acronyms they follow the same rules of pronunciation as any other word so it would not be a soft G
notanimposter
When I was a wee lass and I saw my first cat.gif, I read it as "cat dot jif", and it stuck. Pronounce it however seems right to you!
SnarkyOstrich
Aye, pronouncing it the RIGHT way I see
OmnipresentRage
It's a graphic, not a peanut butter.
MoistenedPenguin
Scuba, It's underwater, not oonderwater.
OmnipresentRage
Is this agreeing with my comment or not? Because mine was a joke that it isn't "JIF" because it's not a peanut butter.
itskindofapunnystory
He’s making the point that that’s a useless argument since it’s silly to say since a thing is pronounced one way nothing else can anymore
DarthDeadpool
Well it's not jraphics interchange format now is it?
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IMadeThisSoICanSaveFavorites
Is gift pronounced jift?
itskindofapunnystory
I love that snoop dogg jam, “Gin (hard G) and juice”
IMadeThisSoICanSaveFavorites
Gin is more similar to gif than gift is? TIL
notanimposter
Exactly!
NuclearBuddha
Why are they booing you?! You're right!
Mishn0
Like "giraffics"?
Daemencer
Doesn't matter, it's an acronym. Pronounced as a separate word with the language pronunciation rules applied to it. Giraffe, not Guiraffe
BatmanRidingANarwhal
Gerard, gym, gigantic, generation, generosity, etc. And those are just words that START with the soft G. So your argument is invalid
Dravit
'Generosity interchange format' would be 'jif'. 'Graphics interchange format' is a hard 'g', therefore 'gif'.
Dustorn
So, bringing up a previously mentioned word, SCUBA should be pronounced skuh-buh, rather than skoo-buh? Because no one does that.
IMadeThisSoICanSaveFavorites
Gift, give, etc. It's gif with a hard g.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Why is this downvoted? The closest english word we have is gift. It's not shocking to assume it's pronounced the same way as gift.
BishlamekGurpgork
Graphic is not one of those words. The argument, while not absolute, does have weight.
GeorgeHWBushsGhost
We pronounce Giraffe as Jiraffe and Gift as Gift. The G has no constant sound.
twozerooz
It does follow rules though. English is a hybrid of multiple languages. All words with French roots follow French rules and have soft G's
HaniiPuppy
Well, it does. The problem is that it has 2. (Or more if you include digraphs and diphthongs)
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
When I first saw "gif", I immediately thought of "gift" and pronounced it accordingly. Saying "jif" never even occurred to me. Especially /1
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
since there's already a known spelling for "jif", the peanut butter. /2
WhyAreThoseCaptchaThingsSoFuckingHardToRead
How do you pronounce "gin"?
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
How do you pronounce gift though? The argument doesn't really work because english has multiple answers.
Dravit
'Graphics' is a hard 'g', ergo its acronym does too.
burgonies
What about the other common image format, JPEG?
mritty
SCUBA. Ergo, your argument is completely incorrect.
LittleLink
Oh I'm sorry let go to Africa and see a Guh-rrafe
BishlamekGurpgork
The point isn't that those words do not exist, but that graphic is not one of them.
Dustorn
But, as has been addressed many times, acronyms don't always abide by the pronunciation of the words that they contain.
BishlamekGurpgork
I wouldn't suggest it as a universal rule. It just seems like a sensible dividing line with the typical rules of pronunciation are so
ModernFalconer
That'd be a neat GIFT
DragonsLoveTacosButHateSpicySalsa
We also don’t pronounce SCUBA as skuh-buh. Acronym pronunciation doesn’t follow the underlying words they abbreviate.
BlackElkSpeaks
InspectorGoole
I pronounce SCUBA as 'Skuh-buh'. How the hell do you pronounce it?
80percentlegs
Skoo-buh
antiqueroadshow
I’m just here to point out that Zoology is pronounced Zo-ology not Zoo-ology
MoistenedPenguin
Thanks, I was going to direct him to this exact point :p
BlackElkSpeaks
To piggyback onto that point there is also 'AWOL' or 'SWAT' for example.
bigvox
Or PETA ( should be pet-aa, not Pee- tah)
hawaiicanal89
Laser and radar, too
FacemanPeck
NASA
BishlamekGurpgork
But there are general rules of pronunciation that provide a clear preference in those cases. Gif is ambiguous. Taking the sound from its
BishlamekGurpgork
Root doesn't seem unreasonable in this case.
Sanosky
"we also don't pronounce SCUBA skuh-buh" uh maybe you don't but I definitely do...what does this scuba stand for btw
jiynxed
If you're trying to pronounce it like the letters in each word are you're doing it wrong. Gotta put a Boston stank on it -scuhbah
MoistenedPenguin
self-contained underwater breathing apparatus
IMadeThisSoICanSaveFavorites
Closest wor to gif is gift, end of discussion.
Sammyv17
But gif pronounced like gift doesn't sound like a word, because it isn't. So it doesn't matter if you use a j sound.
IMadeThisSoICanSaveFavorites
If you pronounce jiff because the creator wanted to make a pun instead of looking at already existing words, you don't understand language
Joblessgymshorts
Imgurians like puns butt hate gif being pronounced jif. The whole reason it was pronounced jif was to be a pun of "Moms like you choose Jif"
RetardVillain
What with the butt hate
harrynippleclamps
I kinda like "butt hate" more.
pothocket
How is that a pun though?
TheLetterKay
That's not a pun...and not even funny.
Joblessgymshorts
Well I got the pun wrong see the other comment below. Also since when are puns funny?
TheLetterKay
That's kinda the point. They are a humorous play on words.
MrAgnosticman
I love puns butt
SirTiberius
It was from Jif peanut butter commercials. "Choosy moms choose Jif!" so "Choosy developers choose Gif!"
Joblessgymshorts
Thank you I messed that one up