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Before downvoting, educate yourself on the conservative position.
https://www.facebook.com/203805062990264/videos/1286642564706503/
Feb 13, 2017 7:11 PM
Arrodest
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Before downvoting, educate yourself on the conservative position.
https://www.facebook.com/203805062990264/videos/1286642564706503/
DavidMcclannahan
As a Boy scout there are already female members in BSA called venturing scouts. Having them be in the program at a younger age sounds fine.
CatinaBag
So you want me to go to FB for a video by an extremely biased source to "educate" myself?
itinerantmarshmallow
He's very good at working his arguments but I disagree with his views on a number of issues. Also some of his views don't seem compatible.
SepiaSkies
How embarrassing for you to consider this logic. Do we need to explain to you that the KKK aren't actually knights? Names are just names.
Canofminus
"educate yourself on the conservative position" Let me save you sometime: "Science, bad!"
DeusExSpockina
The Girl Scouts let boys in. Boys who are biologically boys. And identify as boys. Because why the fuck not?
ryechard
As a former scout, I'll let the BSA decide the issue. No this guy. Fuck, does he think ya gotta be a tiger to be a Tiger Scout?
realbrickwall
A common misinterpretation. The name is actually "Boy, Scouts!", indicating one's excitement that they are scouts.
iamjuliespiano
This is good stuff.
SAWhowhatnow
The conservative position can lick my balls.
CPatricoo
Actually I think they just allowed transgender members? Although practically speaking it is very few.
UncomfortableTruths
I believe trans folk are around .3% of the population. All of the outrage over them is completely based on fabricated bullshit.
Fatpicasso
Yeah it was funny the first 10 reposts. I swear imgur is the Tumblr for men
grumpatsurrisrex
*insecure manchildren
Frogapus
If it's not hurting anyone, why be so upset if a person wants to be called "he" instead of "she?" Let people be themselves.
Kingzombee
Venture crew is co ed and the trips are way more intense (Philmont) but there aren't as many active chapters as regular scouts
Edutittam
It's not a conservative position. It's a nasty position. It doesn't say "biological boy scouts".
dangledeez
What other type of boy is there?
JustPuffins
You're kidding, right? Ben Shapiro? The guy who couldn't even cut it at the white supremacist rag Breitbart? Did he pay you to do this?
KunFayyaKun
Ben Shapiro is an idiot. He's like the smug conservative answer to smug liberals.
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Frogapus
He speeds through a lot of points without pausing for responses. I think it's more that he's well-spoken, not necessarily correct.
acliberti
I knew a guy, super butch marine type, that was an honorary girl scout as a kid. The gender thing is pointless.Teach kids all the cool stuff
AnExcellentRectangle
Y Chromosome Scouts.
ilsalta
So girls with androgen insensitivity syndrome are allowed?
gonesurfyn
Shots fired!
CharterOak
Except it's "Boy scouts", not "biological boy scouts". Meaning any kid who identifies as a boy ought to be able to join.
Munchman347
Do you realize 'boy' is a biological designation, or does that clash with your agenda?...
CharterOak
That's funny, I thought "male" was the biological designation.
Munchman347
'A', not 'The'. XX and XY are also biological designations...
CharterOak
My point is, "boy" does not necessarily mean "biologically male". It's a gender designation as well.
LieutenantKifKroker
There is a thing called Venture Scouts, which is a branch of the Boy Scouts of America. Boys and girls, camping, hiking, etc. If your town >
CPatricoo
15 to 21. Older youth as well
SgtChowdown
YUP! I was in Venture and I am a chick. It was hella tight.
Medicdroid20
Thank the Lord someone knows about venture. But there are also sea scouts. Pretty cool stuff if you go looking.
providedlava
And explorers, too.
Medicdroid20
I don't know about that specific group.
LieutenantKifKroker
doesn't have a chapter, contact the BSA, generate interest, and start one. Don't complain. Do something about it.
providedlava
Pretty easy to start a crew. Local BS troop will point you in the right direction.
BluBoxx
@OP transgender boys are allowed in the Boy Scouts.....
Malinn
I was educated on the conservative position pretty well when they used who am I as a political whipping boy. Get Bent.
Frogapus
Are you LGBT, black, Muslim, or female? Conservatives shit on so many people, it's a wonder they still have enough to fill a party.
DrMooses
"Educate yourself on the Conservative position" - get fucked.
DarkAbria
I don't think its absurd to hear both sides of the argument. I listened to the video and was really surprised by the strength of his 1
DrMooses
No, it's more the "Educate yourself" bit. If you don't care enough to explain your side to me I'm not sure why you expect me to care either.
DarkAbria
arguments (I say, as someone whose almost entire social group in high school was LGBT). 2
FruitBatmanz
Well the "conservative positon" is just that.
GoodOlZR
They seem to think an unfamiliarity with their position is the reason people think they're full of shit.
Maradon3305
Actually our boy scout troop has been allowing girls to join since the early 90's
CPatricoo
As a former professional, I promise you they havent unless you had an explorer or venture crew.
ThatTransformersDude
I belonged to two troops who allowed girls and boys. Never felt like it was a big deal, we all had fun.
ItsCrazyTim
Ya but i think they were Explorers, which is a coed chapter
PaliQ
Wish I'd had one like that. The boys went camping and lit fires and the girls did arts and crafts inside. I CAN DO ARTS AND CRAFTS AT HOME.
hughesybooze
Meh, it was alright but eventually you wise up to the fact that you're being given homework for something you can just stop doing lol.
DavidMcclannahan
Venturing or ?
vulgarbaby
I did both, venturing crew was way more fun anyway.
Maradon3305
Beavers and Cubs were separated. Scouts and Venturers were coed.
DavidMcclannahan
Are beavers cub scouts for girls?
Maradon3305
Boy scouts goes; Beavers, Cubs, Scouts, Venturers, Rovers. Girl Guides goes; Sparks, Brownies, Guides, Pathfinders, Rangers.
rockfireman
Well I mean there's boy scouts and girl scouts, why co-mingle? Not that I'm against it, I just don't understand.
KittensLegitimatelyFrightenMe
The names make them seem like similar organizations, but they're very different. Many girls feel like you don't learn anything useful in GS.
aratharel
As someone who was in GS, you dont. You learn ""useful"" things like how to bake, do makeup, sew, and sell cookies. We had camping (1/2)
aratharel
I would have much preferred boy scouts growing up. What they did was what i wanted to learn, and what i thought i was signing up for.
aratharel
Trips but the moms did everything for us. Didnt learn how to pitch a tent or make a fire. But everything to make us good little housewives.
ThatTransformersDude
See I would like for everyone to have the same basic skills. From cooking, sewing, camping, and starting a fire. It's essential for everyone
AmazonEmma
Can we just stop being assholes to each others
anarkos
The assholes here are the deluded pricks that want to force their phony beliefs onto others. I agree, it'd be nice if they stopped.
Frogapus
If you went by Bob, but the entire world called you "Alice," wouldn't you want them to start calling you by the name you preferred? 2/2
anarkos
A name and a gender isn't the same thing. Get outta here with your false equivalencies. Why can't a lady be named Bob?
Frogapus
No, I'm saying that this means everything to the trans person and requires almost no effort on the part of everyone else. Is it so hard?
anarkos
I'm not going to play pretend to make a mentally ill person feel like they're not mentally ill. You don't give vodka to an alcoholic.
Frogapus
Hi there! I'm a lady who used to be a guy. I gotta say that I'm not forcing anything on anyone--I just want to be addressed as who I am. 1/2
AmazonEmma
I'm all with you.
blueiverson
So a guy who thinks he's a lady.....
Frogapus
So you clearly understand the situation, but would rather insult me despite the fact that the way I live has no affect on your life? Kudos.
blueiverson
Ur obviously butthurt
AmazonEmma
"It's not us it's them" , good way to sound like an asshole, let people enjoy their lifes.
anarkos
Outstanding work being a hypocrite there, chief.
providedlava
Theyve been letting girls in boyscouts for a while so this argument doesnt really make sense.... Source: I was a girl boyscout.
CPatricoo
You mean a Venture scout?
SgtChowdown
Which is part of the BSA, yes, thus making us Boy Scouts. Calm yer tits.
CPatricoo
I was promoting it by saying the name dingus!
providedlava
I was, yes. But they have a few other co ed programs as well.
providedlava
That being said, girl scouts will not even let male siblings or fathers join in activities and events. Very rude.
HatsAreEssential
That's troop specific, not an organization rule. The girlscout camp near me has male registered girlscouts working there - cooks, handyman.
providedlava
It was council wide in my area which is why I was under the impression it was everywhere
CPatricoo
These organizations have different rules for employment positions
deOliveira
real logic is that this is an organization meant to empower young people to live their best lives, so who gives a fuck about their genitals
boobcat
the teenage scouts would
DavidMcclannahan
People who don't give a shit about actual scouting values
MarioBoon
Boy scouts were child soldiers
Laimbrane
*Raises Hand* I give a fuck about my genitals. In fact, my only regret is that I have but one fuck to give.
deOliveira
I'll give you my fuck, too ;)
Nccoffee
Exactly what I'm saying. As we all know if a transgender kid touches your kid he'll be blowing guys in truck stop bathrooms in 5 years
ToxicPineapple
I didn't even need the transgender touching.
Frogapus
Oh shit. Have I been infecting people all my life? Holy crap, I need to make some calls.
DavidMcclannahan
Can't tell if this is sarcasm
GoodOlZR
I hope so
WelcomeBackDodos
Girl Scouts learn nothing of worth imho...they should just make "Scouts"
FarmerFrance
Squirts
Medicdroid20
Well there are sea scouts and venture scouts both of which are for anyone. Sea is 11 and up while venture is 14-21 iirc.
Moonset
That's what we did in the UK. Its really no big deal to mix guys and girls up, as long as they use different tents.
tipitiwitchet
In upper levels there's a focus on activism, environmental stuff, and business skills but not much for younger girls anymore
danishjuggler21
Hey Ron Swanson, what's up?
mustnttelllies
I learned how to darn a sock and pour glitter on things but I throw socks away at first hint of trouble. Glitter thing's useful, though...
bitclicker
As long as there are still cookies.
thebridgeisover
I'd slightly and politely disagree. I learned a lot of social and leadership skills I still carry today. But that was just my experience :)
CityYeti
They brainwash you in those girl scouts just to sell cookies to raise money so that they can put more fluoride in the water. Do you know
CityYeti
What that stuff does to your brain?!
stinkingyeti
In australia we had just Scouts, boys and girls etc, nobody cared, unfortunately it was just lame so i stopped going.
hblb229
Depends on the troop. Some focus on outdoorsy stuff, others crafts/homemaking, others sciencey stuff. (Cont)
hblb229
http://www.girlscouts.org/en/our-program/badges.html
TheSauceGuy
In Sweden we just call it The Scouts and always have
Throwaway394
Wow. You guys got something right. Congrats
ImLikelyBoredAtWork31415
You mean like how it is in Canada??
Throwaway394
And Finland
bennettleben
And the uk
Killstealer
in scouts the it did not matter your gender, 20 pushups because everyone was being a rowdy shit.
hsdqwerty
My brothers went dogsledding. I learned how to put on makeup. I would have stayed if it had just been 'scouts'
woopwooppulloverdatasstoofat
yeah we made flower pots... I went into it thinking we'd learn about survival and go on cool adventures but it was so lame.
WelcomeBackDodos
We made daisy chains. Literally. Utter horseshit.
Geo80
Why are they not learning how to observe enemy troupe movements which is the actual job of a scout.
hsdqwerty
Still better than makeup, imo
millanbel
Because they are trying to disguise a paramilitary organisation.
seandude689
I think Hitler did that, didn't turn out well.
ChemicalPorpoise
I learned salesmanship. I pushed those cookies big time. Otherwise, I didn't learn much else I can remember
SidneyHarbor
In fairness, you probably developed your social skills, which are important in real life beyond school.
ChemicalPorpoise
I was the quiet one in the corner and was only friends with those girls because they were in my troop so... I guess I learned to fake it
TheSunless
Sounds like real life to me!