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It's a myth that ostriches bury their heads in the sand. Only humans do that.
Jan 2, 2020 11:21 AM
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It's a myth that ostriches bury their heads in the sand. Only humans do that.
brutallee
Man made climate change is also a myth but you dont believe that because rich people tell you so. But whatever
Poppthe1th
Just blame the emu’s
PartaVictoriisPax
Speaking as a regulator for California electricity... Australia isn't the only government that failed to prepare.
ThatLoserTheFourth
Prime minister Scott Morrison
lawideas
It wasn't climate change. It was poor forestry management and severely underfunded rural fire departments.
4YEO
We are making dinosaurs out of ourselves.
debilibeb
Fatten up now so your ancestors will have fuel.
HandoB4Javert
Why would humans need to bury ostrich heads?
Blackfinity
It's as much a fuel accumulation issue as anything. Few prescribed burns. A natural fire pops up and we put it out. Rinse and repeat...
Nyoibo83
As the group of fire chiefs that tried to meet with Scumo have said, they've been hard pressed to do any burning as the dry season has 1/
Nyoibo83
2/ become so much longer, not to mention there are places burning that are dry for the first time in history
Blackfinity
...Fuel accumulates. Add a dry year and a huge fire is inevitable. Fires are natural and restorative but we make them worse with poor...
Blackfinity
...land management and strategies that actually exacerbate natural fire events.
s123man
The solution is to increase atmospheric CO2 until there is not enough oxygen in the air to sustain a wildfire.
jakeinthehood
Easy just melt the ice caps until the sea level rises enough to sink Australia, no more fires
TheMayo16
Dude, i was watching cleetus yesterday, and it suprised the fuck out of me, how cloudy the sky is from all the smoke
MacClay
Burying an ostrich's head in the sand isn't very easy. They tend to not cooperate.
AssamLaksa
It's horrible D: I saw that video of the firefighters escaping theburning forest.
VAPOR85
Not to mention fatty mc fuck head sold water to cotton farms that could have helped and he apparently made backburning illegal
DespiseEveryone
Proves once again, you want to be conservative of your world, kill the conservatives first.
letsgototheoldfolkshome
rest of australia:
DippyDoopter
It would be really funny if someone animated fire on him
oddsterman2273
We TOTALLY didn’t know that climate change makes it HOT.
Hekatombe
Tourists:
Mikotus127001
Imacatflushingthetoilet
circutracer1511
100% not what happened.
VodkaReindeer
Can't have massive fires if you get rid of all the trees.
cbale2000
To be fair, Australia has been dry and fire prone for hundreds of years.
Rifneno
From what I've read, the Australian politicians seem to have a very Nero-minded approach.
thebigsexyfrost0
Nero fiddled as he watched time burn. Our PM fucked off to Hawaii.
thebigsexyfrost0
Rome*
mitharas
Many firefighters are registered jobless (which is why they have the time to fight this armageddon). 1/x
mitharas
Since they can't turn in their required job applications (cause of the firefighting and being heroes and stuff), their benefits get cut. 2/x
mitharas
one example: https://twitter.com/manwithoutatan/status/1212523812681666560
shadowmajestic
Except that it's caused by lack of fire prevention for the first time in more than 40.000 years.
jiankui
If that was the case, these fires would have happened 100 years ago when the fire prevention stopped.
shadowmajestic
The fire prevention stopped in the last decade. Because it was bad for the environment.... Yeah this is much better.
jiankui
The fire prevention reduced because the window of weather in which it's safe to do so is getting smaller. Because of climate change.
MexicanTrainer
Wow they had fire prevention 40 thousand years ago? holy shit
RandallKavanaugh
ikr?
Trelkeen
I think that's a period not a comma
MexicanTrainer
Some places use a period where a comma would go. idk when they started doing this or why its different.
Mairoa
Yeah, it's been inhabited for 60-100 thousand years. Then colonists came in and were like "nah, we can manage this shit better." Seriously.
Mairoa
The oral traditions there describe megafauna that went extinct tens of thousands of years ago. They didn't survive that long being stupid.
MexicanTrainer
I can see colonists coming in & saying that but like....how did they manage fire prevention? That's impressive.
LarvaLamp
Digeridoos resonate at a frequency that displaces oxygen, thereby snuffing out the fires.
levijom
Weren't they man-made?
loser9999
Yes but dry environment makes them more prone to happen and worse when they do
themosthellas
Doesn’t fire start fires though?
ScottaHemi
probably dry lightning.
themosthellas
Which is a form of fire/spark/ignition source
mnloggerman
We can go back and forth on climate change all we want but forest management plays a big part in fire prevention, regardless of reasons
avenienn
quick question: what to you understand by forrest management
mnloggerman
Letting forests grow without clearing underbrush to cut down on potential fuel in the future. Controlled burns for new growth
mnloggerman
Fires are natural, it is ok for forests to burn
avenienn
the area of the forrest in australia is bigger than texas the population is lower. Controlled burns could not be done last years
avenienn
because there is only a short window, and it got to small, it was to dagerous for even those types. Only 30% done in 2018.
prophet002
Climate change isn't real. Proof: https://imgur.com/DzlOc41
TongueTiedLabourerfromtheLandoftheLittlePeople
When a snowstorm is a degree warmer it doesn't seem that different. When a planet is a degree warmer you get more real life disaster movies.
MexicanTrainer
We had 1 snowfall in michigan this year. You're real fucking retarded.
prophet002
whoosh
MexicanTrainer
You say that now that you have to cover your self. Damage control.
prophet002
lol literally lol
MexicanTrainer
No no it's fine. Go ahead and pretend you're okay on the inside.
Pwnius
Serious question: How does 1/4 degree hotter air create dangerous fire conditions?
Throrf
It really doesn't. The argument makes about as much sense as "there is no warming because it's snowing outside".
WhatzitTooya
By changing the weather to more unfavorable conditions, like hotter summers with less rain. Hard to explain with just 140 chars...
avenienn
Because its the average Temeprature, not temperature everyday. So temperature extreems happen more often and for longer periods of time
lesliebugs
You're thinking of effects modeled to appear after a significant change in average global temps which we have not yet reached.
Pwnius
Wildfires are caused by man and/or lightning. What does air temperature have to do with either of those?
miprola
The higher the temperature, the more winds, the more clouds, the more the lightning. Easy game.
miprola
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderstorm
avenienn
forest material moisture, average rainfall, occurances of dry lightning. Also when its very dry fire may be starded by natural means.
Pepperfart
What's ironic is that, per inhabitant, Australia is among the top 10 countries that emit the most CO2
DarthSeduction
Per inhabitant? That's a strange way to measure. Individual action isn't the cause of climate change, unless by individual you mean the
DarthSeduction
Billionaires fighting against action to pretext profits, choosing to continue burning fossil fuels, flood the market with plastic, and waste
DarthSeduction
So much more in their pursuit of more and more wealth.
Nyoibo83
We've been trying to get the government to do something about it, but they have too much of a hard on for coal and shitting on renewables
thebigsexyfrost0
How is that ironic? Do you even know what irony is?
MexicanTrainer
It is echoic allusion irony. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony#Verbal_irony_and_echoic_allusion
awesock
No it's not... Read the article.
fitlex
It's like rain on your wedding day
bukkakeshots
It's a free ride when you've already paid
Kbantar
I hate it, but ironic like karma now means, interesting or expected consequences, not anything meaningful.
Rohrzange
Because they use massive Air Conditioning to create nice comfy cold room climate in a poorly insulated house right in a furnace
SlappedStupid
I don't have an air conditioner & couldn't afford to run one. I'm lucky enough to live in a brick home with tall ceilings & my landlord ->
SlappedStupid
put insulation in my ceiling last year, but I still come close to death if a heatwave lasts longer than 3 days. The fan becomes a fan ->
SlappedStupid
forced heater & the walls hold the heat & sometimes it's still close to 40 degrees inside, when the sun comes up again. By day 4, I ->
SlappedStupid
have a migraine & can't even get to the fridge for cold water. Even healthy people can't live like this for long.
morelikeconsham
Yep. The first world countries dominate that list, with US, UK, Australia, and Canada consistently being the major polluters.
morelikeconsham
I also always get downvoted for this fact, as everyone wants me to lie and say that china and India are worse.
JollyGreen1026
Per capita? You're right. Per country? It's definitely China and India. But Saudi Arabia is the absolute worst per capita.
morelikeconsham
Per country isnt a valuable metric. China and India have the most people in them. The idea that they should be condemned to live in mud huts
morelikeconsham
For the crime of being in a populous country is ridiculous.
Rohrzange
Saudi Arabia uses oil to make electricity to cool down indoor skiing facilities. And people from Germany fly there for skiing.
Rohrzange
Probably these people are the ones buying Tesla cars
CommanderXirlos
Well, duh, it's on fire. /s (For real, though, that's because so much of our power comes from coal. It's so fucking stupid.)
AnAussieTroop
The Australian government needs to invest further into wind and solar an extreme portion of Australia is desert and surrounded by sea
TheMajesticBongacorn
nuclear could save us if people stopped being so needlessly afraid of it.
AnAussieTroop
Sure nuclear power which creates waste which then needs to be dumps which would also screw the environment
numnut1987
you sir dont know what you are talking about
JustAnotherPOG
The vast majority of the waste by volume is contaminated at a very low level (and therefore low levels of containment are fine). Much (1/?)
JustAnotherPOG
of the waste with higher levels of radiation can be recycled for more fuel. The rest does require high levels of containment, but it (2/3)
beejep
That and not funding fire services for the fucked fire season they knew was coming
thewiggins
but his plane needed work
GrumpleStache
Finally someone says it!
Sensiblyinteresting
I'm sure all the newly cleared land will sell well to developers.......
PangolinBan
I'm sure they need more, but it's not like they're getting nothing.
PangolinBan
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-05/fact-check-are-nsw-firefighters-facing--budget-cuts/11747396
Hybris51129
So many people are not putting enough focus on the one thing that most directly effects what is happening. Climate change is part of the (1
Hybris51129
part but its a solution that is 20 years away when fire service is a today solution that will keep things under control until the bigger (2
Hybris51129
problem is solved. (3/3
bunduz
Dickhead goes and visits devastation, woman doesn’t want to shake his hand so he grabs her wrist and makes her do it. Then ignores her.
Eath
https://twitter.com/world_nugget/status/1212681630088777729
titaniumsnail
Wtf.
Anonypuss
Well, how else start the rapture?
PickleMeElmoooo
Yeah, any time something bad happens it's"SEE! CLIMATE CHANGE!!" But if it's cold out, or a lack of storms, "it's just weather you idiot!"
Lutki
The fact that the average temp is rising doesn't mean that Canada is suddenly going to be 100 degrees
PickleMeElmoooo
How much has the avg temp risen in the last 100 years?
looseygoosy
Try Google, you twit.
PickleMeElmoooo
Thanks troll
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MexicanTrainer
They were but humans made them worse. Anything can have disastrous effects on the environment. Humans aren't different.
GodsFoot
Fires are a natural part of the life cycle. Removes dead plants and trees, helps seeds spread, etc etc. The fire season was the hot and...
GodsFoot
Dry months. Then humans indiscrimantly put out all fires and planted trees with little genetic diversity. Dead plants and trees piled up...
GodsFoot
And forests started getting sick because of the genetic diversity problem. That is how you get super fires. Poor maintenance. Then add...
GodsFoot
On top of that climate change where winters are shorter and summers are longer and now the fire season is all year long
armagetz
Are you fucking serious? There are species that depend on it for their life cycle, it we found that attempting to suppress fires (1/2)
armagetz
(2/2)only made the eventual fire worse.
armagetz
I haven’t really it looked into it, but I couldn’t help but wonder if that’s what happened here. The US learned that hard lesson decades ago
firrup
California has their situation heavily due to heavy fire suppression. They sit on a powderkeg of packed dry lumber and overly dense forests.
JollyGreen1026
It is, but people would rather tack it on as another global warming issue rather than past human suppression.
NobodyWorthThinkingAbout
The fires in Australia are mostly because of poor management of plants, not because of climate change. You let enough fuel build up, what 1/
NobodyWorthThinkingAbout
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/may/06/how-forest-management-helps-lay-the-conditions-for-wildfires These fires were predicted.
vodmorqele
Read your sources.
NobodyWorthThinkingAbout
You should read it too.
Nyoibo83
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/dec/17/hugely-disappointed-emergency-chiefs-to-hold-bushfire-summit-with-or-without-pm
jiankui
And the management of plants has reduced because climate change is leaving a smaller window for controlled burns.
NobodyWorthThinkingAbout
would be a small fire that burns maybe a couple feet becomes a raging inferno that engulfs most of a continent. This is also why 2/
NobodyWorthThinkingAbout
California has such massive fire issues. 3/3
pissinginmyownsundressmakesmehard
Yeah rakes
PressRelease
This fella is chatting absolute shit. And hijacking people's suffering with diversionary tactics.
NobodyWorthThinkingAbout
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/may/06/how-forest-management-helps-lay-the-conditions-for-wildfires These fires were predicted.
vodmorqele
Second paragraph. Climate. Change.
NobodyWorthThinkingAbout
"The result is that fire, as integral to the forest’s life cycle as rainfall, is chased from the woods and the fuel builds up."
vodmorqele
While I am not disagreeing with your statement of fuel build up. Climate change is a definite factor in these fires. 1/?
vodmorqele
I'm from East Gippsland, where there are fire warnings for 90% of the region. The currently prolonged drought, is from climate change. 2/?
lesliebugs
EG has been developing rapidly, affecting land use, the water table, established microclimates. Modern droughts are rarely due to weather.
vodmorqele
The are should not be as dry as it is right now, couple that with weather that is more intense than the norm for this time of year. 3/?
vodmorqele
And it can not be denied the effect climate change is having on the area and Australia as a whole. 4/?
vodmorqele
The time at which the fires have occurred, coupled with their sheer intensity is unprecedented. 5/6
NobodyWorthThinkingAbout
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/may/06/how-forest-management-helps-lay-the-conditions-for-wildfires The fires were predicted.
vodmorqele
"Fires in temperate forests are generally increasing in size and area. This is partly because of climate change."
vodmorqele
That is all I have been saying, they are in part because of climate change, I am not diminishing your argument, I agree. God.
NobodyWorthThinkingAbout
"The result is that fire, as integral to the forest’s life cycle as rainfall, is chased from the woods and the fuel builds up." Obviously, 1
vodmorqele
Read just the second paragraph you drongo.
NobodyWorthThinkingAbout
Keep reading.
vodmorqele
“We may have been lulled into a false sense of our ability to control nature during the mid 20th century when climate was cooler and less pr
vodmorqele
one to drought, " Climate. Change.
NobodyWorthThinkingAbout
"The result is that fire, as integral to the forest’s life cycle as rainfall, is chased from the woods and the fuel builds up."
NobodyWorthThinkingAbout
I notice you take things out of context and didn't fully read.