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boiphamet
My mom waited till I was a depressed alcoholic having a breakdown to tell me depression runs in our family. I was 23
realargonwolf
Where I'm from we call this having a death wish.
slipmagt
It's those damn iphones!
Markamanic
All my dad does is invalidate my feelings and disrespect my wishes.
dcchillin46
Ya this is exactly my normal mood. I'm not going to kill myself, but if I didn't wake up its probably a win.
Thunderchunks
I almost got creamed by a semi in a rainstorm. First thing through my mind? "Finally."
Iamthevirus77
(1/2) For about five years I was "happy". Nothing is 100% perfect but I was content. Circumstances changed and I haven't felt
(2/2) anything close to that since then and it seems that I never will. Good things go away, but negative changes seem to stay forever.
FranxNBeans
I thought I felt this way but my reflexes have proven that to be false. When given time enough to think, it presents as active suicide.
someonesaid
i read "mfw" as "mother fucker wins"
Nachro97
There's good to be found in anything, doesn't mean it's quality couldn't be better, ask anyone who plays early phase multi-player games
mypostsecrets
I have to resist the Call of the Void
FrogDelay
I wouldn’t ever kill myself but if I got a cancer I wouldn’t tell anyone and just let it run it’s course.
07116522718
I often find myself idly daydreaming about walking into oncoming traffic.
pyr0chaos
Welcome aboard the struggle bus, my friend.
wiresnake
At least he didn't say, "oh, that's how I've felt ever since you were born." Small victories.
petresun
"Welcome to the club, motherfucker." - dad probably.
ChonkyChungus69
cepacolusmaximus
"Aww, my little baby is all grown up."
Bonchoman
Actually...pretty sure dad is the motherfukker tho
MaterialsPhysicsIsGroovy
you are technically correct....the best kind of correct!
talldrink413
Most of us are just on autopilot everyday. Thinking is too painful.
lddiaz
Fucking A.
marsgoose
It's called having a death wish, and you can be active or passive in perusing it, IE actively taking needless risks
or just stopping to take care of yourself. Same with active suicidality, it can be passive or aggressive
passive where you go and have an accident somewhere, and aggressive where you want to be found and visible, to inflict pain on your family
or the society at large, whomever you feel is causing your pain. Also I'm no expert at this, just my observations.
BusterH
Freud’s “death instinct”
BifuriousPanda
Suicidal Ideation, it's a trip. Usually that's my sign that my shit is getting out of control.
ThanatosElNyx
I think this is one step short of Suicidal Ideation is it not?
JStengah
Textbook ideation is more like, randomly thinking/wondering "what if I just veered into the path of a big truck". This is more passive, but
pretty close and a still good sign that your shit is getting out of control.
jaystevens137
I was looking for the link to this series. She explained it pretty spot on.
I posted the link below my original comment and in reply to yours and it keeps disappearing. It's Hyperbole and a Half for anyone curious
Imgur keeps eating it. It's hyperboleandahalf dot blogspot dot com
Read haunted by Chuck Palahniuk. It gives a VERY detailed description of how PTSD hides itself. Pretty graphic, fyi. Great read, though.
lwbell851337
Jesus. I love Chuck's writing, but man, Haunted was all kinds of ducked up.
VivTheKitsune
More people should read Chuck Palahniuk in general. He's a fantastic author.
catscatscatscat
Oh yea, this is how my sister's father died. He was a logger and when a log came loose from the truck, everyone ran, he didn't move.
bekindtoanimals
Wow. How sad
It is; this trauma has affected our extended family for 35+yr. I hope anyone reading this knows the magnitude and that there is always help.
Well said, friend
DoctorWhoots420
I hear ya. I have no motivation anymore. might try anti depressants. I hear it works.
cherdadub
IT DOES. IT ABSOLUTELY DOES. I used to think having meds was failing, but that's false. It's like a vitamin for my brain. It helped so much.
gibsonjoeboy9000
Yep.
CarlottaVonSprockett
Just don’t give up if you don’t find the right one the first time. Sometimes it takes combinations or varying dosages, and you and your /1
doc may need to experiment for several months to get it right. I know that’s even MORE depressing, but it’s worth it if you can find the /2
medicine that works. 3/3
tomatoboy
^this. Took me two tries to get the right medication *for me* for depression and three for anxiety. I’ve seen people who needed a dozen...
...or more medication trials to get a mental health condition under control (often people with recurrent suicide attempts or psychosis).
TheeRealDuke
They do. Talk therapy works too. Think of them as tools in your arsenal. Mindfulness meditation too. Each moves the needle. You can do it.
Thank you
magis001
They are right you know, it is not drastic, it is gradual unlocking of the you who gave a fuck, the next part is YOU: Take advantage.
DontusetheMword
This is definitely more common than we think
mentallychallengeaccepted
L’apell du vide, baby
LenoreO
I had about 3 years where I was actively pissed off to have woken up.
iguessihaveto
And for the chemical imbalances, probably at least partly hereditary.
Gorgrim
tbh with me it maybe more bad reaction time, but that again may have a factor of "do I really want to" slowing it down in this case.
Daxton
Also "if I live I can sue the living shit out of his insurance company and live well off, anything is better than this" contributes to this.
RelevantImgurian
People are just sad monke
weathers24740
In the olden days it sounded nicer, "Meloncholy".
ThisFireGrowsHigher
I used to be afraid of the dark. I literally got over it because I don't care if some monster eviscerated me.
VulfNulf
Ye
Miller16of16
Don't Fear the Reaper, now with more cowbell.
TemporalOnline
People are making it easy for Truck-kun
apeshigh
Yeah, all these youngsters feeling the need to share....when the only response from anyone older is....yes, and your point is
which1ofuflatfootsstolemylollipop
MediocreExtremist
Those truck drivers are doing a hell of a job to avoid hitting so many people
SoupCanMan
Unless you are in a Japanese anime. Truck-kun comes for us all.
therealslimlady21
A good friend of mine committed suicide this way in college. Walking along the highway and the poor truck driver couldn't avoid her.
MoxSquirrel
As someone who briefly worked in trucking insurance, it’s a fucking mess.
Fairemont
That much momentum and mass can do a lot of damage, so yeah, cleaning a human up is a mess!
Slamtastik
More and more common due to the fact that its hard to get excited about your future in todays economy.
herrleel
Forget the economy. If the climate scientists are right and we really have just 10 years or less to fix man made climate change [cont.]
[cont.] before shit really hits the fan, we're truly fucked. I don't see giant corporations and capitalist governments [cont.]
[cont.] doing nearly enough to stop or even slow down the climate crisis. No way I'm going to have kids, not on this fucked planet.
PraiseThePook
Hope has always been in short supply. Humanity is just getting better tools to communicate despair.
PicassoCT
All it needed was a total world war and a murderous competition of systems, with a thread of instant doom, to get 30 good years..
Yeah... I think people mistake the history of prosperity for some as prosperity for all. 70s, 80s, even the 90s, were full of hard times.
Bullshit, we used to have hope. Look at the way the media used to portray the future. We thought we'd have jetpacks and hoverboards by now.
Now there's cyberpunk futures, colonies in space. Read some old newspapers or watch old movies. It's all the same dystopian outlook.
GrouchyMarx
Older generations lacked proper mental health care and knowledge. They were just as miserable, they just never knew.
Ironically, they're bashing us for our mental problems for this exact reason. They assume we're weak, because unlike them, we identify them.
supercreepyroblowe
Yep. I feel this way and I consider myself a pretty happy guy all around.
brainkandle1
Yep, I'm like, bring on the asteroid while I'm sleeping
Thunderthunder
It’s hard being a people. When the stress just keeps coming at you because you’re worried about food and shelter it slowly breaks you down.
Misterdruglicious
I was twelve listening to music going downhill I swerved to cross the road right in front of a car, I didn't see it, driver and I made eye/?
-contact then I just went on my way like nothing happened, he was in shock I didn't feel anything just knew I almost died, not only time
I also had issues with my brain actively contemplating suicide and anxiety on bridges, high places, fast moving cars, I would visualize me
Killing myself and I would literally sit on the ground to like fight my brain drugs changed all that mdma, mush recall helped me just moveon
No longer brain actively tries to kill itself the fucker
cpcgamer
"oh it makes me ever so sad when you talk like that" "I'M EVER SO SAD ALL THE TIME HELP ME"
supremepork
I also choose this guy’s life
shredder134
have you been listening to my conversations?
SomeOtherOwls
As someone who has never experienced this, how can I help?
Xxd3caying4uxX
As a depressed person, help with the physical things when you can and just be there. If you have the means to go help your friend do the
Dishes or clean their room sometimes it lifts a huge weight by itself. Remind your friends to eat/drink and that they look good :)
GeorgeousGorge
My brother suffers badly with depression and I just ask him if he wants to go for a walk every so often. Makes my day when he says it helped
You obviously care. Listen, and you're already doing a lot.
n3bulon
Odds are you probably can't help. Best thing you can do is listen and not add any more hurt.
IronicDancing
Listen out for little things people like, food, music etc... Every now and again just surprise someone with it and say 1/2
"You said you liked (X)". Really makes us feel listened to. Makes us feel cared about. 2/2
SkunkMom
Just asking already shows you care :). My personal main issue is momentum. I'm most helped by someone getting me started doing somethingelse
like a walk, or taking my medicine, or eating. Once I get past the initial hill it helps me to get a bit better and do what I need
Someone explained it in spoons for me. Everyone has, lets say 20 spoons in a day. Sometimes showering take 1 spoon. Hanging with friends ...
.. takes 1 spoons. But other times, like when we're depressed, showering takes 5 spoons. Friends takes 10 spoons. Some days it takes a lot..
.. more to do something ordinarily easy. Just understanding that, and giving compassion when things take more spoons is all we need.
MaraHyena
A hug would be nice tbh
SakuraSunsets
Listen, don’t diminish their feelings or experiences, and most importantly do NOT make them feel guilty. They already do.
FallenOfDreams
The fact that you're asking this question makes me feel like you're probably already doing what you need to.
mythologization
They've got the right attitude but there are real steps and suggestions we can give people. Like practicing active listening.
theraininspainfallsmainlyontheplain
Sometimes you just listen. But helping out in small ways; making dinner, picking up an extra chore, really go a long way.
Also, if you do those small things, don’t be judgmental while you do them.
OhStopItEwe
And if you're having a good day and doing your part and someone says "why can't you do that every day?" tell them not to punish good effort.
This is why I stopped talking to my Mom about it. She just tells me I should be grateful, and tells me how sad I'm making her.
The bummer is I know she's right, and that makes me even sadder.
MaraSovsFeet
My family doesn't understand that they are ptsd triggers and being around them is mutually exclusively be to my happiness and sanity
Darkspire
She just doesn't know how to deal with it. It's okay to be unhappy, you don't need to be ashamed. Might need to try new things/hobbies.
Thanks. :) I know she loves me. I am running more, and connecting with my old mates from school through discord - that helps.
Nice! Keep up the good work
JurgenWindcallerz
Am I the only one that loves life? :o
textilelover
Nope. Just walking outside on a lovely day makes me grin and breathe deeply. And every season has lovely days.
ruferto
do you have a good-ok life? are your worries minor? did you have a good start or a rough patch you got through? these things matter
Etereo
On the internet? Almost. The edge is real here
SuicidalThrillbillyturnedLunaticChillbilly
Yes, go to happy jail! BONK
Matsuuu
Yes
VodkaReindeer
I want what this guy's having.
dalekhead
Alright show off, flashing your serotonin all over the place, reel in the good vibe enthusiasm.
HorriblyPositive
Fuck no!
noneofyournuts
Good cereal prefer fruity pebbles in all honesty though
tg2222222
Tell me your secret
I didn't used to.
SweetMystique
I do now. But there were many many many many years that I didnt.
Waldbern
I have reasons to live. But I may be one of the lucky ones.
LordPigeon
For many, you gotta pass through the pit to climb the mountain. Some dont make it out of the pit.
frostedflakesaregrrrrrreat
Yes, and you should be sad that you feel that way.
itsmesteve
It’s like...I absolutely do love life, but sometimes the outside factors of it are just really fucking overwhelming, and I need a reset.
Yeah I feel that
nickelrocket
so hang up the phone, take a nap, eat a burrito, have a cry, get it out then keep moving forward. Adulting is hard but we do it everyday.
babycoolredhead
Real depression doesn't just go away after a cry. And it's not typically a result of life being hard, it makes life harder than it is.
Lurkerdraegon
Yes.
powwerbottom
You can love life but still have your chemicals sending you messages telling you you don't. The content isn't real, but the feelings are.
Nailed it. "Hey brain, why are you telling me to end it all? It's the weekend and cartoons are on!" "Idk just die OK!?"
Wigglynoodles
Yeah those can be the hardest times, when you're actually enjoying things and your brain is like nah let's die instead it can be crushing
WoeToHice
You're not. Also, being depressed does not necessarily involve hating life. I'm depressed, but I also don't want to die. Or hate life.
grumpykumquat
Yeah, same. Love life, love people, still depressed.
Bulmero8
Why? How? Are you rich? Life is just work and sleep
colt64
I love life despite being passively suicidal most of the time. The desire to die is instinctual now, but intellectually my life is great.
annabutt3rs
I love my very small circle of people. But the majority of the time I’m not very functional! I’ve been clinically depressed for about 23 yrs
I’m glad you love your life though, it’s nice seeing happy things even if I can’t experience it!
des1957
The only non-American here I see... s/
boatymcboatfaceplant
I also love your life
Gnakenheimer
Fuck no man, I love life and I will continue to do so till the day I die
ShameSpearWillieK
Yeah. So unless...I can avoid that day. *Laughs in evil*
hamper10
I dunno why but I'm imagining this guy saying this as he straps himself to train tracks all nonchalantly
And loving every moment of it :D
BunnsyAdventure
What’s your secret?
Atomic2
Nope, and sometimes I have guilt for loving life while others are miserable, but at the same time, there have been times I've also had >>
stretches of time I thought it would be easier to not exist. But at the end of the day, I'm happy to be here, and I want to be here a long>
time. //
I love life, but sometimes I'm depressed and suicidal too. Even while loving life.
TheProofIsInDePudding
FireRoastedFire
I have moments where life is beautiful and love every moment, and some where I wish I stopped living.
WendyTheWendigo
I love life but it's a slog.
mmartin762
APieceOfFuckingShit
I'm sure you're not the only one. I wish I loved life, would be much easier then.
As someone who works and struggles to enjoy life, it brings me happiness when I see people like you. Nobody should feel like they hate life.
Mairoa
Lol I'm not sure how else to feel. It's just been misery as far as I can remember, surviving from moment to moment. Like what else is there?
I understand. It's definitely a force of will, and actively pursuing it may only result in moments of joy for a while.
BahamutBBob
I would try to get out of the way.
LuffyDmonkey1
I love life, it's pretty good actually ^.^ ups and doooooowwwwnnnssss but I really enjoy it
Rohgen
No there are others with money
Not to be that guy, but loving life is a privilege most never get to enjoy, simply trying to survive.
cptcr
teach me how
Gordeba
To the people downvoting this, I'm here if you want to talk
ihaveblunderedyetagain
No. But you people confuse me.
wickednoreaster
Probably
MtMuschmore
Love life, hate work. I feel that's the most common and when so many hours are spent at work it...
Letstriptogether
I've been depressed for several years. Back then I thought I'd never say this ever again: I do love life. So no, you're not alone.
I love life very much. That's why I hurt all the time. I look around me. That's all it takes, now.
*hug*
LonelyHumanBoy
If your name is a Starseige reference, you have no one to blame but yourself for creating the robot antichrist :p
Starseige? Holy shit. No way! Great game! Prometheus will rule!
Seriously thought I was the only one who played that for a long time.
One if my favorite games of all time, that and Tribes was a special part of my childhood.
RustyNeX
i am more and more convinced that depression is the default state for humans, we just don't talk about it.
RoombaTheAssaultVacuum
With how EVERYONE seems to have it I'm convinced it's 100% of the population.
relatablesarcasticguy
ThisIsTheShortestUsernameICouldFind
It’s the default state in our society, but definitely not what we’re supposed to be
GentlemanJawa
I tend to think that mild depression has become the default but it definitely isn’t supposed to be.
Joysins
Its not
StellaMatutina
That's what they WANT you to believe!!
theredacted
I slightly disagree, I think the internet has ironically made more people lonely.
chunglungus
i think it's more about your environment and feeling like you have a modicum of control. most ppl i know have very little control due to >
lack of $, or education / know-how, or social acceptance (being too geeky, manic, the "wrong" sexual orientation, or race).
SephReed
My gf and I theorize that depression is natures way of saying "not you." And given we're overpopulating, there's a lot to spare.
Justanotherginger
I once explained to some friends that I will always sacrifice myself for a stranger because I don’t value my own life, and it shocked them.
You are assigning a social problem to a species.
Not for me
dashthefox
It's the default when something is wrong and there's nothing we can do about it.
It isn’t.
Dumfk
Others on here disagree but I don't. We must have a purpose. In the past it was survive and sex. If we have no purpose then biologically 1/2
Our existence is unnecessary. Moder times it is to easy to survive and porn satisfies sex. So we have to create a new purpose. 2/2
Want to not be depressed? Find a fulfilling purpose in life. Though there are some other types of clinical depression this does not apply to
CallsYouATosser
Depression (not as an emotional disorder but as en emotion) exists as an adaptive trait. Doing the same thing repeatedly without apparent 1/
result induces depression in our prehistoric ancestors because those who didn't stop and try something wasted time they could've applied 2/
*(try something else) toward behaviors that kept them alive. Hence, those who don't experience depression when working without clear 3/
result have most likely died out of the species entirely. And the world we know now is largely composed of working without result. 4/
That's the evolutionary psychology perspective. Please note that it doesn't attempt to account for depression as a diagnosed illness. 5/
PigsWeGetWhatPigsDeserve
Speak for yourself.
loser9999
I think it's more of a continuous grind with no real threat of death. It sounds goofy but you either need various joys or a threat of
Imminent death to feel happy.
And i don't mean the death threat itself but the endorphins released afterwards to balance you out
PrfctDrk
I swear I've heard that, the more the brain knows about itself and it's inner workings, the more it wants to OFF itself?? Anybody confirm?
sporkulese
I have a personal story of the opposite. Going through alcoholism, learning how my brain was doing the wrong thing fucking sucked, but the1
More I learned about the disease and not importantly, myself, I was able to accept myself and love myself more, despite the shitty disease 2
(*more importantly*) and the decisions I had made in the midst of it. Learning about my disease process helped me. But it did suck going 3
Through the process.
franklydizzy
I feel like it's more the conditions that make us depressed have been normalized.
Give this person a cookie: Promote caffeine and wealth, outlaw natural medicine.. I could list for days, and will if ya wanna PM me.
GrassssssssTastesBad
Yup, we glorify overworking ourselves and wonder why we all wanna fucking die
FullMetalJackass
I concur.
killbillsexwife
It’s not
srslymad
Maybe happy people are the ill ones. Who knows?
sevenfingerman
You sure? Cause that truck thing really resonates.
blurgh
Depression literally dont exist in hunter gatherer societies. (our natural state)
myusernameisntfunny
At least accepting you're depressed is a good start. Most people don't realize they suffer it. Time to find out why you have it. Good luck.
TheOnlyRival
There's a lot of Greek Philosophers who have smthg to say Sug. video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu7n0XzqtfA&ab_channel=TheSchoolofLife
jboking
Sartre and Nietzsche have quite a bit to say about stoicism, too.
Yes, I’m sure. Look at kids. Also I’m not depressed.
phobos535
Kids dont count. Kids havent live yet. The older you get the less inclined you are to evade that truck.
You just worked out that depression isn’t normal
WorkerBey
Can’t be the default state if it’s caused by years and years of experiences.
Mechwarrior719
It’s not. I don’t want to sound too crunchy granola here but it is largely because we struggle against ourselves because how easy life is.
Our ancestors basically spent all day struggling to stay alive against an environment they didn’t control.
We replaced saber-tooth cats and wolves with bills and work and our ape brains don’t know how to adapt to these stresses.
28032017
"You're depressed cause you have it too easy" is probably the most toxic thing I've read today.
skyconb
"Too easy" is an oversimplification of what they are saying. It is more about hormones. We used to live lives that made our bodies produce
Scorch052
It's not. Actually think about it. They're saying pre-historic humans lived in an environment they were built for, and we do not.
People are depressed because they live paycheck to paycheck in a world where the only options are different forms of being exploited.
Usernamedies
Plenty of people grew up in an environment that was horribly toxic that they coudltn control and then kicked to the curb as soon as they
Turned 18 if not younger. World is not easy right now. Maybe for some but not for alot.
CloakedFigure
It’s a common symptom in intelligent species. We’re just apes with anxiety.
MikeStinse
And taxes
SwankyPotato
And memes
UnrustleYerJimmies
Thank God ?
RawSuger
nah especially not clinical depression. many ppl are somewhat sad and unfulfilled, not even sure thats a majority. actual depession is rare.
Trustmeimadogtor
Clinical depression is not rare by any means. But that doesn't mean people are permanently depressed either. Many people have mental health
problems or crises for a period during their life and are able to get treatment or it resolves.
never met a person who hasn't at some point wanted to kill themselves
loma45
I've never wanted to kill myself.
WibblyWobblySineLine
Normal to experience depression of some form, not normal to live in it.
zFUBARz
Yeah nothing like that yet for me, but I'm only middle aged so there's still time.
*thought about it, youve never met anyone who wanted to. and bouts of depression likely most ppl have such, not default state
well i have met a few people who are now dead, so there is that.
ye fair :) still suicidal is not default state, or there's be a bunch more suicides.its very normal to not be ok,but depression is crippling
DrBlackJack
Everyone gets depressed, clinical depression is when it never stops, even when everything is going good. It's a chemical imbalance, not 1/2
a state of mind. The problem is it's hard to recognize the difference looking inward. Sometimes you need a professional's assessment.
There’s situational depression (temporary, brought on by your surroundings or current life experiences, usually resolved with therapy or /1
occasionally a temporary prescription) and there’s clinical depression (your brain just doesn’t make the eighth chemicals and never will /2
so you need medication always). Situational depression isn’t uncommon, so it’s not surprising you’ve met a lot of people who have /3
boiphamet
My mom waited till I was a depressed alcoholic having a breakdown to tell me depression runs in our family. I was 23
realargonwolf
Where I'm from we call this having a death wish.
slipmagt
It's those damn iphones!
Markamanic
All my dad does is invalidate my feelings and disrespect my wishes.
dcchillin46
Ya this is exactly my normal mood. I'm not going to kill myself, but if I didn't wake up its probably a win.
Thunderchunks
I almost got creamed by a semi in a rainstorm. First thing through my mind? "Finally."
Iamthevirus77
(1/2) For about five years I was "happy". Nothing is 100% perfect but I was content. Circumstances changed and I haven't felt
Iamthevirus77
(2/2) anything close to that since then and it seems that I never will. Good things go away, but negative changes seem to stay forever.
FranxNBeans
I thought I felt this way but my reflexes have proven that to be false. When given time enough to think, it presents as active suicide.
someonesaid
i read "mfw" as "mother fucker wins"
Nachro97
There's good to be found in anything, doesn't mean it's quality couldn't be better, ask anyone who plays early phase multi-player games
mypostsecrets
I have to resist the Call of the Void
FrogDelay
I wouldn’t ever kill myself but if I got a cancer I wouldn’t tell anyone and just let it run it’s course.
07116522718
I often find myself idly daydreaming about walking into oncoming traffic.
pyr0chaos
Welcome aboard the struggle bus, my friend.
wiresnake
At least he didn't say, "oh, that's how I've felt ever since you were born." Small victories.
petresun
"Welcome to the club, motherfucker." - dad probably.
ChonkyChungus69
cepacolusmaximus
"Aww, my little baby is all grown up."
Bonchoman
Actually...pretty sure dad is the motherfukker tho
MaterialsPhysicsIsGroovy
you are technically correct....the best kind of correct!
talldrink413
Most of us are just on autopilot everyday. Thinking is too painful.
lddiaz
Fucking A.
marsgoose
It's called having a death wish, and you can be active or passive in perusing it, IE actively taking needless risks
marsgoose
or just stopping to take care of yourself. Same with active suicidality, it can be passive or aggressive
marsgoose
passive where you go and have an accident somewhere, and aggressive where you want to be found and visible, to inflict pain on your family
marsgoose
or the society at large, whomever you feel is causing your pain. Also I'm no expert at this, just my observations.
BusterH
Freud’s “death instinct”
BifuriousPanda
Suicidal Ideation, it's a trip. Usually that's my sign that my shit is getting out of control.
ThanatosElNyx
I think this is one step short of Suicidal Ideation is it not?
JStengah
Textbook ideation is more like, randomly thinking/wondering "what if I just veered into the path of a big truck". This is more passive, but
JStengah
pretty close and a still good sign that your shit is getting out of control.
JStengah
jaystevens137
I was looking for the link to this series. She explained it pretty spot on.
JStengah
I posted the link below my original comment and in reply to yours and it keeps disappearing. It's Hyperbole and a Half for anyone curious
JStengah
Imgur keeps eating it. It's hyperboleandahalf dot blogspot dot com
petresun
Read haunted by Chuck Palahniuk. It gives a VERY detailed description of how PTSD hides itself. Pretty graphic, fyi. Great read, though.
lwbell851337
Jesus. I love Chuck's writing, but man, Haunted was all kinds of ducked up.
VivTheKitsune
More people should read Chuck Palahniuk in general. He's a fantastic author.
catscatscatscat
Oh yea, this is how my sister's father died. He was a logger and when a log came loose from the truck, everyone ran, he didn't move.
bekindtoanimals
Wow. How sad
catscatscatscat
It is; this trauma has affected our extended family for 35+yr. I hope anyone reading this knows the magnitude and that there is always help.
bekindtoanimals
Well said, friend
DoctorWhoots420
I hear ya. I have no motivation anymore. might try anti depressants. I hear it works.
cherdadub
IT DOES. IT ABSOLUTELY DOES. I used to think having meds was failing, but that's false. It's like a vitamin for my brain. It helped so much.
gibsonjoeboy9000
Yep.
CarlottaVonSprockett
Just don’t give up if you don’t find the right one the first time. Sometimes it takes combinations or varying dosages, and you and your /1
CarlottaVonSprockett
doc may need to experiment for several months to get it right. I know that’s even MORE depressing, but it’s worth it if you can find the /2
CarlottaVonSprockett
medicine that works. 3/3
tomatoboy
^this. Took me two tries to get the right medication *for me* for depression and three for anxiety. I’ve seen people who needed a dozen...
tomatoboy
...or more medication trials to get a mental health condition under control (often people with recurrent suicide attempts or psychosis).
TheeRealDuke
They do. Talk therapy works too. Think of them as tools in your arsenal. Mindfulness meditation too. Each moves the needle. You can do it.
DoctorWhoots420
Thank you
magis001
They are right you know, it is not drastic, it is gradual unlocking of the you who gave a fuck, the next part is YOU: Take advantage.
DontusetheMword
This is definitely more common than we think
mentallychallengeaccepted
L’apell du vide, baby
LenoreO
I had about 3 years where I was actively pissed off to have woken up.
iguessihaveto
And for the chemical imbalances, probably at least partly hereditary.
Gorgrim
tbh with me it maybe more bad reaction time, but that again may have a factor of "do I really want to" slowing it down in this case.
Daxton
Also "if I live I can sue the living shit out of his insurance company and live well off, anything is better than this" contributes to this.
RelevantImgurian
People are just sad monke
weathers24740
In the olden days it sounded nicer, "Meloncholy".
ThisFireGrowsHigher
I used to be afraid of the dark. I literally got over it because I don't care if some monster eviscerated me.
VulfNulf
Ye
Miller16of16
Don't Fear the Reaper, now with more cowbell.
TemporalOnline
People are making it easy for Truck-kun
apeshigh
Yeah, all these youngsters feeling the need to share....when the only response from anyone older is....yes, and your point is
which1ofuflatfootsstolemylollipop
MediocreExtremist
Those truck drivers are doing a hell of a job to avoid hitting so many people
SoupCanMan
Unless you are in a Japanese anime. Truck-kun comes for us all.
therealslimlady21
A good friend of mine committed suicide this way in college. Walking along the highway and the poor truck driver couldn't avoid her.
MoxSquirrel
As someone who briefly worked in trucking insurance, it’s a fucking mess.
Fairemont
That much momentum and mass can do a lot of damage, so yeah, cleaning a human up is a mess!
Slamtastik
More and more common due to the fact that its hard to get excited about your future in todays economy.
herrleel
Forget the economy. If the climate scientists are right and we really have just 10 years or less to fix man made climate change [cont.]
herrleel
[cont.] before shit really hits the fan, we're truly fucked. I don't see giant corporations and capitalist governments [cont.]
herrleel
[cont.] doing nearly enough to stop or even slow down the climate crisis. No way I'm going to have kids, not on this fucked planet.
PraiseThePook
Hope has always been in short supply. Humanity is just getting better tools to communicate despair.
PicassoCT
All it needed was a total world war and a murderous competition of systems, with a thread of instant doom, to get 30 good years..
PraiseThePook
Yeah... I think people mistake the history of prosperity for some as prosperity for all. 70s, 80s, even the 90s, were full of hard times.
Slamtastik
Bullshit, we used to have hope. Look at the way the media used to portray the future. We thought we'd have jetpacks and hoverboards by now.
PraiseThePook
Now there's cyberpunk futures, colonies in space. Read some old newspapers or watch old movies. It's all the same dystopian outlook.
GrouchyMarx
Older generations lacked proper mental health care and knowledge. They were just as miserable, they just never knew.
GrouchyMarx
Ironically, they're bashing us for our mental problems for this exact reason. They assume we're weak, because unlike them, we identify them.
supercreepyroblowe
Yep. I feel this way and I consider myself a pretty happy guy all around.
brainkandle1
Yep, I'm like, bring on the asteroid while I'm sleeping
Thunderthunder
It’s hard being a people. When the stress just keeps coming at you because you’re worried about food and shelter it slowly breaks you down.
Misterdruglicious
I was twelve listening to music going downhill I swerved to cross the road right in front of a car, I didn't see it, driver and I made eye/?
Misterdruglicious
-contact then I just went on my way like nothing happened, he was in shock I didn't feel anything just knew I almost died, not only time
Misterdruglicious
I also had issues with my brain actively contemplating suicide and anxiety on bridges, high places, fast moving cars, I would visualize me
Misterdruglicious
Killing myself and I would literally sit on the ground to like fight my brain drugs changed all that mdma, mush recall helped me just moveon
Misterdruglicious
No longer brain actively tries to kill itself the fucker
cpcgamer
"oh it makes me ever so sad when you talk like that" "I'M EVER SO SAD ALL THE TIME HELP ME"
supremepork
I also choose this guy’s life
shredder134
have you been listening to my conversations?
SomeOtherOwls
As someone who has never experienced this, how can I help?
Xxd3caying4uxX
As a depressed person, help with the physical things when you can and just be there. If you have the means to go help your friend do the
Xxd3caying4uxX
Dishes or clean their room sometimes it lifts a huge weight by itself. Remind your friends to eat/drink and that they look good :)
GeorgeousGorge
My brother suffers badly with depression and I just ask him if he wants to go for a walk every so often. Makes my day when he says it helped
MaterialsPhysicsIsGroovy
You obviously care. Listen, and you're already doing a lot.
n3bulon
Odds are you probably can't help. Best thing you can do is listen and not add any more hurt.
IronicDancing
Listen out for little things people like, food, music etc... Every now and again just surprise someone with it and say 1/2
IronicDancing
"You said you liked (X)". Really makes us feel listened to. Makes us feel cared about. 2/2
SkunkMom
Just asking already shows you care :). My personal main issue is momentum. I'm most helped by someone getting me started doing somethingelse
SkunkMom
like a walk, or taking my medicine, or eating. Once I get past the initial hill it helps me to get a bit better and do what I need
cherdadub
Someone explained it in spoons for me. Everyone has, lets say 20 spoons in a day. Sometimes showering take 1 spoon. Hanging with friends ...
cherdadub
.. takes 1 spoons. But other times, like when we're depressed, showering takes 5 spoons. Friends takes 10 spoons. Some days it takes a lot..
cherdadub
.. more to do something ordinarily easy. Just understanding that, and giving compassion when things take more spoons is all we need.
MaraHyena
A hug would be nice tbh
SakuraSunsets
Listen, don’t diminish their feelings or experiences, and most importantly do NOT make them feel guilty. They already do.
FallenOfDreams
The fact that you're asking this question makes me feel like you're probably already doing what you need to.
mythologization
They've got the right attitude but there are real steps and suggestions we can give people. Like practicing active listening.
theraininspainfallsmainlyontheplain
Sometimes you just listen. But helping out in small ways; making dinner, picking up an extra chore, really go a long way.
CarlottaVonSprockett
Also, if you do those small things, don’t be judgmental while you do them.
OhStopItEwe
And if you're having a good day and doing your part and someone says "why can't you do that every day?" tell them not to punish good effort.
MaterialsPhysicsIsGroovy
This is why I stopped talking to my Mom about it. She just tells me I should be grateful, and tells me how sad I'm making her.
MaterialsPhysicsIsGroovy
The bummer is I know she's right, and that makes me even sadder.
MaraSovsFeet
My family doesn't understand that they are ptsd triggers and being around them is mutually exclusively be to my happiness and sanity
Darkspire
She just doesn't know how to deal with it. It's okay to be unhappy, you don't need to be ashamed. Might need to try new things/hobbies.
MaterialsPhysicsIsGroovy
Thanks. :) I know she loves me. I am running more, and connecting with my old mates from school through discord - that helps.
Darkspire
Nice! Keep up the good work
JurgenWindcallerz
Am I the only one that loves life? :o
textilelover
Nope. Just walking outside on a lovely day makes me grin and breathe deeply. And every season has lovely days.
ruferto
do you have a good-ok life? are your worries minor? did you have a good start or a rough patch you got through? these things matter
Etereo
On the internet? Almost. The edge is real here
cepacolusmaximus
SuicidalThrillbillyturnedLunaticChillbilly
Yes, go to happy jail! BONK
Matsuuu
Yes
VodkaReindeer
I want what this guy's having.
dalekhead
Alright show off, flashing your serotonin all over the place, reel in the good vibe enthusiasm.
HorriblyPositive
Fuck no!
noneofyournuts
Good cereal prefer fruity pebbles in all honesty though
tg2222222
Tell me your secret
TheeRealDuke
I didn't used to.
SweetMystique
I do now. But there were many many many many years that I didnt.
Waldbern
I have reasons to live. But I may be one of the lucky ones.
LordPigeon
For many, you gotta pass through the pit to climb the mountain. Some dont make it out of the pit.
frostedflakesaregrrrrrreat
Yes, and you should be sad that you feel that way.
itsmesteve
It’s like...I absolutely do love life, but sometimes the outside factors of it are just really fucking overwhelming, and I need a reset.
JurgenWindcallerz
Yeah I feel that
nickelrocket
so hang up the phone, take a nap, eat a burrito, have a cry, get it out then keep moving forward. Adulting is hard but we do it everyday.
babycoolredhead
Real depression doesn't just go away after a cry. And it's not typically a result of life being hard, it makes life harder than it is.
Lurkerdraegon
Yes.
powwerbottom
You can love life but still have your chemicals sending you messages telling you you don't. The content isn't real, but the feelings are.
brainkandle1
Nailed it. "Hey brain, why are you telling me to end it all? It's the weekend and cartoons are on!" "Idk just die OK!?"
Wigglynoodles
Yeah those can be the hardest times, when you're actually enjoying things and your brain is like nah let's die instead it can be crushing
WoeToHice
You're not. Also, being depressed does not necessarily involve hating life. I'm depressed, but I also don't want to die. Or hate life.
grumpykumquat
Yeah, same. Love life, love people, still depressed.
Bulmero8
Why? How? Are you rich? Life is just work and sleep
colt64
I love life despite being passively suicidal most of the time. The desire to die is instinctual now, but intellectually my life is great.
annabutt3rs
I love my very small circle of people. But the majority of the time I’m not very functional! I’ve been clinically depressed for about 23 yrs
annabutt3rs
I’m glad you love your life though, it’s nice seeing happy things even if I can’t experience it!
des1957
The only non-American here I see... s/
boatymcboatfaceplant
I also love your life
Gnakenheimer
Fuck no man, I love life and I will continue to do so till the day I die
ShameSpearWillieK
Yeah. So unless...I can avoid that day. *Laughs in evil*
hamper10
I dunno why but I'm imagining this guy saying this as he straps himself to train tracks all nonchalantly
Gnakenheimer
And loving every moment of it :D
BunnsyAdventure
What’s your secret?
Atomic2
Nope, and sometimes I have guilt for loving life while others are miserable, but at the same time, there have been times I've also had >>
Atomic2
stretches of time I thought it would be easier to not exist. But at the end of the day, I'm happy to be here, and I want to be here a long>
Atomic2
time. //
cherdadub
I love life, but sometimes I'm depressed and suicidal too. Even while loving life.
TheProofIsInDePudding
Yes
FireRoastedFire
I have moments where life is beautiful and love every moment, and some where I wish I stopped living.
WendyTheWendigo
I love life but it's a slog.
mmartin762
Yes
APieceOfFuckingShit
I'm sure you're not the only one. I wish I loved life, would be much easier then.
babycoolredhead
As someone who works and struggles to enjoy life, it brings me happiness when I see people like you. Nobody should feel like they hate life.
Mairoa
Lol I'm not sure how else to feel. It's just been misery as far as I can remember, surviving from moment to moment. Like what else is there?
babycoolredhead
I understand. It's definitely a force of will, and actively pursuing it may only result in moments of joy for a while.
BahamutBBob
I would try to get out of the way.
LuffyDmonkey1
I love life, it's pretty good actually ^.^ ups and doooooowwwwnnnssss but I really enjoy it
Rohgen
No there are others with money
magis001
Not to be that guy, but loving life is a privilege most never get to enjoy, simply trying to survive.
cptcr
teach me how
Gordeba
To the people downvoting this, I'm here if you want to talk
ihaveblunderedyetagain
No. But you people confuse me.
wickednoreaster
Probably
MtMuschmore
Love life, hate work. I feel that's the most common and when so many hours are spent at work it...
Letstriptogether
I've been depressed for several years. Back then I thought I'd never say this ever again: I do love life. So no, you're not alone.
petresun
I love life very much. That's why I hurt all the time. I look around me. That's all it takes, now.
magis001
*hug*
LonelyHumanBoy
If your name is a Starseige reference, you have no one to blame but yourself for creating the robot antichrist :p
petresun
Starseige? Holy shit. No way! Great game! Prometheus will rule!
petresun
Seriously thought I was the only one who played that for a long time.
LonelyHumanBoy
One if my favorite games of all time, that and Tribes was a special part of my childhood.
RustyNeX
i am more and more convinced that depression is the default state for humans, we just don't talk about it.
RoombaTheAssaultVacuum
With how EVERYONE seems to have it I'm convinced it's 100% of the population.
relatablesarcasticguy
ThisIsTheShortestUsernameICouldFind
It’s the default state in our society, but definitely not what we’re supposed to be
GentlemanJawa
I tend to think that mild depression has become the default but it definitely isn’t supposed to be.
Joysins
Its not
StellaMatutina
That's what they WANT you to believe!!
theredacted
I slightly disagree, I think the internet has ironically made more people lonely.
chunglungus
i think it's more about your environment and feeling like you have a modicum of control. most ppl i know have very little control due to >
chunglungus
lack of $, or education / know-how, or social acceptance (being too geeky, manic, the "wrong" sexual orientation, or race).
SephReed
My gf and I theorize that depression is natures way of saying "not you." And given we're overpopulating, there's a lot to spare.
Justanotherginger
I once explained to some friends that I will always sacrifice myself for a stranger because I don’t value my own life, and it shocked them.
magis001
You are assigning a social problem to a species.
powwerbottom
Not for me
dashthefox
It's the default when something is wrong and there's nothing we can do about it.
tomatoboy
It isn’t.
Dumfk
Others on here disagree but I don't. We must have a purpose. In the past it was survive and sex. If we have no purpose then biologically 1/2
Dumfk
Our existence is unnecessary. Moder times it is to easy to survive and porn satisfies sex. So we have to create a new purpose. 2/2
Dumfk
Want to not be depressed? Find a fulfilling purpose in life. Though there are some other types of clinical depression this does not apply to
CallsYouATosser
Depression (not as an emotional disorder but as en emotion) exists as an adaptive trait. Doing the same thing repeatedly without apparent 1/
CallsYouATosser
result induces depression in our prehistoric ancestors because those who didn't stop and try something wasted time they could've applied 2/
CallsYouATosser
*(try something else) toward behaviors that kept them alive. Hence, those who don't experience depression when working without clear 3/
CallsYouATosser
result have most likely died out of the species entirely. And the world we know now is largely composed of working without result. 4/
CallsYouATosser
That's the evolutionary psychology perspective. Please note that it doesn't attempt to account for depression as a diagnosed illness. 5/
PigsWeGetWhatPigsDeserve
Speak for yourself.
loser9999
I think it's more of a continuous grind with no real threat of death. It sounds goofy but you either need various joys or a threat of
loser9999
Imminent death to feel happy.
loser9999
And i don't mean the death threat itself but the endorphins released afterwards to balance you out
PrfctDrk
I swear I've heard that, the more the brain knows about itself and it's inner workings, the more it wants to OFF itself?? Anybody confirm?
sporkulese
I have a personal story of the opposite. Going through alcoholism, learning how my brain was doing the wrong thing fucking sucked, but the1
sporkulese
More I learned about the disease and not importantly, myself, I was able to accept myself and love myself more, despite the shitty disease 2
sporkulese
(*more importantly*) and the decisions I had made in the midst of it. Learning about my disease process helped me. But it did suck going 3
sporkulese
Through the process.
franklydizzy
I feel like it's more the conditions that make us depressed have been normalized.
magis001
Give this person a cookie: Promote caffeine and wealth, outlaw natural medicine.. I could list for days, and will if ya wanna PM me.
GrassssssssTastesBad
Yup, we glorify overworking ourselves and wonder why we all wanna fucking die
FullMetalJackass
I concur.
killbillsexwife
It’s not
srslymad
Maybe happy people are the ill ones. Who knows?
sevenfingerman
You sure? Cause that truck thing really resonates.
blurgh
Depression literally dont exist in hunter gatherer societies. (our natural state)
myusernameisntfunny
At least accepting you're depressed is a good start. Most people don't realize they suffer it. Time to find out why you have it. Good luck.
TheOnlyRival
There's a lot of Greek Philosophers who have smthg to say Sug. video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu7n0XzqtfA&ab_channel=TheSchoolofLife
jboking
Sartre and Nietzsche have quite a bit to say about stoicism, too.
killbillsexwife
Yes, I’m sure. Look at kids. Also I’m not depressed.
phobos535
Kids dont count. Kids havent live yet. The older you get the less inclined you are to evade that truck.
killbillsexwife
You just worked out that depression isn’t normal
WorkerBey
Can’t be the default state if it’s caused by years and years of experiences.
Mechwarrior719
It’s not. I don’t want to sound too crunchy granola here but it is largely because we struggle against ourselves because how easy life is.
Mechwarrior719
Our ancestors basically spent all day struggling to stay alive against an environment they didn’t control.
Mechwarrior719
We replaced saber-tooth cats and wolves with bills and work and our ape brains don’t know how to adapt to these stresses.
28032017
"You're depressed cause you have it too easy" is probably the most toxic thing I've read today.
skyconb
"Too easy" is an oversimplification of what they are saying. It is more about hormones. We used to live lives that made our bodies produce
Scorch052
It's not. Actually think about it. They're saying pre-historic humans lived in an environment they were built for, and we do not.
28032017
People are depressed because they live paycheck to paycheck in a world where the only options are different forms of being exploited.
Usernamedies
Plenty of people grew up in an environment that was horribly toxic that they coudltn control and then kicked to the curb as soon as they
Usernamedies
Turned 18 if not younger. World is not easy right now. Maybe for some but not for alot.
CloakedFigure
It’s a common symptom in intelligent species. We’re just apes with anxiety.
MikeStinse
And taxes
SwankyPotato
And memes
UnrustleYerJimmies
Thank God ?
RawSuger
nah especially not clinical depression. many ppl are somewhat sad and unfulfilled, not even sure thats a majority. actual depession is rare.
Trustmeimadogtor
Clinical depression is not rare by any means. But that doesn't mean people are permanently depressed either. Many people have mental health
Trustmeimadogtor
problems or crises for a period during their life and are able to get treatment or it resolves.
RustyNeX
never met a person who hasn't at some point wanted to kill themselves
loma45
I've never wanted to kill myself.
WibblyWobblySineLine
Normal to experience depression of some form, not normal to live in it.
zFUBARz
Yeah nothing like that yet for me, but I'm only middle aged so there's still time.
RawSuger
*thought about it, youve never met anyone who wanted to. and bouts of depression likely most ppl have such, not default state
RustyNeX
well i have met a few people who are now dead, so there is that.
RawSuger
ye fair :) still suicidal is not default state, or there's be a bunch more suicides.its very normal to not be ok,but depression is crippling
DrBlackJack
Everyone gets depressed, clinical depression is when it never stops, even when everything is going good. It's a chemical imbalance, not 1/2
DrBlackJack
a state of mind. The problem is it's hard to recognize the difference looking inward. Sometimes you need a professional's assessment.
CarlottaVonSprockett
There’s situational depression (temporary, brought on by your surroundings or current life experiences, usually resolved with therapy or /1
CarlottaVonSprockett
occasionally a temporary prescription) and there’s clinical depression (your brain just doesn’t make the eighth chemicals and never will /2
CarlottaVonSprockett
so you need medication always). Situational depression isn’t uncommon, so it’s not surprising you’ve met a lot of people who have /3