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Just in case you guys want to try it on your own
MyFrontPorchInMississippi
#1 you blasphemous bastard. That isn't just a chicken sandwich, that's the MOTHERFUCKING DOUBLE DOWN!
Terebravisse
RhymeRuin
Im not sure which is worse environmentally, red meat or almond milk... Both use huge amounts of water. And both are delicious.
Armourhotdog
#9 got me
adorkable513
I had a "friend" who compared the killing of pigs to the killing of jews in the Holocaust. I'm Jewish.
Manbob456
#15 well I hope mike is okay!!!
murphybrownknowerabouter
the only funny thing about this post is how you're all too dumb to recognize how fake the posts are
CliffordJohnsonMiller
I fucking love vegans. Leaving more for the rest of us. Very nice of them.
delaneige
That's what I tell people. I'm vegetarian, but IDGAF what others eat. I hate it when vegans & omnivores shit on each other though. So dumb.
ButtBattalion
1 Everyone should be vegan, or at least severely reduce animal product consumption. Not for the animals; nature is even crueler than farming
ButtBattalion
2 and humans are apex predators. It's about the impact on the environment. Farming is far worse than all of transport combined for emission
nifac71
My mom has recently become vegan for health reasons, not animal rights. I honestly think the food tastes way better.
nifac71
Starch Solution and Preventing and reversing heart disease with a plant based diet are great books for those with health or weight problems
cuttlefishsticks
I mean... can't speak for the tofu or flax, but those are totally legit egg substitutions. (For baking. Not omelettes you dingus.)
Zahnradfee
Soy flour works super as egg substitution in baked goods.
nefmon
Yeah, I am not a vegan, but I have an egg allergy and I am grateful for those few producers who use soy or other things instead of eggs.
qaaaaa
So many people who don't know about rennet... Cows die to make cheese.
khaleesimotherofkittycats
I think there's other ways to make rennet though, since I've seen "vegetarian cheese" or whatever they call it
garulfos
I sleep better having met the meat in my freezer, and knowing it had a great life before I turned it into food.
CasualAtlas
puppiesarepoopers
stuff like this is very useful for those who need it. i don't get why anyone else would care if someone uses it.
ObviouslyNotAnFBISurveillanceVanInYourDriveway
#1 I really miss the Doublicious. Had a few back in my heydays...
Cliffy1616
#4 I may not be a smart man but atleast I'm smarter than this individual.
Zahnradfee
Uhm, but s/he is not very far off. http://kb.rspca.org.au/what-happens-to-bobby-calves_87.html
Cliffy1616
As I said I'm not a very smart man. But thanks for the source at the end of the day doesn't hurt to learn something new.
dootdootbop
I'm not vegan at all, but why is being vegan so horrible? Meat and the production of animal products is really bad for the environment.
puppiesarepoopers
it's not horrible at all. there's just a trend of assuming all vegans are annoying extremists & mocking them for it. as with most issues the
puppiesarepoopers
crap we see online is not at all representative of the real world. in my experience people who act like this IRL are in Jr. high, not adults
Inevitableq
My response to vegans and vegetarians alike: For every animal you dont eat. Im going to eat three.
puppiesarepoopers
but how are you gonna keep track of that?
Inevitableq
Note pad. So far ive been lucky. Dont meet many of them.
Zahnradfee
And why do you feel good about that? About 14%-18% of human greenhouse gasses are because of mass animal keeping. And this is much more >
Zahnradfee
than it would be with a largely vegan lifestyle. https://static.skepticalscience.com/pics/EWGGHGLCA.jpg
Inevitableq
Found the vegan.
Kittenswithasteamedcoat
Met many vegetarians & vegans through animal rescue work. Most of them are totally quiet about their diets. It's arbitrary, folks.
AnyaJenkins
You know, I've never met a vegan irl, but I am getting tired of this circlejerk
captmafune
Found the vegan.
DrLadyfingersMD
I don't eat animal products and there's a reason I don't say "I'm vegan". These people are so fucken annoying. I don't wanna be associated.
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I'm vegetarian and (besides rn) I don't tell people unless they offer me meat and I don't want to seem rude. I'll tell them then.
puppiesarepoopers
i hate labels but it saves a lot of time to just say you're vegan. of course, some people still don't know what that encompasses while
puppiesarepoopers
others use it against you, if they ever see you eating something potentially unvegan.
DrLadyfingersMD
That's probably the most annoying thing. Eat a Hershey's kiss someone offered you? "I thought you were fucking vegan" lol
puppiesarepoopers
"oh, you're eating honey! oh, can you have bread?" I like bees around. bread never has dairy/eggs unless its specialty bread.
GadenKerensky
I wonder if the day will ever come where all meat is produced in lab factories. It's literally grown as meat. No suffering because it was 1>
CorvusBelli
Once the cost of producing it becomes cheaper than raising the animal, definitely.
GadenKerensky
Exactly. And it may become cheaper given a number of reasons, if the technology improves; space, feed and health.
GadenKerensky
never 'alive' to begin with. No brains, no hearts (unless for food), just straight up meat on artificial scaffolds. Artificial meat.
puppiesarepoopers
I hope so
GadenKerensky
Kinda like in Planetbase; all your meat is grown in a lab. That way we can eat bacon without feeling guilty, and the Vegans can't complain.
LargePenguin
For real though, if everyone did switch to veganism and all animal farms were converted to vegetal farms, would the increase vegetables 1
LargePenguin
cause a skyrocket in animal population (such as deer) leading to overpopulation? 2
puppiesarepoopers
for one, it's unrealistic to create an entirely vegetarian world - and that's not what most advocates want. they just want humane practices.
puppiesarepoopers
as for the overpopulation issue, we would not breed as many farm animals thus their populations would eventually decline
Jhonny0darko
I agree as a meat eater. But #10. Making no an omelette is not baking.
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
More people need quiche in their lives.
Tom40
I understand reducing cholesterol, but how is eating a chicken's period in any way cruel to the chicken? The eggs we eat are unfertilized.
Jhonny0darko
I always asked the same about placentas
Tom40
Placentas are unfertilized?
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
The conditions most egg producing chickens live in are horrific.
Tom40
I would assume the same for any industrial scale production of meat/dairy/etc. High cost of low prices and so on.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Yep.
TheNASAUnicorn
I had a teacher that was vegan that would CONSTANTLY berate his student if he saw us eating a burger, wearing leather boots, etc. fuck that.
BillyRex
In my opinion it's okay to teach kids about the differences, but it has to stop after that. Anything else is borderline indoctrination.
BrushesofDoom
I had a teacher in 2nd grade who was appalled by anything made by adidas or Nike. So I ended up going to class looking like Garth from WW
minipancho94
i wish i had these kinds of teachers in school. i would have fucked with them so hard.
robthelob20
I'm not the type of person to go out of my way to be an asshole, but I would definitely bring burgers into that class regularly
TheNASAUnicorn
We did when he'd make the first move.... he controlled our grades and taught the junior and senior major classes, so we had to be tactful...
robthelob20
Haha nice, very true
MrChiPigg
Dairy is rape.
PabloTh3Ninja
Found the vegan.
OppaGangnamPyle
Lol.. I know you're just being funny. Awesome
ThePerfectCommentDoesntexi
There are so many people that make this argument for real.
puppiesarepoopers
I've never met a vegan irl who claim it's rape, just that most dairy cows do not have a pleasant life hooked up to machines and all
PabloTh3Ninja
I've met dozens that have told me I'm drinking rape juice when I buy milk, and they're not joking either.
puppiesarepoopers
dozens? in the real world? and not at some radical vegan group?
PabloTh3Ninja
Ok more like A dozen. But yes at my university. Usually at the cafeteria or when they decide to protest some event
JessicaRabbitWhoCollectsBadHabits
Met a really nice vegan who actually worked at the deli counter at my local grocery store.her being vegan did come up immediately though
puppiesarepoopers
often when it's brought up, it's not for preachy purposes it something as basic as, "here, try this food!" "no thanks..." "why not?!"
BeesechurgerProductions
Props to her for being willing to work a deli counter, though. Like, mad props
puppiesarepoopers
it's pretty tricky to balance ethics & reality when it comes to employment.
Liquidbullets
Right, the issue isnt their life style it's when they're one dimensional and their lifestyle is the only thing that defines them as a person
JessicaRabbitWhoCollectsBadHabits
I really love this. It can be applied to so many people in so many different ways though unfortunately
Liquidbullets
absolutely. Another good example is the stereotype pot culture.
grimmia
For real though sub applesauce for eggs in cookie dough makes it safe to eat raw (no chance for salmonella) and moist af baked
Dslayer2000
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AltLeftAltRightWhatIsThisACheatCode
It's actually not safe for consumption because if the flower, not the eggs
toxcrusadr
As a meat eater: 1 regular egg + 1 flax egg makes a great healthy omelet.
SaintsWorth
Fun fact pasteurized eggs also eliminate the need for worry of food borne illness. And for moist cookies just under bake them a smidge
hockeyham
Found the vegan
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Or just use pasteurized eggs...
ImgurFairy
This^^^ for real. Eat all the cookie dough you want bitches!!! Store bought dough is perfectly safe to eat cuz this.
theromen111
Banana adds a good sweetness to it for diabetics without actual sugar
GoIIum
Except for the actual sugar in bananas that makes them sweet of cause.
AnaCadabra88
Bananas have sugar still, or are you specifying sucrose vs fructose?
theromen111
Specifying
shinyRK9
to be fair, i've eaten about 100 lbs of cookie dough in my life and never once got salmonella
aegis27
It's only a risk in the US, as the way they wash their eggs causes the risk of salmonella
lagomorpha
It helps if the eggs are pasteurized. That kills a lot of microbial things, and it's what makes things like eggnog safe to drink.
SarcasticHanSolo
letmenumberthatforyou
Maybe
was @shinyRK9.
shinyRK9
i don't need your judgement
WallyBro
Maybe if you do it all at once, but it's a challenge and sacrifice I'm willing to make in the name of science
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Disregarding these rubes, meat consumption is quite bad for the environment. its a middle man that massively reduces efficiency.
minipancho94
i mean its just being responsible to move to better alternatives as they become available. as substitutes get better, theyll be more popular
delaneige
Apparently even the Governator suggested going meatless for the environment a couple of days a week. Good on him.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Thats nice.
Zahnradfee
This is what most people forget. I also wouldn't like fanatic preaching vegans, but I do know a lot of very nice, great people who happen to
Zahnradfee
be vegans and I admire them. I live mostly vegetarian and I wish I could forgo dairy products, but I am not ready yet. Still, veganism is >
Zahnradfee
an important step to reduce greenhouse emissions. That's why I hate all those who rant against vegans, because this is not only about >
Zahnradfee
lifestyle - this is about the entire planet and I hate it that some people mess it up for all of us with their excessive meat consumption.
puppiesarepoopers
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TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Personally, I intend to grow my own meat/eggs/dairy before long. Offset it with an acre or so of bamboo to suck down the carbon.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Yep. Especially beef. All meat is pretty bad but beef is by far the worst.
previoustopcomment
Transporting fresh produce thousands of miles is also bad for the environment, meat can be produced almost anywhere via shit we can't eat
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Not to mention absolutely ludicrous amounts of water, and greenhouse gases produced.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Yes and it costs ten times the resources to produce and ship. Over 50% of all agricultural land is devoted to pasture or feed.
previoustopcomment
Not when you consider that meat can be harvested at any time of year, and is produced closer than out of season crops.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
There are flaws that need remedying. Meat still provides a tiny fraction of the calories for twice the land.
previoustopcomment
except that it provides indefinite storage of calories for the cost of vegetation we can't eat. food rots and storage is energy intensive
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
unnecessary one. Are there issues with current farming practices? Yes. They pale in comparison the the amount of water and land needed
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Its basic ecology, for every extra level between you and primary producers (crops) 90% of the energy is lost. Meat is a middle man. An
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
to produce even a fraction of the food with most meat.
previoustopcomment
unless you want everyone eating fermented and preserve food, meat is necessary when local produce is out of season.
previoustopcomment
if its not local than it's just as bad because it has to be transported so far
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
Incorrect. Factory farming is bad for the environment. Vegetable farming is bad for the environment. Grass fed cattle are beneficial. And if
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
3) I didn't mean to start that with "incorrect". I meant " sort of". My fingers have a mind of their own OH GOD MY BUTTHOLE *static*
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
2) you want more people eating veggies, you should get behind grass fed beef because it's too pricey for most to eat often.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Do you not understand basic ecology?
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
I'm a professional horticulturist - so probably a fuckton better than you do. :)
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
I don't think I believe you. You understand the general rule of 10%?
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Or the fact that 50+% of all agricultural land is devoted to pasture or feed?