Apr 21, 2017 9:25 PM
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partTimeCrazy
Man, floppy disks were massive!
iAlwaysUpvotePuppers
You used cement to play music?
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renodegeneric
Yeah probably, but turn tables can either spin in reverse, or you can just spin it back yourself.
walkertalker0000
Shouldn't the Charleston be playing in the background?
Nuttburger
I'd like to listen to the first cast, what would a record sound like if the grooves were actually the walls
SoloPhoenix
Terrible?
Clovenhoof
This article was written in 2006 http://web.archive.org/web/20080804170619re_/gadgets.qj.net/How-to-Pirate-a-Vinyl-Record/pg/49/aid/39381
hedcase
Does it still play in the VHS player OK?
shwiggityshwoot
But won't the sounds be backwards?!
baconsmellsreallygood
No the blue one is the negative copy if the orginal record. The ge then pours red mold in that makes it a clone of the original
ITellYouWhenYoureRight
I'll be someone could do this really fast, like, in record time.
Pre2k
So that how you burn music back in the days
ArchQuantum
Easier to do that then with an Edison cylinder
AdamGenesis
I tried this on a music CD and it didn't work!
skipweasel
Actually, we just used cassettes.
HT72PES
Huh, MD now.
imadeulook
Record the radio...I'm with you
valen00
There was a time before cassettes mate
8hourgamer
http://mechanicalmusicrestoration.com/resources/CelRoll5.jpg
Very true, but I doubt many wax cylinders were pirated.
HamburgersExclamationPointTardigradeIsAlreadyTaken
I think this is more expensive than buying the damn LP!
Wrecklesswisdom
Hahahaha. Nope. Some of the LPs I would like to have are well over 200
Voydom
They are that pricy now ... back then ? Probably not. And the copy would have worse sound quality, so it's not good for collectors either.
DreadPierateRoberts
Depends are you selling the copies
tinnerz58
To make one? Probably, to make 20? Nah, this would be cheaper, but not as good quality obviously
tizoizo
This is an issue with digital copyright too. Pirated hard copies in this way are a degraded copy and every copy of a copy gets worse 1/
So the copy won't necessarily replace the purchase of an original because afficionados will still but a good quality original so the 2/
Market harm of physical copies end up being less than the market harm of digital copies which produce perfect copies.
Clockworkdancerobot
Yeah, but you end up spending a lot of marinara sauce.
Talmorean
IT'S A RECORD! BIBBIDY BOBBIDY!
wadenelson1
I always ended up with pepperoni caught on the needle.
DataMonkeyNicki
This comment tastes like marinara sauce.
rocketman89
I betcha there's a hipster somewhere using a record player to sauce his home-made vegan pizzas.
EClaire1073
Except for the vegan part (fuck that shit), that's not a bad idea...
shankelstoff
I too hate things for no reason.
wheresthetoaster
And if there wasn't, there is now.
WorkerLurker
Puttanesca sauce
XenophiliusLovegood
PrivateIsotope
Who actually ever did this?
PoppinLochNessHopster
Looks like it would sound like ass
xcelita
In Russia they use old X-Ray sheets to copy illegal western records.
TheBentPianist
Was going to say Russia. What film/doco explored this boot legging?
How The Beatles Rocked The Kremlin it was called.
SherMattLockSmith
I actually was going to make a startup doing this, some local rave DJs showed interest in it. Being able to play their most prized 1/2
2/2 recordings, and being able to "scratch" on them, without presenting harm to the original, which would also be safe from theft.
CKOD
Not a bad idea, Vacuum chamber to degass resin/silicone and pressure chamber during curing would probably get great results
Ive used molding silicone from smooth-on that would capture the text on a laser-printed label.
Not sure, but I imagine most of them would be dead by now. It was back in 60ties and 70ties, 20 something year old would be 70-80 years now.
I would think I'd this was a thing in the US, I would have come across one.
I have never seen it either, but I was born in the cassettes time period. Looks like a science project for school, but who knows.
But you've seen records at people's houses and at Goodwill, right? You'd think you'd see these
It's not a product for collectors (I imagine they want originals) and god knows how long these last, so hard to say.
Pirates mostly. Like the guys who sold cheap DVD burns on the streets a decade back. Was cheaper when you made a lot of copies.
But were there ever bootleg vinyl salesmen out on the streets?
HavUSeenMyBaseball
Nah they had wooden legs
Was before my time..But likely at swap meets, flea markets, other venues in the 60's and 70's.
But at swap meets, the records were probably cheap anyway. This looks more like overseas pirating.
THExPILLOx
It kinda looks like they are just copying it so they don't ruin the original. But idk, not a ton of context here lol
sharpasabanana
Soviets did durning the start of the cold war. Rock like the Beatles were banned and this was a way to pirate and distribute illegal music
That's what I was thinking. This would only make sense overseas.
Rifneno
Obligatory
SpaceSphere
Except they used xrays and a wax cutter https://www.fastcodesign.com/3032206/how-soviet-hipsters-saved-rock-n-roll-with-x-ray-records
JokeDudeR
Fascinating
Did not know that
A more detailed article on the commercial versions https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/04/forgotten-audio-formats-flexi-disc/
partTimeCrazy
Man, floppy disks were massive!
iAlwaysUpvotePuppers
You used cement to play music?
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renodegeneric
Yeah probably, but turn tables can either spin in reverse, or you can just spin it back yourself.
walkertalker0000
Shouldn't the Charleston be playing in the background?
Nuttburger
I'd like to listen to the first cast, what would a record sound like if the grooves were actually the walls
SoloPhoenix
Terrible?
Clovenhoof
This article was written in 2006 http://web.archive.org/web/20080804170619re_/gadgets.qj.net/How-to-Pirate-a-Vinyl-Record/pg/49/aid/39381
hedcase
Does it still play in the VHS player OK?
shwiggityshwoot
But won't the sounds be backwards?!
baconsmellsreallygood
No the blue one is the negative copy if the orginal record. The ge then pours red mold in that makes it a clone of the original
ITellYouWhenYoureRight
I'll be someone could do this really fast, like, in record time.
Pre2k
So that how you burn music back in the days
ArchQuantum
Easier to do that then with an Edison cylinder
AdamGenesis
I tried this on a music CD and it didn't work!
skipweasel
Actually, we just used cassettes.
HT72PES
Huh, MD now.
imadeulook
Record the radio...I'm with you
valen00
There was a time before cassettes mate
8hourgamer
http://mechanicalmusicrestoration.com/resources/CelRoll5.jpg
skipweasel
Very true, but I doubt many wax cylinders were pirated.
HamburgersExclamationPointTardigradeIsAlreadyTaken
I think this is more expensive than buying the damn LP!
Wrecklesswisdom
Hahahaha. Nope. Some of the LPs I would like to have are well over 200
Voydom
They are that pricy now ... back then ? Probably not. And the copy would have worse sound quality, so it's not good for collectors either.
DreadPierateRoberts
Depends are you selling the copies
tinnerz58
To make one? Probably, to make 20? Nah, this would be cheaper, but not as good quality obviously
tizoizo
This is an issue with digital copyright too. Pirated hard copies in this way are a degraded copy and every copy of a copy gets worse 1/
tizoizo
So the copy won't necessarily replace the purchase of an original because afficionados will still but a good quality original so the 2/
tizoizo
Market harm of physical copies end up being less than the market harm of digital copies which produce perfect copies.
tizoizo
Clockworkdancerobot
Yeah, but you end up spending a lot of marinara sauce.
Talmorean
IT'S A RECORD! BIBBIDY BOBBIDY!
wadenelson1
I always ended up with pepperoni caught on the needle.
DataMonkeyNicki
This comment tastes like marinara sauce.
rocketman89
I betcha there's a hipster somewhere using a record player to sauce his home-made vegan pizzas.
EClaire1073
Except for the vegan part (fuck that shit), that's not a bad idea...
shankelstoff
I too hate things for no reason.
wheresthetoaster
And if there wasn't, there is now.
WorkerLurker
Puttanesca sauce
XenophiliusLovegood
PrivateIsotope
Who actually ever did this?
PoppinLochNessHopster
Looks like it would sound like ass
xcelita
In Russia they use old X-Ray sheets to copy illegal western records.
TheBentPianist
Was going to say Russia. What film/doco explored this boot legging?
TheBentPianist
How The Beatles Rocked The Kremlin it was called.
SherMattLockSmith
I actually was going to make a startup doing this, some local rave DJs showed interest in it. Being able to play their most prized 1/2
SherMattLockSmith
2/2 recordings, and being able to "scratch" on them, without presenting harm to the original, which would also be safe from theft.
CKOD
Not a bad idea, Vacuum chamber to degass resin/silicone and pressure chamber during curing would probably get great results
CKOD
Ive used molding silicone from smooth-on that would capture the text on a laser-printed label.
Voydom
Not sure, but I imagine most of them would be dead by now. It was back in 60ties and 70ties, 20 something year old would be 70-80 years now.
PrivateIsotope
I would think I'd this was a thing in the US, I would have come across one.
Voydom
I have never seen it either, but I was born in the cassettes time period. Looks like a science project for school, but who knows.
PrivateIsotope
But you've seen records at people's houses and at Goodwill, right? You'd think you'd see these
Voydom
It's not a product for collectors (I imagine they want originals) and god knows how long these last, so hard to say.
Clockworkdancerobot
Pirates mostly. Like the guys who sold cheap DVD burns on the streets a decade back. Was cheaper when you made a lot of copies.
PrivateIsotope
But were there ever bootleg vinyl salesmen out on the streets?
HavUSeenMyBaseball
Nah they had wooden legs
Clockworkdancerobot
Was before my time..But likely at swap meets, flea markets, other venues in the 60's and 70's.
PrivateIsotope
But at swap meets, the records were probably cheap anyway. This looks more like overseas pirating.
THExPILLOx
It kinda looks like they are just copying it so they don't ruin the original. But idk, not a ton of context here lol
sharpasabanana
Soviets did durning the start of the cold war. Rock like the Beatles were banned and this was a way to pirate and distribute illegal music
PrivateIsotope
That's what I was thinking. This would only make sense overseas.
Rifneno
Obligatory
SpaceSphere
Except they used xrays and a wax cutter https://www.fastcodesign.com/3032206/how-soviet-hipsters-saved-rock-n-roll-with-x-ray-records
JokeDudeR
Fascinating
sharpasabanana
Did not know that
SpaceSphere
A more detailed article on the commercial versions https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/04/forgotten-audio-formats-flexi-disc/