That's because shag carpeting and a casting couch (that looks to also have shag carpeting, freaky) makes you a creepy guy. Faux wood flooring and a bed in the back of your van that will fit barely one dwarf only is the way to go.
There are plenty of options for that, depending on what, exactly, you want from it. Composting toilets, when maintained, are compact, effective, and basically odor free. Showers will be more dependent on the height of the van, but with standing room, you could build a wet bathroom. Basically it's a larger shower stall with a toilet and sink inside.
Speaking as someone having lived in a van for 3 years... Laveo toilets are... well.. the shit! And there are indoor showers that you can hook to the van ceiling during use that barely require any space. Loving in a van has it's downsides obviously, but if you live somewhere it doesn't freeze or snow all that often it's (and are youngish) it's a great way to save some cash by not paying rent. Mind you it sucks balls that something like that might be necessary to build equity, but it def works.
It shockingly common to see these kinda modified vans in Sydney. I'd go exercise around some parks at night and see the same vans parked there. Often have pull out sections for little camper gas stoves, or you can see the light inside from them lying on bed watching stuff on a phone or tablet.
My uncle was a creepy van guy, and let me tell you he was in fact a creepy guy who cheated on his wife a lot. but i think its the shag carpetting in the vans that made it worse.
Probably closer to 25k + the cost of the van. Unless you're hiring a professional to do the work for you. It shouldn't cost 100k+ to make 1/5th the size of a bedroom hospitable
Lived in a sprinter van for over 3 years. Bought it used at auction (Amazon delivery van in surprisingly good shape) for 30k, put about 40k in to it for all the bells and whistles (solar, kitchen, toilet etc), lots of work myself, some outsourced. Was all the money I had after selling basically all i owned, BUT... considering the rents in San Diego it broke even not having to pay rent after a little over 2 years. Zero regrets, and I would recommend the same to anyone, even if it takes a loan.
Sure, but then you are in a trailer park with other monthly costs, and you usually don't own the ground you are on. With the van I didn't pay rent for 3 years, in which it morenthan paid for itself. If I were to sell it now it would be pure profit, so to speak.
Serious question, where did you park it? Because a lot of places that used to be accessible, like 14 hour walmarts ect... no longer allow what they consider to be camping, or did yiu move it around a lot?
I moved around a lot, and did a lot of "stealth" camping. There are still some major parking lots with restrooms in my city where the cops don't care, but I didn't like those too much. I'd usually spend my days off at the beach or a park, and then choose a quiet residential street and put my window covers in around 10pm or so. Nobody ever noticed or cared. You do need a toilet in the van though for doing that.
Thank you for your response! Ive seen a lot of people doing the "stealth camping" but never really knew how it would be sustainable for any length of time. Moving around a lot makes sense so youre never in an area long enough to be suspicious amd only really at night on residential streets
Probably had tools and stuff too, like some sort of aristocrat. Just rubbing it in everyone's face like "Oh look at me, I'm a fancy lad and I've got a Phillips head screwdriver".
Ah yes, the 'ol "cheap can conversion". Where you just need a 30k van, 10k for materials and 20k in tools to complete it. Brought to you by Norm Abraham's grandson, no doubt...
For what is pictured you don’t need nearly that much. That’s a dresser and a bed, no water or anything
Also, why are you all forgetting this would replace the cost of rent? Even if you finance it for $800/month it’s less than rent
At that rate I’d just get a mini can, rip the sears out, and throw a mattress in there. Boom. At a planet fitness membership for access to showers and bobs your uncle
And what a bargain. $800/month for no water, toilet, shower, ability to cook, and requiring you to burn gasoline for power and heat. All in a living space that's 1/4 the size of a studio apartment.
There's a reason 99% of the "van life" people have independent wealth. Because that gets them a cushy, comfortable experience with a lot of amenities and they actually get to travel with it.
You're trying to glamorize spending $800/month to be homeless.
Was reading about what being homeless is like irl. Oh man...it is an absolute nightmare. Every minute of everyday. I'll never understand why Americans seem to not give a shit about actual affordable housing. I have an actual answer and NOBODY cares.
It's not that nobody cares, it's that we have to keep electing the lesser of two evils and we're too entrenched in "this is how it's always been" to have a unified effort to change things. So we keep getting fucked and have to convince ourselves it'd be worse if we had voted for the other guy.
Affordable housing is a spiraling problem all over the industrialized world. The difference is most other countries will at least address the homelessness part of the problem.
I was homeless for a few months last year. Lived out of a small car. American. I very much give a shit about actual affordable housing. I'm a poor mf working full time, trying to keep my bills paid, and take care of my 3-5 mental illnesses. Not much I can do about the housing situation except vote, which I did. So what's your solution
No it's not. We already have more houses than families to live in them. The answer is prohibit people and businesses from owning too many properties. Businesses should be banned from owning single family houses and be forced to sell off all they have or risk having them claimed and sold by the state via eminant domain or something (Not sure if states have tat power or just the Fed). You have to crash the housing market to fix what's been done to it, but we already have enough supply.
As I said before, and you clearly didn't read, we already have enough homes. The issue is that houses do not have set prices. People bid on them. Which means rich people bid way higher than the homes should be worth. And when they go to sell those homes they sell them for more than what they paid for them. And nobody's making a lot of money right now so nobody can afford to buy a house even if there's a lot of them on the market. The solution is regulation.
Nope. Rent control hasn't worked to fix long term supply. No matter how much hand waving an authoritarian bootlicking you do the economics remain fundamentally unchanged. Supply.
W15hvern
That's because shag carpeting and a casting couch (that looks to also have shag carpeting, freaky) makes you a creepy guy. Faux wood flooring and a bed in the back of your van that will fit barely one dwarf only is the way to go.
robingal1
Lighting is better. I miss those heavy doors, though
jtthemediocre
No low ballers. I know what I have.
FlaskandStein
12 out of 10, would jump in if asked
BottleOpener1
Imalwaysready
Waterfront property? In this economy!?
unluckyandbored
Yeah, like anyone can afford a van in this economy.
BenderRodriguz1010
That'll be 300,000$
Uptoo11ven
Starter?
HowlingRollercoaster2
I lived in a van down by the river before it was cool
WhattaMattahYou
AvsFreak
MacTually
Huh. Guess the creepy guys were just living in 2026 the whole time.
welluhwhatdoyouwantmetosay
And then someone steals your home.
LuciusNeedful
Starter? I wish.
yamsonyamsonyams
AI slop
linkdude212
I have legit thought about buying a camper because it is what I can afford.
NussKnuspermix
Sorry but both of them look awesome to me.
thedill2000
You see, the difference is the shag. Shagging in a van
now is still 1970s
SternLecturePlumbing
I had a tiny home before people made money off of them through social media. Damn
Direkt4
Uhh, that bed looks a little short. I'm not 4 years old.
thekeyofe
duktayp
I'm totally buying one of these as soon as they figure the bathroom thing out
LegsAreOverrated
Absorbing fluids is what shag carpets are best at.
IlluminaBlade
It used to be hovering around 24 hour stores but those dried up.
JoeMalmsteen
There are plenty of options for that, depending on what, exactly, you want from it. Composting toilets, when maintained, are compact, effective, and basically odor free. Showers will be more dependent on the height of the van, but with standing room, you could build a wet bathroom. Basically it's a larger shower stall with a toilet and sink inside.
qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyujmkiol
Speaking as someone having lived in a van for 3 years... Laveo toilets are... well.. the shit! And there are indoor showers that you can hook to the van ceiling during use that barely require any space. Loving in a van has it's downsides obviously, but if you live somewhere it doesn't freeze or snow all that often it's (and are youngish) it's a great way to save some cash by not paying rent. Mind you it sucks balls that something like that might be necessary to build equity, but it def works.
qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyujmkiol
I meant to write *living in a van. But *loving... well... also makes sense.
AutobotPrincess
what, you think you're too good for a piss-pot? the entitlement of people these days, smh.
TheHolyFatman
"You, sir, look like the piss boy!"
ShutUpMeh
Yeah, there's this thing called open the door up. Boom: bathroom
ModsSometimesHeedMyScamWarnings
It shockingly common to see these kinda modified vans in Sydney. I'd go exercise around some parks at night and see the same vans parked there. Often have pull out sections for little camper gas stoves, or you can see the light inside from them lying on bed watching stuff on a phone or tablet.
SerenaLily
My uncle was a creepy van guy, and let me tell you he was in fact a creepy guy who cheated on his wife a lot. but i think its the shag carpetting in the vans that made it worse.
ingridwebb88
I recently put the pieces together and same. Ewwwwww
BarnegatLight
Shag carpet is in fact excellent and durable insulation without a lot of weight.
Lizzzardwizard
Well, they are called shag carpets. What did you expect?
ElbowDeepInUserSub
Yeah, baby!
mangoinparis
What I’m hearing is you can live in a van AND have a wife.
BeaverOnFire
Snooj
And several girlfriends.
WhattaMattahYou
What about Shag Carpeting on the OUTSIDE of a van?

WarlockSniper
Loid and Harry?!
WhattaMattahYou
Lloyd and Harry, yes
jethroismaxbaer5772
It's a shaggin' wagon.
TheShoggothOfMosquitoCreek
Throw some chia seeds at that and wait about a week.
WhattaMattahYou
you know it costs zero dollars to not be an asshole, right?
Tezerah1
ZackWester
2030 hold it that looks like some quality backpacks and tools. The best we can do today is the Backpack we wore to school 20 ish years ago.
Tezerah1
Purchased with a First Home Buyers mortgage loan through HUD no doubt
ping0s
Honestly, if it wasnt for my dogs i'd probably live out of a car. I want them to have a yard and running room tho.
rolliefingers
Yeah starter home if you've got 100k+
gardenias
Don't buy a new van. Always buy used. And stay away from the Sprinters. They're not worth what they're priced at.
Ivalicenyan
Probably closer to 25k + the cost of the van. Unless you're hiring a professional to do the work for you. It shouldn't cost 100k+ to make 1/5th the size of a bedroom hospitable
huffnpuff72
Starter home is the top picture as well. One built in the 70s might be affordable, but it'll be a fixer upper.
Marikhen
You'd only need $500k if you raised professional domestic long-hair cats and your wife was an executive snail groomer.
rolliefingers
I mean professional cats of ANY kind are pretty hard to raise
qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyujmkiol
Lived in a sprinter van for over 3 years. Bought it used at auction (Amazon delivery van in surprisingly good shape) for 30k, put about 40k in to it for all the bells and whistles (solar, kitchen, toilet etc), lots of work myself, some outsourced. Was all the money I had after selling basically all i owned, BUT... considering the rents in San Diego it broke even not having to pay rent after a little over 2 years. Zero regrets, and I would recommend the same to anyone, even if it takes a loan.
pretengineer
A brand new trailer park modular house is like $40,000 in my area
qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyujmkiol
Sure, but then you are in a trailer park with other monthly costs, and you usually don't own the ground you are on. With the van I didn't pay rent for 3 years, in which it morenthan paid for itself. If I were to sell it now it would be pure profit, so to speak.
pretengineer
If you made it work even after gasoline costs and such I commend you, it's certainly tough out there
5WattBulb
Serious question, where did you park it? Because a lot of places that used to be accessible, like 14 hour walmarts ect... no longer allow what they consider to be camping, or did yiu move it around a lot?
qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyujmkiol
I moved around a lot, and did a lot of "stealth" camping. There are still some major parking lots with restrooms in my city where the cops don't care, but I didn't like those too much. I'd usually spend my days off at the beach or a park, and then choose a quiet residential street and put my window covers in around 10pm or so. Nobody ever noticed or cared. You do need a toilet in the van though for doing that.
5WattBulb
Thank you for your response! Ive seen a lot of people doing the "stealth camping" but never really knew how it would be sustainable for any length of time. Moving around a lot makes sense so youre never in an area long enough to be suspicious amd only really at night on residential streets
JaceTiger
I saw one video on YouTube several years ago where they did a van home for like $10k by getting a used van and building most of the stuff themselves.
Pretty sure it was made pre-covid, but still
GhostingMyself
Look at this guy with 10k
Direkt4
A 10k car loan is well within reason.
aerodynamit3
And TIME to build it all themselves.
Direkt4
Starter home, right? I mean, you should be what, 22 with no kids? Employed...? Yeah you have time
tzahtman
Probably had tools and stuff too, like some sort of aristocrat. Just rubbing it in everyone's face like "Oh look at me, I'm a fancy lad and I've got a Phillips head screwdriver".
DerpMeister
But still...to have your own Philips head screwdriver. One can only dream.
TheN8
Ah yes, the 'ol "cheap can conversion". Where you just need a 30k van, 10k for materials and 20k in tools to complete it. Brought to you by Norm Abraham's grandson, no doubt...
yamsonyamsonyams
For what is pictured you don’t need nearly that much. That’s a dresser and a bed, no water or anything
Also, why are you all forgetting this would replace the cost of rent? Even if you finance it for $800/month it’s less than rent
At that rate I’d just get a mini can, rip the sears out, and throw a mattress in there. Boom. At a planet fitness membership for access to showers and bobs your uncle
Badprenup
And what a bargain. $800/month for no water, toilet, shower, ability to cook, and requiring you to burn gasoline for power and heat. All in a living space that's 1/4 the size of a studio apartment.
There's a reason 99% of the "van life" people have independent wealth. Because that gets them a cushy, comfortable experience with a lot of amenities and they actually get to travel with it.
You're trying to glamorize spending $800/month to be homeless.
yamsonyamsonyams
Also anywhere you live you are using and paying for energy for heat - it’s how heat works
yamsonyamsonyams
I mean $800/month was a way high overestimate, wild probably be more like 300, $500 including insurance / taxes at most
You can get stand alone gas coolers very easily
Yes bathrooms are not free - that’s what $120/year for planet fitness gets you
And yeah I don’t want to live in a van, but I’d take that over the street
hyptosis
And enough money you can not work for a month or two while you do it.
yamsonyamsonyams
You can work on it after work
prosper020
And a location to keep and work on said van.
southflhitnrun
Make sure it is down by the river
yamsonyamsonyams
The AI river
hitdog42
You'll be doing a lot of living in a van down by the river when living in a VAN down by the RIVER
shutupthisisreal
certainly not where I shot my baby?
LazerSpacePirate
Eatin' muh government cheeeese
gearsmith
I drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry.
theworldcouldbeflat
In this economy best you can get is near a drainage ditch.
randomwalrus
As long as the water is flowing.
rbdj
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdmHHoI9beM
dmex
It's been over a year for me in bg3 but... down down down by the river
daychilde
This kills the music. If the river has a levee anyway
CommunCreator
‘Drove my Ford Econoline to the levee’ just doesn’t feel the same.
discostewsm
Not down by the bay?
RadioFloyd
Sittin’ on the dock
laughinginpublic
Where the watermelons grow?
Onlyhereforthelaughs
Back to my hoooome...
Nadderpotater
I dare not go….
HighFlyKai
Living la vida loca!!!
semperknight
Was reading about what being homeless is like irl. Oh man...it is an absolute nightmare. Every minute of everyday. I'll never understand why Americans seem to not give a shit about actual affordable housing. I have an actual answer and NOBODY cares.
gardenias
It's not that nobody cares, it's that we have to keep electing the lesser of two evils and we're too entrenched in "this is how it's always been" to have a unified effort to change things. So we keep getting fucked and have to convince ourselves it'd be worse if we had voted for the other guy.
EroticZombiePants
Affordable housing is a spiraling problem all over the industrialized world. The difference is most other countries will at least address the homelessness part of the problem.
redpilljunkie
I was homeless for a few months last year. Lived out of a small car. American. I very much give a shit about actual affordable housing. I'm a poor mf working full time, trying to keep my bills paid, and take care of my 3-5 mental illnesses. Not much I can do about the housing situation except vote, which I did. So what's your solution
FrozenCoast
drinkthederpentine
The actual answer is increase supply
gardenias
No it's not. We already have more houses than families to live in them. The answer is prohibit people and businesses from owning too many properties. Businesses should be banned from owning single family houses and be forced to sell off all they have or risk having them claimed and sold by the state via eminant domain or something (Not sure if states have tat power or just the Fed). You have to crash the housing market to fix what's been done to it, but we already have enough supply.
drinkthederpentine
Nope. Supply drives down price. It's a fundamental law of economics
gardenias
As I said before, and you clearly didn't read, we already have enough homes. The issue is that houses do not have set prices. People bid on them. Which means rich people bid way higher than the homes should be worth. And when they go to sell those homes they sell them for more than what they paid for them. And nobody's making a lot of money right now so nobody can afford to buy a house even if there's a lot of them on the market. The solution is regulation.
drinkthederpentine
Nope. Rent control hasn't worked to fix long term supply. No matter how much hand waving an authoritarian bootlicking you do the economics remain fundamentally unchanged. Supply.