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Storytime!
So my (half, diff. mom) brother recently got back from China after teaching there for a year, and needed a place to stay while he figured things out. My mom actually paid for his flight back since Covid had driven up the prices exponentially (econ = 6k) and is letting him live at their house rent free. Dad is currently in Arizona so she is living alone with him as of current. (He did self-isolate for 2 weeks prior to this story)
My brother still has not told me this story but told my aunt. Allegedly what happened is he was sending business advice to his now ex-gf while he was in China. She established a business with a few of her friends, but he felt since he contributed with said advice, he was entitled to a cut of some sort, either through a buy-in or some sort of partnership. So they went to a restaurant with some of her business partners / friends and on the way, he tried to convince the other girls that he wanted in to some degree. They told him no and he got really pissed off.
So what ended up happening is they get to the restaurant, and because my brother is so pissed, while his then GF is in the washroom, decides to hit on the waitress, with the other people at the table...
So friends end up telling his ex, and they break up on the ride back to my Mom’s house.
So IN HIS INFINITE WISDOM of being told to fuck off basically, he steals my car (which is parked for the summer, no insurance and tires are low/flat, he was also told this) and follows her around town, then comes back after an hour, then keeps my keys in his room, intending to drive it again.
My mom checks the security cameras every night and noticed it leaving the garage, and called me crying and apologizing for his actions, stating it was her fault for not hiding the keys etc. Told her it’s not her issue, but his...
Now I still owe about 20k on that car, if he would have crashed it, I would have been royally screwed... There’s a bunch of other things that could have happened if he was caught but yeah.
I have not spoken to him since early August and I honestly don’t intend to until he comes clean as to why he did what he did... He’s a fully grown man and should know better, and should care a little more for other people’s things.
Tl;dr: Brother stole car to chase after his ex after he was being a twat, car had no insurance and could have been a great financial loss for me if he crashed / got caught.
Fp edit: Figured I’d clear the air about some things; the car does have insurance on it, but only Fire and Theft as this is all that is needed for a car that is parked.
My brother is seeking therapy and did “apologize “ via voicemail and text, but in no way did he admit to why he did what he did, claiming it was “an emergency “ and won’t go further than that.
I might make a part 2 of his antics, since he also stole a very big client from my oldest brother’s company by undercutting him and basically said “you snooze you lose”
mcberg1337
This sounds like part one of true crime podcast
PoppaBigBear
Always keep your love/personal life separate from business. That's why I don't date coworkers, too much drama.
wrenchhead
ochermes28
This is exactly how narcissists deal with life.
BanadecCamberbootch
Yo, sounds like your brother is a fucking moron. Sorry, dude.
Canofminus
You have a loan on the car and no insurance? That’s really foolish.
TinyBatman
It has fire and theft since it’s parked, but not collision or comprehensive
TheCrankyCow
I don't know any lending firms that would let you get away without comprehensive. especially with 20k left.
stayingalive4life
Sadly, you may want to consider filing a police report and then letting your insurance and car loan holder know. 1/2
stayingalive4life
Just to cover your bases just in case. 2/2
rodrigosanchez
let the lien holder know there's no insurance. that's the proper advice.
sordatos
.... I mean just the take the keys back, he is still in town no?
TatanyaTanatia
I know this wasnt the point of the story, but why tf is the us allowing flights from china???
AsleepByDay
If you're taking about covid China is way way way safer than the USA.
TinyBatman
Canada, I think there's exceptions for citizens, but don't quote me on that!
mremaknu
Why not to confront his dumb ass outright? Also, why not actually disable the parked car in some way besides hiding the keys?
mremaknu
I'd be done the instant he nearly cost me 20 grand to stalk someone, not mad that he didn't "care a little more for other people's things."
gabewalker10
Report it stolen
rodrigosanchez
If you have a car with a lien on it an it's not insured, you're a dumbass. End of story.
TinyBatman
It has fire and theft since it’s parked, no comprehensive or collision.
rodrigosanchez
I am surprised your lien holder hasn't sent you a cure notice to clear the lien.
bdesign7
Wait. Why do you have a car that you owe 20k on parked with flat tires at your parents house? Military?
bdesign7
Never mind, I saw your answer to that further down the comments. My bad!
TinyBatman
Saul Goodman, have some points
IAmDeer
Definitely here you, but the system will not fix this. It may be a good idea for a group family session with the therapist.
marvijarvi
Seems like him coming home was a Wong decision..
TinyBatman
garfield529
I would maybe understand if he was 16-21, but at 33 he needs to have some focus. Sorry man.
EMTsaidwhat
Cool story bro. Call the police and get him arrested
WestOfEngland
What’s wrong with him? Everyone knows you gotta be done with your grand theft auto phase by 32.
Freemammograms
That's a paddlin'
Chobot
Yeah, no need for a therapy
peanutbutterandham
MrLeville
Sorry but I was distracted by the fact I see no reason to get a (at least) 20k loan on any car, especially one you're not using.
BossPat
Chefpnut
Tell him to give the keys to your mom. Scare him by saying that you’ll report the car stolen if it happens again.
reichstein
Why wait, he already stole it. It's not like he's a small child that doesn't know better.
TinyBatman
The keys are out of the house, no where near the car. Also yes the cops will be called if I as much see that car in the driveway
bigsalty
I would have just called the cop tbh
tavinjer
As someone who lived in China for 6 years, that place will fuck you up even if you’re the most stable person on the planet. I loved it but
tavinjer
it couldn’t be farther from Western culture, and being immersed in a setting like that does weird stuff to you mentally. Not in the least
tavinjer
bit excusing his behavior — just giving you maybe a little context.
ifounditunderthere
My step brother stole and crashed my car after basic...
Rabidbacon
Step bro help, I'm stuck.
DeathLemons
Why did you steal my car.... Step-brooother...
TinyBatman
ActionJohnnie
And Jody stole his girl.
Compound515
What colour of Camaro did you have?
TurtleVest
2010 SS, inferno orange. When 80% of your paycheck is going towards the loan and insurance you know you fucked up ?
themercwithamouthdeadpool
I'm thinking it was an black cherry 370Z. Most of the guys I went to basic with ended up getting those
HighlandViking
Sounds like your brother needs a good slapping in public.
silentwolf1999
TinyBatman
Oh god I can hear the song...
shakefu
Just call the cops on him
TinyBatman
Oh trust me, I was about too... I didn’t find out till after the car was returned.
shakefu
It’s still theft if he returned the car. Imagine me walking into a Lambo dealer and just bringing it back hours later, but keeping the keys
TinyBatman
I get you, he’s still my brother though. There was a betrayal of trust and I was/am mad, but I don’t want him down that path
shakefu
Conversation goes like this: “Get your shit together or I press charges, and you get your shit together in prison. And give me my keys.”
TinyBatman
We have the keys back already and they are well hidden in a different location. I told my parents if I see the car move I’m calling the cops
shakefu
You’re a lot more tolerant than me. Once people start involving me in their batshit insanity the kid gloves come off. But good on ya.
BultBult
I'd suggest talking to him now. The whole wait til they become reasonable seldom works.
TinyBatman
It’s not just myself that is having issues with him, he really needs to work out some things before we’re on speaking terms again
artofthehidden7
Cover your ass/make sure he can't take the car. He is a self-centered type of person.
CogYang
you'd have a pretty open and shut case against him were you to take it to a lawyer, but thats an unpleasant road. sounds like he needs help
Lostedge
Honestly doesnt sound so bad. He loaned a car from his brother, and didnt think what would happen if something went wrong.
OldSchool93
A lawyer won’t help if he’s broke. He could be held responsible for any damage to the car, but you can’t get blood from a stone.
NapoleonDynOmite
What a piece of shit. My bro used to be that way. But now we're best friends.
TinyBatman
Happy to hear that. I did really look up to the guy but he constantly does things like this... Glad things are good for you though!
TinyBatman
He is seeing a therapist, honestly this is just scratching the surface for how he’s treated everyone up till this point....
eur0joe
If you owe on the car you are probably required to have insurance, best to read the small print.
TinyBatman
It has fire and theft, if it’s parked that’s all that is required, but it is not drivable
cryptzicle
Doesn't sound like a brother. Sounds like an asshole you have blood relations too. Be safe friend.
CogYang
While being angry at him might be natural, it sounds like he needs some support from friends perhaps. But always take care of yourself first
TinyBatman
He’s treated me like this since I was born, I’ve tried to be the bigger person but at some point it’s better left to the professionals
NKato
At this point, your "brother" deserves to get tossed. 33 years old and he can't be an adult?
CogYang
For sure. You don't owe him the fairness and leniency you've given. But you are a better person for it. We'd all be better with more like u.
dhtv
Yeah but the trauma one suffers from trying and failing with a loved one is intense. Sometimes I feel it's easier if I just didn't care.
bigkingdingaling
Car parked for the summer, but you owe 20k on it? I'm confused at this situation
Solymyr808
Why do people buy cars they can’t afford?
HenryLongfellowIII
They wouldn't let me finance a car unless I carried comprehensive insurance on it, even if it was parked. Maybe your situation is different.
Motherpupper4
Came here to say the same thing. We switched auto insurance companies and my bank sent a notice that they were going to charge me 1200/yr /
Motherpupper4
To put their own coverage on my vehicle unless I supplied proof of new insurance (which we did have.)
TinyBatman
I have a summer coupe and then my winter Awd crossover, which is parked due to me driving the coupe for now.
LOLOLOOLOL
sounds about white
lurkmoarjono
@op, disconnect the starter relay or fuel pump fuse, let the car sit on a battery tender.
imgurianese
...or just the brakes.
AdrianMole
It doesn't make sense to borrow money to buy a 2nd car when you can also buy a car that you can use all year.
jj999124
What are the cars if you dont mind me asking?
TinyBatman
A 2018 Kona and a 2013 Scion FRS
bigkingdingaling
So both will last longer or just to have 2 vehicles?
Motherpupper4
It won’t last longer. Parking trucks/suv for ext periods of time can ruin them.
TinyBatman
Coupe is my project sports car, can’t drive it in 3ft of snow come winter lol
pbpyrojust
you owe 20k on a project car?
TinyBatman
Nope that one is paid off free and clear!