Nov 23, 2017 5:24 PM
HumanBeingOfPlanetEarth
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Coolgamerr7
So are we winning the fight?
zdriver7
v
The701
And people will still be defending it. "This is so much better than everywhere else in the world though. God we're so perfect here."
Unclecrawdad
The blood of the Numenor runs thin.
Yacobs21
Zero Punctuation!
314159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494
Monthly? Please, that shit will be hourly.
Thatguythatknowsbetter
Premium off peak rates from 6-10 pm starting at 49.99 pm
ShitpostsAndLotsOfThem
WhiteIce2112
#gofccyourself
BortymcBortfeis
Same as with EA. No matter how much you complain, it's the money that is talking. Pay, and your message is "I accept this"
DarklordDemise
We can just make a new Internet
Mayhempenguin
why do we fight, we are all gamers here
leftbanana
All of the Internet-dependent businesses have to join the fight or watch their online business evaporate.
Sordiy
We fight to be the best
eroso
People want to feel better about themselves. Putting others down helps doing it. Shallow fuckers we are
escudonbk
http://www.martialartsvideos.com/8194dsdmw34/uploads/2013/08/genkiFTW-700x352.jpg
BayazTheBenevolent
Because your taste in games is shit
what games exactly are shit?
LahmiaVampiress
Just the idea and intent behind this is sickening. Im ashamed to live in America more than I was before.
tzxAzrael
y'all realize this is wrong, right? graphics etc is all on the players' end, and most online games only use a trickle of internet speed.
Kjasi
If NN is revoked, and this DOES come true, I'm gonna focus on creating great offline games for everyone.
The appeal to online gaming is the social aspect and knowing that you're competing with real live people. You're going to have to create a
Game that still gives people that social experience while simultaneously playing by themselves. We're just going to have to go back to
Inviting friends over to couch co-op.
Cerebralbore101
Most online multiplayer games are way overrated anyway. The best games are single player.
exlurker42
I never liked MMO's or having to download everything anyway so there's one part dodged.
DoctorTenma
U actually right, forgot already how is it. Just playing stuff by myself and I have countless hours spent in some titles not many ppl remem
Ber. Dungeon siege. Almost failed high school cause of this . Aaahhhh vagrant story psx
dans66
We are talking about rules that started in 2015. Was 2014 bad and I missed something?
Icommentandpostmypets
Yes and no, its been an ongoing fight: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality_in_the_United_States#Timeline_of_significant_events
Dicksrichard
I was kind of wondering the same thing, I don't remember any issues. That said, I'm all for telling the cable companies to fuck off
I'm more worried about the feds running shit that a company. I can leave a company and go to something better. Feds own our ass
trubblebot
Actually, a huge number of people in this country only have one option for high-speed internet access, myself included.
Just because they haven't doesn't mean they wont. Eventually the same routine will get old and they'll have to find new "innovating" ways to
Maximize profits.
You know this will affect consoles, too right? Consoles don't just magically get internet access.
SuperSupply
But everyone will be peasants though, there’s no more or less of a peasant. So, join us, join us you peasants
pgarc90
Join the proletariat revolution
Mezinov
Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft would also have the buying power to make their "game subscriptions" "fast lane" on "cheap net".
Vezwyx
Exactly
Whatismypurpose
I don't see anywhere where @OP mentioned consoles becoming better than pcs..
Sm9yCg
They will get easy-to-purchase (not 1-click, as that is patented in the US by Amazon) internet access packages for only $$ per month.
youllneverguessmyusername
Yes, but consoles already pay for it. The price will just go up bc of "service charges".
Rifneno
(On a related note, I can't find a good gif of this for some reason?)
ImmaHacker
Are you Icelandic, or retarded? Someone doesn't understand how to Internet...
Chopsworth
... ... I'm stealing that.
ShiraZen
It's been proven that the "server fees" and costs ti maintain servers are so small in comparison to how many people pay, is basically 1/2
You giving them money for no reason. It does nothing but fill the higher ups pockets.
MrPredator
Peregrine2976
Your total misunderstanding of how internet works would be hilarious if it weren’t so very, very sad.
Consoles don't pay for it. What your paying for console now is services like exclusive games, servers, updates and patches, proper customer
Support etc etc. If they would than have to pay for network fast lanes the price your paying now like $50 a year for PSN would have to go up
Do pc gamers have to pay for xbox live or psn? I truly dont know. That was my point.
shinylukario1
No
undead4life
...no, plus we don't have to listen to all the kids in the in-game chat. Instead we have emotionally stunted teens and adults.
EClaire1073
Unless we're playing CSGO.
True, but just for a moment, think of how much worse it'd be if CS:GO was on consoles... *shudder*
No, we don't. That's just one of the many reasons why PC gaming is better than console gaming.
stormegedendarklordofall
I don't think so, but to get the required speeds would cost too much
Edutittam
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what consoles are paying for.
They pay for access to servers. Then they will have to pay an ISP for access to pay for those servers.
ThatGuyWhoRepliedToYourComment
What?
Right, but it still brings the master race down with it. I'm not ready for it ;__;
Gashunkification
Then fight!
[deleted]
AlaskanPipeliner1
You dont deserve 40+ downvotes. I got your upvote.
HavelTh3Rock
You can take half of his.
INeedAboutTreeFitty
Trying to guess the deleted comment, did someone say they would be okay with net neutrality dying if it killed pc master race?
Defure
Ok, what the fuck was said here?
UlfhednarSkol
What did he say?
implodingrat
.
woogigooie
alright
That's weird.
dankedaniel
GadenKerensky
My plan in Australia gives all XBOX services free data.
So what I'm hearing here is you have a shitty provider.
What do you mean, 'shitty'? It means playing online games doesn't contribute to our monthly cap. Our provider is a reasonable one.
It's means your provider already is violating net neutrality by treating one type of traffic differently than another.
It's a shitty thing to do, even if you think its working for you. Also, there's no such thing as a free lunch, you're paying for it; somehow
Right now I don't have a monthly cap. I can download and play as much as I want.
So can I, since XBOX Services don't contribute to it, and we don't pay as much for our plan since it's not the biggest and best.
SeaShrew
You guys have caps lol? Here in Norway You only pay for your speed
HodorFirstOfHisName
No one is gonna pay $65 extra to play games. The market will self-correct. If you don't like the product or the price, don't buy it
TargaryenLoyalist
So the solution is to not get internet at all?
Yes
I guess tossing out simple solutions is pretty easy if you don't care if they're actually feasible or not.
You can't live without internet?
OlympicLlama
My job, college, and most of my communication is done through the internet. Get off your high horse and realize that it's not that simple
This isn’t 1998, and I’m not just talking about leisure time. The internet is a work tool, in case you forgot. Everything is online.
Alanfredwardgrant
Does this affect Canada?
TheNoirAntagonist
Also any Americans would be laggy as hell and any server you joined would probably crash every 5 minutes because host or team halted access
Sourceisalie
Honestly most gaming servers will be sifted outside of the USA so we may get increased ping....
Muffyns
i feel since canada copies a good chunk of the states that if it passes in the states a bill will be made and passed in canada shortly after
Burfoot
I could see a die off of American online gaming due to costs, which would see less AAA multiplayer games being developed for current audienc
it does not. canada has already committed to keeping Net Neutrality intact... at least as far as canadian ISP's go that is.. can't really
help what US isp's decide to do, but it will only affect us indirectly.
It could. If ISP's throttle your gaming and bully steam into coughing up money to out steam in the fast lane steam would have to come up
With a service similiar to PSN and XLive to pay for it. And while they're at it they might aswell sell this service to all countries to
Not to mention any company you order things from or service you use that can't afford the overhead (Netflix crunchyroll) would freeze up1/2
At a higher rate because the isps would want their content more accessible and not something they already struggle to service.2/2/3
Not to mention that they could charge anything they want to install lines to an out of the way area and even if a new business started 3/4
In this day if they can't support a Web site or socialize their content over the Internet they are doomed to die imagine if the next 4/5
Tesla/apple/google/Microsoft couldn't make and sell their product because the isp literally strangled the money out of them 5/5
Coolgamerr7
So are we winning the fight?
zdriver7
The701
And people will still be defending it. "This is so much better than everywhere else in the world though. God we're so perfect here."
Unclecrawdad
The blood of the Numenor runs thin.
Yacobs21
Zero Punctuation!
314159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494
Monthly? Please, that shit will be hourly.
Thatguythatknowsbetter
Premium off peak rates from 6-10 pm starting at 49.99 pm
ShitpostsAndLotsOfThem
WhiteIce2112
#gofccyourself
BortymcBortfeis
Same as with EA. No matter how much you complain, it's the money that is talking. Pay, and your message is "I accept this"
DarklordDemise
We can just make a new Internet
Mayhempenguin
why do we fight, we are all gamers here
leftbanana
All of the Internet-dependent businesses have to join the fight or watch their online business evaporate.
Sordiy
We fight to be the best
eroso
People want to feel better about themselves. Putting others down helps doing it. Shallow fuckers we are
escudonbk
http://www.martialartsvideos.com/8194dsdmw34/uploads/2013/08/genkiFTW-700x352.jpg
BayazTheBenevolent
Because your taste in games is shit
Mayhempenguin
what games exactly are shit?
LahmiaVampiress
Just the idea and intent behind this is sickening. Im ashamed to live in America more than I was before.
tzxAzrael
y'all realize this is wrong, right? graphics etc is all on the players' end, and most online games only use a trickle of internet speed.
Kjasi
If NN is revoked, and this DOES come true, I'm gonna focus on creating great offline games for everyone.
HumanBeingOfPlanetEarth
The appeal to online gaming is the social aspect and knowing that you're competing with real live people. You're going to have to create a
HumanBeingOfPlanetEarth
Game that still gives people that social experience while simultaneously playing by themselves. We're just going to have to go back to
HumanBeingOfPlanetEarth
Inviting friends over to couch co-op.
Cerebralbore101
Most online multiplayer games are way overrated anyway. The best games are single player.
exlurker42
I never liked MMO's or having to download everything anyway so there's one part dodged.
DoctorTenma
U actually right, forgot already how is it. Just playing stuff by myself and I have countless hours spent in some titles not many ppl remem
DoctorTenma
Ber. Dungeon siege. Almost failed high school cause of this . Aaahhhh vagrant story psx
dans66
We are talking about rules that started in 2015. Was 2014 bad and I missed something?
Icommentandpostmypets
Yes and no, its been an ongoing fight: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality_in_the_United_States#Timeline_of_significant_events
Dicksrichard
I was kind of wondering the same thing, I don't remember any issues. That said, I'm all for telling the cable companies to fuck off
dans66
I'm more worried about the feds running shit that a company. I can leave a company and go to something better. Feds own our ass
trubblebot
Actually, a huge number of people in this country only have one option for high-speed internet access, myself included.
HumanBeingOfPlanetEarth
Just because they haven't doesn't mean they wont. Eventually the same routine will get old and they'll have to find new "innovating" ways to
HumanBeingOfPlanetEarth
Maximize profits.
Icommentandpostmypets
You know this will affect consoles, too right? Consoles don't just magically get internet access.
SuperSupply
But everyone will be peasants though, there’s no more or less of a peasant. So, join us, join us you peasants
pgarc90
Join the proletariat revolution
Mezinov
Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft would also have the buying power to make their "game subscriptions" "fast lane" on "cheap net".
Vezwyx
Exactly
Whatismypurpose
I don't see anywhere where @OP mentioned consoles becoming better than pcs..
Sm9yCg
They will get easy-to-purchase (not 1-click, as that is patented in the US by Amazon) internet access packages for only $$ per month.
youllneverguessmyusername
Yes, but consoles already pay for it. The price will just go up bc of "service charges".
Rifneno
ImmaHacker
Are you Icelandic, or retarded? Someone doesn't understand how to Internet...
Chopsworth
... ... I'm stealing that.
ShiraZen
It's been proven that the "server fees" and costs ti maintain servers are so small in comparison to how many people pay, is basically 1/2
ShiraZen
You giving them money for no reason. It does nothing but fill the higher ups pockets.
MrPredator
Peregrine2976
Your total misunderstanding of how internet works would be hilarious if it weren’t so very, very sad.
HumanBeingOfPlanetEarth
Consoles don't pay for it. What your paying for console now is services like exclusive games, servers, updates and patches, proper customer
HumanBeingOfPlanetEarth
Support etc etc. If they would than have to pay for network fast lanes the price your paying now like $50 a year for PSN would have to go up
youllneverguessmyusername
Do pc gamers have to pay for xbox live or psn? I truly dont know. That was my point.
shinylukario1
No
undead4life
...no, plus we don't have to listen to all the kids in the in-game chat. Instead we have emotionally stunted teens and adults.
EClaire1073
Unless we're playing CSGO.
undead4life
True, but just for a moment, think of how much worse it'd be if CS:GO was on consoles... *shudder*
EClaire1073
No, we don't. That's just one of the many reasons why PC gaming is better than console gaming.
stormegedendarklordofall
I don't think so, but to get the required speeds would cost too much
Edutittam
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what consoles are paying for.
Edutittam
They pay for access to servers. Then they will have to pay an ISP for access to pay for those servers.
ThatGuyWhoRepliedToYourComment
What?
Edutittam
Right, but it still brings the master race down with it. I'm not ready for it ;__;
Gashunkification
Then fight!
[deleted]
[deleted]
AlaskanPipeliner1
You dont deserve 40+ downvotes. I got your upvote.
HavelTh3Rock
You can take half of his.
INeedAboutTreeFitty
Trying to guess the deleted comment, did someone say they would be okay with net neutrality dying if it killed pc master race?
Defure
Ok, what the fuck was said here?
UlfhednarSkol
What did he say?
implodingrat
.
woogigooie
alright
Edutittam
That's weird.
dankedaniel
GadenKerensky
My plan in Australia gives all XBOX services free data.
undead4life
So what I'm hearing here is you have a shitty provider.
GadenKerensky
What do you mean, 'shitty'? It means playing online games doesn't contribute to our monthly cap. Our provider is a reasonable one.
undead4life
It's means your provider already is violating net neutrality by treating one type of traffic differently than another.
undead4life
It's a shitty thing to do, even if you think its working for you. Also, there's no such thing as a free lunch, you're paying for it; somehow
Icommentandpostmypets
Right now I don't have a monthly cap. I can download and play as much as I want.
GadenKerensky
So can I, since XBOX Services don't contribute to it, and we don't pay as much for our plan since it's not the biggest and best.
SeaShrew
You guys have caps lol? Here in Norway You only pay for your speed
HodorFirstOfHisName
No one is gonna pay $65 extra to play games. The market will self-correct. If you don't like the product or the price, don't buy it
TargaryenLoyalist
So the solution is to not get internet at all?
HodorFirstOfHisName
Yes
TargaryenLoyalist
I guess tossing out simple solutions is pretty easy if you don't care if they're actually feasible or not.
HodorFirstOfHisName
You can't live without internet?
OlympicLlama
My job, college, and most of my communication is done through the internet. Get off your high horse and realize that it's not that simple
TargaryenLoyalist
This isn’t 1998, and I’m not just talking about leisure time. The internet is a work tool, in case you forgot. Everything is online.
Alanfredwardgrant
Does this affect Canada?
TheNoirAntagonist
Also any Americans would be laggy as hell and any server you joined would probably crash every 5 minutes because host or team halted access
Sourceisalie
Honestly most gaming servers will be sifted outside of the USA so we may get increased ping....
Muffyns
i feel since canada copies a good chunk of the states that if it passes in the states a bill will be made and passed in canada shortly after
Burfoot
I could see a die off of American online gaming due to costs, which would see less AAA multiplayer games being developed for current audienc
tzxAzrael
it does not. canada has already committed to keeping Net Neutrality intact... at least as far as canadian ISP's go that is.. can't really
tzxAzrael
help what US isp's decide to do, but it will only affect us indirectly.
HumanBeingOfPlanetEarth
It could. If ISP's throttle your gaming and bully steam into coughing up money to out steam in the fast lane steam would have to come up
HumanBeingOfPlanetEarth
With a service similiar to PSN and XLive to pay for it. And while they're at it they might aswell sell this service to all countries to
HumanBeingOfPlanetEarth
Maximize profits.
TheNoirAntagonist
Not to mention any company you order things from or service you use that can't afford the overhead (Netflix crunchyroll) would freeze up1/2
TheNoirAntagonist
At a higher rate because the isps would want their content more accessible and not something they already struggle to service.2/2/3
TheNoirAntagonist
Not to mention that they could charge anything they want to install lines to an out of the way area and even if a new business started 3/4
TheNoirAntagonist
In this day if they can't support a Web site or socialize their content over the Internet they are doomed to die imagine if the next 4/5
TheNoirAntagonist
Tesla/apple/google/Microsoft couldn't make and sell their product because the isp literally strangled the money out of them 5/5