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This Karen
We deal with this a lot in Vegas
Businesses are private property and the proprietor sets the rules. The right ppl have to not wear a mask, is the same that businesses have to deny service
Restaurants have been doing it for year: jacket & tie, no cut offs, tank top, bathing suits.
This is just an extension of it, except it has health implications
zeroofshadow
its an ADA requirement to be accommodating UNTIL it starts to affect others, you know, like you being a plague rat.
NPCommentator
So many fucking people who don't know what HIPAA is.
Jagerbeast
Is wearing a mask for 10 minutes really that fucking difficult!?
cinemeasctha
He asked her if he could shop for her even seeing her with her phone up. They must be putting up with so much nowadays.
mynewestusername
Yeah, it was clear she had no intention of shopping
RegularSauce
If she's worried about shopping for private things wouldn't she want a mask?
smax410
ADA says it’s fine if they provide a reasonable alternative like curbside pickup. It protects your rights to services not to do whatevs.
PreviouslyALurker
Fuck that cunt
Nixchik
Exactly!
tReasonoustRump
ThePastmaster
No, no, don't do that. You'll make more of them!
dogdays2025
Double fuck that cunt. Sorry, I'm angry!
MrJwinkyface
Stop fucking these people. We want them out of the gene pool
SpammaJamma
Guarentee she doesn't have a medical condition. Being a cunt is a characteristic.
odinsravenscloaca
“I’m not allowed to wear a mask”...shut the fuck up
OmnipotentBeing
Fuck you and your imaginary medical condition Karen.
p3rv
This bitch tried to invoke HIPAA when she obviously doesn't know what it is ?
theInternetKing
so funny
mattyrich12
She should’ve played her hidden immunity idol.
Fargus57
She was right tho. HIPAA protects her from having to disclose her 'condition' if asked. Which is what she said. It never came up tho.
DukeDarkwood
No. HIPAA protects her from insurance fraud by giving her control over access to personally identifiable information. The ADA (Americans
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with Disabilities Act) protects her from having to disclose her condition, to prevent discrimination based on condition.
Meeker001
nonCanadianGoose
That has no bearing on dress codes
Fargus57
Doesn't matter in this context. All she said about HIPAA was that it protected her from having to disclose her condition. Which is correct.
nonCanadianGoose
Private businesses can refuse service for not following dress code regardless of medical condition. Collared shirts have no medical >
Fargus57
That wasn't the point. What she stated was that she was not required to disclose what her medical condition was, which is correct.
nonCanadianGoose
>Implications associated with them, but night clubs can deny you entry for not wearing one.
Adamarket
Also the ADA doesn’t allow you to endanger other people because of your condition. Sue away.
nonCanadianGoose
In the same way that the 2nd amendment does not apply on private property.
electrette
Both of these guys handled her like a pro being calm and direct! They must be taking so much crap right now. Thanks grocery guys!
hammersquirrel
“Gonna file a lawsuit” - you do that shit in court, not here
nonCanadianGoose
Lawyer will laugh her out the office. There’s no case.
DivorcedOfCourse
Some lawyer will take her money because he knows he can file a bogus cookie cutter lawsuit that will never see court
FutureHylian
You can see in the dudes reaction that he knows full well how thats gonna go.
bealzebro
My response to that is "Very well. I'm ending this conversation, further communication will need to take place with corporate legal..."
Thisisntthegreatestusernameitisonlyatribute
God I love throwing that line down. Sure makes an unreasonable customer act reasonable all of a sudden.
hammersquirrel
My response is: don’t let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya
YokomichiSilver
Here's the store, here's their rules in place. Don't like it? Shop somewhere else then. Either respect the rules or piss off.
princessdogface
Fucking Karen! Wear a mask, bitch!
whatwouldyousayyoudohere
This was well handled
Noob3rts
I completely agree with you, but I really need to slap somebody upside the head in reference to the lack of gloves.
LegoStomper
That dude doesn't get paid enough.
AvocadoHouse
I wish I owned a business to hire this guy. He seems like so much fun to work with
DukeDarkwood
He never lost his cool, he was aware of the rules, and he provided an alternative that would work for anyone with an ACTUAL mask problem.
Squid3k
Despite your view on masks, there is no excuse for being an asshole, and what's worse is she had to have been the one to post it.
aninvisiblemaniac
exactly. these are your options if you dont like them we cant help you further, sorry
UsernameMatt
Who watches these videos and thinks, "Wow, I wish I was that person yelling at another human being for doing their job."
whatwouldyousayyoudohere
That’s who I was referring to; Karen handled the situation flawlessly
purina5
Karen was hoping for a rise and got none. What planet you on? She cant wear a mask but wants to go into a store... got to be kidding me
whatwouldyousayyoudohere
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wiltsjunk
Yeah I would have told her to fuck off
BobaFettApproves
What do these people think they’re even winning? Other than the award for a mass stupidity contest
badyeti
That's the thing isn't it there's no winning, it's just being ignorant for the sake of it.
BobaFettApproves
It’s embarrassing to have to share a country with these brainless Karen haircut having bitches, I’m done ✅
BobaFettApproves
Can people catch intelligence for once?
hesbeginningtobelieve
This is Dana point, 15 minutes from me. If I only had her address I’d go shit on her porch.
serepta
Dana point is nice!
NewbieNoobs
Oh jeez. Another Karen from OC (I’m 25 minutes from Dana Point)
lastmanonearthbutidroppedmyglasses
"I have private stuff I don't want you to see." Lady, how do you think a store works?
InLoveandUnderPaid
This bugged me too! It’s not as if grocery stores don’t have cameras all over supermarkets ?
ThePastmaster
"You still have to go though check out." is the obvious answer to that.
Adamarket
This is a public place. Keep your privacy in private, not public.
Whatswrongwiththispicture
I guess she planned on stealing it instead of going through checkout
TomsKid
This
Mairoa
Ahh yes, the secret items at the store the employees don't know about. Those things.
kkanne20
Right? The cashier is gonna see it anyway. Jesus Christ
DrasticBastard
You’d think she’d want to cover her face if she’s shoplifting.
nonCanadianGoose
And then the bagger, I doubt she does her own
Whackamoley
In all fairness, self checkout can be pretty private nowadays. Just saying it helps with awkward stuff. Not completely private of course.
serepta
What is so private that you can’t buy it in regular grocery store line?
Whackamoley
Technically you can with anything. Feels -better- to check out with feminine products and such in self checkout now though as one example.
MeowMachine12
Right? Buying carrots and a loaf of bread isn't a private affair
awkwardbeautiful
Also, that store doesn’t look like it sells dildos or other sex paraphernalia, so it can’t be that private of stuff.
MarxAvenger
Even if it was for dildos & whatnot, she would still have to at minimum go to self checkout where there are attendants, or steal.
EccentricNimoy
Its Gelson's. It's a regional, upscale supermarket.
serepta
I loved Gelsons in LA! Superb grocery store!
Calistrasza
As someone with a legit medical condition, fuck this entitled cunt sideways with an axe.
DeanOMiite
The best is when people record this stuff, like "I can't wait for millions of ppl to agree with me!" then they get crushed.
ironmanmkii
Trouble is they will post on a circle jerk group that validate her opinions, and they will never realise.
yinkum326
I posted another video of her doing this to someone else. She’s a grade C Cunt!
GuyLuomo
Link?
kingkongkeom
Videos should be collected and then a lawsuit filed against her for harassing store employees and trying to exploite a medical condition law
ClericOfTheProsperityGospel
I don't get the no mask people. Like I'm mostly for reopening, to certain extents, and the fucking masks make it safer for everyone. Dumbos.
Adamarket
Amen.
QueenLahQueefa
Some people actually do have issues, but the beautiful thing about this age is that you can use that little plastic rectangle in your (1/2)
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pocket to get other people to shop for you. They shop for hundreds a day, They're not going to remember your personal stuff tomorrow. (2/2)
Jokerthehulk
It’s people having no compassion for others but they’ll try to spin it as they aren’t sheep. It would really help if our president wore one.
pandro
There's a pic posted of him wearing one. "Looks like he's pouting." He took it off later.
pandro
(today. not before.)
TheZommie
i ain't afraid of no invisible enemy, im afraid of the mask cause i can see it
ILikedTheirOldStuffBetter
Larkins
I wish more stores would do this and stood up for their employees and customers.
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pooslap
Scare tactics from the gov, dont belive it. You have every right to spend tou money, no matter the scare tactics
eddbrowne
No brains, no service.
whatareyougonnadodownvoteme
I was at the store yesterday and more customers were wearing masks than employees, with a sign requiring masks to shop, still baffled
HannibalPoopsPeople
I wish someone would have said “someone’s going to have to scan all your items, someone can grab them off a shelf. Can’t be that private”
pooslap
I bet you also wish you had a big dick in your ass, but here we are
superunderpants
Excuse me sir, you dropped your salt
TinFoilKat
Wolvenlight
reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-coronavirus-mask-hypercapni/partly-false-claim-continually-wearing-a-mask-causes-hypercapnia-idUSKBN22H2H1
Scheibi82
Continually is the word that's important here. Until you dont use a plastic bag as mask this is irrelevant- tell this to docs doing surgeons
c00lbeans69
I see zero citations in this graphic. I'd like the sources please
nero4ty2
And somehow my 65 year old mother in law OR nurse has been wearing one for 30 years daily...
kaytwit
Took the words right out of my mouth. I wear one almost 12 hours at a time, 3 days a week. Somehow I've survived.
Iamyourcaptainnow
Yeah...no. Not with this kind of masks. Everything except the biggest particles goes trough.
Ullur
Name checks out
mufasamufasa
So you’re telling us that the surgeons you trust to cut you open and perform life saving surgery for hours are susceptible to these things?
hadtochangemyusernamecauseIgotdivorced
It usually all comes down to the general manager or store owner. Whether they want to do their job or just delegate everything.
Ynigmatyk
So long as they are willing to provide the masks I dont see the issue. (Not everyone has means to obtain them)
hadtochangemyusernamecauseIgotdivorced
Provide them to customers? Idk about that. Much easier to just provide curbside or delivery service to those who don't want to wear a mask.
Ynigmatyk
Well curbside and provide to employees
Ynigmatyk
Although in the video he was willing to provide to karen
helptouchme
that manager offered both lmao
RosencrantzNGuildensternNeverLived
California, man. They walk on eggshells there, wouldn’t want to dent someone’s chakras, they may have just gotten them aligned.
LeTeat
As doctor, and I can tell you there are numerous medical conditions which can prevent you from wearing a mask, most of these are various 1/2
LeTeat
Combinations of a lack of ears, except one, in which the whole body is replaced by one cunt. Again, I'm not a doctor. You are fake news.
fleetfoot
Can secure the mask around the back of the head
pooslap
How dare you. There are folks out there that this pandemic and saftey measures deeply effect. Gfy nicky houser....
LeTeat
I've never heard of you, you are fake news.
superunderpants
Not wearing a mask kills people. Death > deeply affected. If you can't wear a mask then stay indoors and keep other vulnerable people safe
riphenstone
I think she has no idea what HIPPA is about
theInternetKing
*HIPAA
riphenstone
I can believe I did that. Thanks.
theInternetKing
i got u fam
Fargus57
Why? What she said was correct. She does not have to disclose what her (fake) medical condition is to the store staff.
starshroom108
Yes but noone asked so what she wanted to invoke was maybe ADA
Fargus57
Right. She jumped the gun on her argument assuming that they would ask what her condition was.
thegelatoking
HIPAA pertains to healthcare & healthcare insurance industries & how they handle information. What she’s doing has nothing to do with that.
Tezunegari
That has nothing to do with HIPAA. HIPAA regulates how medical personal handles YOUR medical information.
WombatWithWholeWheatWish
She has a medical condition. A mental one.
OmnipotentBeing
I hope she gets the medical condition known as COVID-19.
aLilBlindKid
“You might have a minor case of serious brain damage.”
katimius
Thank you!!! Businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone for absolutely no cause.
OctopusStinkhorn
But they do have a cause
ispano
Well, there are reasons they can't deny service, but this is not one of them.
Bullocks57
Lol not required by HIPAA. I dont think she understands what HIPAA is.
Garett
But because of it hippa ,,,and the regulations....like and such as she’s gunna sue !
Bullocks57
Nascarfartbeer
DigiT00l
I don't! Am not American, please help
pandro
HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act) in part means medical people aren't allowed to disclose your information 1/
pandro
to other people or agencies without your permission. It has zilch to do with your interactions at a store. She is thinking of the ADA 2/
pandro
(Americans with Disabilities Act) which requires reasonable accommodation for a person's disability. Companies have made it clear that 3/
pandro
some shit is not going to fly under the ADA, when employees can't meet the job requirements. If the job requires heavy lifting, you can't 4/
TomsKid
I thought... Did she just say HIPPA? Lol she's an idiot
ebonybutterfree
*HIPAA, Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act
DivorcedOfCourse
Yes. She said HIPPA
DoomBloodGoddess
It’s safe to assume as a prominent flat earther, she doesn’t understand very much of anything that requires a little effort.
Senorglory
the law that controls disclosure of confidential information by medical professionals? yeah, i dont' think she understands HIPAA.
DukeDarkwood
HIPAA is about preventing insurance fraud by keeping personally identifiable information protected. She 100% means the ADA.
Kvothefefe
She meant ADA. Probably just didn't bother reading the anti-masker memo closely enough.
CidColetti
I think she meant HIPPO which she probably is.
SacrificialClam
It's the only privacy policy she knows how to pronounce
harmtheohmless
I bet her laminated card says HIPPA anyway.
LichsGaze
What, my grocer isn't a covered entity now?
santini35
It's actually ADA requirements these a**holes are trying to exploit. But this store knows that they only have make reasonable accommodations
DivorcedOfCourse
Yep. This! The ADA is to protect discrimination for the disabled. Unfortunately people think being dumb is a disability.
santini35
Such as shopping for you. Plus the ADA rules only work if the accommodation does not put others at risk, and allowing you to not wear a mask
santini35
Puts others at risk, so bye bye Karen
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Mairoa
Yeah, to actual disabled people, it's like taking to convince someone you're a doctor by saying the names of random body parts and diseases
p3rv
I very much appreciate your knowing how the acronym is spelled.
Bullocks57
Word to your mom.
MelfsAcidArrow
I always ask people to tell me what the second P is for in HIPPA
MelfsAcidArrow
Hell most don’t know that it’s health insurance not health information
p3rv
I was once told "No, it's spelled HIPPA. Because HIPPA."
MelfsAcidArrow
RedLanternGrodd
It's a copy/paste reply the conspiritards on facebook spread
OurLordLucifer
Lol, conspiritards. If ur on facebook, it’s likely u are a fill-in-the-blank-tard
Bullocks57
And she videos it to share thinking shes some freedom vigilante but it just makes her look like a bumbling idiot.
ZachariasWolfe
Which is great, because the other idiots can shoot the same bullshit and clearly identify themselves as liars.
RedLanternGrodd
A thread on here a few days ago showed he social media presence. Huge tin foil hat gal. Vaccines are implanting chips and she is woke. Gross
Bullocks57
I didnt see it, but judging by her behavior I'm not surprised.
ProperPlanningPreventsPissPoorPerformance
"... not required by HIPAA rules and regulations..." This lady here. I bet she doesn't even know what HIPAA protects. Good on this company
FutureHylian
Probably doesnt know what it stands for
EccentricNimoy
Psst! What does it stand for?
theInternetKing
Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act
HIPAA: Acronym that stands for the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act,
theInternetKing
a US law designed to provide privacy standards to protect patients' medical records and other health information provided to health plans,
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doctors, hospitals and other health care providers
Bullocks57
She definitely doesnt know what HIPAA stands for. She was just rambling and didnt make any sense
DivorcedOfCourse
My guess is she heard someone say that asking for a diagnosis is a HIPPA violation (I have heard people say that before)
pandro
And as you can see, it's actually a thing under the ADA, not HIPAA.
Meyek
You legally don't have to disclose your condition to other people. Faking a medical disability is a crime though.
DukeDarkwood
However, that legal right is guaranteed by the Americans with Disabilities Act, NOT the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act.
PoliticalWanderer
1) Entitled conservative assholes think they can say "I'm disabled" and get anything they want. ADA doesn't work that way. It means people
PoliticalWanderer
2) have to try to accommodate the disability. If you don't accept the accommodation AND your (in this case, so-called) disability poses a
sakasiru
This. They have to accommodate her disability, not her "I don't want to see you what I'm shopping". At this point, it's just her problem.
nonCanadianGoose
Dress code has nothing to do with disability. There’s no medical condition associated with shirts but as the sign says....
Hurtsdo
Key word missing here is "Reasonable", and there are many provisions that are exempt if they cause hardship to accommodate.
PoliticalWanderer
Fair, I did leave that out, as I was trying to bang this comment thread/explainer out quickly.
Hurtsdo
Most businesses are not dumb and will not open themselves to lawsuits, not to mention want everyone's money, or just are the good eggs.
PoliticalWanderer
3) threat to others, then you're out of luck. It'll be interesting to see what happens if someone taking the advice of an internet lawyer,
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4) who is usually their uncle Steve, actually gets slam dunked in a court. The expressions will be priceless.
ArchangelTitus
Why are American's so tribalistic with the political leanings? She's a cunt. You do not know her thoughts and you don't get to just label
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her as the enemy to justify your dislike for "conservatives". Cop yourself on and stop with this childish crap.
sarkonas
I used to think like you do, but 2016 onward really showed me who the ignorant assholes are
ArchangelTitus
I do not think that is a healthy mindset and an issue you should work on. This is the same thought paths as racism and xenophobia. Hate the
ArchangelTitus
"other" the people not of the tribe who agrees with you. If you took the time to meet normal conservatives you would see they are perfectly
WatercolorActivist
It was 2008 when the tea party asshats mysteriously appeared, being fully funded by the Kochs. What a maroon. (Not you, the repubs)
EatmaBallsMD
Why must you say ‘conservative’ anything.? She is just an ignoramus. By saying conservative you label yourself, not her.
TimeToGetGetSchwiftyInHere
Probs just because the conservative-elected president told her she didn’t have to as he downplays it.
QuickLighting53
No, conservatives are the ones overwhelmingly pushing this stupidity (but muh freedumbs!). You're labeling yourself though.
Applewhite5
There is zero chance this lady is a liberal
EccentricNimoy
Oh, probably "libertarians" too. Those people tend to be jerks about urging them to do or, not do reasonable things as well
c00lbeans69
Idk. I see a lot of "Trump 2020" at the reopen protests
Mairoa
I saw one with a goddamn swastika on it. Everyone I know on the left is somehow on team "taking care of others" hrmmm
PoliticalWanderer
Because US conservatives are the ones pushing anti-mask stuff and are making it a meme to try using the ADA. It's a fact, not a label.
PoliticalWanderer
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-hot-new-far-right-coronavirus-trend-is-claiming-a-disability-to-avoid-wearing-a-mask
PoliticalWanderer
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/01/masks-politics-coronavirus-227765
PoliticalWanderer
https://www.rt.com/usa/489020-limbaugh-sharia-masks-coronavirus-lockdown/