There's this bit in season 5 of Fargo where Jon Hamm's character is saying all kinds of magat BS to Jennifer Jason Leigh's character about "freedom" & she notes he's asking for freedom without any responsibility. Which he says yeah, TRUE freedom. & She says, but there's only one kind of person in the world who gets that. & he guesses 'the president of the US'. & she corrects him, nope. A baby. A baby is the only person that gets freedom without any responsibility. "You're fighting to be a baby"
because they told him he is. They dont think for themselves. you can tell them anything and because the current asshole is something they identify with, they will follow.
He's a weak man's idea of a strong man, a stupid man's idea of a smart man, and a poor man's idea of a rich man. He's a reflection of his followers, and his followers reflect him.
This has always driven me insane. When I was in school if you whined about how something was "unfair" you might as well have worn a shirt that says "beat my ass". You'd get bullied by everyone. Band geeks, choir kids, theater club, you'd be everyone's easy target. Nothing screams weakness quite like "it's so unfaaaair". Enjoy your wedgie, bitch.
I'm not saying it was right to bully them, but it did happen. I don't know when it stopped being considered pathetic and weak.
For the same reason people went along with a very much not blond haired, blue eyed Austrian painter of average size, when he proclaimed that tall, blond haired and blue eyed Nordic people were the master race.
Lot of the top comments are accurate, but miss one glaring detail. God told them to love him. The roll of the church in the rapist felons rise to power can't be ignored. So many southerners hear at church on Sundays and in their monthly newsletters how trump is sent by God to save us all. That's why they ignore the bad, that's why they voted against common sense. Religious brainwashing.
Because they think being a man is acting on your basest instincts, which makes them more animals than anything. In fact there many animals that do better.
Mirroring. They see a lot of themselves in him and the cognitive dissonance that allows them to think trump is awesome subconsciously makes them feel better about themselves. It makes them feel good about being losers, racists, misogynists, bigots, etc. It erases what should be their shame and instead gives them comfort to praise and admire all of his shortcomings.
It's not really his personality so much as it's gathering around a person who hates the people they hate, and promises to hurt the people they want to hurt.
Trump is, essentially, a narcissistic "nepo baby" incel that has paid for every female relationship in his life. Either he paid them to stay (the wives) or he paid them to keep quiet (the mistresses, escorts, and all the rapes).
He's a big loud asshole who attacks the people they hate.
That HE doesn't conform to their ideas of manliness is irrelevant, because he is attacking the people who are trying to make THEM feel like less of a man - by threatening their guns, their trucks, their steaks, their racist jokes, their gay jokes, their transphobic jokes, their dominance over their families via threatend and actual violence, and the rest of that thoroughly shitty boy's club mentality.
He's forceful, pushy, impatient, rude, and unapologetic. That appeals to people who don't like to be corrected when they're being bigots, racists, sexists, transphobes, or whatever stripe of asshole they feel they need to be.
40 years of eating what I like to call the “Limbaugh Shit Pie” would warp anybody’s mind to mush and completely divorce them from reality… but more importantly to the GOP, their wallet.
One thing to add onto that is "perception is reality", there's lots of different 'places' to view from in the world, and lots of ways to color how someone will interpret what they view, emphasize one thing (eggs) over others
He's not smart. He's not good looking. He is physically and mentally weak. He struggles to put together a coherent sentence. He cannot speak without lying or putting someone else down. He's never taken responsibility for anything he's ever done. He takes credit for others successes every chance he can. He cheats at golf, every time he plays. Hell, he's never even had a dog!
He has never said anything actually funny, if we exclude the times he said something so stupid it's funny because how can anyone be so stupid. "Everything's computer".
Because they're the same way. They have main character syndrome, they think they are all strong and masculine action movie heroes but are actually whiny, scared little men. So when they look at trump and see themselves, they impose their views of themselves onto him.
It's not that mystifying. In the same way you can't be bothered to search for things that interest you, it does not interest the poster to add tags. Freedom is not just for you
Manhattan elite, silver spoon, limp wrist, private school, never worked hard a day in his life, disrespected every woman he ever met, cheated on every wife, never paid a bill without being forced, tried to fuck the wives of every guy around him, perved on kids including his own.
One of Trump’s latest utterances of stupidity was his rift on the word “groceries”. He went on and on how it was such a great word. All it revealed is that he has never shopped for groceries in his life.
This is such a small minded, idiotic thing to believe. Yes he's racist and sexist but that's not THE REASON his base likes him, and if you think that's the case then all you're doing is allowing yourself to believe bullshit that makes you feel superior in the moment while losing the underlying truth about why/how they operate, which means eventually they'll do things you won't be able to predict.
...So what's this truth then? Because so far it logically just falls to the average trumper being a short-sighted xenophobe. These people don't have any other consistent underlying logic to their actions than just blundering chauvinism.
That's mostly correct. It's not specifically racism or sexism, it's just a blanket superiority complex over everything and all people. It's not necessarily "I'm better because you're a woman" or "I'm better because you're black" but rather "I'm better because I'm me, and you're not. I deserves the best and the more similar you are to me, the more you also deserve the best, and the more different you are from me, the more you deserve the worst." It's basically that simple.
I didn't say it was because he is racist and sexist. I said it was because he makes his followers feel that they can be racist and sexist Openly without repercussions.
That's not their primary motivation. Their primary motivation is that they are weaklings and cowards who have convinced themselves they deserve the best of everything the world has to offer because they're Americans. But not just any Americans, you see, they're "True Americans!" Women and minorities to them are not True Americans, but that's only part of the picture. You need to understand the whole thing to see where they're coming from and better prepare yourself to fight them.
One of the primary reasons maga followers love fat Dony is the fuck you attitude donold gives off. His followers are dissatisfied with one or more aspects of their lives, and a residence to change (which is happening fast) and it scares them. Here’s a guy who says what they want to hear in a way they want to hear it and can understand it. His false macho bullshit is viewed as strength. What everyone fails to recognize is his innate understanding of his maga base.I think he is a reprehensible pos
It literally is though because it's closer to the truth, which by the way is not "Trump's followers literally only follow him because of racism and sexism and no other reasons." which is what was claimed above.
Trelis
He is open about his racism, his bigotry, his misogyny, and gave them an opportunity to do the same.
januarylover
There's this bit in season 5 of Fargo where Jon Hamm's character is saying all kinds of magat BS to Jennifer Jason Leigh's character about "freedom" & she notes he's asking for freedom without any responsibility. Which he says yeah, TRUE freedom. & She says, but there's only one kind of person in the world who gets that. & he guesses 'the president of the US'. & she corrects him, nope. A baby. A baby is the only person that gets freedom without any responsibility. "You're fighting to be a baby"
johnblood616
They want to BE him. They wish they were rich with no work or talent. They want to grab pussies, say racist shit, and fuck their own daughters.
cgt9803
Orange makeup, a girdle and high heel shoes, so tough.
redditmcredditface
because they told him he is. They dont think for themselves. you can tell them anything and because the current asshole is something they identify with, they will follow.
thecollective01
He's a weak man's idea of a strong man, a stupid man's idea of a smart man, and a poor man's idea of a rich man. He's a reflection of his followers, and his followers reflect him.
afambelafonte
This has always driven me insane. When I was in school if you whined about how something was "unfair" you might as well have worn a shirt that says "beat my ass". You'd get bullied by everyone. Band geeks, choir kids, theater club, you'd be everyone's easy target. Nothing screams weakness quite like "it's so unfaaaair". Enjoy your wedgie, bitch.
I'm not saying it was right to bully them, but it did happen. I don't know when it stopped being considered pathetic and weak.
eldermae
It’s exactly the lie that makes them feel “seen”. They revel in the upside down world he’s ushered in where scum can be king.
TlsGrz
For the same reason people went along with a very much not blond haired, blue eyed Austrian painter of average size, when he proclaimed that tall, blond haired and blue eyed Nordic people were the master race.
FlyingTigerRose
Wishful thinking. When I see Trumpelthinskin portrayed like Captain America, I have a gag reflex.
magus200342
Lot of the top comments are accurate, but miss one glaring detail. God told them to love him. The roll of the church in the rapist felons rise to power can't be ignored. So many southerners hear at church on Sundays and in their monthly newsletters how trump is sent by God to save us all. That's why they ignore the bad, that's why they voted against common sense. Religious brainwashing.
Xtendedelay
Because they think being a man is acting on your basest instincts, which makes them more animals than anything. In fact there many animals that do better.
Dannoboyo
He’s rude and disrespectful, like a third grade playground bully. So imagine the base emotional age of the people impressed by that behavior
owlfart
Mirroring. They see a lot of themselves in him and the cognitive dissonance that allows them to think trump is awesome subconsciously makes them feel better about themselves. It makes them feel good about being losers, racists, misogynists, bigots, etc. It erases what should be their shame and instead gives them comfort to praise and admire all of his shortcomings.
Allrighty
He has power and abuses it as he sees fit. That's their definition of strength and masculinity.
Allrighty
Basically, it's cargo cult masculinity, confusing cause and effect.
SkyVINS
Because he is them.
ThatRaccoonGuy
It's not really his personality so much as it's gathering around a person who hates the people they hate, and promises to hurt the people they want to hurt.
VinnyVeritas
Trump is, essentially, a narcissistic "nepo baby" incel that has paid for every female relationship in his life. Either he paid them to stay (the wives) or he paid them to keep quiet (the mistresses, escorts, and all the rapes).
TheWombatStrikesAgain
He's a big loud asshole who attacks the people they hate.
That HE doesn't conform to their ideas of manliness is irrelevant, because he is attacking the people who are trying to make THEM feel like less of a man - by threatening their guns, their trucks, their steaks, their racist jokes, their gay jokes, their transphobic jokes, their dominance over their families via threatend and actual violence, and the rest of that thoroughly shitty boy's club mentality.
cabalin
It’s the makeup
SomeDetroitGuy
I never understood Trump's appeal and how he of all people got a cult of personality.
DarthWaiterSE
He's forceful, pushy, impatient, rude, and unapologetic. That appeals to people who don't like to be corrected when they're being bigots, racists, sexists, transphobes, or whatever stripe of asshole they feel they need to be.
BeerFueledAdventurer
They are detached from reality. "There are none so blind as those who will not see."
EntropicEVO
40 years of eating what I like to call the “Limbaugh Shit Pie” would warp anybody’s mind to mush and completely divorce them from reality… but more importantly to the GOP, their wallet.
GeneralWho
If I still believed the Bible was accurate, his cult following would actually make a lot more sense. https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/ Starts as some "haha coincidence" numerology and then just....keeps going.
aducksayswhat
One thing to add onto that is "perception is reality", there's lots of different 'places' to view from in the world, and lots of ways to color how someone will interpret what they view, emphasize one thing (eggs) over others
Blackfinity
WTF is this guy talking about? I mean, just look at how manly and heroic Trump is. /s :
Magjee
I can do this all day, but I'm choosing not to because your knees are bad and I'm being nice! okay? okay? okay? /s
AyatollahBahloni
"When he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is." They are one and the same.
AdroitDrin
because he provides them with a platform to publicly express their hatred.
anotherrandomname
He's not smart. He's not good looking. He is physically and mentally weak. He struggles to put together a coherent sentence. He cannot speak without lying or putting someone else down. He's never taken responsibility for anything he's ever done. He takes credit for others successes every chance he can. He cheats at golf, every time he plays. Hell, he's never even had a dog!
Dailywitchery
Or a beer, or a good laugh at himself, or a warm, empathetic emotion.
villlllle
He has never said anything actually funny, if we exclude the times he said something so stupid it's funny because how can anyone be so stupid. "Everything's computer".
anotherrandomname
Go easy on the guy- he hadn't seen the dashboard of a car in over 40 years.
DeadnCold
Because they're the same way. They have main character syndrome, they think they are all strong and masculine action movie heroes but are actually whiny, scared little men. So when they look at trump and see themselves, they impose their views of themselves onto him.
BioFlayerMedia
Main character syndrome
Ababybunny
Closet nazis
sfrinlan
temporarily embarrassed action heroes
pyaremohan
Skuggen
Exactly. So when he claims to be the manliest of manly men, they go "But that would mean _I'm_ also the manliest of manly men! Wow, this guy gets it!"
thinkybrainpains
Yep, they see themselves in him
CloseupCaptionReaction
One thing that mystifies me, is the fact that political posters are unable to use #politics tags.
SnowpersonHitInTheFaceWithALackOfCreativity
It's not that mystifying. In the same way you can't be bothered to search for things that interest you, it does not interest the poster to add tags. Freedom is not just for you
johnblood616
Wahhhh wahhhhh shut the fuck up
TalkingSnake
Manhattan elite, silver spoon, limp wrist, private school, never worked hard a day in his life, disrespected every woman he ever met, cheated on every wife, never paid a bill without being forced, tried to fuck the wives of every guy around him, perved on kids including his own.
And the stupid fucking inbred cunts love him.
Jamnew60
One of Trump’s latest utterances of stupidity was his rift on the word “groceries”. He went on and on how it was such a great word. All it revealed is that he has never shopped for groceries in his life.
TalkingSnake
It's an old time word.
johnblood616
Yeah, they were so sick of coastal elites they elected a game-show host from NYC that lives in a gold tower
smorsdoeuvres
nation543
He does everything they wish they could
karlfrack
Wears makeup full-time.
TalkingSnake
Heels too
Shaodyn
And don't forget that he can't even have conversations without insulting the person he's talking to.
TalkingSnake
You mean like Ted Cruz whose wife is ugly?
Shaodyn
Or various foreign dignitaries he was entertaining whose entire countries he managed to insult.
Shaodyn
Of course, he won't have to worry about that much, what with his tariff nonsense having pissed off the entire world.
PineappleIsDeliciousOnPizzaFightMe
He allows people to be openly racist and sexist again. That is all his followers care about.
TonyBalogna
This.
akafluffy
specifically, they think strong people belittle others, and since he tries non-stop, he must be strong in their eyes.
masteryoplait
This. It’s just this. At their core they blame immigrants, gays and women for their luck in life.
Jamnew60
Exactly, they love Trump because he hates the people they hate!
JS87
Don’t forget most grew up in the 60’s where separate drinking fountains were a thing. A black president was too much for them.
walnutbreath
Most of his voters did not grow up in the 1960s. Most were either too young to remember or not born yet.
TheGgreen100
This is such a small minded, idiotic thing to believe. Yes he's racist and sexist but that's not THE REASON his base likes him, and if you think that's the case then all you're doing is allowing yourself to believe bullshit that makes you feel superior in the moment while losing the underlying truth about why/how they operate, which means eventually they'll do things you won't be able to predict.
VulgarLittlePuppy
...So what's this truth then? Because so far it logically just falls to the average trumper being a short-sighted xenophobe. These people don't have any other consistent underlying logic to their actions than just blundering chauvinism.
TheGgreen100
That's mostly correct. It's not specifically racism or sexism, it's just a blanket superiority complex over everything and all people. It's not necessarily "I'm better because you're a woman" or "I'm better because you're black" but rather "I'm better because I'm me, and you're not. I deserves the best and the more similar you are to me, the more you also deserve the best, and the more different you are from me, the more you deserve the worst." It's basically that simple.
PineappleIsDeliciousOnPizzaFightMe
I didn't say it was because he is racist and sexist. I said it was because he makes his followers feel that they can be racist and sexist Openly without repercussions.
TheGgreen100
That's not their primary motivation. Their primary motivation is that they are weaklings and cowards who have convinced themselves they deserve the best of everything the world has to offer because they're Americans. But not just any Americans, you see, they're "True Americans!" Women and minorities to them are not True Americans, but that's only part of the picture. You need to understand the whole thing to see where they're coming from and better prepare yourself to fight them.
stayme
One of the primary reasons maga followers love fat Dony is the fuck you attitude donold gives off. His followers are dissatisfied with one or more aspects of their lives, and a residence to change (which is happening fast) and it scares them. Here’s a guy who says what they want to hear in a way they want to hear it and can understand it. His false macho bullshit is viewed as strength. What everyone fails to recognize is his innate understanding of his maga base.I think he is a reprehensible pos
TheGgreen100
THANK YOU! This is it. It's more complex than "me like Donnie cause Donnie racist and sexist like me."
onlyhalfghost
"they're not racist and sexist, they're racist and sexist and also generally paranoid xenophobes" isn't a useful take
TheGgreen100
It literally is though because it's closer to the truth, which by the way is not "Trump's followers literally only follow him because of racism and sexism and no other reasons." which is what was claimed above.