The whole thing is mind bogglingly dumb to me. They intentionally baited cops to show up. For all the people supposedly shooting, there was only one hit. And they had no escape plan beyond "run away". As a side note, the absece of any kind of group affiliation is telling, as though we're supposed to think a dozen men just randomly got together earlier that night and decided to lure cops into an ambush. If this had been a leftwing group you better believe Faux News wouldn't shut up about it.
Sounds like BS. No footage, no audio, no evidence. Despite the fact that the camp should have PLENTY of cameras, and cops should be wearing body-cams.
If there are supposedly no Epstein files, then clearly you should not believe a single thing the MAGA news claims. They will lie through their teeth as they start burying folks in mass graves one day, telling you that the people were just killing and burying themselves.
Zero footage of the attack and a story that sounds like absolute horseshit. The initial story sounded a lot more like a cop got friendly fired by ice. So just remember, there are no epstein files and this came from fox news
Unarmed ICE approaches folks dressed in Tacti Cool gear? Why didn't they go guns up like they do for folks in civilian attire wielding only a phone? Or at least guns up like they do with singular women armed with small children?
This is just the start. History knows, the harder you press down on people, the harder they will fight back after a certain point. These people could literally have kept the status quo from the start of the administration and still made off with billions and people would grumble and gripe, but no one would really have DONE anything.
Now though? The danger in taking everything from someone is that they have nothing left to lose when they finally come for you.
“If you have to look along the shaft of an arrow from the wrong end, then hope like hell that man is an evil man. Because the evil like power, power over people, and they want to see you in fear. They want you to know you're going to die. So they'll talk. They'll gloat.
They'll watch you squirm. They'll put off the moment of murder like another man will put off a good cigar.
So hope like hell your captor is an evil man. A good man will kill you with hardly a word.”
The back of house at my work is all Mexican immigrants. This is starting to take a toll on them. I see it in their faces and the change in personality lately. One of them asked me the other day if I hated Mexicans too.
Referring to this as a "...not so-called peaceful protest" is a load of glistening shit. Nobody is saying it was a peaceful protest, you twat. It was clearly an ambush. But, y'all brought it on yourselves. I'm sure it won't be the last one.
They were charged bc of local LEO responding to a 911 call pertaining to the group and he was allegedly shot by one of them. According to reports the initial scene involved two ICE agents from the Detention Center, and one LEO.
Depending on the jurisdiction, LEO'S can make 6-figure salaries before overtime. The causal variable being the amount of tax revenue for that area, rural not so much. Wealthy suburbs and large cities = $$
"Entry-level officers in LAPD make $86,192...more than 5-7 yrs >$120,000, (£88k, €102k, Au$183k) and $197,000 with overtime and other incentives."
My answer is that much of what was stolen from the Jewish and other oppressed people during the holocaust still hasn’t been recovered. “Where you’re going you won’t need American money.” “This bracelet would be a great gift for my wife.” I don’t have receipts. They are not seeing people. They are corralling animals in their mind. It’s the only way to do such awful things to others. Slaughterhouse mentality.
Fucking of course they are. Higher standard cops have been doing it for ages and you don’t think these non-identifiable, masked, secret gestapo “police”/“agents” aren’t robbing??? JFC
"Guys, we need to sit back and quietly ask them to stop while they kidnap us all off the street!"
Look, if you want to be a gutless coward, that's fine. Not everybody has the courage to fight. But don't you dare act like you're superior because you surrendered.
They'll play the victim with a boot crushing your windpipe.
And don't come back with the "centrists won't respond well to violence" bullshit. They're the reason we're here. A bunch of single issue voters said "both sides are the same" and damned us with this prolapse of a presidency.
Shut the fuck up. LEO? Ice isn't LEO you class traitor son of a bitch they are literally the Geshtapo. You strike me as the kind of person who would have snitched on Anne Frank.
Due process is gone, fuckwit. Habeas corpus doesn't matter if they're gonna hold people indefinitely in "immigration detention".
We are already balls deep into fascism, and it's time for people to wake the fuck up.
Also, ICE is not the cops. ICE is an illegal gang of thugs assaulting and kidnapping people, depriving them of their due process demanded by the Constitution.
*ICE member or MAGAT shoots @spittleteets dead* "well, I'm dead now while they get to live, but at least I had the moral high ground so that means i win so there! *sticks out tongue* NYEHH!"
Between the millions who voted for Trump and non-voting of voting age (complacency is complicity) I would say that they are still operating with consent which is why we need more allies! We have to build stronger, greater, community bonds to mobilize a grass roots movement.
Imgur argument aside, have you thought long and hard ab what you're advocating for...what it actually entails? Taking someone's life, wanting a civil war?? Hundreds of thousands died in the last one, how many this time?
They are taking people off the street no warrants, no due process and deporting them. They are no longer beholden to "the court of public opinion". They are deporting people that are legally here who have paperwork, even citizens. And right now the consent of the people is not via legitimacy, it is by threat of harm. What else would you call masked ICE agents with no badges and no warrants abducting people? ICE is supposedly federal, not LEO (local enforcement officers).
memesarethebestever
no sympathy what-so-ever
TungstenOrbital
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bertchstudio
Every single law enforcement officer that doesn't fucking quit
Gets hunted
If they're not fighting for the people, they die
Bollramm
I want to see them proof in court that this was a federal ICE officer and how anybody would could have known that.
This will never stick unless they get a corrupt judge which, let's fucking face, will be made shure of!
DePhyler
What did they say during the school shootings? It's just one of those things., but hey, here is some Thoughts and Prayers for you. All better.
AvoidJW
And so it starts
Zetor
Fuck ice
ralph2sam
CmdrAdama
How would jack reacher tackle a situation
JohnThatcher
The whole thing is mind bogglingly dumb to me. They intentionally baited cops to show up. For all the people supposedly shooting, there was only one hit. And they had no escape plan beyond "run away". As a side note, the absece of any kind of group affiliation is telling, as though we're supposed to think a dozen men just randomly got together earlier that night and decided to lure cops into an ambush. If this had been a leftwing group you better believe Faux News wouldn't shut up about it.
spittleteets
NGL reminded me of the Manson Family Murders and how they wrote PIGS in an attempt to frame the Black Panthers and stoke racial tensions.
Chowmeng
Only good cop is a dead one, hope this happens more. Fuck those Nazi bastards.
DrewSmith0
Good. Fuck ICE.
kirmes
I don't like our trains, too.
Calicoastin818
Report these Fascist pigs using IceBlock
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/iceblock/id6741939020
WhattaMattahYou
hoping/waiting for something that works on Android
I can't afford a fancy schmancy iPhone
VioletLadyKady
Good. Death to Nazis.
eiger3970
What's left of Gestapo headquarters in Vienna.
kirmes
Looks like you really approach a civil war over again ...
GrenithTheSkald
Sounds like BS. No footage, no audio, no evidence. Despite the fact that the camp should have PLENTY of cameras, and cops should be wearing body-cams.
If there are supposedly no Epstein files, then clearly you should not believe a single thing the MAGA news claims. They will lie through their teeth as they start burying folks in mass graves one day, telling you that the people were just killing and burying themselves.
MeatPopsicleMultiPass
https://apnews.com/article/texas-immigration-detention-center-shooting-officer-ambush-f3782b689659270b10bd9b33bb48169b
ConstantMissclicks
Zero footage of the attack and a story that sounds like absolute horseshit. The initial story sounded a lot more like a cop got friendly fired by ice. So just remember, there are no epstein files and this came from fox news
OptimusPom
Unarmed ICE approaches folks dressed in Tacti Cool gear? Why didn't they go guns up like they do for folks in civilian attire wielding only a phone? Or at least guns up like they do with singular women armed with small children?
MeatPopsicleMultiPass
https://apnews.com/article/texas-immigration-detention-center-shooting-officer-ambush-f3782b689659270b10bd9b33bb48169b
pareidoliaperson
Came down to see this comment. Fuck faux news.
MapleSyrupMafia
You'd expect a camp to have plenty of cameras... They didn't show those graffitis either.
modis
This is just the start. History knows, the harder you press down on people, the harder they will fight back after a certain point. These people could literally have kept the status quo from the start of the administration and still made off with billions and people would grumble and gripe, but no one would really have DONE anything.
Now though? The danger in taking everything from someone is that they have nothing left to lose when they finally come for you.
LuminoZero
“If you have to look along the shaft of an arrow from the wrong end, then hope like hell that man is an evil man. Because the evil like power, power over people, and they want to see you in fear. They want you to know you're going to die. So they'll talk. They'll gloat.
They'll watch you squirm. They'll put off the moment of murder like another man will put off a good cigar.
So hope like hell your captor is an evil man. A good man will kill you with hardly a word.”
vrockurmouth
The back of house at my work is all Mexican immigrants. This is starting to take a toll on them. I see it in their faces and the change in personality lately. One of them asked me the other day if I hated Mexicans too.
happyrabbitzz
Was the "escort her out, this is private property" person a wal-mart employee?
MadnerKami
Store-manager, yes.
AtariJaguar64Bit
Be a shame if every single ICE agent was shot publicly. Real shame.
SirKaill
Well time for more jurry nullification
NinerThreeFourTangoXraySierra
The only thing they did wrong was get caught
Buffoonery
Referring to this as a "...not so-called peaceful protest" is a load of glistening shit. Nobody is saying it was a peaceful protest, you twat. It was clearly an ambush. But, y'all brought it on yourselves. I'm sure it won't be the last one.
JackDeHearts
How can they be charged with murder of an officer when ICE are not fed, police or any kind of law enforcement
spittleteets
They were charged bc of local LEO responding to a 911 call pertaining to the group and he was allegedly shot by one of them. According to reports the initial scene involved two ICE agents from the Detention Center, and one LEO.
adiving
Isn't it a common trope that your police make so little money they need a second job?
JackDeHearts
In fiction yeah. In reality cops get like 5x more than teachers
adiving
I don't consider 5 apples much of a pay tbf.
phobosorbust
that's teachers
although a lot of places here pay terrible wages for cops too
spittleteets
Depending on the jurisdiction, LEO'S can make 6-figure salaries before overtime. The causal variable being the amount of tax revenue for that area, rural not so much. Wealthy suburbs and large cities = $$
"Entry-level officers in LAPD make $86,192...more than 5-7 yrs >$120,000, (£88k, €102k, Au$183k) and $197,000 with overtime and other incentives."
alwaysupvotethegoat
Well if they stop kidnapping and robbing citizens…
alwaysupvotethegoat
My answer is that much of what was stolen from the Jewish and other oppressed people during the holocaust still hasn’t been recovered. “Where you’re going you won’t need American money.” “This bracelet would be a great gift for my wife.” I don’t have receipts. They are not seeing people. They are corralling animals in their mind. It’s the only way to do such awful things to others. Slaughterhouse mentality.
JRSYJAY
“Civil forfeiture” it’s not robbing when they do it. Rules of thee. Not for me.
RevengeIsIceCream
Are they robbing people as well? I only knew about the kidnappings.
rusrsdude
Bruh if regular cops are stealing, then these people are also definitely stealing.
CurbYourClassWar
Fucking of course they are. Higher standard cops have been doing it for ages and you don’t think these non-identifiable, masked, secret gestapo “police”/“agents” aren’t robbing??? JFC
RevengeIsIceCream
I'm not saying they aren't, I would not be surprised at all, but this is the first I hear about it. I just thought I would've heard more about it.
janeQdoe
People fighting back? Dare I hope?
myrealnames
Idk, they managed to not kill anyone? Might be a false flag since they aren't getting the response they need..
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LuminoZero
"Guys, we need to sit back and quietly ask them to stop while they kidnap us all off the street!"
Look, if you want to be a gutless coward, that's fine. Not everybody has the courage to fight. But don't you dare act like you're superior because you surrendered.
obarey
LEOs are already, openly, enemy of the people, and they are proud of it. Any action against them is self-defense.
JustAnotherCynicToo
The oppressors don't care about being your ally.
They'll play the victim with a boot crushing your windpipe.
And don't come back with the "centrists won't respond well to violence" bullshit. They're the reason we're here. A bunch of single issue voters said "both sides are the same" and damned us with this prolapse of a presidency.
HandsomePenguin
Shut the fuck up. LEO? Ice isn't LEO you class traitor son of a bitch they are literally the Geshtapo. You strike me as the kind of person who would have snitched on Anne Frank.
NKato
Due process is gone, fuckwit. Habeas corpus doesn't matter if they're gonna hold people indefinitely in "immigration detention".
We are already balls deep into fascism, and it's time for people to wake the fuck up.
Also, ICE is not the cops. ICE is an illegal gang of thugs assaulting and kidnapping people, depriving them of their due process demanded by the Constitution.
TexanSailor
Shooting masked “officials” who refuse to identify themselves when they are legally obligated to do so should be commonplace.
A law enforcement official who will not ID themselves is not acting in accordance with the law and has malicious intent. Full stop.
WhattaMattahYou
Shut up officer, if you don't like it resign.
It's not "Assigned Cop At Birth"
AtomicChipmunk
Worked fine in WW2
rbudrick
Oh, shut the fuck up.
spittleteets
How eloquent...
rbudrick
Eat pig dick, you ignorant useless bootlicker.
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scoutMoonDiver
The government doesn’t give a shit about habeus corpus
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WhattaMattahYou
Cops and ICE are committing war crimes.
There comes a point we need to fight back, and we're about there now.
Whitebeardthepirate
*ICE member or MAGAT shoots @spittleteets dead* "well, I'm dead now while they get to live, but at least I had the moral high ground so that means i win so there! *sticks out tongue* NYEHH!"
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MrSpookywasagoodboy2
Due process is already gone. Do you live under a rock? ICE can ship anyone out without it since around January.
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Maverickaura
What exactly do you think the step immediately after "lost the consent of the people " is?
spittleteets
Between the millions who voted for Trump and non-voting of voting age (complacency is complicity) I would say that they are still operating with consent which is why we need more allies! We have to build stronger, greater, community bonds to mobilize a grass roots movement.
Imgur argument aside, have you thought long and hard ab what you're advocating for...what it actually entails? Taking someone's life, wanting a civil war?? Hundreds of thousands died in the last one, how many this time?
MrSpookywasagoodboy2
They are taking people off the street no warrants, no due process and deporting them. They are no longer beholden to "the court of public opinion". They are deporting people that are legally here who have paperwork, even citizens. And right now the consent of the people is not via legitimacy, it is by threat of harm. What else would you call masked ICE agents with no badges and no warrants abducting people? ICE is supposedly federal, not LEO (local enforcement officers).
MrSpookywasagoodboy2
LEOs aren't stopping them. And now the budget for ICE is bigger than the Marines.
alt86er
That's what you get anyway. It's not like one prevents the other.
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