LittleLebowskiUrbanAchievers
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LittleLebowskiUrbanAchievers
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CommentMalone
That's pretty Gaiman
delab
Love the sandman
stronomer
Simple as that. Counter bullshit from someone by subverting it.
HoneyBadgersAreBadAsses
in my country we always call the person by the first name. I find strange not doing so!
alcaray
Are we enemies?
Ghlargh
In a book report or any other work you would obviously start with the full name, but then proceed with whatever works in written context. ->
Ghlargh
-> If you are writing about a single person i see no real problems in using either first, last or full name in the rest of the text.
gwaur
How about Elvis and Napoleon?
Ghlargh
You don't listen to Presley music? And have you ever heard of the Bonapartean wars?
taurondir
I have a shitty surname. I'd rather NO ONE used anything but my first name.
delab
Ok Mr. Diarrhoea
UlrichMorgan
I would correct people if they said " In Martin's seminal work Game of Thrones'. He's known as George R.R. Martin, "friends" or no
inkasep1
Also a man who drinks the tears of his fans has no friends
HamburgerWelper
Are you grading? Chicago, APA and MLA academic style guidelines all allow for last name only in text, at worst after using full name once.
UlrichMorgan
Fair enough. I would take it either way I guess. I certainly wouldn't correct someone if they gave me just "Neil".
crackblind
I once got into a Twitter conversation with Neil. I think that may have been the most impressed my son has ever been with me.
HamburgerWelper
Once I replied to one of the most wholesome and beloved people on Imgur with a movie title or something they were looking for, not realizing
HamburgerWelper
who i even replied to, then missed their reply notification by like a week, thanking me so nicely for the title and how much they enjoyed it
HamburgerWelper
I will never be free of the shame of accidentally ghosting them. When I die St. Peter will show me that before trapdooring me to hell.
PrastaryOrk
ByronGetronfree
But Shakespeare is my friend. Only we call him Willy Cockbotherer.
APassingPlasticBag
Hahaha ok +1 for giving me my new favorite name
ItHappenedInThe20thCentury
Bald Billy, as he's known around here.
HasteTheFool
Wait... Captain Shakespeare, or the wordsmith?
ragnar34
This would have amused him
GanondorfLink
His work is 90% dick jokes that we only don't get because language changed. He'd love it.
Lampmonster
And his plays first showed for audiences who ate and talked and when the play didn't amuse they'd heckle and throw food.
StrykNyne
Good ol' Billy Wiggle-stick.
billyjonas
culturally calling someone by their first name implies you know them personally.Hell,we have a saying for this’we’re on a first name basis’.
ExTechOp
I believe I am entitled to do this with Neil, as he's been a guest with us, and we've gone to sauna together.
BishlamekGurpgork
Ultimately, I think if someone says you can use your first name, most other cultural considerations can go fuck themselves.
Krakencrotch
Or you can realize that this isn't universally valid, and just ask people how they'd prefer to be called.
NickRivieraMD
doesn't seem like a workable solution for dead authors, nor for teachers grading 30 papers.
rshini
While American and English society had gotten much more casual, you generally don't use the first names of a stranger, I am doing a paper 1/
rshini
on Captain Harlock, after the introduction, I only use Matsumoto to refer to the author, unless I'm specifically calling out the 2/
rshini
commonly accepted term "Leijiverse" to refer to his umbrella of works, because I do not know the man (and now never will). 3.
FiftyShadesOfBroccoli
Doesn't always apply to celebrities. E.g., Madonna, Beyonce, Adele, Oprah. Some deliberately use their first name as a mononym. Others ...
FiftyShadesOfBroccoli
go by their full name but everyone knows whom you mean when you drop names like Keanu, Denzel, Arnold, Dwayne etc.in a movie-related context
FiftyShadesOfBroccoli
Academia doesn't mind if you use only the surname (after initial full name), but how weird would it be to use "Reeves" instead of Keanu? I …
FiftyShadesOfBroccoli
find that common usage should be taken into account. Common usage always decides what is correct and acceptable when it comes to language.
billyjonas
The relationship you have with an author/musician/director etc. is one of fan to creator, not friend…
rshini
This. This is why modern fandoms are so toxic, people assuming because someone has a twitter/FB page/Tumblr means you're besties and 1/
rshini
gives permission to act in clingy and terrible ways because they assume a familiarity that does not exist. 2/2
billyjonas
I don’t know Neil gaiman, but I love his work. I would never assume anything more than that. To do so can lead to a para-social situation…
billyjonas
which is unfair to the creator and ultimately damaging to you. It’s also just…kinda weird. I’ve got to agree with the teacher on this one.
BishlamekGurpgork
I think "Can I use your name on my book report" is a little different from "can you sign my life-size Neil Gaiman sex doll."
Tairu8
Until he said it was cool of course right?
billyjonas
Hah maybe, but that’s just Neil Gaiman being the good guy that he is
Apothecarius
"Dear Mr. Writer, my professor's being a cunt, could you help me tell them tofuck completelyoff the tip of mydick? Sincerely their student."
DickTipPapercut
Did someone say dick tip?
TI99Kitty
Student:
ameranthe
I feel like Neil's answer would have remained the same.
morninggloryshade777
What a completely inappropriate response. Class up!
SupernaturalReactions
eathotdog
Class these nutz
Aforaseem
PrfctDrk
I had to figure out why you didn't space those two words. I put them into a reply and it said 0 left, I now know why lol
slyshadows8888
Which two words ?
PrfctDrk
Err, three words. The ones that don't have spaces in between them
PrfctDrk
Also, I instead just remove apostrophes or commas whenever I need to do something like that honestly
Rogerwilco1974
You appear to have dropped these " ", " ", " ".
Rogerwilco1974
Unless I'm missing something new that the kids are doing. In Minecraft.
Rogerwilco1974
Why does this get downvoted?!
brambleramble
god damn it, that gave me a chuckle :D
TheFeralDog
140 characters
thotterpop
I think sacrifices had to be made due to character limits. I hate having to reply to my own comments. I often end up cutting/shortening it.
BenYourFriend
Seriously. So many of my problems would be fixed if I had like.. 300 characters. Or even just 250. Or anything more than 140.
jimplaysgames10
What if it was 142?
BenYourFriend
That would allow me to add a period once in awhile
PandaWaffleking
150 is just such a weird and low character limit.
BenYourFriend
It’s actually only 140, but I reckon that’s a typo. And yeah, 140 characters sucks ass. Have to use bad grammar to say what I want to say
IAimtoMisbehaveNotLikeThatOtherSpacePirate
Absolutely
ohdearohdearohdeer
.
CardeasIV
AxelBeingCivil
Outstanding.
ThePastmaster
Neil Gaiman is one of the few people I can name as an author but I have absolutely no idea what he's written.
Ansph
Lord of the Flies, Lord of the Rings, To Love a Lord, and the Barenstain Bears.
SpaceballsTheComment
Coraline, The Sandman, co-wrote Good Omens. And so much more, he's a busy boi.
euphoricopportunity
He wrote "the queen in emerald" or something like that. Great Old Ones take over the British monarchy.
MoonrockTopping
The Ocean at the End of the Lane, so good!
PragmaticPrimate
I've had that book for a long time before I read it and I've somehow forgotten everything in it. I do remember his other books thought.
MarioBoon
Lots of good comics. Some decent books.
jherazob
This is my favorite little thing to send people when they ask who he is: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vQC0QVXa33o
NorfolkEnchantsmate
Brilliant.
ItHappenedInThe20thCentury
The Sandman comics are what made him famous, but he's written a TON (especially non-comics) since. And it's all really good.
enderite
He’s like a modern.. brothers grim in a lot of ways. Lots of myth usage in conjoined ways. Dark fairy tales but not for kids It’s good shit
Goldensands
You should give him a go, mostly decent stuff.
thereitis101
He’s one of my favorite writers. I love his writing and imagination. Take the time.
PoodyCZ
I'd go with American Gods
MarioBoon
Curiously: I couldn't bother with that one.
PragmaticPrimate
It's a rather peculiar book. Very meandering storytelling. I did like it but I get why people don't
HaniiPuppy
Sandman, Coraline, and Good Omens w/ Terry Pratchett are the ones that immediately come to mind for me.
writeteachquiltrepeat
He’s also written Odd and the Frost Giants for kids who like Norse mythology. Odd goes on an adventure with Odin, Thor and Loki iirc
OhFarts
Good Omens
ExTechOp
With the late Sir Terry Pratchett, GNU. http://www.gnuterrypratchett.com/
CrazedDrifter
Stardust, Neverwhere, Anansi Boys, The Graveyard Book.
servingmytimeinusersub
The graveyard book was so cool
TheBestKindOfCorrect
Stardust has a fantastic movie with A-list actors that somehow no one I know nor I had ever heard of until I stumbled on it in Netflix
Phoenix0rion
(1) So every time I see his name its always in a positive way but I couldn't tell ya what's he's from. Then a Youtuber I watch did a video
Phoenix0rion
(2) critique on some films by Neil Breen, and in my mind the wires got crossed and I assumed one Neil was the same as the other guy, so I
Phoenix0rion
(3) would see a post about Neil Gaiman and think "well his movies are crap but at least he's a cool dude" and they're 2 different people lol
DeadeicPrints
Also, who tf (other than Japanese) calls ppl by their last name?
nadiadybex
Never call your boss or any hierarchic superior by its first name, by doing so you're erasing the power structure and playing their game.
anonymkonto
We have multiple people with the same first name where I work so we refer to each other by our last names makes it easier on everyone
SwashbucklingForJustice
In formal writing? I would think all.
thatiswhyyoushoulddoityourself
Professionals. Doctors, nurses, etc. (In Canada) we aren’t supposed to go by first names unless it is asked of the patient.
biogeofanatic2
We have three Jacob's and four Andrew's at my job. They've gotten used to being called by their last name
sharievan
In Germany, it's tradition to always answer a phone call by saying your last name, and only your last name.
Enoan
I have two friends named Isaac and I call them by their last name to avoid confusion.
Elvirana
I (German) offer my students to call me by my given name, but mostly the ones from eastern European countries are uncomfortable with that.
DisgruntledFerret
Schools go with formal address. Mr. or Mrs. or Professor surname. Likewise if you're in a suit and tie talking to other people with ties.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
I generally do if in a formal setting or correspondence.
jmtpl1973
I've got a very common first name, but a very distinctive last name, so I get called by my last name very often.
thelastmelt
How ridiculous it would be if they did!
LaronX
Most of Western society in any polite and/or professional context.
ILikeRespondingWithWillSmithGifs
I call a lot of people by their last names because first names are so common I know like 8 Mikes, 5 Chris’s, and only one Dick all at work.
MysteriousAsTheDarksideOfTHEMOOOOOOOOOOON
Military, sports, friends, coworkers w the same first name, the medical field, students, and teachers
Ajdamus
In Europe I would say everyone who is not your friend?
ChicaFoxy
We were raised not to refer to non peers by their first names, there was also a lot of "Don" and "Doña" involved as well!
HasteTheFool
In some places in southern Spain it's the other way round. Only friends call you by your surname (but with no title).
ThePastmaster
At my job; if there are more people with the same first name. We have three such pairs.
Snooj
Anyone talking about sports players. And anyone talking about movie stars use the first and last.
Gaelwyn
Talking about someone is different than talking to them. I may say Joe Biden when talking about him, but it’d be just Joe to his face.
tarnok
Professional courtesy would be Mr. President unless you his family/friends imo
Gaelwyn
The specific subtopic was talking to celebrities, not in a work environment.
tarnok
President is always president... 🤷🏼♀️ Even after they leave office
blumpk1npie
>thefrench
SidewalkWidflower
I think most Latin countries use Mr/Ms/Dr/(other title) Lastname rather than first name too
Zixtank
It's very common a lot of places outside of Japan too. The US, Great Britain and Spain are some of the more well-known counteies.
adiving
Absolutely nobody anywhere in the UK called me by my last name. I was without any exception adressed with my first name. Not that I mind.
ImaginaryMamboNumber5
Never been in the military? Job centre? Court?
adiving
Nope nope and nope. Did apply for a job once, was called Bob as well, dude introduced himself als Andrew.
OliverOtter
Romans. Caesar's first name was Gaius; Julius was actually his last name. Caesar was a formal sort of nickname we don't use today.
Somnophobe
There are still formal nicknames we use today; most I can think of off the top of my head are military and relate to job position or rank.
WilliamHuskerAdama
It was a hereditary cognomen. Not a nickname. It identified his particular branch in the family tree and was first bore by his great grandpa
PoorSucker
In Thailand everyone has a nickname, nobody is called by their firstname or lastname. I'm Pii Nuat (mr moustache)
iwishidpickedabetterusername
I think the teacher means that the author should be referred to as Neil Gaiman, or Mr Gaiman, but not just Neil.
Greenlightsmith2814
Neil says otherwise. Neil is my friend too!👍🏻
pirinal
Actually in a book report just Gaiman is probably the standard.
pirinal
I mean nobody ever said - I quote Mr Shakespear here
wiltsjunk
Famous authors? Do you refer to them as Ernest or Hemingway? William or Shakespeare?
tarnok
Williams greatest works include "the storm" 🤣
KingXizor
Ms. Weaver, Mr. Anderson, Mrs. Obama, Dr. Fauci, Gov. Richards, Gen. Sherman, etcetera.
Zeterai
His name... is Neo.
executivechimp
Neil
BavarianBarbarian
Germans. First name basis is only for friends and some only use it in private, i.e. Martin Müller is your friend but also your boss /1
BavarianBarbarian
so that'd make it Herr Müller or Müller at work and Martin in private. /2
ThomasThundersword
even in settings in the US as well. we can be generally less formal. and us younger gens (X and millennials, and i suppose zoomers) are>
ThomasThundersword
even more relaxed about it. but especially in work settings the formality remains.
Gaelwyn
It depends on the industry as well. Everyone I work with (in MarTech) is just referred to by first name, including customers.
RaineGrae
Lots of people. I usually call my mom "just" which is a short of her last name. My family often call me by mine as well (i have my dads).
RaineGrae
Its sort of a family tradition i guess. Although, my parents were military so idk if that has something to do with it. its not uncommon tho
tarnok
You tell me Daddy 😏
ThatTransformersDude
Daddy chill
Ezekiel117
First name Daddy, second name Cool
DeadeicPrints
Someday son, when you're old enough.
SlickWithaLimerick
Good Morning, Son.
IcyFlash2
Totters
But I'm into it.
AllMaktAtTengilVarBefriare
In Sweden you can do either, I'm usually called by my last name.
doesntmatter
We definitely do not regularly refer to people with their first names unless we know them. Authors generally gets referred to by their ¹/
doesntmatter
full names, then last name, then first name if specivity is needed. ²/2
Gcleff
I mean, when talking about famous people (authors/actors/musicians) I don't think I ever just use a first name. It sounds weird to me
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16bitStarbuck
Don't hurt yourself digging so hard. Yikes.
Alozar
Those are called mononyms and it's what they are known by professionally. Most people are not. Also half of those aren't their names.
Gcleff
graehall
Hah, good sass
RePete21
Most of those are stage names
WilliamHuskerAdama
Are ANY of these their actually names?
samwyze
Oprah
WilliamHuskerAdama
Actual. Damn phone
PrastaryOrk
Quite a lot of people. In many countries it's considered rude to call people by their given name, especially in formal situations where
pxlphile
Also in scientific publications.
VEEJNAS
Yeah I believe those are stage/professional names, at least that’s what my famous actor friends Tom and Chris tell me.
PrastaryOrk
/2 it can be downright offensive.
Lichelf
I believe he asked for specifics.
Carnifici
An yet "po nazwisko to po pysku" stil exists X"D
PrastaryOrk
As well as "Ja się z panem na jednym gównie nie ślizgałem". Ah, the many pitfalls of social interaction.
COLONELOBVlOUS
But western countries though?
Xman102003
Mr. This or Ms. That. So yes we just add an honorific in front but use their last name
COLONELOBVlOUS
We don't do this in Norway. Pretty much use first names, unless in specific circumstances.
PoorSucker
Every military I know.
ArchMagos
The standard in the military even if you've got a last name like "Dicks" used exclusively with rank if they're a Seaman.
PoorSucker
What if your lastname is major and is only sergeant?
PoorSucker
In Finland sergeant major is "millitary master" much cooler. My millitary master was wounded 7 times between 1939-1945 vs the Russians.
SpitMatt
Every academic ever. You try calling an academic by their first name in a university as a student ;)
CrazyCatLad
It was kinda 50-50 with that at my college. Even our school president, also a priest, wanted to go by his first name.
WilliamHuskerAdama
In Norway that's completely normal. Calling my teacher by their last name would be weird
GabbyJayYay
Our dept actually encourages that, as it removes that barrier of teacher-student & become more of colleagues that can learn from each other
GabbyJayYay
² The newbies that refer to faculty as "professor xx" or "dr xx" get the weird looks lol
SpitMatt
Not in here lol. Our academics are a bunch of elitist pricks :(
GabbyJayYay
Other depts be like that tho. Academia is full of massive egos. Im glad im out of that world
HamburgerWelper
Future me after earning a PhD, trying to stay true & fight the sadistic urge to make everyone call me Doctor
Gaelwyn
Doctor Hamburger it is then!
wired314
There are loads of situations where surname formality is necessary but in my experience 99% of my professors actually hated it
Gaelwyn
What’s an example where it’s necessary, other than when distinguishing between two people with the same first name?
SpitMatt
Citations, during lectures, conferences, formal emails and letters, minutes of a meeting, so on and so forth
SpitMatt
And lord have mercy on your soul if you get their title wrong (Dr instead of Prof.)