ILiekMudkipzALot
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Seriously, though, just trying to "get my foot in the door" has been a figurative bloodbath.
I do take some blame, I know I'm missing certain skills in everything I look at, but also I know I can't (and shouldn't) be everything for everyone.
I could go on with my sob story, but I know I'm definitely not the only one in this endless loop from hell.
Giganotosaurus
My nigga you gotta fake it till you make it
usercide
Education should be subsidized (based on grades/performance) by companies that you get work experience at as part of your schooling. GL!
The701
Trying to get your foot in the door is a bloodbath? You should get some for some heavy ASTM-F2413-compliant leather workboots.
hwyckoff
Apply anyway. Some of the minimum qualifications are written by hr folks who don't know what's really needed.
AnaBraysBathWater
"Entry level job with entry level pay. 3-5 years experience required" I feel you fam.
ILiekMudkipzALot
SO MUCH OF THIS.
jewelz996
"Hi, we want a person with 5 years experience for an entry level Jon: $20k/yr".
TruthHammer
This is what you get when everyone goes to college because of garunteed loans
Wargamez
Apply anyways. You'd be amazed how many companies will at least interview you to see if you're as smart as you claim to be.
Devious11
Go to tech school, I got a job in the field before I even finished my first year.
TechnicalDrift
This. We need skilled labor, not business grads. Not even engineers/scientists.
jerryyouidiot
Well, we need a balanced society, although my Alma mater's biggest program was business and it became overbloated with students
bowerdotjson
Internships create jobs and count as experience if you're in the right field.
mkyner
No, you are literally the only person in the world who can't find a job. Ever.
bobmarlylooter12
I've only heard negative things about college, but everyone keeps going. I'm glad I didn't go
topdollar38
That's because the people who are successful from going to college don't feel the need to complain about it
bobmarlylooter12
True
rdbcruzer
I started at the bottom of the food chain in IT on an internet helpdesk. Got me the experience I needed. Now I have a damn good job.
WilliamMorrislikesCoins
3 weeks post college, have a job. Apply for everything. Send out 20+ resumes a day if you must. Jobs are out there
ILiekMudkipzALot
I've seen varying advice on that in terms of quantity vs. quality. I do have a general resume, but people say to customize them to each job
WilliamMorrislikesCoins
Send as many of your general out everywhere. I blindly sent mine out and got calls the following day. Just research the company after.
WilliamMorrislikesCoins
Make sure your resume mentions you are a college/university graduate. Companies do like the fact you committed for so long.
dery0780
LIE YOUR ASS OFF SIMPLE FAKE IT TO YOU MAKE IT
personaminor
aka commit fraud
dery0780
aka everyone does it.
chellebelle0234
I worried about this in college, but the company I hired with right after grad (and still work for) has spots specifically for college hires
kmfcm
I want to know if anyone uses the trump argument and it actually works. Real shit. Became president with no political experience at all 1/2
kmfcm
Motherfuckers want you to have 3 years experience to be a fucking admin?
ClickDummy
I'm an engineer in computer sciences and got several long internships (total 12 months) during my studies. I think it made a difference...
owenwilsonsgoat5
I feel like giving up because of this :(
ILiekMudkipzALot
Depends on where you are in the process. Still in school? Start looking for summer internships REALLY early. Like now. Or yesterday.
owenwilsonsgoat5
Graduated and left uni about 7/8 months ago. It's tough :(
ILiekMudkipzALot
I'm in a similar boat. Considering freelancing to gain experience here. Keep at it!
whatsthemattawcha
Thats why i didnt go to college. May take some years but you have to start at th bottom and prove yourself.
CapBoxHead
Ha ha ha! Wait until you get to the "Your over qualified." Speech!
tooomanysteves
Had both :(
ILiekMudkipzALot
Can't wait :,)
sunnytater1
I remember I got one of those. "You'll get bored by month 3 and leave. Thanks though."
Bundacious
Ye. They are the best ones.
completelyandtotallyperverted
Most, not all, of the people that have the experience started under the position they wanted and moved up into it after learning it 1/
completelyandtotallyperverted
hands on from the person above them. Many companies want you to work up, not start at the top and work sideways.
ILiekMudkipzALot
Working on the "foot in the door" part. Like I said, figurative bloodbath. There end up being 3+ staffing companies on a job before I see it
dlarrydlarry
Sure, but when you can't even get that bottom level job without experience you're pretty well screwed
OinkOinkalot
This is actually a serious problem, jokes aside. New graduates without experience should be offered opportunities to get experience and 1/2
DADNoodlePrince
Most universities offer internship programs, not a serious problem in my mind.
SloppyJimbo
Isn't that what an internship is for
StrangelySexee
Luckily I've acquired the fucking unicorn of internships. It pays.should graduate with 2 years exp.
FatHeadedPanda
We have that in high school for practical profession, where you go to school 2 years and into a profession.
Breaker19Breaker19
... I agree I did my apprenticeship in engineering and on the application it said 1 year+ experience (from school?) how?
OmnipotentCthulu
Basically tie absolutely anything you can that you have done that can be considered close. Old school clubs, hobbies etc.
CryingButtholeLicker
What, you mean an unpaid internship doesn't sound like what you want to do?
jerryyouidiot
While you go further into debt because they don't pay you plus you will still be paying off any loans that you have accrued?
ILiekMudkipzALot
Some unpaid internships can probably work great, some are unethical at best/illegal at worst.
OinkOinkalot
Make themselves more appealing to employers
MyCatLikesToFruitcake
"Unpaid internship"
indrada3290609
Go into the right field and get paid internships
Devious11
We also need to stop just forcing kids into 4 year schools. There are serious shortages in the skilled trades.
HolyHellJezebel
I work at a vocational school. In some cases I need students to have a realistic expectation of salary and that they are entry level.
ILiekMudkipzALot
Definitely regretting dropping out of a metals class where I could have learned some welding, could have been a good fallback...
Ilikestyx
"I know I'm missing certain skills" .....
ILiekMudkipzALot
For example: job requires someone who knows A, B, and C. Prefers also having D, E, F. I have A B E & F and feel I can learn the rest.
Ilikestyx
Just keep applying and make sure your resume reflects your capabilities and willingness learn :)
ILiekMudkipzALot
That's the plan! I also try to take some initiative and at least learn the basics of what I'm missing through online video classes.
Ilikestyx
this is good, always make sure to list relevant "continuing education" on your resume as well ;)
amomaxia
What did u study?
amomaxia
Was I fucking downvoted for asking OP'S field of study so I could offer guidance? Tough crowd.
OinkOinkalot
There you go
amomaxia
Haha thnx
ILiekMudkipzALot
BFA in Digital Art, minor in Computer Science. Focus was in "web art" which translates to web design/front end web development.
amomaxia
I work as an artist for a popular website. I don't know if we need people but I'll keep an eye out for ya.
ILiekMudkipzALot
Thank you! :D
GardenHoser
This is why internships and extra curriculars are so important now
CryingButtholeLicker
With how high the cost of living is, unpaid internships and extracurriculars aren't really appealing or doable
GardenHoser
Yeah I would never take an unpaid internship, employers just pass that over as a waste of time anyways.
CryingButtholeLicker
What pisses me off is they get advertised as a good option but they don't do anything except cause you to lose money
GardenHoser
A relic of job markets gone by
candiduscorvus
That's what internships can do for you.
CryingButtholeLicker
All while not making any money and still having to pay off your loans and living expenses, but yeah
IAmGodot
Depends on the industry. Our interns make $25/hour (plus overtime).
candiduscorvus
It's true, but you do gain the "experience" part for a resume.
CryingButtholeLicker
Some do. I've had a few too many friends get screwed over by a "promising internship" where they ended up just being a janitor
CChowder
Just out of curiosity, what did you go to school for Op? What's your major?
ILiekMudkipzALot
BFA in Digital Art and minor in Computer Science. Focused on "Web Art," which translates into web design/front end web development.
ILiekMudkipzALot
Art major is its own problem, doesn't change that a CS major in the same field is going to get the same lack of truly entry level jobs.
bobbiebush
I'm a software developer, mostly back end granted, but I'd work on trying to get a more programming focused internship/job.
bobbiebush
I worked 2 internships, $10/h and $17/hr. I was able to get a job locked down 6 months before I graduated with that experience.
bobbiebush
And since I've been working full time there's been options to move to more front end type work. You just may have to settle for a bit.
getoffmyprofileswan
I think a big issue with our generation is we aren't all that loyal. An employer puts in the effort training is straight out of college and
getoffmyprofileswan
About the time that they are going to start to make back their investment in us we up and take a better paying job elsewhere. It's just how
getoffmyprofileswan
Things work now. We are loyal to ourselves. Not our employer. Nobody expects to work for the same company for 30 years anymore. We have
getoffmyprofileswan
401k's. Not pensions.
ILiekMudkipzALot
That kind of thinking could also do a lot of harm, though. Refusal to train could easily create a shortage of those with experience later.
getoffmyprofileswan
I agree 100% it's a cyclical shit situation. Employers don't value inexperienced employees and college grads feel they are worth more
yeahidontknow
What field are you looking to get into?
ILiekMudkipzALot
Web design/front end web development, preferably. But I've been searching for anything that's junior level with Web in the name recently.
yeahidontknow
Sadly I know nothing about that industry so I can't offer any help
Asparagusto
Do you do any side projects outside of class? That can help...
ILiekMudkipzALot
Have some that aren't so relevant, working on some that are. My client for the current one is my dad though, which employers don't like. :/
SpatialAnomaly
Msg me with your portfolio and info if you're considering freelace work. I'm a CD at an agency, I might be able to give you work.
ILiekMudkipzALot
Will do, thank you!