Dec 27, 2022 12:03 PM
ProppaGanda
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OhCrapIDidntMeanToPickThisName
Looks an awful lot like the Rust Belt.
umbabrahattasil
As someone who grew up in a spot like this, who has an aunt who still lives in said spot, there are plenty of parks/places to go in the city
TheActualFBI
Is that Russia or UK? Really can't tell.
anjeleyezjr
Outside is where the people are. THAT is depressing. I'll stay in my sanctuary, thank you kindly.
QuicheAdvisor9
When I go to these places, this is exactly what I mean when I say “It’s got Soviet vibes”
ReverseSyzygy
fwiw: There's a LOT of this all across the US as well
madeejit
"I have a mortgage so I don't have to be outside."
spagecko8888
Probably still more walkable then your average American suburb
Oh, for sure.uch has been done to worsen the situation since the 80s, but still it's something.
wobblecopterrrr
What’s going on with the parking‽ one dude is half up the curb, other guy managed to have like 3 feet of space and still be in a handicap…
Poland. People park everywhere, however they want. I had the city guards on a speed dial before moving out.
certainlynotaserialkiller
"welcome to city 17"
SmilingNid
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/825155431562215435/1057224089493839872/tJuia8q.jpg
derzoomer
Not gonna lie, but this is a very very depressing view
trikucian
Like every where else it needs more trees! Trees are always better
Noodlesocks
It always surprises me. There's a lot of this in the UK. They look miserable from the outside but usually quite pleasant in the actual flats
yourcommentisstupid
That's the fucking point
OverzealousDude
Idk. I got my first bj in a communal laundry room in the basement of similar looking apartment buildings.
Pummelallthethings
Western Europe too. I thought it was UK.
Filanwizard
the stucco could use some attention but hey look those must be newish windows.
SaFalken
"Welcome. Welcome to City 17. You have chosen, or been chosen, to relocate to one of our finest remaining urban centers ..."
armandraynal
If that's half-life 2 I wonder what the segregated blocks of the US would be, with the crack, gangs, lead in the water, police brutality ...
cjandstuff
Grew up in the projects in the US. Like this, except all houses were one story. At least we had bikes.
sammyismycat
billymaditsdone
I wonder if some art could help, like allowing artists to paint the buildings, bright colors, sculptures, a playground...etc
Yes, but caring for common spaces is communist and in Poland we've overthrown communism to be rugged individualists like in US. Freedom!
Churchofthesubgenius
@OP I literally thought, this looks like the old Polish Blocs, I grew up in one of these til I was 4-5
itstheendoftheworldasweknowitandifeelfine
My view had more goats.
goumich
I remember growing up in the Detroit suburbs and how beautiful it was going out in the sunny skies! That was a good day.
mistermixelpix
Mom means go out and socialize. Even in poor areas being social is a good thing
BonafideHomicide
What, you mean with... Strangers!?!?
marsgoose
Nah, last time we socialized something we ended up with these dreadful buildings that keep dropping stucco on our heads.
That and a car that has carbon monoxide poisoning as the only option for climate control.
LoopStricken
Yeah cool, i'll just go out and socialise with... the noisy druggies from two doors up. Or the noisy druggies across the road?
The ones across the road might be child abusers, or their kids are just very loud and dramatic, hard to tell.
Raikupath
Except when people in your area generally only ever stay within their own circle and never really let a stranger into it.
That's because everyone is pretty much locked inside. The idea is that everyone needs to get out more.
I think that is actually a more general problem with people who reached a certain age. The older you get the harder it gets.
NauseousPanda
Or drink like fish
NineByNine
I grew up with that whole stranger danger bullshit and then people want me to go outside and make friends with randos, what the fuck
gamer2k4
It's almost like growing up has given you experience/judgement you didn't have then. Do you still hold an adult's hand to cross the street?
Telling a 6yo not to get in a car with a stranger is wildly different from "go out and make friends" how are you struggling with this
it's a bird, it's a plane, no it's the joke sailing right over your head
userfriendly19777
No grafitti as far as I can tell. At least it has that going for it which is nice.
It's a bit surprising because grafiiti is generally everywhere and it's 80% nazi/antisemitic shit mixed with football clubs.
CreatorAtNight
Tbh, grafitti could make this place look a lot better. If done the right way. Would also help bringing people together and have fun.
NiedzwiedzMike
I was in Poland and Germany this summer - there is graffiti everywhere. There was no graffiti 20-30 years ago from what I remember.
thedudeman519
Could also be parts of Upstate NY or PA
honestly, 80s UK up north looks a lot like this.
...granted for that matter so does up north right now in certain places. hm.
frenofafren
Only slightly worse than some Scottish housing schemes.
Selgiarc
Here I was coming to say the same
FrankensteinsFreckles
I dunno, I'm pretty sure that's Coatbridge.
qwertdeep
I thought it was a council estate in North West England at first
bobstrange
It looked like a one I live near in North East England TBH
einthedog2
Oh mam, I grew up up in Eastern Europe and lived in Scotland. I was thinking some of those estate flats were not at all terrible back home
BeerCir
Yea very similar to Inner city Irish housing estates, no different to where I grew up in Dublin.
WildSquirrelBrothel
What are "housing schemes"? Are they apartment complexes for low income people?
Europhoric
Yes
Crimx42
Fix it
Racealistic
https://youtu.be/ft23OqcldqY
72tter
Yea, please inspire the world to work on infrastructure without approval, training or safety gear, and make ‘em pay for it as well.
AntRam95
“You have to do better senator, you have to step up” - an idiot
MostlyWhelmed
Is Mexico paying for this as well?
ByronGetronfree
?????
Poland? Preferably by demolishing everything and starting anew.
Yeah, problem is that's what happened and rebuilding well was more resources that weren't there. No clay for so many bricks now.
jnmjnmjnm
They tried that in the 40s and again during the 70-80s.
TheAziz
And again in the 2010s
Looks nicer than Detroit.
I mean, US cities are in general their own category
ThorinNL
some new or colorfull paint would do wonders.
PwnageHobo
Ah yes, let's all paint buildings we don't own
Oh, Poland has that covered too
That looks even better than my city (living in Rotterdam, NL).
Oh poor Rotterdam, hurt so badly by postmodernism.
hahaha, yeah
At least the croquettes are on point.
push2play
Basically what my Warsaw neighborhood looked like in the 80s. Still had loads of fun outside. Best childhood ever.
eggmuffin
A fair bit of good planning went into the Soviet neighborhoods. Plenty of amenities, for all ages, within walkable distances.
mehmeup
Because childhood is not about materialism and having loads of money.
UmamiMama
And Brooklyn, Harlem.. thanks Regan
trojaSpaceBandit
Hey me too! I was born in 81. My building was a yellow mustard color. Everything looks dramatically better now. Almost unrecognizable.
vegivamp
How many have you had?
RR2net
The same situation in my neighbourhood in Zgierz, near Łódź, Poland.
Hezd
Guessing it's probably also your only childhood ever
FailedCrate
Sucks that Poland looks more and more like Germany 1933.
Same! I spent my summers in Poland. It looks much better today, but that didn't matter, we spent all of our time outside having fun.
I commented earlier, I grew up in one of these (thought taller) in Wladislaw Slonski, hadn’t been there in 40 years and recognized it
BondHaimBond
Same thing, only in Ukraine.
DerpinaSVK
Same but Slovakia
nicilaskin
I am from East Germany we had apartments like that , I was almost never home ... that is what it looked like , but we always played outside
pennarsson
Hoyerswerda represent!
agermanguy
Oh lol.
DedoLebeda
Same, but in Yugoslavia.
U just gave away your age! Don't worry, Yugoslavia still existed when I was a kid also. I just wanted to point & laugh at somebody! Lol!
BlurrySnowWhite
Skopje calling <<≤
Такуѓере.
And it still looks like that in 2022.
phelian
I went to Warszawa few weeks ago, really liked it! Currently learning polish even because I want to see more
Hemelsblauw
A lot of buildings were cleaned up in the zero's. Looked way better.
RobotMenace
Seen similar all over the world and when looked after they're great.
Yes, most apartments are not big, but not bad either. We stayed at a friend apartment in such a building in 2010. Not bad at all.
Mandarinduckmama
It's all in your perspective, not really in the setting.
texscot
How much money have you invested in Warsaw, Poland, or Eastern Europe in general?
Magjee
I buy games on GOG so a few dollars here and there <3
Currently I am, but mainly in the Baltic states because they have the euro. First buying złoty is not my thing.
ZiomalZParafii
Always funny to see Poland put in Eastern Europe while it sits west of the center.
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mikeatike
You personally?
Pimparoo3
No but they consider ever dollAr their country invests as being stolen from them personally
Quite a lot, considering I payed taxes there for nearly a decade
camn333
*Looks at what you got for your investment* That's a pretty bad RoI to be honest.
abacab87
I was there in the Spring and was really impressed with the country. Warsaw has it's downsides as any large city. It was still clean unlike
950d0chief350
It was even better before Germans systematically blew it up in temper tantrum. Apparently Polish are rebuilding giant palaces just 1/2
2/2 to spite them. And I suppose because they can
That's the fun fact, they really can't afford that, but. Also, before the war Warsaw had 40.000 homeless with majority living in squalor.
any other large city. Everything outside Warsaw seemed new and cleanliness like I've never seen before.
Meanwhile Warsaw Main Station (not to confuse with Warsaw Central):
Warsaw West bus station
Wow! Spotless. None of these pictures have a single piece of trash. They do have a grafitti problem.
Warsaw Central station
OhCrapIDidntMeanToPickThisName
Looks an awful lot like the Rust Belt.
umbabrahattasil
As someone who grew up in a spot like this, who has an aunt who still lives in said spot, there are plenty of parks/places to go in the city
TheActualFBI
Is that Russia or UK? Really can't tell.
anjeleyezjr
Outside is where the people are. THAT is depressing. I'll stay in my sanctuary, thank you kindly.
QuicheAdvisor9
When I go to these places, this is exactly what I mean when I say “It’s got Soviet vibes”
ReverseSyzygy
fwiw: There's a LOT of this all across the US as well
madeejit
"I have a mortgage so I don't have to be outside."
spagecko8888
Probably still more walkable then your average American suburb
ProppaGanda
Oh, for sure.uch has been done to worsen the situation since the 80s, but still it's something.
wobblecopterrrr
What’s going on with the parking‽ one dude is half up the curb, other guy managed to have like 3 feet of space and still be in a handicap…
ProppaGanda
Poland. People park everywhere, however they want. I had the city guards on a speed dial before moving out.
certainlynotaserialkiller
"welcome to city 17"
SmilingNid
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/825155431562215435/1057224089493839872/tJuia8q.jpg
derzoomer
Not gonna lie, but this is a very very depressing view
trikucian
Like every where else it needs more trees! Trees are always better
Noodlesocks
It always surprises me. There's a lot of this in the UK. They look miserable from the outside but usually quite pleasant in the actual flats
yourcommentisstupid
That's the fucking point
OverzealousDude
Idk. I got my first bj in a communal laundry room in the basement of similar looking apartment buildings.
Pummelallthethings
Western Europe too. I thought it was UK.
Filanwizard
the stucco could use some attention but hey look those must be newish windows.
SaFalken
"Welcome. Welcome to City 17. You have chosen, or been chosen, to relocate to one of our finest remaining urban centers ..."
armandraynal
If that's half-life 2 I wonder what the segregated blocks of the US would be, with the crack, gangs, lead in the water, police brutality ...
cjandstuff
Grew up in the projects in the US. Like this, except all houses were one story. At least we had bikes.
sammyismycat
billymaditsdone
I wonder if some art could help, like allowing artists to paint the buildings, bright colors, sculptures, a playground...etc
ProppaGanda
Yes, but caring for common spaces is communist and in Poland we've overthrown communism to be rugged individualists like in US. Freedom!
Churchofthesubgenius
@OP I literally thought, this looks like the old Polish Blocs, I grew up in one of these til I was 4-5
itstheendoftheworldasweknowitandifeelfine
My view had more goats.
goumich
I remember growing up in the Detroit suburbs and how beautiful it was going out in the sunny skies! That was a good day.
mistermixelpix
Mom means go out and socialize. Even in poor areas being social is a good thing
BonafideHomicide
What, you mean with... Strangers!?!?
marsgoose
Nah, last time we socialized something we ended up with these dreadful buildings that keep dropping stucco on our heads.
marsgoose
That and a car that has carbon monoxide poisoning as the only option for climate control.
LoopStricken
Yeah cool, i'll just go out and socialise with... the noisy druggies from two doors up. Or the noisy druggies across the road?
LoopStricken
The ones across the road might be child abusers, or their kids are just very loud and dramatic, hard to tell.
Raikupath
Except when people in your area generally only ever stay within their own circle and never really let a stranger into it.
mistermixelpix
That's because everyone is pretty much locked inside. The idea is that everyone needs to get out more.
Raikupath
I think that is actually a more general problem with people who reached a certain age. The older you get the harder it gets.
NauseousPanda
Or drink like fish
NineByNine
I grew up with that whole stranger danger bullshit and then people want me to go outside and make friends with randos, what the fuck
gamer2k4
It's almost like growing up has given you experience/judgement you didn't have then. Do you still hold an adult's hand to cross the street?
mistermixelpix
Telling a 6yo not to get in a car with a stranger is wildly different from "go out and make friends" how are you struggling with this
NineByNine
it's a bird, it's a plane, no it's the joke sailing right over your head
userfriendly19777
No grafitti as far as I can tell. At least it has that going for it which is nice.
ProppaGanda
It's a bit surprising because grafiiti is generally everywhere and it's 80% nazi/antisemitic shit mixed with football clubs.
CreatorAtNight
Tbh, grafitti could make this place look a lot better. If done the right way. Would also help bringing people together and have fun.
NiedzwiedzMike
I was in Poland and Germany this summer - there is graffiti everywhere. There was no graffiti 20-30 years ago from what I remember.
thedudeman519
Could also be parts of Upstate NY or PA
NineByNine
honestly, 80s UK up north looks a lot like this.
NineByNine
...granted for that matter so does up north right now in certain places. hm.
frenofafren
Only slightly worse than some Scottish housing schemes.
Selgiarc
Here I was coming to say the same
FrankensteinsFreckles
I dunno, I'm pretty sure that's Coatbridge.
qwertdeep
I thought it was a council estate in North West England at first
bobstrange
It looked like a one I live near in North East England TBH
einthedog2
Oh mam, I grew up up in Eastern Europe and lived in Scotland. I was thinking some of those estate flats were not at all terrible back home
BeerCir
Yea very similar to Inner city Irish housing estates, no different to where I grew up in Dublin.
WildSquirrelBrothel
What are "housing schemes"? Are they apartment complexes for low income people?
Europhoric
Yes
Crimx42
Fix it
Racealistic
https://youtu.be/ft23OqcldqY
72tter
Yea, please inspire the world to work on infrastructure without approval, training or safety gear, and make ‘em pay for it as well.
AntRam95
“You have to do better senator, you have to step up” - an idiot
MostlyWhelmed
Is Mexico paying for this as well?
ByronGetronfree
?????
ProppaGanda
Poland? Preferably by demolishing everything and starting anew.
Pummelallthethings
Yeah, problem is that's what happened and rebuilding well was more resources that weren't there. No clay for so many bricks now.
jnmjnmjnm
They tried that in the 40s and again during the 70-80s.
TheAziz
And again in the 2010s
ByronGetronfree
Looks nicer than Detroit.
ProppaGanda
I mean, US cities are in general their own category
ThorinNL
some new or colorfull paint would do wonders.
PwnageHobo
Ah yes, let's all paint buildings we don't own
ProppaGanda
Oh, Poland has that covered too
ThorinNL
That looks even better than my city (living in Rotterdam, NL).
ProppaGanda
Oh poor Rotterdam, hurt so badly by postmodernism.
ThorinNL
hahaha, yeah
ProppaGanda
At least the croquettes are on point.
push2play
Basically what my Warsaw neighborhood looked like in the 80s. Still had loads of fun outside. Best childhood ever.
eggmuffin
A fair bit of good planning went into the Soviet neighborhoods. Plenty of amenities, for all ages, within walkable distances.
mehmeup
Because childhood is not about materialism and having loads of money.
UmamiMama
And Brooklyn, Harlem.. thanks Regan
trojaSpaceBandit
Hey me too! I was born in 81. My building was a yellow mustard color. Everything looks dramatically better now. Almost unrecognizable.
vegivamp
How many have you had?
RR2net
The same situation in my neighbourhood in Zgierz, near Łódź, Poland.
Hezd
Guessing it's probably also your only childhood ever
FailedCrate
Sucks that Poland looks more and more like Germany 1933.
NiedzwiedzMike
Same! I spent my summers in Poland. It looks much better today, but that didn't matter, we spent all of our time outside having fun.
Churchofthesubgenius
I commented earlier, I grew up in one of these (thought taller) in Wladislaw Slonski, hadn’t been there in 40 years and recognized it
BondHaimBond
Same thing, only in Ukraine.
DerpinaSVK
Same but Slovakia
nicilaskin
I am from East Germany we had apartments like that , I was almost never home ... that is what it looked like , but we always played outside
pennarsson
Hoyerswerda represent!
agermanguy
Oh lol.
DedoLebeda
Same, but in Yugoslavia.
WildSquirrelBrothel
U just gave away your age! Don't worry, Yugoslavia still existed when I was a kid also. I just wanted to point & laugh at somebody! Lol!
BlurrySnowWhite
DedoLebeda
BlurrySnowWhite
Skopje calling <<≤
DedoLebeda
Такуѓере.
ProppaGanda
And it still looks like that in 2022.
phelian
I went to Warszawa few weeks ago, really liked it! Currently learning polish even because I want to see more
Hemelsblauw
A lot of buildings were cleaned up in the zero's. Looked way better.
RobotMenace
Seen similar all over the world and when looked after they're great.
Hemelsblauw
Yes, most apartments are not big, but not bad either. We stayed at a friend apartment in such a building in 2010. Not bad at all.
Mandarinduckmama
It's all in your perspective, not really in the setting.
texscot
How much money have you invested in Warsaw, Poland, or Eastern Europe in general?
Magjee
I buy games on GOG so a few dollars here and there <3
Hemelsblauw
Currently I am, but mainly in the Baltic states because they have the euro. First buying złoty is not my thing.
ZiomalZParafii
Always funny to see Poland put in Eastern Europe while it sits west of the center.
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mikeatike
You personally?
Pimparoo3
No but they consider ever dollAr their country invests as being stolen from them personally
ProppaGanda
Quite a lot, considering I payed taxes there for nearly a decade
camn333
*Looks at what you got for your investment* That's a pretty bad RoI to be honest.
abacab87
I was there in the Spring and was really impressed with the country. Warsaw has it's downsides as any large city. It was still clean unlike
950d0chief350
It was even better before Germans systematically blew it up in temper tantrum. Apparently Polish are rebuilding giant palaces just 1/2
950d0chief350
2/2 to spite them. And I suppose because they can
ProppaGanda
That's the fun fact, they really can't afford that, but. Also, before the war Warsaw had 40.000 homeless with majority living in squalor.
abacab87
any other large city. Everything outside Warsaw seemed new and cleanliness like I've never seen before.
ProppaGanda
Meanwhile Warsaw Main Station (not to confuse with Warsaw Central):
ProppaGanda
abacab87
Wow! Spotless. None of these pictures have a single piece of trash. They do have a grafitti problem.
ProppaGanda