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#Flint
Mar 5, 2017 11:40 PM
RickMorty
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#Flint
usernamesaretheworst
Also want to point out that they recently had to start paying their water bills again. for poison water.
indecentorc
Just a reminder I don't care because it doesn't affect me and I'm American I don't support foreign relations with Michigan.
Talligan
He's a guy with a sign. Do some actual reading on the subject
mjmdoodledog
It is unbelievable that this has happened to our own people.
Findthevegan
Trump will sort it out. I mean, nah, you're fucked.
DoublevBomb
It's a repost, but a highly relevant one.
APunnyComment
So clean it already sheeesh
Goomba92
Is there an address one could send a pallet of bottled water if one were so inclined?
RickMorty
On their website https://www.cityofflint.com/how-can-i-help/ there is a place to send it to, call first to set up a time for the delivery!
awakeasleep
Best country in the world right?
Jomini001
It's in the process of being fixed, and residents are provided free filters and bottled water. It is going to take time to replace
Jomini001
All the pipes in people's homes. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/24/us/flint-michigan-water.html?_r=0
Jomini001
These posts help nothing but disparage the efforts of the EPA and emergency management types who have been and are helping.
5knotcans
Get Michael Moore on the case and maybe even his wife Demi Moore.
JohnathanJacobJinglySchmidt
Don't forget their twin daughters Mandy and Mary Tyler Moore
OnePingOnly
Grandaddy Roger?
EyeTri
Not Flint resident. County commissioner used Flint as an example. He said that's what happens when you let people keep their lead pipes. 1/2
EyeTri
Bat shit crazy. He genuinely believed the Flint water crisis was caused by residents who refused to renovate their homes. 2/2
kustomkirk
There's clean water in space!
MenaceToSobriety
Is it in the process of being restored? Are the temporary fixes still helping tide them over until a permanent solution is in place?
philonius21
Get the EPA onto this... Oh, wait...
Promethianfire
Well yeah but they're poor and black. Surely the problem is with their culture....
MasturbatingLurker
But we need a bigger defense budget
awesomemango20
DoublevBomb
He knows:
awesomemango20
That's hilarious
duttry98
There's always Centralia, Pa
DignamWhenAskedaQuestion
Get this to the front page again.
Lerg22
Flint has been a hell hole well before 2014. You've always been fucked if you live there.
queenelizabeth
We tell immigrants they should stay in their home countries and make them better rather than coming to America. Why not apply this here?
MrTay
False they are loosing subsidized bottle water because the drinking water is testing at safe levels
fant0maz
HugVendor
Someone's trying too hard...
Steelballsofstill
Thats cruel and i like it
CJR83
MrBearington
Spadvemmy
What movie is that from ?
MrBearington
I want to say page master but I'm not sure
AddNapalm
NotFunMagnet
Flint, its like Detroit, but worse.
galadrl2meetu
You should head to Mid town, downtown or Corktown. Indian Village, Palmer Woods or the Rosedales. Young people live living there.
NotFunMagnet
Thats why I said flint was worse.
galadrl2meetu
I think Flint had a few things. Thy updated downtown. The Whiting is pretty nice. The old homes are beautiful. But now? Yeah.
galadrl2meetu
I guess that's the point. Pontiac is working on a comeback. Detroit is halfway there. But Flint seems doomed.
NotFunMagnet
100% agree.
AeddonLlyr
Remind me, how long has Flint been run by Democrats?
msu14hockey
Seeing as all this happened while the city was under Republican state control...
JohnathanJacobJinglySchmidt
So the state government came in and said "Nah, fuck this city, we're over-riding the city government to fuck their water"?
TheGame21x
Pretty much. Republican Gov. Rick Snyder appointed an Emergency Manager who could go over the city's head.
galadrl2meetu
And the governor's cheif of staff is married to a Nestle waters exec. They wanted to privatize the new system.
IWillHelpYouWithPuns
I mean, basically. It's much more complicated than that
honestb
Kind of, yeah. The city went bankrupt and the state imposed an emergency manager.
msu14hockey
It doesn't help that the state's own bad history of managing a budget (going back to Engler) means they're super spotty on meeting revenue
msu14hockey
sharing obligations with local municipalities. It puts hard off places like Flint in an even worse fiscal situation.
jackofonetrade
Why would anyone choose to live in a place that cant provide you with,or that you cant obtain,clean water? Is moving a complicated solution?
mjmdoodledog
They may not have the ability to do so.
JudgeMentalCat
Moving is complicated because to move, they'd have to pay off their mortgages... you can't sell a house in Flint
JudgeMentalCat
You can't sell a house that has dirty water, and even if you legally COULD.... Who the fuck would buy it?
pgarc90
Well, you could. You'd just have to disclose it. And then it's likely no one would buy it.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
Even if you don't have a mortgage, if you sell now, you lose everything.
JudgeMentalCat
Yep. Because of how the current system values $ more than humans having safe drinking water, they have to stay
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
We'll never attain equity, humans are incapable of it.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
Not to reason to stop striving for it, of course.
Doridan
Yes, they do(ish). Study in January 2017 determined that levels for the city were within acceptable limits.
ismyusernamereallyimportant
I'm only willing to believe the water in Flint is safe if the person saying it is safe is letting their kids and pregnant wife drink it.
10ftmidget
Lead in drinking water from lead pipes may not be as poisonous as the tetraethyl lead they used in gasoline, but it is still poisonous!
chillidogger
I have family in Flint. They were all given filters too for their faucets. It reduces the levels to below the limit. Still fucked though
GElliot
Generally, except for citizens downstream from active work. They also pay many times more for occasionally "acceptable" water.
Shoutrr
if you don't want to fix a problem, just change the "acceptable margin"
circlebreaker
*finger quotes* Acceptable levels of toxicity have now been reached *party noisemaker SFX*
Ajn2016
Considering the same people think there is an acceptable limit for Fluoride, I'm not buying it.
DrMcTouchy
Hey guys, I found the conspiracy theorist!
LungsofThunder
Cuntard
did jenny mccarthy tell you about the evils of fluoridated water, too?
Fairbas
This made me laugh out loud .....Dr Jenny lol
kustomkirk
IneedtochangemyusernameandIguessthiswillhavetodo
trololo is the fluoride making you susceptible to mind control or what?
frostycry
Just a reminder that San Angelo Texas has been without clean water since 1987. They say it clean but it provides you with kidney stones and
queenelizabeth
Same here in Phoenix. Chromium 6 causing cancer here since > 1996. No one has given any meaningful shits at all.
frostycry
in some liver and kidney cancer. Have a good day!
shootingstars5
Sources?
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shootingstars5
This says the water is safe & contains study facts from environmental agency, I fail to see how this supports your claim
frostycry
So far only finding news reports. Trying to compare water reports from city to city to show the discrepancies.
shootingstars5
Found some information on chromium 6 as stated by another commenter, but only that the EPA is investigating it & still no confirm that the1/
shootingstars5
Area in question is, in fact, high in chromium 6 https://www.epa.gov/dwstandardsregulations/chromium-drinking-water
shootingstars5
Meta-analysis indicating Cr6 may pose a human carcinogen risk http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/tx200251t#/doi/abs/10.1021/tx200251t
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shootingstars5
This simply states that they are using chromium and free chlorine as a water sterilant, still no facts on negative effects??
frostycry
OH! I also forgot, the clinic there had to order special kind soap for us / with the marching and sweating. The water would cause rashes.
shootingstars5
But... in a study conducted across the US, San Angelo wasn't even indicated as a city testing positive for Cr(VI) - check out the map 1/
shootingstars5
http://www.ewg.org/research/chromium-six-found-in-us-tap-water
shootingstars5
http://www.ewg.org/research/chromium-six-found-in-us-tap-water 2/2
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shootingstars5
Opinion articles are not facts nor are they reputable sources
frostycry
When I was down there for tech school at Goodfellow, I received 2 kidney stones in 7 months and a fellow Airman had to be put on casuals
frostycry
(janitor) because he had overgrowth on his kidneys because of the high concentration of chlorine, salt, and fluoride. The doctors labeled it
frostycry
as cancerous and he was put on casuals to undergo the removal of the growth.
shootingstars5
Here's a great in vitro study indicating that, while Cr(VI) can cause issues, our body's natural mechanisms prevent issues in large % of 1/
shootingstars5
Population - please see fig 1 white arrow, nearly 100% of people can effectively repair damage caused by levels of Cr(VI) found in US H2O 2/
shootingstars5
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0167503
Hear7Breaker
If the Pubs have their way, Everyone is going to be without clean water. Hooray for dismantling the EPA!!!
Hypercube9
Who goes to the Pub to drink water anyway? Yeah, beer!
BigTex1
You do realize that flint has been led by dems since the 1970s right? (I.e. The people responsible for Flints infrastructure and citizens)
Hear7Breaker
The water crisis was caused by Governor Rick Snyder when he appointed two unqualified people to find new water sources. Please look it up
BigTex1
1/2 I can't find anything on him causing it. I can find it started when the city of flint decided to swap water supply to the flint river
Hear7Breaker
http://time.com/4269300/flint-task-force-report-water-crisis/
LMeire
I thought it was because of road sat raising the water ph and dissolving the pipes.
BigTex1
2/2 do you have a link to a reputable site saying he caused it? The first involvement I found is when he signed a relief bill.
BigTex1
Here is the link straight to the findings: http://www.michigan.gov/documents/snyder/FWATF_FINAL_REPORT_21March2016_517805_7.pdf
Hear7Breaker
The actual findings are linked in the article. Enjoy!
BigTex1
1/3 I read the executive summary (not going through all 116 pages before bed) of the findings and will concede the governor played a part
BigTex1
4/3? Only 140 characters sucks.
BigTex1
2/3 in prolonging it however it states the Michigan department of environmental quality (MDEQ) and the EPA are at fault. The EPA for
BigTex1
3/3 delaying enforcement of the led and copper rule. The state appointed emergency officials fucked up big time as well.
mitcheal31415
I gotta ask, why do citizens stay in Flint? It seems like there's no more economic opportunity to be had, why stick around?
Apeofdeath
Low income population
OrionDax
I've heard there's like 49 other states!
LimitDoesNotExist
"I always wonder why birds choose to stay in the same place when they can fly anywhere on the earth,then I ask myself the same question"
LimitDoesNotExist
~Harun Yahya
MikeMcAwesome91
It's my understanding that the only people with unclean water are the ones that refuse to update their pipes.
overunderwhelmed
msu14hockey
Most of them can't exactly afford to. Also probably a lot of shady landlords who won't do it for rentals.
INoLongerCareBoutThisName
Can't really sell a house that you own, can you?
thegazastripr
You're probably white.
Zoltar666
And you're afraid of change?
goirish86
extreme poverty
goirish86
It saddens me that people could be so ignorant that they can't logically answer this question
mitcheal31415
Damn dude, honest question
goirish86
Honest*
goirish86
What's honestly about implying that it is either cheap or easy to uproot and move your family to a different area when stuck in poverty
mitcheal31415
At what point did I ever imply that? Besides, drastic times. I think it's reasonable to uproot if it meant access to clean drinking water
goirish86
Sorry it just seems like you're simplifying a complex situation
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
If you own a house and you can't sell it...
GanjalfTheGray
...Do they really think they will ever be able to sell it at this point?
ShuvitpumpkinWrecker
That's when your parent given you a million dollar loan. You'll be fine .
dav3nasty
the house would be worth shit now. Lose all equity because the government fucked you over?
mitcheal31415
Well, cut your losses, yeah? If the situation is as bad as it sounds, the house wont ever be worth anything. At least, that's my conclusion
overunderwhelmed
I really hope you're not an adult.
Youreatowel
If you're paying a mortgage there's not a way to cut your losses if the house won't sell.
mitcheal31415
Default? Declare bankruptcy? I know thats a shitty solution but its a shitty situation to be in
WhatsTheMatterBeavis
Do you not know how things work? If you default even if it's not your fault no one will give you another loan for a home. Renting is easily
thisisatemporaryusernametest
It ain't cheap to pull up roots and leave. They're stuck in a vicious cycle.
buttoncamus
Whoever is downvoting this is seriously testing my faith in Imgur right now
jarjarbinkswasthebestcharacterinstarwars
Hah, what idiot has faith in Imgur? We're all idiots and assholes here. If I were you I'd try have faith in something more worthwhile
LuxCaelum
As an imgurian and an asshole myself, I agree.
buttoncamus
You do raise a good point...
NotFunMagnet
Well, flint was shit before, now this makes it even worse. Nobody is going to buy a house, and people in flint cant afford to move.
GeorgePotompkin
You'd be surprised, there's a lot of good things going on in Flint despite current setbacks.
NotFunMagnet
Like what?
GeorgePotompkin
Kettering, UM, Mott, Hurley have all been putting resources into the area; GM Truck Assem. has added more jobs and downtown is growing.
DoesItThough
https://youtu.be/J_7qlkOb1aY