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This will probably die in usersub, but that’s okay. I just need to talk about it. I have a rare clotting disorder— Von Willebrand’s Disease. I had an appointment with my hematologist a few months ago to discuss potential risks of getting the Covid vaccine. I’m on a medication that helps my blood coagulate more easily, and the risks of an interaction between the vaccine and my medication are currently unknown because no studies or trials exist. My anxiety has been through the roof for the past 2 years because of the virus, and I’ve still been wearing my mask daily and social distancing. Basically, I was told I would be at a higher risk for developing blood clots or other issues if I choose to get vaccinated. I’m so over this shit, and seeing people post about how anyone who’s still unvaccinated is a piece of shit. SOME OF US CAN’T GET VACCINATED SAFELY. I don’t care if this gets downvoted to Hell; I’m just beyond frustrated with those who are fully vaccinated lumping those of us who aren’t into one big, hedonistic category.
twinkwtp
Please realize when we say we hate the unvaxxed, it will NEVER include those who have no choice. We want them to think of those like you. <3
TheCriticsWereConciseItOnlyTookFourLines
It really isn't the folks who want people vaccinated that are your problem, though
DandelionFritter
You’re not anti-vax, you’re the reason why we get mad at anti-vaxxers. Stay safe out there!
manamongstyou
Downvoted to hell? Every one of the people that have been vaccinated have, in part, done so to protect folks like you. We see you, we care.
HyperCynic
You are the reason we want those who can get vaccines to do so. Because it's those who can't that will suffer the longest and hardest.
HyperCynic
I doubt anyone who can comprehend your situation would hold it against you. Stay healthy please and we all wish the best for you.
Noved
I think I can safely speak for all vaccinated ppl - they are definitely NOT referring to ppl like you. this must be hard for you, stay safe!
BraveStrawberry
Nah, you’re fine, homez. When we Bitch about these people we 100% aren’t talking about the few people who are in fact endangered by vaccines
ApoplecticApocalypticApothecary
Did you know Von Willenbrand’s is also called “Prancing Poodle” disease? It’s also common in Briard dogs. I have it too and I’m shutting up
FoxWithSocks
Well I’ll be darned. You learn something new every day. Did you get the vaccine?
ApoplecticApocalypticApothecary
No. I’m a pharmacist, I know there aren’t any microchips in it, but risk of throwing a clot?
cakeycakes
I'm getting my 3rd booster next month to help people like you. It's all we can do. Anti-vaxx people suck and are ruining it for everyone.
cakeycakes
When I say anti-vaxx I mean people who can get vaccinated but don't want to (because facebook science).
dart223
I have raynauds and I spaced mine out by 3 months because of the clotting fear. I hope they can come up with a plan for you soon
dart223
Follow your doctor and screw what others think. I had 3 months of pissing everyone off but that what was right for me.
ILikeQuiteHeavyMetal
Is this for a specific vaccine or all of them? Pfizer rates of clotting issues are pretty much zero
twinkwtp
It's not the vaccine causing clotting that's the issue I think. It sounds like it's how the meds will interact with it. Not enough info yet.
FoxWithSocks
Exactly
FoxWithSocks
All of them
ILikeQuiteHeavyMetal
Damn, sorry to hear :(
AgnosticPaladin
Can't you get off the medication for a while, while you are getting the vaccine? Ask your doctor, maybe few weeks+ 1 dose vaccine will work.
imaginefyre
I have hemophilia, which isn't too different. I got the vaccine and I didn't even think to check with my doctor lol. Stay safe friend.
CowboyRooster
We failed you. As a species we had the choice to exterminate this virus through containment and quarantine, we wouldn't have even needed /
CowboyRooster
the vaccine. I fear our collective reaction to Covid-19 and climate change is proof we're a failed species.
Ricearoni9000
I'm sorry. Stay safe!!
Mazzy94
Stay safe.
dontyouputitinyourmouth
Hey I have Von Willibrance too! But mine is very mild and I was able to get the vaccine.
dudehiemer
When I am bashing on un-vaccinated people, I usually try to use "willfully un-vaccinated." But, in todays social media its hard to finish a
Foire
Bl4nk3t
Nailed it.
MissMittens
My partner has no immune system. He got three Pfizer shots and never built immunity. I need people to get vaccinated and mask up to protect
MissMittens
Him, but they're selfish fucks. You guys will get do sick and can die if you catch the virus, and these people don't care. We work in
MissMittens
Science labs with scientists with PhD's who hit bars with no masks and invite him to big parties with strangers. And now there's flu and RSV
MissMittens
Stay strong, OP, and safe. Some of us are doing *everything* we can to protect you. I hope the people around you love you as much as I love
MissMittens
My biochemist lover :)
Mec26
As someone who is immuno suppressed, that sucks. I hope they (and I) get to go all the places soon.
yellwfever
Well then I’m glad that I’ve received mine so that I can help protect you @FoxWithSocks
DarthWoopAss
Then I got mine specifically to help people like you to be safe..i wish I could say then let us do this for you....but people amiright?!?!
ImNotStalkingYouBTWYoureOutOfMilk
@op The UK NHS advice is that those with bleeding disorders CAN have the vaccine, but some precautions must be taken
FoxWithSocks
There’s literally no data on how it reacts with my medication (desmopressin acetate).
Mec26
Which is why I hope you stay safe and secure while docs gather a bit more data.
ImNotStalkingYouBTWYoureOutOfMilk
https://www.sth.nhs.uk/clientfiles/File/COVID-19%20Vaccination%20of%20Individuals%20with%20a%20Bleeding%20Disorder%20A5%20copy.pdf
Daxton
@OP ask your doctor to speak higher up to get you into one of those Trials, you could be the person who proves it's safe.
Daxton
They'll send off a large sample of your blood to see if the vaccine interacts poorly with it, if not you'll be approved for the trial.
FoxWithSocks
Wait… so they can just take my blood and ship it off to be tested? I’m so down for that.
Daxton
Since it's blood clotting issues, I imagine they'd just take a big bag of blood, stick the needle w/ vax in it and see if the contents clot.
FoxWithSocks
The way my medication works is by interacting with the lining of my blood vessels/ arteries, so I don’t know if it’s that simple.
goodling76
Yes please do that!!!
SirBagels
I'm about 99% certain there's more to it than just that, but that's honestly probably where they'll start as a screening process.
SirBagels
And you wouldn't even need all that big of a bag of blood either probably. 1 unit would probably be enough
Yahoodie
I have two Factor V mutations and have to take xarelto, I have no clue how similar our conditions are or what medication you take but 1/2
Yahoodie
I got vaccinated with moderna and have been fine so far, I'm not a hematologist lol so take it with a grain of salt
mksu
We know not everyone is able to get vaccinated. We're talking about those who can. With 140 characters we can't spell it out every time.
Peacht3a
I was just about to say I don’t have enough characters to explain this dumdum
yoyo42
i.e. for "anti-vaxxer" read "voluntary anti-vaxxer".
SerialElf
Nah anti vax is opposing vaccination, being unable to vax is something entirely sifferent
GeneralGinger531
Following conjugation language, people who can't Vax might be avaxxers. Not against it but not directly with it
yoyo42
I guess there must be both sides out there but it feels like want-to-but-can't is probably a high proportion.
yoyo42
Good point. Anti-vax and can't-vax are _very_ different things. Can't-vaxxers shouldn't think they are included when anti-vaxxers get dissed
hoehandleharry20500
Ok, like 1/30,000,000 really can't get vaccinated. Most a just Trumptards and full of shit.
bamcobra
Somehow I kinda think it’s more than that.
HiddenSanity
Closer to 1/50,000
Mec26
Waaay more. Transplant patients, chemo patients, a few autoimmune…. Your rate would be onluy 12 in the whole US.
AgnosticPaladin
Most of those can, but wouldn't help much, as an imunocompromised system won't generate antibodies. And then there's allergies.
StarryKitten
I get vaccinated so you, the one who can’t, don’t have to
StarryKitten
The ones **
TeeNoodles
Samesies.
FoxWithSocks
Thank you <3
StarryKitten
wolfcunt
The vaccine can also trigger a chronic flare for those with autoimmune disorders. It's worth it, but I hate ppl who belittle that. 1/2
wolfcunt
It's not the vaccine's fault, it's just how some immune systems react, and those struggling with that aren't saying they regret it. 2/2
theoracleofdreams
I had an allergic reaction with Moderna and am still getting my booster, I just have an epi pen ready this time.
AgnosticPaladin
If you switch to a different one, will that also trigger the allergy? Can't you test it before getting it?
wolfcunt
If I could test an allergic reaction on myself without having an allergic reaction, things would be awesome.
AgnosticPaladin
They do the test where they rub your/prick skin with different allergens for testing. Does that not work for whatever is in vaccines?
wolfcunt
Hopefully it goes well! heard the booster is a lot smoother but makes ya thirstier, getting the same one in a few days.
Epitaku
Von Willebrand is a bleeding disorder. It is not a contraindication to getting the pfizer or moderna COVID vaccines. The only worry /1
Epitaku
Note the National hemophilia Foundation recommends vaccination (https://www.hemophilia.org/)
Epitaku
is bleeding from the injection, so sometimes they recommend you take your clotting factors first. There is no evidence of harm or blood /2
MsAnnVeal
It makes me wonder if this is Type 3 VWD. The joint pain at type 1 sucks, I can't imagine going through the vaccine side-effects @ type 3.
Epitaku
clots from the mRNA vaccines like there is with the Astrozeneca. Is your hematologist being overly cautious for some reason?
AgnosticPaladin
From what i understood, the problem is the medicine taken for that disorder. And i wonder if they can't be suspended for a while.
FoxWithSocks
Where the concern lies is with the vaccine potentially interacting with my medication in a negative way.
TheS4ndm4n
If it does, you're probably screwed if you get actual covid. Just get the mRNA ones, they don't have known clotting side effects.
Epitaku
Nothing in medicine (or life) is 100% for sure so there will always be concerns. But overall I think it’s vastly better than getting covid!
Dark0001
But they recommend taking the DDAVP after the injection (or TXA) if needed
FuckmotheringxVampire
I feel for you, I hate anti-vaxxers in part because they make things so much harder for people with legitimate exceptions.
FoxWithSocks
I literally stay up to date on all of my vaccines… even the optional ones. I hate this. :(
GinOClock
I'm sorry you feel the pressure and I hope that people haven't been trying to make you feel guilty. It's a huge problem that people are
GinOClock
...also trying to falsify exemptions, it only adds to the stigmatizing. I deputize you to kick those people in the face
MissMittens
Or with a pipe, for social distance ;)
FoxWithSocks
Dude… I’ve had people tell me that I should just go against what my hematologist said and get vaccinated anyway. facepalm.jpg
scoutMoonDiver
Right?!? Like they did their own research about your medical condition?
SedatedPossum
Those people are stupid people. Real medical issues is why the rest of us should take the vaccine, so the people who can't have a chance.
pastelteapot
Covid isnt going away. Eradicating covid isn;t in the cards. And vaxxed people can still carry and transmit it so idk what the solution is.
alaest0r
Eradication is technically feasible. Yes vaxxed people can still be infected and spread but much lower r0 contributes to herd immunity
FuckmotheringxVampire
The only thing that prevents us from completely eradicating covid is participation
MissMittens
Because people don't know how herd immunity works. Some areas have little to know COVID because people are vaxxed and the virus has nowhere
MissMittens
To go. No hosts means no spread. If more people are vaxxed, the immunocompromised are insulated against the disease.
pastelteapot
But vaxxed people can be hosts and spread it. Vax just lessens the reaction.
MissMittens
Right. Again, people do not understand immunity or probability. If you could buy a lottery ticket that has a 1 in 4 chance of winning
skylardarkfox
Sure, there's a non-zero chance that a vaccinated person can spread it. But vaccines certainly lessen the chance.
somewhatparanoidpanda
We hate the anti-Vaxxers exactly because people like you can’t get it and they put you at risk
HandoB4Javert
Would convalescent plasma be a solution for some in this predicament?
TheMightyElk
This! My friend has it too and it sucks
roneyBugPrince
This THIS and more of This. Anti vaxxer are morons but people who should not get vaccinated for med reasons are not at all the same
l3lizzard2002
But the vaccine doesn't really stop you from getting it or spreading according to latest studies. So the vaccine only protects you.
bigdog838
does you petty reasoning for hating other people help the poster? he/she still has restrictions like all of us
Eldibs
We actually hate them for lots of good reasons, but this is a particularly good reason.
Liquid1024
Yep. This.
dmay1210
Well said...
TheSongofRiver
Yup. There is a huge difference between anti-vaxx and those who cant get the vaccine.
HandBananaTonight
Tru dat
SDev0
You'd be surprised how many people can't have the vaccine and the vaxxers immediately attack them
somewhatparanoidpanda
So you’re saying “the vaxxers” shouldn’t lump all the anti-vaxxers together, I’ll mention it at the next meeting. Jk I know what you mean.
Frozenstethoscope
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/960086. Johnson and Johnson linked to Immune Thrombocytopenia, your body attacking the platelets .
oldlampsfornew
Well put. The anger directed at anti-vaxxers is primarily due to them exposing other immunologically-vulnerable people in danger.
SeeJenJen
GinOClock
They kinda put all of us at risk, whether able to be vaccinated or not, because herd immunity is key to beating this
jhcuco
Preface: not anti-vax. Herd immunity may not be possible with the current vax efficacy and variants. Transmission is slowed, not stopped
PaintedSlate
With masks, though, it's in range. And booster dose Pfizer recently showed 95% efficacy over standard 2, which is still fairly effective.
PaintedSlate
The number will shift because despite a large sample, there weren't that many cases in the fully vaccinated group. So it was like 100 vs.
PaintedSlate
5 cases at the end of the trial, something like that. A very good initial sign.
IrateMeatAndMeatAccessories
Doesn't the covid vaccine enlarge your penis, and make your boobs bigger? ;)
whapowpow
It made mine bigger
Runkel
Exactly and i'm so tired i had to explain this to so many of these dense motherfuckers.
Briqs
While I have already gotten the vaccine and am 100% pro vax. In Ireland about a 95% of people are vaxxed and the case #'s are massive again+
Briqs
+ we DO have proportionally way less people in hospital. But everyone getting vaxxed won't help OP much since it still transmits
lafire67
How are the death rates?
Briqs
Much lower. The vaccines are helping most people. My point is everyone else getting vaxxed won't really lower the risk for people who can't