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Dorsk84
I played drums...see note..hit drum..repeat.
arkofsax
As a musician, this is just the tip of the iceberg. This is all what we consider "diatonic" harmony. The real fun stuff comes later!
HypnagogicHallucinations
Did you forget to also ask for upvotes? Cause that definitely works.
bvtthole
You can't cheat great music. Get the fuck out of here with this shit.
MaryBMan
As a music major... no.
kcrvoxtano
The extent to which this info was dumbed down and distorted makes me want to scream.
GivesMeTrills
Theory nerd here. Love this stuff!!
SalamanderJesus
As a graduate student in music... This chart hurts my soul....
doolbro
Where ya studying just finished my PhD? And it's not that bad of a chart! Haha, for beginning.
willowhoot
Some of this isn't accurate. Smells Like Teen Spirit is incorrect for instance.
kapta3nklutch
I was also confused...I don't remember that song having an authentic cadence any where. I'm such a nerd.
Right! There isn't.
wanderingangus
whoever made this has no idea about chord progressions
bestpangolin
I'm a music theory major and have no clue what I will do when I graduate
shhep
Awesome as in generic and boring?
JonTiller
This post also goes into more advanced stuff. You could write some fine unique music with the information in this post
LungsofThunder
Which does steel panther play
jimcake
Depends on the song
UrKungFuNoGood
Your girl \m/ 3:) \m/
Well eatin aint cheatin so its all good
mychemicallions
As a high school AP theory student THANKS THANKS THANKS THANKS
tiure
Hahaha this is Week 1 AP Theory. Doesn't even reach all the way to circle of fifths. If this is significantly helpful...consider dropping.
MagRowlTheForsaken
Chord progressions, I'll take em
ElDumo
i'll take am
nikolae1991
This is really just the first semester of Music Theory, and honestly like the first half of that semester.
Dominian
That's actually reassuring for me. I'm a beginner at music and I'm blown away by the things I learn about it. As long as it's well founded.
NorwegianGlaswegian
More like a few classes of it. It's also to useful also to experiment with chords: voicings, voice leading, types and progressions etc.
Yeah you spend the first 3 semesters learning the 'rules' and then the 4th semester is all about breaking them. Experimentation is key.
Pretty much. Fascinating stuff. I love classical (for want of a better term) and jazz where it can very interesting theory wise.
4non
Sorry, but this is a VERY basic description with a lot of mistakes and a lot of generalisation. Good effort, though.
Psyckotic
Honestly, it's not a terrible start for someone who isn't super musically inclined. It's a lot of information stuffed into a short post.
Iammoney45
And if your playing prog just say fuck it and throw a bunch of random keys all over over the place. Don't forget to change timesig each time
Gadzoox
*You're
AskMeAboutMyMuppetFetish
#Opeth
LargeBagel
"Write awesome music in five minutes." Please, I know all this and haven't been able to write awesome music in fifteen years.
Fat Cows Get Down And Eat Bacon
needtobetouched
Step one: learn to play guitar
SlightlyToastedPostItNotes
This is crap.
texangel7
@judgemesilently
BoeingAH64DApacheAttackHelicopter
As someone who's always been interested in writing and arranging music, thanks! Good guy Numbers McGee.
SgtThunderfistMD
As someone who just plays guitar as a hobby, this is awesome!!!!
MichaeIScott
I play guitar too! Can you explain what's going on in the first bit with Roman numerals and Adam's song?
So the numerals correspond to the chart depending on what key you are playing in.
BrandonianFlynnigan
Yeah that bit is completely wrong
For those wondering Adam's song is mostly I, IV, VI and Smells Like Teen Spirit is I guess I, IV III, VI. I mean in E it's E, A, G, C.
Oh and Black Parade just descends so I guess it's I, I7, VI, V, IV, III, II, V? But those are all of the top of my head cuz I know the songs
OSCgal
For more, google "chord progressions". There are SO MANY out there.
Well this is just the post that keeps on giving!!!!
So what's the dif between IV and iv?
Uppercase means it's a major chord. Lowercase is a minor chord. So if the chord is "G", IV is G major & iv is G minor.
Sweet! Thanks!
mulligylan
I always see a bunch of drawing tips here, not enough music tips! As a songwriter, good stuff numbers McGee
AllThingsNinja
Umphrey's Mcgee! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqhX1BZePV4
What do you mean this is good stuff? It's almost completely inaccurate except for some of the stuff with the circle of fifths.
BranOfTheNorth
Where are the drawing tips, I could use those
DarthFutuza
TinySatanicHamster
Fantastic
Perfect, thanks
Hipsterninjadropkick
Ive been writing songs for a living for the 3 years. Every session i have no idea what people are saying since im self taught.This helps
The 3 years? 3 years.
igetanxiouscomingupwithusernames
Maybe that's the band they're in. I mean, I'm part of Something Else...
pwnmercury
lmao same its pretty random when i get some mad theory and im just like "oke"
"Put some f#majno6 to colorize that quadruplet punctuation" -yes, you do that and ill throw a mean compression on that bad boy!
Seriously as someone who does know music theory, don't go off this. Some of it is ok but a lot of it is just completely wrong.
FightMeMrTusk
Circle of fifths is doctrine man. Show me a song that ignores it in its entirety and I'll take back everything I've ever done musically
DaMinah1337
Mary had a little lamb
It all just sounds like progressive metal band names to me _\w/
lindydanny
Seems to be missing crucial back cycling theory and dominant cycles.
RandAIFlagg
it's a cheat sheet
This is just the kindergarten version
if you have the elementary school and further version, let us know
Music Theory for Dummies had a better review and was cheaper than the book I had
RandomBrony
I just finished studying music at college if anyone would be interested in a post at some point? Got some good info I'd be willing to share
oh yes! Got somehow to track you :thinkfulface
snuzzbobble
Yes!!!
StinkyCup
Do(t) it, pls
monolitisk
dot.
Won't be today or tomorrow as I'm working hectic shifts but will aim for Sunday!
DorthLous
Put both version, shortcuts (like this) and as much details as you can muster, please :)
caprica007
NOW COMPLETE WITH COMIC SANS
reusablepower
For that professional look.
Dude. My acceptance letter to U Pitt's MSW program was comic sans on letter head.
heyheynaynay
https://youtu.be/OBibXwwLBts
cowashee26
*baaaaaarrrffffffff*
SarsMarsBar
Actually, all the music teachers I've had were inclined to Comic Sans. So I don't think it's inaccurate..
Not only is it in comic sans but most of it isn't true. I'm considering making a post about it because it's pissing me off.
schr610
Do iiitttt
ProfessorBlackHole
Link me when you do. Please.
CheeseIsNaturesFudge
.
ItSkeley
Dot.
Please do so. I still regret never paying attention during Music Theory..
pecc
yaplz
WhiteTern
Dut
AdvonKoulthar
K3ndrick
Do it
BarryTheWhite
Ad a bass singer looking to make some good tunes after years of nuttin much; please do. I need a refresher!
inmat
Link me, too!
bnuihj
We're waiting! ;)
Angaram
Dot
aSquirtOfSquirrel
Look back here me!
shanfyr
IMakeGifsLookGood
Kevelo
Do it = dot =.
Hodor
minivanracer
Or you could just write a modern country song with the same 6 chords they all use.
DefinitelyNotCera
As much as I agree that the vast majority of country music is schlock, people don't realize that it's the same with most other genres.
Drewstopher13
That's literally every triad naturally in a key, except the vii°. More like I, IV, V, and vi.
That's the difference between rock and jazz. Rock musician plays 4 chords for 1000s of people. Jazz mus. plays 1000s of chords for 4 people.
boopitybapity
Listen to Texas country. So much better than the crap they shit out in Nashville, it's all pop like and boring. No authenticity
JamesSayne
6 lolz. I play 2 shows in downtown Nashville daily. If it ain't Wagon Wheel or something equally brain numbing, then good ducking luck.
picsplz
As a music major, 6 is generous. More like 3 or 4.
Actionralf
give this more traction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY8SwIvxj8o
Terminus2357
JustRando
Don't forget to include the following in your lyrics: pickup truck, painted on or skintight jeans, beer, corn fields, good old days.
Cyborgbird
Workin' in the field, big green tractors, iced tea, them country girls, muddin' in a pickup truck, hidin' the fact that you're actually ok.
WarPatron
Don't forget about ball caps, the good stuff, working 9-5, two lane roads, and old guitars
FoxyApproves
...whiskey, guns, smoking, short shorts, shaking your butt, and the occasional kill your husband...
And how could we forget good old "Up, down" and "Crazy, baby" (the latter is a general cliche but whatever)
iWantATurtle
I think 6 is being generous. Ever heard the 4 chord song, by Axis of Awesome?
whohasseenthewind
Dirt road, a cold beer, a blue jeans, a red pickup. Rural noun, simple adjective. Good girl in a straw hat, with her arms out in a cornfield
Igetthatreference.jpg
That is a scarecrow. I thought it was a human woman, sorry.
askingpeopletobemyfrienduntilifindafriend
Its a fucking scarecrow again!
As a folk singer, the chords aren't the issue. Shallow lyrics are
thecolonels
Yeah, Drive By Truckers have plenty of songs that could be considered modern country but they are fuckin amazing
A lot of banjo tunes are one chord but just sick ass fills if you play old time
thoushaltnotpass
In 5 minutes, lol, it took me years to get that chart and I'm not sure I fully understand it.
Need help? Circle of fifths is actually easy with a halfway decent teacher!
Circle of fifths is ok, it's the progressions (diff between I and i etc.) that I never really fully understood.
Okay gotcha. All those progressions are is how far away from the tonic/root you go in a scale to play a chord. I'll use C for an example
To play "iv" you'd do the same thing but instead of F major, play F minor. "ivo" would be diminished and so forth. Once your learn all your
So C has no sharps, no flats. It's easy. So to play "IV", count 4 notes away (F) in the scale and play that major chord since IV is capital
Scales it's the same principal. Keep in mind C is easiest key signature to play since it doesn't have sharps or flats. Start with it.
WE NEED HELP. ALL WE CAN GET. ALSO, HOW TO PLAY JAZZ MUSIC?
Just play all the time. You can only learn jazz from practicing lots, preferably with other good jazz musicians.
Okay, so for jazz. Scales. Can't say it enough. Scales. And for gods sake syncopate.
Also practice improv and play around with accidentals a lot. They really are what give jazz its freshness.
MellowNando
I'll take your offer on help if you're givin' it!
Yeah! Okay, fuck yes. Ive never taught this before but I've been a musician for 14 years. Where are you at right now? Instrument? Questions?
Guitarist for 16 years, but composition has always been a challenge. Everything I've written is based off feeling and what sounds good.
bobdan1324
Can I get some of that too? Beginner guitarist, and by that I mean screwing around with tabs and don't even know a full song.
sure! I play piano and drums but guitar isn't any different. practice your C scale and learn its chords by ear. Keep practicing tabs too
That may be the ugliest circle of fifths chart I've ever seen but nonetheless, +1 for good very basic intro to theory info
TiniestFox
No no no. You only need four chords. I - V - iv - VI. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I if you don't believe me
hurderp
OMG
just to be correct, it's I-V-vi-IV...
Whups, yeah. Too bad no edit button.
That's the most common one but any arrangement of them works as long as you start with I. I-vi-IV-V was popular in early rock.
Yeah, but in his defense, minor 4th to major 6th isn't really great XD
In major, absolutely. In minor though iv is normally minor and VI is normally major. So if you stick to the formula in minor that's what 1/2
you end up getting. Does it sound good? All depends on how well you can write it in. 2/2
Dorsk84
I played drums...see note..hit drum..repeat.
arkofsax
As a musician, this is just the tip of the iceberg. This is all what we consider "diatonic" harmony. The real fun stuff comes later!
HypnagogicHallucinations
Did you forget to also ask for upvotes? Cause that definitely works.
bvtthole
You can't cheat great music. Get the fuck out of here with this shit.
MaryBMan
As a music major... no.
kcrvoxtano
The extent to which this info was dumbed down and distorted makes me want to scream.
GivesMeTrills
Theory nerd here. Love this stuff!!
SalamanderJesus
As a graduate student in music... This chart hurts my soul....
doolbro
Where ya studying just finished my PhD? And it's not that bad of a chart! Haha, for beginning.
willowhoot
Some of this isn't accurate. Smells Like Teen Spirit is incorrect for instance.
kapta3nklutch
I was also confused...I don't remember that song having an authentic cadence any where. I'm such a nerd.
willowhoot
Right! There isn't.
wanderingangus
whoever made this has no idea about chord progressions
bestpangolin
I'm a music theory major and have no clue what I will do when I graduate
shhep
Awesome as in generic and boring?
JonTiller
This post also goes into more advanced stuff. You could write some fine unique music with the information in this post
LungsofThunder
Which does steel panther play
jimcake
Depends on the song
UrKungFuNoGood
Your girl \m/ 3:) \m/
LungsofThunder
Well eatin aint cheatin so its all good
mychemicallions
As a high school AP theory student THANKS THANKS THANKS THANKS
tiure
Hahaha this is Week 1 AP Theory. Doesn't even reach all the way to circle of fifths. If this is significantly helpful...consider dropping.
MagRowlTheForsaken
Chord progressions, I'll take em
ElDumo
i'll take am
nikolae1991
This is really just the first semester of Music Theory, and honestly like the first half of that semester.
Dominian
That's actually reassuring for me. I'm a beginner at music and I'm blown away by the things I learn about it. As long as it's well founded.
NorwegianGlaswegian
More like a few classes of it. It's also to useful also to experiment with chords: voicings, voice leading, types and progressions etc.
nikolae1991
Yeah you spend the first 3 semesters learning the 'rules' and then the 4th semester is all about breaking them. Experimentation is key.
NorwegianGlaswegian
Pretty much. Fascinating stuff. I love classical (for want of a better term) and jazz where it can very interesting theory wise.
4non
Sorry, but this is a VERY basic description with a lot of mistakes and a lot of generalisation. Good effort, though.
Psyckotic
Honestly, it's not a terrible start for someone who isn't super musically inclined. It's a lot of information stuffed into a short post.
Iammoney45
And if your playing prog just say fuck it and throw a bunch of random keys all over over the place. Don't forget to change timesig each time
Gadzoox
*You're
AskMeAboutMyMuppetFetish
#Opeth
LargeBagel
"Write awesome music in five minutes." Please, I know all this and haven't been able to write awesome music in fifteen years.
UrKungFuNoGood
Fat Cows Get Down And Eat Bacon
needtobetouched
Step one: learn to play guitar
SlightlyToastedPostItNotes
This is crap.
texangel7
@judgemesilently
BoeingAH64DApacheAttackHelicopter
As someone who's always been interested in writing and arranging music, thanks! Good guy Numbers McGee.
SgtThunderfistMD
As someone who just plays guitar as a hobby, this is awesome!!!!
MichaeIScott
I play guitar too! Can you explain what's going on in the first bit with Roman numerals and Adam's song?
SgtThunderfistMD
So the numerals correspond to the chart depending on what key you are playing in.
BrandonianFlynnigan
Yeah that bit is completely wrong
BrandonianFlynnigan
For those wondering Adam's song is mostly I, IV, VI and Smells Like Teen Spirit is I guess I, IV III, VI. I mean in E it's E, A, G, C.
BrandonianFlynnigan
Oh and Black Parade just descends so I guess it's I, I7, VI, V, IV, III, II, V? But those are all of the top of my head cuz I know the songs
OSCgal
For more, google "chord progressions". There are SO MANY out there.
SgtThunderfistMD
Well this is just the post that keeps on giving!!!!
SgtThunderfistMD
So what's the dif between IV and iv?
OSCgal
Uppercase means it's a major chord. Lowercase is a minor chord. So if the chord is "G", IV is G major & iv is G minor.
SgtThunderfistMD
Sweet! Thanks!
mulligylan
I always see a bunch of drawing tips here, not enough music tips! As a songwriter, good stuff numbers McGee
AllThingsNinja
Umphrey's Mcgee! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqhX1BZePV4
BrandonianFlynnigan
What do you mean this is good stuff? It's almost completely inaccurate except for some of the stuff with the circle of fifths.
BranOfTheNorth
Where are the drawing tips, I could use those
DarthFutuza
TinySatanicHamster
Fantastic
BranOfTheNorth
Perfect, thanks
Hipsterninjadropkick
Ive been writing songs for a living for the 3 years. Every session i have no idea what people are saying since im self taught.This helps
Hipsterninjadropkick
The 3 years? 3 years.
igetanxiouscomingupwithusernames
Maybe that's the band they're in. I mean, I'm part of Something Else...
pwnmercury
lmao same its pretty random when i get some mad theory and im just like "oke"
Hipsterninjadropkick
"Put some f#majno6 to colorize that quadruplet punctuation" -yes, you do that and ill throw a mean compression on that bad boy!
BrandonianFlynnigan
Seriously as someone who does know music theory, don't go off this. Some of it is ok but a lot of it is just completely wrong.
FightMeMrTusk
Circle of fifths is doctrine man. Show me a song that ignores it in its entirety and I'll take back everything I've ever done musically
DaMinah1337
Mary had a little lamb
Hipsterninjadropkick
It all just sounds like progressive metal band names to me _\w/
lindydanny
Seems to be missing crucial back cycling theory and dominant cycles.
RandAIFlagg
it's a cheat sheet
mulligylan
This is just the kindergarten version
ElDumo
if you have the elementary school and further version, let us know
mulligylan
Music Theory for Dummies had a better review and was cheaper than the book I had
RandomBrony
I just finished studying music at college if anyone would be interested in a post at some point? Got some good info I'd be willing to share
ElDumo
oh yes! Got somehow to track you :thinkfulface
snuzzbobble
Yes!!!
StinkyCup
Do(t) it, pls
monolitisk
dot.
RandomBrony
Won't be today or tomorrow as I'm working hectic shifts but will aim for Sunday!
DorthLous
Put both version, shortcuts (like this) and as much details as you can muster, please :)
caprica007
NOW COMPLETE WITH COMIC SANS
reusablepower
For that professional look.
caprica007
Dude. My acceptance letter to U Pitt's MSW program was comic sans on letter head.
heyheynaynay
https://youtu.be/OBibXwwLBts
cowashee26
*baaaaaarrrffffffff*
SarsMarsBar
Actually, all the music teachers I've had were inclined to Comic Sans. So I don't think it's inaccurate..
BrandonianFlynnigan
Not only is it in comic sans but most of it isn't true. I'm considering making a post about it because it's pissing me off.
schr610
Do iiitttt
ProfessorBlackHole
Link me when you do. Please.
CheeseIsNaturesFudge
.
ItSkeley
Dot.
SarsMarsBar
Please do so. I still regret never paying attention during Music Theory..
pecc
yaplz
WhiteTern
Dut
AdvonKoulthar
.
monolitisk
.
K3ndrick
Do it
BarryTheWhite
Ad a bass singer looking to make some good tunes after years of nuttin much; please do. I need a refresher!
inmat
Link me, too!
bnuihj
We're waiting! ;)
Angaram
Dot
aSquirtOfSquirrel
Look back here me!
shanfyr
.
IMakeGifsLookGood
Dot
Kevelo
Do it = dot =.
Kevelo
Hodor
minivanracer
Or you could just write a modern country song with the same 6 chords they all use.
DefinitelyNotCera
As much as I agree that the vast majority of country music is schlock, people don't realize that it's the same with most other genres.
Drewstopher13
That's literally every triad naturally in a key, except the vii°. More like I, IV, V, and vi.
SarsMarsBar
That's the difference between rock and jazz. Rock musician plays 4 chords for 1000s of people. Jazz mus. plays 1000s of chords for 4 people.
boopitybapity
Listen to Texas country. So much better than the crap they shit out in Nashville, it's all pop like and boring. No authenticity
JamesSayne
6 lolz. I play 2 shows in downtown Nashville daily. If it ain't Wagon Wheel or something equally brain numbing, then good ducking luck.
picsplz
As a music major, 6 is generous. More like 3 or 4.
Actionralf
give this more traction
shhep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY8SwIvxj8o
Terminus2357
.
JustRando
Don't forget to include the following in your lyrics: pickup truck, painted on or skintight jeans, beer, corn fields, good old days.
Cyborgbird
Workin' in the field, big green tractors, iced tea, them country girls, muddin' in a pickup truck, hidin' the fact that you're actually ok.
WarPatron
Don't forget about ball caps, the good stuff, working 9-5, two lane roads, and old guitars
FoxyApproves
...whiskey, guns, smoking, short shorts, shaking your butt, and the occasional kill your husband...
FoxyApproves
And how could we forget good old "Up, down" and "Crazy, baby" (the latter is a general cliche but whatever)
iWantATurtle
I think 6 is being generous. Ever heard the 4 chord song, by Axis of Awesome?
whohasseenthewind
Dirt road, a cold beer, a blue jeans, a red pickup. Rural noun, simple adjective. Good girl in a straw hat, with her arms out in a cornfield
minivanracer
Igetthatreference.jpg
whohasseenthewind
That is a scarecrow. I thought it was a human woman, sorry.
askingpeopletobemyfrienduntilifindafriend
Its a fucking scarecrow again!
mulligylan
As a folk singer, the chords aren't the issue. Shallow lyrics are
thecolonels
Yeah, Drive By Truckers have plenty of songs that could be considered modern country but they are fuckin amazing
mulligylan
A lot of banjo tunes are one chord but just sick ass fills if you play old time
thoushaltnotpass
In 5 minutes, lol, it took me years to get that chart and I'm not sure I fully understand it.
FightMeMrTusk
Need help? Circle of fifths is actually easy with a halfway decent teacher!
thoushaltnotpass
Circle of fifths is ok, it's the progressions (diff between I and i etc.) that I never really fully understood.
FightMeMrTusk
Okay gotcha. All those progressions are is how far away from the tonic/root you go in a scale to play a chord. I'll use C for an example
FightMeMrTusk
To play "iv" you'd do the same thing but instead of F major, play F minor. "ivo" would be diminished and so forth. Once your learn all your
FightMeMrTusk
So C has no sharps, no flats. It's easy. So to play "IV", count 4 notes away (F) in the scale and play that major chord since IV is capital
FightMeMrTusk
Scales it's the same principal. Keep in mind C is easiest key signature to play since it doesn't have sharps or flats. Start with it.
ElDumo
WE NEED HELP. ALL WE CAN GET. ALSO, HOW TO PLAY JAZZ MUSIC?
BrandonianFlynnigan
Just play all the time. You can only learn jazz from practicing lots, preferably with other good jazz musicians.
FightMeMrTusk
Okay, so for jazz. Scales. Can't say it enough. Scales. And for gods sake syncopate.
FightMeMrTusk
Also practice improv and play around with accidentals a lot. They really are what give jazz its freshness.
MellowNando
I'll take your offer on help if you're givin' it!
FightMeMrTusk
Yeah! Okay, fuck yes. Ive never taught this before but I've been a musician for 14 years. Where are you at right now? Instrument? Questions?
MellowNando
Guitarist for 16 years, but composition has always been a challenge. Everything I've written is based off feeling and what sounds good.
bobdan1324
Can I get some of that too? Beginner guitarist, and by that I mean screwing around with tabs and don't even know a full song.
FightMeMrTusk
sure! I play piano and drums but guitar isn't any different. practice your C scale and learn its chords by ear. Keep practicing tabs too
FightMeMrTusk
That may be the ugliest circle of fifths chart I've ever seen but nonetheless, +1 for good very basic intro to theory info
TiniestFox
No no no. You only need four chords. I - V - iv - VI. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I if you don't believe me
hurderp
OMG
4non
just to be correct, it's I-V-vi-IV...
TiniestFox
Whups, yeah. Too bad no edit button.
Psyckotic
That's the most common one but any arrangement of them works as long as you start with I. I-vi-IV-V was popular in early rock.
TiniestFox
Yeah, but in his defense, minor 4th to major 6th isn't really great XD
Psyckotic
In major, absolutely. In minor though iv is normally minor and VI is normally major. So if you stick to the formula in minor that's what 1/2
Psyckotic
you end up getting. Does it sound good? All depends on how well you can write it in. 2/2