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An Indonesian man , publicly caned for having gay sex, in Banda Aceh Indonesia . Accused of having broken sharia rules and sentenced to 85 strokes of the cane. (Photo by Chaideer Mahyuddin/AFP Photo)
And this is after the neighbors reporting to the religious police of these two guys indulging in such an act. Here a Sharia law official whips the second guy with a cane. Indonesian police have detained dozens of men Sunday through raids (Photo by Heri Juanda/AP Photo)
OkramTheBarbarian
In East Germany , there were also snitches , it's what the authority used to control, neighbors snitching on neighbors.
AnanomalyMoose
And some people deffend this in the western world. Yeah ok go live in deerborn for a month see how that works out for you.
Goldensaremylife
Nosy neighbors!
LooseyGooseyBrett
That's better than being stoned.
AsthmaticSeal
He has to show his face, but the person who's doing the caning gets to hide his face. I guess he won't have to explain this to his children.
DavyJonessCousinsFriendsRoommatesDog
unicorninmypants
Separation of church and state
Buckbeak1486
The guy(s) doing the whipping is/are homophobic cowards since they aren't showing their faces.
Stuey1221
I think his original 85 strokes of the cane are what got him into this situation on the first place
TrapperGinHawkeye
Well played.
kessi
Love is love. :( this hurts to see.
kackeohnesahne
Even if you're straight, you'll get the same punishment for having premarital sex. Shame
rowdypup
What's funny, is in third world Afghanistan, the big saying is women are for kids, men are for pleasure. Big ole hypocrites.
AMIMI89
Disgusting. Shameful. Religion disgusts me.
phoenixsphinx
Live in a Muslim country get your ass whipped for being human. Sadly no news
AllHailTechnoViking
Live in mormon territory and get your kids diddled. No news there either.
LoudBirb
Well, live in one of the 33 provinces of a Muslim country. Specifically, the one that implemented shitty Shariah law. The rest are pretty ok
docweird
You know shit's fucked up when your country has to have a "Religious Police"...
WhenIcommentyouknowImtakingadump
The dudes in the first row look like they're seriously turned on by this
supraman2turbo
Such a tolerant religion
nachtgeist
Religions are intolerant by design, they command their followers to a strict moral code.
supraman2turbo
And religions that are much older reformed and over time have become more tolerant. Islam? Party like its 862
soapydux
Yeah man caning......changing people's minds since the 600's
anjunaspeak23
Cane the nasty people of Walmart. Don't cane those who love another human. Gay muslims are more welcome than 15tons of fat fucks w/ welfare.
BaselessRumors
Some people are into that kinda thing.
TimeToGoIncognito
So now both his back and asshole hurt.
ridingfunny
savage !
cranialpleasure
Psst, these aren't "radicals" or extremists this is mainstream Islam.
Steffn
Psst, this happened in Aceh, the only province in Indonesia to practise sharia law. So it's far off from "mainstream"
RoTaLuMe
basicly every religion if they get too much power
MissSiesta
No wonder people try to escape from Muslim countries practicing medieval laws.
anjunaspeak23
I completely agree. Even as an athiest, I love most others for being a respectful individual. I hate bigotry and fear mongering.
TheSlavViking
And the best part is they bring their shitty medieval religion with them so we now have people being honour killed regularly in Sweden...
CertifiedTintinologist
LOL somebody's been jacking off to Paul Joseph Watson videos
TheSlavViking
No I just live in Sweden, I see what multiculturalism is doing everyday.
3blindmicestolemycar
Why do all beatings, whippings, guillotines, hangings and linchings have to have a weird guy dressed in ridiculous attire.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
They do that because they're playing a role. The executioner was always a hated, temporary position that paid extremely well but needed (1)
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
(2) a disguise, as not everyone in the community is in support of seeing their friends punished. They'd go after the exec not the lawmaker.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
(3, sorry) I would liken it to the guy that used to roll a cart down the alleys collecting peoples "night soil." A pretty unloved person.
SwashbucklingForJustice
Religion in general is like 50% weird guys in ridiculous attire.
doctorbees
As someone who was raised Catholic, can confirm.
ScrippyChan
Frankly, he's fortunate he's not fucking dead.
Goldensaremylife
How did the neighbors know about the gay sex?
OfficialSponsor
His apartment was fabulously decorated of course
Jomini001
All it takes is an accusation.
ohdeepthought
Today one of our Australian senators wore a burqa to parliament. Classic Pauline.
EngineerZero
Did she really? What a climate change denying drongo
ImmaNeedBoutTreeFiddy
Such a cunt
RavennaMagnus
To mock Muslims, it should be pointed out. Problem is, all the other pollies aren't Aussies, so she's in by default
JoelsPerfectBabybackRibs
I don't know if mocking muslims is alright either man
RavennaMagnus
I wasn't saying it was alright. I was adding detail
JoelsPerfectBabybackRibs
Fair enough. Just sounded Like justifying to me
RavennaMagnus
Yeah, I re-read it and saw how that could have happened. But no, Hanson has no defence
friggits
FernandoRumdebum
A barbaric practice in a muslim country ? I am SHOCKED.
Lethalshroud
See, there was a debate in Canada recently regarding the possibility of Sharia law being adapted in some capacity in muslim communities. 1/3
CommanderWilliamTRiker
Why would any civilized country want Sharia Law?
Lethalshroud
I'm a fairly open-minded person who welcomes anyone who does their fair share. But when I was approached by a muslim man promoting 2/3
Lethalshroud
Sharia law, I was so close to decking him. I'd rarely been so angry.
TheSlavViking
Yeah they already have that shit in the UK, how can this shit be accepted in the modern western world...wtf is wrong with people...
SisterFister69Hitler
I will never understand why it's so hard for people to keep their religion to themselves.
MustBeThatDutchDude
Self-righteousness
SisterFister69Hitler
It should be against the law to preach to other people outside your home or place of worship. It should fall under harassment otherwise.
SpaceTurd69
what "recent debate"? where? also, it can apply to contracts and marriages and not forcing shit on people like that do in these countries.
Lethalshroud
Apologies, it was a figure of speech. I meant there were groups expressing their desire for its instatement.
SpaceTurd69
sorry, i meant the part about "I was approached by a muslim man.." that you wanted to punch. what was this guy saying and where? i know 1/2
SpaceTurd69
2/2 a lot of people in my local muslim community and they work hard to root out any shred of extremism and i wan them to know
Steelwind
Religion of peace and whatnot.
doodlemyster
Wrong beliefs in the wrong people
IronicUsername
Theocracy is the problem. The religion doesn't matter.
asmallcat
Fundamentalist Christians would do the same thing if they could get away with it. It's not different religions, it's different circumstances
ovicat
Yep, just like America is the land of freedom and whatnot.
hobbitbandit
At least they didn't throw them off a building. Religion of peace and whatnot.
AssassinCrab
https://youtu.be/g7TAAw3oQvg
AwkwardCouch2
The Bible says to stone disobedient children. Not saying you're wrong, just that every religion has it's issues.
Highfarm
And Christians ignore that part, I've not read the bible but my guess is thats part of the older version that isn't followed
AwkwardCouch2
Is part of the old testament which also says to stone gays. If you want to see some fucked up rules, look Kat the old testament.
imnotmattdamon
We're a bunch of socialized violent apes, what makes you think that religion has anything to do with anything?
noptic
Read up on Christians in Uganda and other African states.
Steelwind
Where did I say I liked other religions any better? Oh right, I didn't.
noptic
I ti s not a religious thing. People just need an excuse to be savages. Be it a religion or a political party or even science.
MarxismIsCool
On the bright side he is still alive.
Spacebandit
What peace ? Have you heard what's going on in middle east?
dauberjagermonster
Um... sweety, do you know how problematic that is?
Spacebandit
Honey. Too many dirty hands been in the pot.
AllHailTechnoViking
So how about Christianity? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Jeffs
ShesMyWomanNordStyle
Big difference being that that guy is doing life for a crime, and these men are supported by their laws.
AllHailTechnoViking
Give it some time. Not all Muslim countries are this behind.
Steelwind
While I have no particular love for any religion I don't see the comparison to this situation.
AllHailTechnoViking
My point is: every religion has it's extreme spin-offs. Some more successful than others.
Steelwind
I agree. I would be fine if they were all gone. Right now though there is a trend with a particular one, spin off or not.
AllHailTechnoViking
Yup. The only reason it's this successful is, that there is no powerful governing body to keep them in check. (Regret ousting Saddam yet?)
imaginaryupvote
...and the Christian God destroyed 2 entire cities (Sodom and Gomorrah) because of some gay sex.
MoonbuttTheGreat
That was a story written in a book thousands of years ago. This is a guy getting hit with a stick last week.
imaginaryupvote
So Christians do not follow the bible anymore? Got it.
MoonbuttTheGreat
Not what I said. But I haven't seen any Christians caning gays recently, have you?
imaginaryupvote
Caning, no. But punching, stabbing, shooting, electrocuting, shock therapy, etc., yes. So I guess you're "technically" correct.
AndIThinkToMyselfWhatAWonderfulWorld
You're forgetting that less than 50 years ago, electroshock therapy waa used in Western countries to "cure" homosexuality. There are still 1
AndIThinkToMyselfWhatAWonderfulWorld
People advocating the use of conversion therapy today. Hell, Mike Pence advocates electroshock too. My point is that every society is or 2
AndIThinkToMyselfWhatAWonderfulWorld
Has been like that in the past, and while we have reached a point where things are much better for gay people, some societies are still on 3
AndIThinkToMyselfWhatAWonderfulWorld
The way to that point.
Bioguy1989
http://www.snopes.com/mike-pence-supported-gay-conversion-therapy/
LoudBirb
Yep. Like that Alan Turing guy. He was a hero that happened to be gay. What reward did he get for that again? Chemical sterilization? Oh...
HiddenSanity
Ironically, the moment that Sharia law is enforced, the enforcers and lawmakers are in violation of Sharia law.
ButtsandBewbs
Religion of peace only if you follow all of its rules and define peace the same way as it's authors - goes for every religion
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parabolic000
You're thinking of Singapore, dude. Asian cultures aren't interchangeable, don't be a racist.
skothu
Well then Singapore does it. Or did maybe. I was 11 when that story broke, clearly didn't remember it well
parabolic000
Singapore canes people for offenses, yes, as do many southeast Asian countries.
Pilotdog68
For goodess' sake.. Misremembering a fact about a country is not racist.
skothu
Indeed. That was back in 94 apparently when that kid from the U.S. got caned for vandalism.
parabolic000
Misidentifying 2 countries that are 3000+ miles away kind of is. Greenland and Italy are closer together than Japan and Singapore.
parabolic000
And if it was just a misremembering of which clean, modern Asian country caned people, GOOGLE IT before posting.
Pilotdog68
Literally so what. He remembered incorrectly. Get off your arrogant horse.
AssassinCrab
He said a wrong fact, get off your high horse
charmandeur
Despite religion and stuff— Indonesia has 33 provinces and only Aceh Province had super extreme sharia law. We other 32 are chilled.
vindik8or
That must be why the Governor of Jakarta was convicted of blasphemy. Because everyone was chilled.
charmandeur
And medias are always one sided. Reporting false fallacies and opinions so bystander believe the targeted lies ;6
charmandeur
Oh it was nothing to do with religion. It's a hidden agenda by other politician. And what's best tool to stir mass? Bring religion into it.
charmandeur
Anyway i dont give a crap to politic scenes and not lean to any politician. Just sick of people mixing religion (personal thing) to politics
NullPointThrown
All sharia law is extreme...
charmandeur
yes, and this one is super extreme.
IHateyouIfyouremoreattractivethanme
Well now I know which province not to visit... The other 32
DuckAwardGod
Nice claim. False however. Irian Jaya more killed than chilled I'd say.
charmandeur
To put it in context specifically, i was talking about canning.
antillesw1
It's cause it's where pepper came from. Spicy stuff.
charmandeur
I never heard canning as punishment happened outside that extreme province though. Just to add additional information.
IATTM
Thank you for the inside information, it's always nice to hear from someone who lives in the country that is being talked about.
charmandeur
^_^ thank you!
charmandeur
My point is Not All Indonesia looks like this. This canning located on Aceh Province, at the far end of east part of Indonesia.
vindik8or
*west
ridingfunny
bloody hell worse than animals. these dumb islamic extremists. this is supposedly their means to heaven ! good luck with it assholes.
msmzrn
rather than extremist its more to 'Aceh is the Corridor of Mecca (history stuff) why as special goverment we cant have islamic law?' so
msmzrn
the government allow them but they got overboard (blindly adopt everything) and the ppl become more pretty petty-minded...
msmzrn
i read news how other official esp home affair ministry reject the whip execution (theres also a case of pregnant felon) but idk the rest
borringnumber
indonesia is usually held out as an example of "not extremist islamic country" by islamic apologists; reza aslan and people like him.
CertifiedTintinologist
That's bc the US funds them like they do Saudi Arabia. Any Muslim country that is of direct use to US interests is "non-extremist"
SlowClapLikeYouMeanIt
The western world is only a few generations past this... if even that.
eatened
Many Islamic nations used to be past this ca. 50 years ago. :'(
BoomIgotyourwalletBoomIgotyourphilliestickets
Possibly behind even these days
AstroColter
We don't stone people or whip them in public and haven't for hundreds of hears. We're a ways away from this barbarism.
AllHailTechnoViking
How about all those pastors perpetrating child abuse?
vinnyk
There were lynchings in the US until the 1960/70s. Forced sterilization also well into the 20th century. Not as far as we like to think :(
Whatyatalkingabeet
mate I have been trying to explain to this guy for about 30 posts he dosnt get it.
Dagordae
We really are not. Look what happened to Turing, one of the greatest war heroes of WW2.
Whatyatalkingabeet
1952 is not that long ago mate a wife beater got 20 lashs they also permitted this till 1972 get you're facts right.
yzmotoxer807
Yeah, a wife beater. An act of violence. Different than an act of love receiving the same punishment.
Whatyatalkingabeet
source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_corporal_punishment
corrcorr
These are not extremists. This is the religion.
hollllllandia
What's the difference? It's all the same in Islam. Extremism IS their religion.
ridingfunny
ahhh.. yes. you're right.
AssassinCrab
"radicals are the minority" https://youtu.be/g7TAAw3oQvg
AllHailTechnoViking
Just as all Christians stand for child abuse?
doctorbees
Wat.
AllHailTechnoViking
Every religion has it's problems. Some bigger than others.
doctorbees
No no, I wanted further explanation on that specific claim you made.
ShesMyWomanNordStyle
Keep reverting to the same old false equivalency
Bluurain
I mean, if we /really/ wanted to draw equivalency... Crusades, much?
Euffy
What about all the Muslims who find this shocking and abhorrent? What are they then?
AssassinCrab
Here they are https://youtu.be/g7TAAw3oQvg
SwashbucklingForJustice
Moderates. And theyre the ones we need to be supporting so they can change the religion from within.
FreeStevenAveryAndGiveMeFloofs
Silent observers.
AmatureSpaceCowboy
Euffy
Are you kidding...? There are LOADS of Muslims who speak out. There have been marches and protests. They rarely make news, but they happen.
Euffy
There have also been Muslims speaking out specifically about the fact that the marches have been ignored by Western media.
Jomini001
Oh ridiculous. The majority of muslims certainly don't condone this kind of thing! That's why it's only the law from Africa to the pacific.
madjackwastaken
As opposed to christian countries from Jamaica to Uganda to the Solomon Islands where you're just thrown in prison...
Jomini001
Found the apologist! Pro tip: jailing, whipping, and executing gay people is bad. The biggest offenders here? Islamic countries.
madjackwastaken
I mean I'm not really apologising. The situation for LGBT in many Islamic countries is shit. The situation for LGBT in many christian (/?)
madjackwastaken
is also shit. The situation for LGBT in Buddhist majority country Burma is also shit.
Jomini001
The comparison is ridiculous. It's false equivalence. In majority Christian or western nations such treatment is the exception whereas in
Jomini001
Muslim countries its the rule. You don't have to cherry pick some poor or backward ass Muslim country to show gays being beaten or murdered