Jul 14, 2018 3:05 AM
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thejamesjuice
bike is the real idiot here, well past the stop line so technically in the box and the pillar on the car probably kept them from seeing bike
rostit
Biker fucked up
Nolly2k
he didn't skip a fucking beat
chastidy
Dude was SO far over the line.
SamSane
Hit and run into run and hit
tesrym
Haha the PT's front left quarter panel already has a dent before crashing into the bike. This guy has done this before.
ritscheratsche
I don't know about the US but in Germany if there's a line at stop sign that is where you have to stop.
lokitoki81
Yeah, but ppl cant randomly hit you with their cars if you dont...
Meusernamegoeshere
Same in the US.
VoyagerWasTheBestTrek
yes but once you've come to a complete stop, its usually acceptable to approach the intersection for better visibility. Ive seen those 1/2
lines as far as 15 feet back from the cross road. No way to get a complete view of traffic like that
PaulieCarbone
There are plenty of idiots, both car drivers and bikers
boblawblawz
Biker was in the wrong, he stopped past the stop line.
Alexander717
Old people shouldn't be allowed to drive...
nirach
Eh. Biker is riding a sports bike. Hot headed. No leathers or protective upper body clothing. PT driver's a dumbass, but the biker's a cunt.
rltoms949
Okay, how about I do something that could cause an extremely adverse effect on your life, from my negligence, then we'll see your reaction.
myrightsbeforeyourfeelings
The biker was way over the stop line. The biker had it coming.
And riding a sport bike with very little protection is super safe? This biker's a bundle of stupid in a helmet. He's luck it was just this
Crunples
This man looked elderly the bike was in his blind spot shit happen when you ride bikes
Roslya
Fuck this kid, he shouldn’t have been that far out. I think that kid should have to pay for the window. That was crazy absurd!
cozzlecoz
What a psycho
He's not though. A psychopath has no feelings. That dude felt a lot of fear and rage.
I meant the motorcycle guy acted like a psycho. It just seemed like PT cruiser hit him by accident and motorcycle guy just snapped.
Ginkawa
that PT Cruiser driver was pretty bad. feel sorry for the totally reasonable motorcycle guy though.
WanPannnnnnnnnnnnch
Oh yeah, it’s on.
Flyndaran
Pretty sure violence is only legal when in self defense, not revenge. The driver could have killed someone though.
SonOfTheShire
What, you don't think the biker could have killed someone too?
YoursTrulee
How? With a few shards of glass?
By smashing his head through a car window in a violent rage. He could have hit the driver (and he probably injured himself).
Dagren
In this case, can the rider grab ahold of the guy to keep him from fleeing? Seems logical but also, the car could have gone out of control.
ErrorUsernameNotSetToInstanceofAnObject
Pretty sure that would be assault, on top of damaging property. Proper procedure would be to quickly note the plate and call the cops.
If someone commits a crime "Hit and Run", you can hold on to them. Breaking the window isn't a crime IF the driver was fleeing.
At the speed he was going, doesn't exactly look like fleeing
I said if. Yeah, looks like he was stopping though. The window will just be a "pay for the window" by the police, no harm I imagine.
gtsr
It happened almost the same to me (but I didnt brake the window).
virtuacor
*break
z0mbycide
I mean...he didn't brake it either.
SleezyTreezy
Steak
mygfgoestoadifferentschoolyouwouldntknowher
Lake
UhhhhhNick
I dont even think the driver noticed that he hit the guy....Why are there not manditory competency tests for elderly drivers?
EdwardStarsmith
Pillar of the car hides the bike from the driver. Driver did make a lazy turn. It should have been sharper, but he never saw the bike.
Car looked like it was slowing to a stop but I agree EVERYONE should have eye exams every few years. So many people have eye issues nowadays
ruferto
actually if you watch the video, he notices the guy and turns his wheel away from the bike at the last second
100percentgenuineimitation
Probably for the same reason there are no competency tests before people are allowed to vote!
sorrycannotbraintoday
The biker's fucked. After rewatching, the car very quickly starts stopping and puts their hazard blinkers on as the biker runs at him
DuncanVliet
Blinker was already on, not sure about the stopping. Looks more like he froze and kept on rolling
Don't blame him, seeing a big dude you just had an accident with charging your car "Waterboy" style.
Calicoastin818
and now that’s assault
middlehead
Battery in most places. Assault is saying you'll hit them, Battery is doing it. Could get Weapon added on for using the helmet.
PurpleMikey
He ended up not having to pay for the window. He hit it with his hand trying to get the guys attention.
JustABonelessAlien
He didn't make physical contact nor did he threaten to.
the car driver sure did though.
kstrtroi
Lol! Let’s all start bashing in car windows, Weeeee!
I never said he was blame free. I am just saying he did no5 committ assault.
7oidberg
Judging from the thickness of the guy's lenses he must be blind as a bat
AccountCreatedToUpvoteDogs
Thank you! I was hoping for this to show up so I could get a better look at the asshole
clanhannan
Great screenshot
MaarsUltor
https://youtu.be/pfMjX97U1LM
ChernoGamma
I'll take "videos that end way too fucking soon" for $500 Alex
Siderz
Thanks, was hoping for the original so I could give a dislike. How could you feel it necessary to smash the window in of an elderly person?
TNwhiskeyginger
Of course it was a PT Cruiser.
NoFuxToGive
A yellow one, no less
usernamehasalreadybeenchosentoomanytimes
Now like PT Loser.
PossumPoop
The PT Cruiser is the worst vehicle I have ever driven. I valeted cars for 8 years during their heyday. I’m still angry.
jawscmouse
Seriously. Not the jam
CMoeBaggins
I never had a problem with PT Cruisers. Then I bought a Chevy HHR from a friend. Everyone thinks it’s a PTC... now I hate those things.
Kerberos623
To me they look like an EPA-tractor. Swedish farmvechicle converted into "moped car" . And I own one. bought from brother in law. sigh.
1coyote
A PT Cruiser with a complete idiot behind the wheel. ASSHOLE!!!
PW28
I knew one person who owned a PT Cruiser and he had wooden dentures and a glass eyeball.
Thelrishlnquistion
He wouldn’t happen to have been George Washington? No of course not. We all know what he drives:
bigdog838
Wooden dentures?! How does that even work??
MurtBaclinBFI
Stop talking smack about me
Sorry Murt.
numnumz
They should be banned. Not due to any safety issue but because they are ugly as hell
Justapartofyourimagination
They drive like pure shit too. Should be banned just like the yugo
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Blackershaman
Are they paying you? You dont have to do this
DaierMune
To be fair, PT cruisers have insanely large blind-spots
FunkyTheFox
Yeah in front of them
CekinDestroy
Cam even see through the huge piece of glass installed in front of them
fitzinimgur
alpacasaurusrex
Why is this downvoted?! My aunt had one. I HATED driving it. The blind spots were insane in the back.
Draciella
He could see him before he began the turn, then actually colliding he didn't look as if he was stopping. Besides if someone is accustomed/1
/2 to their vehicle, one would presume they are aware of its drawbacks. So taking extra care wouldn't go amiss
zsevern
That's not a blind spot issue.
BluePennMonster
No car has THAT large of a blind spot..
No, but the blind spots out the back are prettt crazy
TheRapMan
Not even blind spot Johnson, and he had a pretty big blind spot. Hence the name.
gravewolf13
It does. Sometimes I can't see people at all on the sides at a 4 way stop. You have to actually look around the damn pillars first.
Get a new car
Easier said than done. I have no money for that and the trade in value is worth zilch. I'm just happy I can pay the rest of my bills.
I swear they're among the worst cars made
HaberdasherInGold
Light truck*
tweakbz
Buick Aztec anyone? Rendezvous?
But CRAZY popular for some unknown fucking reason.
Lots of crap cars are. Usually because they’re cheap. I know somebody who loved their Morris Marina. It’s baffling.
They're all old people. And then there's me. Given one by my dad to drive because "he liked them". He never drove one.
ClassicSwanson
I immediately assume anyone not wearing protective gear is an idiot.
TheIrishHaveAlcoholism
He has protective gear, a helmet and gloves. You can't always dress for the slide, the sun does not mix well with heavy leather
GotHereThroughaWormhole
leather summer jackets aren't thick. textile jackets can be cooler.
I'm gonna assume you're an idiot too then.
fehyo
Tell me, do you know what heat stroke is?
Do you know what "making a bad decision" is? If you risk sun stroke or having your skin scraped off, you are being foolish. Don't ride today
You CAN always dress for the slide. If it's too hot to ride safely, then don't ride. Simple.
"boss, i can't come in to work today. it's too hot so i can't dress in leather on my only means of transportation."
So you own transportation that will cause you heat stroke if you use it??? I hired a MORON of an employee. Get a car or risk your life then.
sorry, i'm down on my luck and can't afford a car yet! please pay me until i can
GAMESTERofLOVE12
Maybe stop before the STOP line next time ass
From someone who does not know how to drive
runswithlag
Actually, you're allowed to come to a stop and then creep forward until you have visibility of traffic.
He could see traffic just fine from the stop line tho.
kerblaaaah
True, but if you creep into someone’s oncoming lane you’re still majority at fault. I don’t think that’s the case here.
DpsGoblin
Worked for a car rental company years ago, we had lots of pt cruisers. They’re not that bad with blind spots, unless you’re a shit driver.
Also with gopros the wide angled view doesn’t really give a 100% actual view that you see with your own eyes. It changes the view on camera.
IamNoOneToBeTrifledWith
Anyone have a link to the video from whence this came?
RBMK30000
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Mrgetdown
I second this
Metalhead47
4 hours and nothing? What? This vid’s gotta be priceless with the rest!
DogacMazman
You clearly see in the video, that he past the stop mark. İ wonder if there were any arrests
Efreeti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfMjX97U1LM
jameslucian
After watching that, I blame the biker for this. Look how he is almost in the other lane and well past the stop line, no room to turn
Herpadeerp
"almost" in the other lane but isn't. he pulls out so he can see past the fence. car had more than enough room to make a wider turn.
definitely didn't need to smash the guys window though
I was hoping it would be longer.
Your90sSexualFantasy
That’s what she said
rsmgod287
I’m a biker. The car is carelss but that biker is an idiot for being out that far and foolish for losing his cool for a car that didn’t flee
tavisno
i mean, its a very nice sports bike and some idiot just ruined it, while you were just trying to make a left. id say hes justified tbqh.
DocHerb87
Ya it looks like the biker lost his cool there.
Withmybearhands
Isn't the driver on his phone? Looks like he has something in his right hand
tellmeimcute
It's quick and choppy in the gif, but at the 12 second mark he drops his phone.
Jagadid
Fight or flight.
xtsnx
in the original video, the guy said the old boy didn't even realise he'd hit him, and infact wasn't stopping...
toft80
That's like that dude that says his wife is just walking into the door a lot. Never an excuse for violence!
kobrakaimf
True but can you imagine the adrenaline rush the biker is going through?
cptwott
thought the same. He shouldn't have attacked him. Now his whole case gets undermined by a criminal action
mity0k23
Nah. Dude never noticed the biker until his helmet was in the Cruiser. And you can’t make out the plate on this video. Quick thinking +1
zephyrbell
You're an idiot if you think him being in the middle of his lane is "too far left".
zombiejedediah
Yes, that just went from "insurance" to "assault".
Squirrelprophecies
Assault is what the cruiser did to the biker. The biker merely vandalized.
CallmeMefford
I agree- he put himself in the hard place. And he could have just vectored off to the right & been fine. Bad form on his part.
Wolve03
I think the PT guy had the sun in his eyes + the bike may have been obscured by the A-pillar
Glockenspieler
As long as we are clear that this might be a reason, it doesn’t excuse hitting someone. Drivers think “I didn’t see you” is an excuse
Inbreadsandwich
Its easy for you to keep a cool head behind the comments of imgur and say that. But when you are in the moment and almost die its different
AaronGodgers
This and I think that PT cruiser driver maybe should have a license if he’s to old to know he hit someone
CouchCarrot
I think he thought it was fleeing. Things are happening pretty quickly, and when that adrenaline is pumping it can be hard to see reality.
NaturalProgressionGaming
Alright... Lets have someone drive their car down the side of your leg and see how cool and calm you are.
LiterallyNothingAvailable
Gotta keep calm. Any leverage this guy had is out the window
In the window I guess?
MaliciousOnion
Been hit by a car, harder than that. Kept my cool. It's not difficult.
Ninjadel
Different walks of life for different people brother. Good on you tho
jixathejinx
I ride too. Totally acceptable. Dropped bike - busted window. Seems fair enough. He was not out too far, the car cut too close
Jonataurus
I don't think the biker was that far left.
ThomasThundersword
and, he might have been shot. even if I hit someone, if they did that with my fam in that car, id shoot first, questions later.
Ancillary
You need escalation of force training before you carry, then.
If i was alone i'd agree, but with fam in the car, not taking any chances, even if the cost is an innocents life and me behind bars. fam>all
I understand where you’re coming from, to an extent. It’s just that most people will do one bold thing and then pause. You have time to...
...deescalate, especially if you present a weapon. Plus, discharging a weapon in the car is extremely loud and a shooting is stressful...
saintdanesbaine
He literally had to chase the car on foot. that's fleeing you dumb fuck
GabbySilver
Victim blaming is not cool.
Lulabel73
I think he had the sun in his eyes. Accidents happen.
PotatoSpacer
The PT cruiser driver was only paying attention to his windshield then. I always look through that and my driver's window in a turn.
nevernoped
Doubt he had sun in his time during that entire 90degree turn
KaJuN
If you hit someone because the sun was in your eyes then you don't deserve the privilege of operating a motor vehicle.
DarthLordPotato
Woahhhhh sorry Mr.Perfect. Probably uses a cell for music while driving and preaches in his virtual life here
I do use a cell for music but I start it before driving then it stays in my pocket where it belongs.
MoopsyLD
that car would have never even hit the bike if the biker didnt pull out. that car actually turned fine so it is the biker complete fault
You are right, the bike are way over the stop line.
slipstream222
He hit a non moving object, old, high or drunk.
JessieJanson
Not to mention, he has a cam on his head, he could have just ran up behind it to get the license plate recorded. i dont think a judge 1/2
will look kindly on his actions, thats not to say the PT cruiser did nothing wrong, they did. just 2 wrongs dont make a right.
Duz2
being hit with a car not everyone things logically. Especially when being hit can mean their life. Adrenilian rush and anger combined
he wasnt paying attention and is obviously OK. His reaction is one of road rage, thats not OK even if he is upset. How does smashing 1/2
the window do anything constructive? Seems more like he was hoping to react this way given the chance. being upset is understandable though.
kylejonston92
No but 3 lefts do
CarbyAu
Your left arm 3x weaker than your right arm? 3 lefty punches to 1 righty swing!? I guess we know which hand is your science lab assistant...
Then he should have finished turning around and slammed the back of his head into the window. At least then he could claim to be right ;D
inkbladder
My wife HATES when I say this. But it always ends the discussion because she stops speaking to me for a while.
blueblurr33
I realize your right about the car not fleeing when I consider he caught up to a car.
Naiix
Angerey make go nyoom
FirstAidPoetry
My right, huh?
janeyomac
Pretty sure it's an old man in the car.
elShiz
He didn't catch up a car, the cars you see are parked further to driver's right, his lane is in fact free of traffic. Was just going slow.
TheCrowd
In the full video, driver of the PT cruiser didn’t know he hit him. Was just driving on regardless at old man speed.
jugend
Link?
Hendlton
There's no full video, but there's another video. Read the description. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyrA25ka014
Begotten
U just summed up about 90 percent of incidents involving bikes
defaulted
Do you ride? Or have friends that do? You’d have a different opinion if you did.
You mean I'd have a biased opinion?
Well getting your license involved getting educated to a degree. Motorcycle safety is pretty serious. So I’d say an educated opinion.
I don't need a motorcycle license to see how common these incidents are
Not that I am condone the riders actions, but the internet isn’t a fair representation of bike accidents.
imgurwhoreforcash
He looked like he was fleeing.
pariah76
If he was fleeing, biker wouldn't have caught up on foot
Clearly you've never driven one of those land-boats. They don't accelerate very quickly...
You can see he came to a stop
furriephillips
This PT cruiser doesn’t look like he does anything fast, so fleeing might still apply, just slowly
12GaPoopRockets
More like so unaware of any wrongdoing until the biker was within ft of his window in pursuit. But I dnt think he was stopping on his own.
JellybellyBushroot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfMjX97U1LM&feature=youtu.be
Banhammer72
Not how the video stops the moment the biker realises it's an old man?
Wow fuck the biker, I get he got hit, but that was uncool man. Dude is clearly old, doesn’t mean he is right, just means you don’t go rage
punching some old dudes car window in on him cause he takes off your front mirror.
Laserdiscmemories
Or could have creamed you entirely, or crushed your leg because your leg is about 6 inches from where the mirror is.
Who gives a fuck how old he is? Would you use the "oh he's an old man" excuse if he grabbed the vagina of one of your friends as you passed?
I’d get the fuck over it. I wouldn’t run up and head butt/punch his window in.
he didn't punch the window, he had palms open, the window was down, and they are weak like that, he was just trying to get him to stop
RagnaLoki
also wrong, he straight up HEAD BUTT that window in, and who cares if the guys old, that still looked like reckless driving on the cars part
You see the glass blow inwards dude.
bomboy23
And now you're in more trouble than the car dricer
Fillsinyourblank
Nah, hit and run is worse than the property damage caused.
He caught the car on foot. The car was stopping.
Ghost0fDawn
Fuck it, violence is the only answer some people will understand. That car didn't look like it intended on stopping until he got fucked up
..and the bike went far over the stop line.
knightmair
One could also argue its an uncontrollable flight or fight reflex from adrenaline for being hit by a car
Hmm. Fair point.
jursamaj
If you're rage is that uncontrollable, you probably shouldn't be allowed outdoors off a leash.
Lmao
It's not rage though, it's adrenaline, some people have extreme fight or flight reflexes and that makes them uncontrollable in extreme
Situations; such as getting almost killed by a car
Given that he jumped right off the bike, ran after the car, and smacked the window, 'almost killed' is an exaggeration.
It's weird that you think you've made a distinction there. It's still rage. 1/2
And even if it were a distinction, they need locked up for everybody's safety. 2/2
billymaditsdone
Dude, the reaction of the biker...amazing.
bogus1983
Adrenaline is a hell of a drug.
Starbolt81
On the floor to T1000 in 0.5 sec
Fairdinkums
After seeing it I honestly can't think of a better reaction now
TherealMRDEVIL
Man I wanna know the story so bad
BenSnow97
Source and comments: https://youtu.be/pfMjX97U1LM Basically, nothing special happened, he got the grandpa's insurance. It was an honest >
mistake, if you watch it that bar on the side of the windshield keeps the motorcycle out of view for the whole time.
Avanchnzel
A pillars man....I have almost hit a few people because they have been In line with it.
Those fucking windshields are fucking shit. Front and back, especially in the sun they have fucking awful blind spots. Aunt had one. It was
shit.
car was slowing down to a stop. looks like it was an honest mistake
NasaFakedTheMoon
An honest mistake that could have killed someone.
but didnt
minkfarm
This time.
Oh okay cool. We’ll just let this one go and wait till someone does get killed. Great idea. /s
or we could take a bad thing that happened and immediately make it into the worst case that didnt happen because that's totally fair
butsmart
and then, what happened?
LooseyGooseyBrett
He went to jail for assault
Einbrecher
The driver leaves with a moving violation and higher insurance premiums. The biker leaves with misdemeanor charges for battery with a weapon
GeneCode
I didn't see any battery. was it a button battery?
BananaJack
Good ol internet lawyer, working at walmart.
You're adorable.
Cool dude, keep posting on imgur with your imaginary law degree.
Except if you watch the video it’s clear he hits the window with his hand not head, open palm slap to get the car to stop.. it was on reddit
Sfinski
Source pls.
GodDamnItWhyDoIHaveToDoThisEveryTime
Seems like a fair trade.
sbubar
Nope. "everyone came to the conclusion he was at fault. Nothing exciting happened afterwards." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyrA25ka014
acme64
ya weapon
DannyDLC
hes dick
hypnotictommy
Dude used his dome to destroy that window
texabilly71
Talinthis
honestly it looks like his hand went through the window if you watch the youtube video
FrisianDude
I thought he did something with his arms
It was his hand, he slapped the window open palm... window was half open and it bent and shattered. Full video is clear.
LTParry
You got the link? I'm curious as to what happens next.
djk752
VictorHolm
All the videos I’ve seen on various sites cuts off right when the window shatters so I think this is it.
zmajevi
Helmet probably helped some
Craizie
And it's probably useless now.
WolnyLogin
tell that to his neck vertebrae
Tikityler
If you swing your helmet hard then go limp letting the momentum take it into the window its just gonna be the jar of impact.
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
Blunt objects against tempered glass usually don't break it. He's lucky it broke that time.
Window was half down, and he hit it with an open palm if you watch full video, it bent and shattered
davidthemonkey
He slapped it? Looks like he just nutted the fucker out of rage xD
JohnMike64
Common misconception side windows are meant to shatter, only the windscreen should be tempered.
smitmp024
This is completely false. I used to work in an automotive glass factory. I can assure you every single glass piece on a car is tempered.
Aaroneous
No. It's all tempered. That is why it shatters in tiny pieces. The windscreen is tempered and laminated.
Derp laminated my bad thanks
becauseurwrong
Aren't car windows designed to break apart with enough force, blunt or sharp, for an escape route?
Alimana
They are really hard to break when they are fully closed. I know, I had to break one with a crowbar once,it took 3 hits.
From the inside, they're curved to add strength from outside forces
Vehicle windows are thin. That helmet is harder than the glass and he hit it with several hundred pounds of force. Of course it'd break...
Worked in glass repair when i was younger. They're stronger than you think, 7/10 the average adult would fail to break with a hammer
Antelino
Well sure but a relatively fit dude that just got flooded with fight or flight adrenaline are those 3 right there.
....really? I've never broken a car window but I've seen plenty of things go through them. Figured it's the amount of force and impact area
It's the placement. Tempered glass is strong af everywhere except the edges, look up a "prince ruperts drop" as an example.
MaoZedong
It's more about where you place the hit. If the hit is hard enough and placed in the right spot, it breaks pretty easy actually.
Skywalker2416
Yup. Have tried with hammer. Didnt work. Porcelain supposedly makes reaction w glass to spiderweb it. Done that before...
Omegarighteous
Thrown a rock at a cars back window and smashed with ease aren’t they thicker than side windows?
Can't remember 100%, though they have a larger surface area so there's less strength.
Who is that fired up in a second?! Someone has road rage.
TheBlueMuppet
I would. Dude smashed my expensive motorcycle and couldve crushed my leg. Now its his turn, and im about to improvise.
I hope you can get the time off work to go to court.
Still less time than it'll take for insurance to cover my smashed bike, so it's all the same.
AuntieNelle
Adrenaline is a helluva drug.
einschtein
I don’t even think he broke the window on purpose. But then again: it’s America. Where most bikers don’t know how to drive and get pissed
by the little things. So meh.
notleftshark
He's on a broth red motorcycle that if the person was looking at all would have been clear as day, I'd be pretty fucking pissed to
I get that, when drove through an intersection into my car I didn’t run and headbutt their window.
goste
Difference is, he’s on a bike... you were in a car?
The difference is I didn’t get out and run at the other car like a psycho.
ThatsNoMoonThatsAGalaxy
Did they try to escape, and you had no other mean to quickly and effectively halt their egress?
They drove to a safe location and then hit out of their car like a normal person. You don’t stop in the middle of an intersection.
YourSincerely
I think you might be a little optimistic in that you believe everyone is sane and will stop. There are actually a lot of hit and runs
You drive around at fever pitch just ready to headbutt windows?
Orginskadots
If someone were to hit me and not stop, I’d be pretty fucking livid
thejamesjuice
bike is the real idiot here, well past the stop line so technically in the box and the pillar on the car probably kept them from seeing bike
rostit
Biker fucked up
Nolly2k
he didn't skip a fucking beat
chastidy
Dude was SO far over the line.
SamSane
Hit and run into run and hit
tesrym
Haha the PT's front left quarter panel already has a dent before crashing into the bike. This guy has done this before.
ritscheratsche
I don't know about the US but in Germany if there's a line at stop sign that is where you have to stop.
lokitoki81
Yeah, but ppl cant randomly hit you with their cars if you dont...
Meusernamegoeshere
Same in the US.
VoyagerWasTheBestTrek
yes but once you've come to a complete stop, its usually acceptable to approach the intersection for better visibility. Ive seen those 1/2
VoyagerWasTheBestTrek
lines as far as 15 feet back from the cross road. No way to get a complete view of traffic like that
PaulieCarbone
There are plenty of idiots, both car drivers and bikers
boblawblawz
Biker was in the wrong, he stopped past the stop line.
Alexander717
Old people shouldn't be allowed to drive...
nirach
Eh. Biker is riding a sports bike. Hot headed. No leathers or protective upper body clothing. PT driver's a dumbass, but the biker's a cunt.
rltoms949
Okay, how about I do something that could cause an extremely adverse effect on your life, from my negligence, then we'll see your reaction.
myrightsbeforeyourfeelings
The biker was way over the stop line. The biker had it coming.
nirach
And riding a sport bike with very little protection is super safe? This biker's a bundle of stupid in a helmet. He's luck it was just this
Crunples
This man looked elderly the bike was in his blind spot shit happen when you ride bikes
Roslya
Fuck this kid, he shouldn’t have been that far out. I think that kid should have to pay for the window. That was crazy absurd!
cozzlecoz
What a psycho
rltoms949
He's not though. A psychopath has no feelings. That dude felt a lot of fear and rage.
cozzlecoz
I meant the motorcycle guy acted like a psycho. It just seemed like PT cruiser hit him by accident and motorcycle guy just snapped.
Ginkawa
that PT Cruiser driver was pretty bad. feel sorry for the totally reasonable motorcycle guy though.
WanPannnnnnnnnnnnch
Oh yeah, it’s on.
Flyndaran
Pretty sure violence is only legal when in self defense, not revenge. The driver could have killed someone though.
SonOfTheShire
What, you don't think the biker could have killed someone too?
YoursTrulee
How? With a few shards of glass?
SonOfTheShire
By smashing his head through a car window in a violent rage. He could have hit the driver (and he probably injured himself).
Dagren
In this case, can the rider grab ahold of the guy to keep him from fleeing? Seems logical but also, the car could have gone out of control.
ErrorUsernameNotSetToInstanceofAnObject
Pretty sure that would be assault, on top of damaging property. Proper procedure would be to quickly note the plate and call the cops.
Dagren
If someone commits a crime "Hit and Run", you can hold on to them. Breaking the window isn't a crime IF the driver was fleeing.
ErrorUsernameNotSetToInstanceofAnObject
At the speed he was going, doesn't exactly look like fleeing
Dagren
I said if. Yeah, looks like he was stopping though. The window will just be a "pay for the window" by the police, no harm I imagine.
gtsr
It happened almost the same to me (but I didnt brake the window).
virtuacor
*break
z0mbycide
I mean...he didn't brake it either.
SleezyTreezy
Steak
mygfgoestoadifferentschoolyouwouldntknowher
Lake
UhhhhhNick
I dont even think the driver noticed that he hit the guy....Why are there not manditory competency tests for elderly drivers?
EdwardStarsmith
Pillar of the car hides the bike from the driver. Driver did make a lazy turn. It should have been sharper, but he never saw the bike.
Dagren
Car looked like it was slowing to a stop but I agree EVERYONE should have eye exams every few years. So many people have eye issues nowadays
ruferto
actually if you watch the video, he notices the guy and turns his wheel away from the bike at the last second
100percentgenuineimitation
Probably for the same reason there are no competency tests before people are allowed to vote!
sorrycannotbraintoday
The biker's fucked. After rewatching, the car very quickly starts stopping and puts their hazard blinkers on as the biker runs at him
DuncanVliet
Blinker was already on, not sure about the stopping. Looks more like he froze and kept on rolling
sorrycannotbraintoday
Don't blame him, seeing a big dude you just had an accident with charging your car "Waterboy" style.
Calicoastin818
and now that’s assault
middlehead
Battery in most places. Assault is saying you'll hit them, Battery is doing it. Could get Weapon added on for using the helmet.
PurpleMikey
He ended up not having to pay for the window. He hit it with his hand trying to get the guys attention.
JustABonelessAlien
He didn't make physical contact nor did he threaten to.
Ginkawa
the car driver sure did though.
kstrtroi
Lol! Let’s all start bashing in car windows, Weeeee!
JustABonelessAlien
I never said he was blame free. I am just saying he did no5 committ assault.
7oidberg
Judging from the thickness of the guy's lenses he must be blind as a bat
AccountCreatedToUpvoteDogs
Thank you! I was hoping for this to show up so I could get a better look at the asshole
clanhannan
Great screenshot
MaarsUltor
https://youtu.be/pfMjX97U1LM
ChernoGamma
I'll take "videos that end way too fucking soon" for $500 Alex
Siderz
Thanks, was hoping for the original so I could give a dislike. How could you feel it necessary to smash the window in of an elderly person?
TNwhiskeyginger
Of course it was a PT Cruiser.
NoFuxToGive
A yellow one, no less
usernamehasalreadybeenchosentoomanytimes
Now like PT Loser.
PossumPoop
The PT Cruiser is the worst vehicle I have ever driven. I valeted cars for 8 years during their heyday. I’m still angry.
jawscmouse
Seriously. Not the jam
CMoeBaggins
I never had a problem with PT Cruisers. Then I bought a Chevy HHR from a friend. Everyone thinks it’s a PTC... now I hate those things.
Kerberos623
To me they look like an EPA-tractor. Swedish farmvechicle converted into "moped car" . And I own one. bought from brother in law. sigh.
1coyote
A PT Cruiser with a complete idiot behind the wheel. ASSHOLE!!!
PW28
I knew one person who owned a PT Cruiser and he had wooden dentures and a glass eyeball.
Thelrishlnquistion
He wouldn’t happen to have been George Washington? No of course not. We all know what he drives:
bigdog838
Wooden dentures?! How does that even work??
MurtBaclinBFI
Stop talking smack about me
PW28
Sorry Murt.
numnumz
They should be banned. Not due to any safety issue but because they are ugly as hell
Justapartofyourimagination
They drive like pure shit too. Should be banned just like the yugo
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Blackershaman
Are they paying you? You dont have to do this
DaierMune
To be fair, PT cruisers have insanely large blind-spots
FunkyTheFox
Yeah in front of them
CekinDestroy
Cam even see through the huge piece of glass installed in front of them
fitzinimgur
alpacasaurusrex
Why is this downvoted?! My aunt had one. I HATED driving it. The blind spots were insane in the back.
Draciella
He could see him before he began the turn, then actually colliding he didn't look as if he was stopping. Besides if someone is accustomed/1
Draciella
/2 to their vehicle, one would presume they are aware of its drawbacks. So taking extra care wouldn't go amiss
zsevern
That's not a blind spot issue.
BluePennMonster
No car has THAT large of a blind spot..
alpacasaurusrex
No, but the blind spots out the back are prettt crazy
TheRapMan
Not even blind spot Johnson, and he had a pretty big blind spot. Hence the name.
gravewolf13
It does. Sometimes I can't see people at all on the sides at a 4 way stop. You have to actually look around the damn pillars first.
Blackershaman
Get a new car
gravewolf13
Easier said than done. I have no money for that and the trade in value is worth zilch. I'm just happy I can pay the rest of my bills.
DaierMune
I swear they're among the worst cars made
HaberdasherInGold
Light truck*
tweakbz
Buick Aztec anyone? Rendezvous?
alpacasaurusrex
But CRAZY popular for some unknown fucking reason.
Thelrishlnquistion
Lots of crap cars are. Usually because they’re cheap. I know somebody who loved their Morris Marina. It’s baffling.
gravewolf13
They're all old people. And then there's me. Given one by my dad to drive because "he liked them". He never drove one.
ClassicSwanson
I immediately assume anyone not wearing protective gear is an idiot.
TheIrishHaveAlcoholism
He has protective gear, a helmet and gloves. You can't always dress for the slide, the sun does not mix well with heavy leather
GotHereThroughaWormhole
leather summer jackets aren't thick. textile jackets can be cooler.
ClassicSwanson
I'm gonna assume you're an idiot too then.
fehyo
Tell me, do you know what heat stroke is?
Dagren
Do you know what "making a bad decision" is? If you risk sun stroke or having your skin scraped off, you are being foolish. Don't ride today
Dagren
You CAN always dress for the slide. If it's too hot to ride safely, then don't ride. Simple.
ruferto
"boss, i can't come in to work today. it's too hot so i can't dress in leather on my only means of transportation."
Dagren
So you own transportation that will cause you heat stroke if you use it??? I hired a MORON of an employee. Get a car or risk your life then.
ruferto
sorry, i'm down on my luck and can't afford a car yet! please pay me until i can
GAMESTERofLOVE12
Maybe stop before the STOP line next time ass
JustABonelessAlien
From someone who does not know how to drive
runswithlag
Actually, you're allowed to come to a stop and then creep forward until you have visibility of traffic.
myrightsbeforeyourfeelings
He could see traffic just fine from the stop line tho.
kerblaaaah
True, but if you creep into someone’s oncoming lane you’re still majority at fault. I don’t think that’s the case here.
DpsGoblin
Worked for a car rental company years ago, we had lots of pt cruisers. They’re not that bad with blind spots, unless you’re a shit driver.
DpsGoblin
Also with gopros the wide angled view doesn’t really give a 100% actual view that you see with your own eyes. It changes the view on camera.
IamNoOneToBeTrifledWith
Anyone have a link to the video from whence this came?
RBMK30000
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Mrgetdown
I second this
Metalhead47
4 hours and nothing? What? This vid’s gotta be priceless with the rest!
DogacMazman
You clearly see in the video, that he past the stop mark. İ wonder if there were any arrests
Efreeti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfMjX97U1LM
jameslucian
After watching that, I blame the biker for this. Look how he is almost in the other lane and well past the stop line, no room to turn
Herpadeerp
"almost" in the other lane but isn't. he pulls out so he can see past the fence. car had more than enough room to make a wider turn.
Herpadeerp
definitely didn't need to smash the guys window though
IamNoOneToBeTrifledWith
I was hoping it would be longer.
Your90sSexualFantasy
That’s what she said
rsmgod287
I’m a biker. The car is carelss but that biker is an idiot for being out that far and foolish for losing his cool for a car that didn’t flee
tavisno
i mean, its a very nice sports bike and some idiot just ruined it, while you were just trying to make a left. id say hes justified tbqh.
DocHerb87
Ya it looks like the biker lost his cool there.
Withmybearhands
Isn't the driver on his phone? Looks like he has something in his right hand
tellmeimcute
It's quick and choppy in the gif, but at the 12 second mark he drops his phone.
Jagadid
Fight or flight.
xtsnx
in the original video, the guy said the old boy didn't even realise he'd hit him, and infact wasn't stopping...
toft80
That's like that dude that says his wife is just walking into the door a lot. Never an excuse for violence!
kobrakaimf
True but can you imagine the adrenaline rush the biker is going through?
cptwott
thought the same. He shouldn't have attacked him. Now his whole case gets undermined by a criminal action
mity0k23
Nah. Dude never noticed the biker until his helmet was in the Cruiser. And you can’t make out the plate on this video. Quick thinking +1
zephyrbell
You're an idiot if you think him being in the middle of his lane is "too far left".
zombiejedediah
Yes, that just went from "insurance" to "assault".
Squirrelprophecies
Assault is what the cruiser did to the biker. The biker merely vandalized.
CallmeMefford
I agree- he put himself in the hard place. And he could have just vectored off to the right & been fine. Bad form on his part.
Wolve03
I think the PT guy had the sun in his eyes + the bike may have been obscured by the A-pillar
Glockenspieler
As long as we are clear that this might be a reason, it doesn’t excuse hitting someone. Drivers think “I didn’t see you” is an excuse
Inbreadsandwich
Its easy for you to keep a cool head behind the comments of imgur and say that. But when you are in the moment and almost die its different
AaronGodgers
This and I think that PT cruiser driver maybe should have a license if he’s to old to know he hit someone
CouchCarrot
I think he thought it was fleeing. Things are happening pretty quickly, and when that adrenaline is pumping it can be hard to see reality.
NaturalProgressionGaming
Alright... Lets have someone drive their car down the side of your leg and see how cool and calm you are.
LiterallyNothingAvailable
Gotta keep calm. Any leverage this guy had is out the window
LiterallyNothingAvailable
In the window I guess?
MaliciousOnion
Been hit by a car, harder than that. Kept my cool. It's not difficult.
Ninjadel
Different walks of life for different people brother. Good on you tho
jixathejinx
I ride too. Totally acceptable. Dropped bike - busted window. Seems fair enough. He was not out too far, the car cut too close
Jonataurus
I don't think the biker was that far left.
ThomasThundersword
and, he might have been shot. even if I hit someone, if they did that with my fam in that car, id shoot first, questions later.
Ancillary
You need escalation of force training before you carry, then.
ThomasThundersword
If i was alone i'd agree, but with fam in the car, not taking any chances, even if the cost is an innocents life and me behind bars. fam>all
Ancillary
I understand where you’re coming from, to an extent. It’s just that most people will do one bold thing and then pause. You have time to...
Ancillary
...deescalate, especially if you present a weapon. Plus, discharging a weapon in the car is extremely loud and a shooting is stressful...
saintdanesbaine
He literally had to chase the car on foot. that's fleeing you dumb fuck
GabbySilver
Victim blaming is not cool.
Lulabel73
I think he had the sun in his eyes. Accidents happen.
PotatoSpacer
The PT cruiser driver was only paying attention to his windshield then. I always look through that and my driver's window in a turn.
nevernoped
Doubt he had sun in his time during that entire 90degree turn
KaJuN
If you hit someone because the sun was in your eyes then you don't deserve the privilege of operating a motor vehicle.
DarthLordPotato
Woahhhhh sorry Mr.Perfect. Probably uses a cell for music while driving and preaches in his virtual life here
KaJuN
I do use a cell for music but I start it before driving then it stays in my pocket where it belongs.
MoopsyLD
that car would have never even hit the bike if the biker didnt pull out. that car actually turned fine so it is the biker complete fault
myrightsbeforeyourfeelings
You are right, the bike are way over the stop line.
slipstream222
He hit a non moving object, old, high or drunk.
JessieJanson
Not to mention, he has a cam on his head, he could have just ran up behind it to get the license plate recorded. i dont think a judge 1/2
JessieJanson
will look kindly on his actions, thats not to say the PT cruiser did nothing wrong, they did. just 2 wrongs dont make a right.
Duz2
being hit with a car not everyone things logically. Especially when being hit can mean their life. Adrenilian rush and anger combined
JessieJanson
he wasnt paying attention and is obviously OK. His reaction is one of road rage, thats not OK even if he is upset. How does smashing 1/2
JessieJanson
the window do anything constructive? Seems more like he was hoping to react this way given the chance. being upset is understandable though.
kylejonston92
No but 3 lefts do
CarbyAu
Your left arm 3x weaker than your right arm? 3 lefty punches to 1 righty swing!? I guess we know which hand is your science lab assistant...
JessieJanson
Then he should have finished turning around and slammed the back of his head into the window. At least then he could claim to be right ;D
inkbladder
My wife HATES when I say this. But it always ends the discussion because she stops speaking to me for a while.
blueblurr33
I realize your right about the car not fleeing when I consider he caught up to a car.
Naiix
Angerey make go nyoom
FirstAidPoetry
My right, huh?
janeyomac
Pretty sure it's an old man in the car.
elShiz
He didn't catch up a car, the cars you see are parked further to driver's right, his lane is in fact free of traffic. Was just going slow.
TheCrowd
In the full video, driver of the PT cruiser didn’t know he hit him. Was just driving on regardless at old man speed.
jugend
Link?
Hendlton
There's no full video, but there's another video. Read the description. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyrA25ka014
Begotten
U just summed up about 90 percent of incidents involving bikes
defaulted
Do you ride? Or have friends that do? You’d have a different opinion if you did.
Begotten
You mean I'd have a biased opinion?
defaulted
Well getting your license involved getting educated to a degree. Motorcycle safety is pretty serious. So I’d say an educated opinion.
Begotten
I don't need a motorcycle license to see how common these incidents are
defaulted
Not that I am condone the riders actions, but the internet isn’t a fair representation of bike accidents.
imgurwhoreforcash
He looked like he was fleeing.
pariah76
If he was fleeing, biker wouldn't have caught up on foot
rltoms949
Clearly you've never driven one of those land-boats. They don't accelerate very quickly...
pariah76
You can see he came to a stop
furriephillips
This PT cruiser doesn’t look like he does anything fast, so fleeing might still apply, just slowly
12GaPoopRockets
More like so unaware of any wrongdoing until the biker was within ft of his window in pursuit. But I dnt think he was stopping on his own.
JellybellyBushroot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfMjX97U1LM&feature=youtu.be
Banhammer72
Not how the video stops the moment the biker realises it's an old man?
alpacasaurusrex
Wow fuck the biker, I get he got hit, but that was uncool man. Dude is clearly old, doesn’t mean he is right, just means you don’t go rage
alpacasaurusrex
punching some old dudes car window in on him cause he takes off your front mirror.
Laserdiscmemories
Or could have creamed you entirely, or crushed your leg because your leg is about 6 inches from where the mirror is.
rltoms949
Who gives a fuck how old he is? Would you use the "oh he's an old man" excuse if he grabbed the vagina of one of your friends as you passed?
alpacasaurusrex
I’d get the fuck over it. I wouldn’t run up and head butt/punch his window in.
xtsnx
he didn't punch the window, he had palms open, the window was down, and they are weak like that, he was just trying to get him to stop
RagnaLoki
also wrong, he straight up HEAD BUTT that window in, and who cares if the guys old, that still looked like reckless driving on the cars part
alpacasaurusrex
You see the glass blow inwards dude.
bomboy23
And now you're in more trouble than the car dricer
Fillsinyourblank
Nah, hit and run is worse than the property damage caused.
middlehead
He caught the car on foot. The car was stopping.
Ghost0fDawn
Fuck it, violence is the only answer some people will understand. That car didn't look like it intended on stopping until he got fucked up
myrightsbeforeyourfeelings
..and the bike went far over the stop line.
middlehead
He caught the car on foot. The car was stopping.
knightmair
One could also argue its an uncontrollable flight or fight reflex from adrenaline for being hit by a car
YoursTrulee
Hmm. Fair point.
jursamaj
If you're rage is that uncontrollable, you probably shouldn't be allowed outdoors off a leash.
YoursTrulee
Lmao
knightmair
It's not rage though, it's adrenaline, some people have extreme fight or flight reflexes and that makes them uncontrollable in extreme
knightmair
Situations; such as getting almost killed by a car
jursamaj
Given that he jumped right off the bike, ran after the car, and smacked the window, 'almost killed' is an exaggeration.
jursamaj
It's weird that you think you've made a distinction there. It's still rage. 1/2
jursamaj
And even if it were a distinction, they need locked up for everybody's safety. 2/2
billymaditsdone
Dude, the reaction of the biker...amazing.
bogus1983
Adrenaline is a hell of a drug.
Starbolt81
On the floor to T1000 in 0.5 sec
Fairdinkums
After seeing it I honestly can't think of a better reaction now
TherealMRDEVIL
Man I wanna know the story so bad
BenSnow97
Source and comments: https://youtu.be/pfMjX97U1LM Basically, nothing special happened, he got the grandpa's insurance. It was an honest >
BenSnow97
mistake, if you watch it that bar on the side of the windshield keeps the motorcycle out of view for the whole time.
Avanchnzel
A pillars man....I have almost hit a few people because they have been In line with it.
alpacasaurusrex
Those fucking windshields are fucking shit. Front and back, especially in the sun they have fucking awful blind spots. Aunt had one. It was
alpacasaurusrex
shit.
ruferto
car was slowing down to a stop. looks like it was an honest mistake
NasaFakedTheMoon
An honest mistake that could have killed someone.
ruferto
but didnt
minkfarm
This time.
NasaFakedTheMoon
Oh okay cool. We’ll just let this one go and wait till someone does get killed. Great idea. /s
ruferto
or we could take a bad thing that happened and immediately make it into the worst case that didnt happen because that's totally fair
butsmart
and then, what happened?
LooseyGooseyBrett
He went to jail for assault
Einbrecher
The driver leaves with a moving violation and higher insurance premiums. The biker leaves with misdemeanor charges for battery with a weapon
GeneCode
I didn't see any battery. was it a button battery?
BananaJack
Good ol internet lawyer, working at walmart.
Einbrecher
You're adorable.
BananaJack
Cool dude, keep posting on imgur with your imaginary law degree.
TheCrowd
Except if you watch the video it’s clear he hits the window with his hand not head, open palm slap to get the car to stop.. it was on reddit
Sfinski
Source pls.
GodDamnItWhyDoIHaveToDoThisEveryTime
Seems like a fair trade.
sbubar
Nope. "everyone came to the conclusion he was at fault. Nothing exciting happened afterwards." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyrA25ka014
acme64
ya weapon
DannyDLC
hes dick
hypnotictommy
Dude used his dome to destroy that window
texabilly71
Talinthis
honestly it looks like his hand went through the window if you watch the youtube video
FrisianDude
I thought he did something with his arms
TheCrowd
It was his hand, he slapped the window open palm... window was half open and it bent and shattered. Full video is clear.
LTParry
You got the link? I'm curious as to what happens next.
djk752
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VictorHolm
All the videos I’ve seen on various sites cuts off right when the window shatters so I think this is it.
zmajevi
Helmet probably helped some
Craizie
And it's probably useless now.
WolnyLogin
tell that to his neck vertebrae
Tikityler
If you swing your helmet hard then go limp letting the momentum take it into the window its just gonna be the jar of impact.
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
Blunt objects against tempered glass usually don't break it. He's lucky it broke that time.
TheCrowd
Window was half down, and he hit it with an open palm if you watch full video, it bent and shattered
davidthemonkey
He slapped it? Looks like he just nutted the fucker out of rage xD
JohnMike64
Common misconception side windows are meant to shatter, only the windscreen should be tempered.
smitmp024
This is completely false. I used to work in an automotive glass factory. I can assure you every single glass piece on a car is tempered.
Aaroneous
No. It's all tempered. That is why it shatters in tiny pieces. The windscreen is tempered and laminated.
JohnMike64
Derp laminated my bad thanks
becauseurwrong
Aren't car windows designed to break apart with enough force, blunt or sharp, for an escape route?
Alimana
They are really hard to break when they are fully closed. I know, I had to break one with a crowbar once,it took 3 hits.
sorrycannotbraintoday
From the inside, they're curved to add strength from outside forces
tweakbz
Vehicle windows are thin. That helmet is harder than the glass and he hit it with several hundred pounds of force. Of course it'd break...
sorrycannotbraintoday
Worked in glass repair when i was younger. They're stronger than you think, 7/10 the average adult would fail to break with a hammer
Antelino
Well sure but a relatively fit dude that just got flooded with fight or flight adrenaline are those 3 right there.
tweakbz
....really? I've never broken a car window but I've seen plenty of things go through them. Figured it's the amount of force and impact area
sorrycannotbraintoday
It's the placement. Tempered glass is strong af everywhere except the edges, look up a "prince ruperts drop" as an example.
MaoZedong
It's more about where you place the hit. If the hit is hard enough and placed in the right spot, it breaks pretty easy actually.
Skywalker2416
Yup. Have tried with hammer. Didnt work. Porcelain supposedly makes reaction w glass to spiderweb it. Done that before...
Omegarighteous
Thrown a rock at a cars back window and smashed with ease aren’t they thicker than side windows?
sorrycannotbraintoday
Can't remember 100%, though they have a larger surface area so there's less strength.
Lulabel73
Who is that fired up in a second?! Someone has road rage.
TheBlueMuppet
I would. Dude smashed my expensive motorcycle and couldve crushed my leg. Now its his turn, and im about to improvise.
Lulabel73
I hope you can get the time off work to go to court.
TheBlueMuppet
Still less time than it'll take for insurance to cover my smashed bike, so it's all the same.
AuntieNelle
Adrenaline is a helluva drug.
einschtein
I don’t even think he broke the window on purpose. But then again: it’s America. Where most bikers don’t know how to drive and get pissed
einschtein
by the little things. So meh.
notleftshark
He's on a broth red motorcycle that if the person was looking at all would have been clear as day, I'd be pretty fucking pissed to
Lulabel73
I get that, when drove through an intersection into my car I didn’t run and headbutt their window.
goste
Difference is, he’s on a bike... you were in a car?
Lulabel73
The difference is I didn’t get out and run at the other car like a psycho.
ThatsNoMoonThatsAGalaxy
Did they try to escape, and you had no other mean to quickly and effectively halt their egress?
Lulabel73
They drove to a safe location and then hit out of their car like a normal person. You don’t stop in the middle of an intersection.
YourSincerely
I think you might be a little optimistic in that you believe everyone is sane and will stop. There are actually a lot of hit and runs
Lulabel73
You drive around at fever pitch just ready to headbutt windows?
Orginskadots
If someone were to hit me and not stop, I’d be pretty fucking livid