MRW my roommate tells me he's dropping out of school to pursue his dream of being a pro magic the gathering player.

Feb 11, 2017 5:35 PM

BointToist

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Have him read some of the articles written by people who did that. They describe in detail how the pro circuit is not meant for that

9 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

Counter that.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

He knows that all the pro players either write articles or stream regularly, yes? Tournaments alone aren't profitable enough.

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

So he's commuting to shriveling ovaries with his scent alone?

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9 years ago | Likes 41 Dislikes 3

homeless-ness in his future i see

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How long has he been playing? What is his highest achievement of the game? Who does he play with?

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9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Happy, expensive accidents

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Oh, did he not pick from the pre approved list of acceptable dreams to follow?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

He didn't pick a viable dream. There's not enough tournament rewards. Even the best players still have jobs (often writing MtG articles.)

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That.... that's a thing people can do?

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Sort of. If you win enough tournaments, you get alright prize money, but you have to supplement it by streaming and by writing articles.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Sort of. If you win enough tournaments, you get alright prize money, but you have to supplement it by streaming and by writing articles.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yes…technically. But your chances of making a living off of it are about as good as going pro-athlete; but with a much shorter job life

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I knew a cadet (in ROTC and the National Guard simultaneously to become an officer) who was going to quit to become a pro Heely shoe racer.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That's a thing? TIL

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Had a person I used to call friend who quit school to become a pro League of Legends player. He never made it past Gold 4.

9 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

Because he was stuck in elo hell with terrible teammates, when he was actually challenger material, right? In his opinion, of course.

9 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 0

My RA freshman year dropped out to go pro at the Shadowrun FPS. At least your friend had a chance...

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I thought the same thing of my friend who wanted to become a youtuber, not that he succeeded or anything its just concerning

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Is that even a real option?

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Pursue it during school. If he doesn't have the discipline to do it around classes/reschedule, he won't have the discipline to be a pro.

9 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Unless his local scene just isn't that good, I don't see why he'd drop out to pursue this rather than do both.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Hey man, cock magic can be lucrative if you've got the right birds for it

9 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

That reference was awesome haha

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

As long as he pays the bills. MTG is so expensive.... esp if you keep up with the new cards every few months. Tell him to waste his money on

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

being an artist by painting for a living, and eventually going to art school because that works out for everyone.

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If he's winning, and building a record for himself, then go for it. Winning a Pro Tour is worth a decent stack. Otherwise, no.

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Somebody make a "Concern" meme with this guy please

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Yes! I was waiting for this reply.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

if they pay their part of the rent...

9 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

He said if worse comes to worse I can just sell a few good cards for rent. o_e

9 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

I knew a guy who ended up having to do that. He dropped out of college because he was spending too much time and cash on Magic.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

yeah, to get to the point where selling cards to pay rent happens, they've already lost

9 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 0

I'm all for following dreams but he could get a part time job that would pay him enough to pay the rent/food/utilities.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm working now while doing full time graduate level work, I don't sleep much but I'm able to pay for necessities. It's hard work to do...

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

..both yea, but that's life. It sounds more like he just doesn't want to be responsible while doing this. Don't let him screw you over OP.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

@BointToist Does he have Alpha & Beta rares or what? Ask him, he'll know what that means. Tell him prostitution had better be Plan B.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

And he should most likely have a plan C also, unless he is gay or at very least flexible.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Unless he has some seriously rare cards... No he cannot.

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Yes, that is a '"seriously rare" card but it's unlikely that he owns one although possible I guess.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I have more than one decks worth a grand. So yeah he can.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Rent for a year is anywhere from a few grand to over 10k if he's in uni housing. Thus he would need to sell a few of those grand+ decks...

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Or a few seriously rare cards.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm assuming he meant month rent not year.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Of all the things to pursue, that's a mighty expensive one.

9 years ago | Likes 307 Dislikes 1

Pay to play

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

you ain't lyin'

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Not as bad as Warhammer, I hear.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

You only buy your WH army once and make minor additions/subtractions over decades. You have to re-buy your MtG decks every ~3 months.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

In addition to what Stoatdota said, the miniatures don't rotate out of usefulness as quickly as the cards do.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Actually it gets better. Miniatures for the most part don't rotate out at all. There is no ban list. And there is no spike in demand.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

End of the day there's people who use RT era Marines from the 1980s still. Perfectly fine and their armaments are perfectly legal as well.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Do you want to buy a car or $T4KS? One of my friends traded a modern affinity deck for a grand and two decent guitars once.

9 years ago | Likes 74 Dislikes 0

Affinity is such a good deck and has been for so long. Unlike a lot of other modern decks which got targetted bans.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Oh at first I read that as 1002 decent guitars instead of 1000$ and 2 guitars.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

When did that trade happen? Sounds eerily similar to when I bought a modern affinity deck off my friend for a bass, a guitar, and ~$700...

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Last summer. New York area.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That's when where mine was... Anything noteworthy about the deck, friend, specific location, you don't mind sharing here?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yeah we're talking about the same person. It's so weird, the world is a small place, even on the Internet.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

When I quit I sold my shit and got enough for most of a car

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

I have like 2000 mana cards alone. I dont even play. My brother gave them to me when he quit. What should I do with all these cards?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Send them to me

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

After spending most of two cars to get it.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

What if the 1 car is worth more than the 2 cars?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You usually establish yourself first and then get a journalism deal with a website. Has he won tournaments and stuff yet?

9 years ago | Likes 1018 Dislikes 5

you look at pro earning and it usually peaks at 100k career total(from tournament prizes) you need a team and website to make a living

9 years ago | Likes 64 Dislikes 0

Don't encourage him.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

My friend did this. He made Pro Tour one time and got a job at a card shop. Not full blown success, but no regrets.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Looking for a job at a card shop for now have a volunteering gig and I'm getting payed in cards so I guess it's the same (I'm in high schol)

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I dropped out of school to do YouTube, but that was only after I was making enough money to support myself (I'm not helping)

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Screw all that, I mean, sure what you said is all damn important but we have to cover fundamentals. OP. How bountiful is his arse cleavage?

9 years ago | Likes 77 Dislikes 1

Bountiful arse cleavage. Beautiful.

9 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

I appreciate the realistic tone with which you're approaching a somewhat unrealistic dream. My oldest friend hasn't given up on writing 1/

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

2/told her at 14 that she'd need a career that would support her while she made her name. We're both out of college, working, still writing.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Oh c'mon we actually entertaining this idea?

9 years ago | Likes 52 Dislikes 150

I don't know anything about magic, but people used to say the same thing about gaming. Last tourney a team made 4.3 mill off of stickers.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Honestly, people do it, but like most stuff like that, it's not a one-track gig. Your job is player/writer/commentator/promoter/etc.

9 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 1

Well then twinkle my fanny pack good luck to him

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

I mean all those websites, Starcitygames, mtggoldfish, employ a small staff of managers and content creators. It ain't bad work.

9 years ago | Likes 38 Dislikes 1

I used to write for star city back in the day.. they have some good folks writing for them.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Oh cool. What years and what was it like?

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Back in 02-03.. I first won a contest for parodying Eminem's "Lose Yourself" into a mtg song called "Use Your Wrath." They paid in dualland!

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's a doable career path, but you have to be real damn good, and more than likely you wont sustain yourself on winnings, but writing.

9 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

What do you write about if you are going into the profession?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Card analysis, meta analysis, WotC policy changes, card price prediction, deck brews, and sideboard recommendations to name a few.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

As someone clueless on the subject that is way more than I would have thought and is very cool.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I have a friend who writes occasionally for Star City Games, and he's won professional tournaments, but it's not enough to replace his job.

9 years ago | Likes 298 Dislikes 1

Todd?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Wait like in roanoke

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Yep. I used to visit a lot with friends. I need to go back with them sometime.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Huh, neat. Now here's the long shot, did you go to school at William Byrd

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I live in another county. My friends all visited Roanoke because it was the only place with tournaments, but there is a guy trying to →

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Hell though, if I could at least make money off my hobby in order to finance my hobby, that would be cool

9 years ago | Likes 63 Dislikes 0

As an artist who does commissions from time to time it's a good deal. "Hey, you want to pay for a tiny fraction of my expensive shit? Nice."

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Dos

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That's why pool is great. I go in and play some cash games, then join a tourny or a league and it'll pay for gas and new cues/table time

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Fucking rook, I make enough at pool to pay off all m-...nah I'm just kidding I suck at pool. Good for you though.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

We've got guys at the local hall in there daily playing $500/game for hours and hours lol

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As an artist who does commissions from time to time it's a good deal. "Hey, you want to pay for a tiny fraction of my expensive shit? Nice."

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

My friends shitty ex spent all his fucking money on magic cards and when she questioned his financial choices he berated her for being a /1

9 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 0

Unless the guy has a black lotus or some shit he's a giant cunt.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

it wouldn't matter if he did, since he kept all his precious, valuable cards in trodden-on piles scattered around his filthy mattress

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

stupid girl who doesn't GET IT because those cards were gonna be worth MONEY someday oh my GOD. Yeah he's homeless now sooo... /2

9 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 0

well in the long run you might earn a bit on card's

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

http://www.mtgstocks.com/cards/5855 My 2 playsets of Chalice of the Voids are looking like a pretty good investment now.

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Good on her for making him an ex.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I had a friend who had an identically shitty ex! He's in prison now. I'm starting to wonder if maybe MTG can be abused like drugs.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

it's only half jokingly refered to as cardboard crack for a reason...

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Many things can be abused like drugs. Obsession is a foolish thing, everything in moderation. Except cake. Cake is good.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Cake is excellent. I recently made a spice cake and used a blend of cinnamon and ginger to flour the pan. Came out pretty well.

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I love these!

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Woah, neat. Although I think I prefer the still one :) The blinking and flashing is a little too jarring

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Just thought I'd share for the collection

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Party on then, friend! ^^

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Here we go again

9 years ago | Likes 103 Dislikes 1

*fedora*

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Wait, is that the guy that went around a Magic tournament taking selfies with all the fat guy ass cracks?

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

it is, which makes the picture even more relevant

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I don't have a joke to go with this, but it's card-related: http://imgur.com/wKo6M4V

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Welp, found the Underfag.

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Oh look its the Legend of Link.

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