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In a 6-to-3 vote, the Supreme Court ruled that border agents may unconstitutionally enter a person's home without a warrant and assault him and ... federal courts are powerless to do anything about it.
https://twitter.com/cristianafarias/status/1534539839529525251
Just a reminder of where border agents are allowed to operate.
An area that covers about 200 milllion people.
The GOP is a terrorist organization.
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joeuhconstrictor
America has hit the brakes and is now in reverse. Look out!
MyDudebroman
Oh fun, my city is within the border zone. Good thing I have a shotgun and little respect for anyone who tries to break into my home
MarkRavingMad
So republicans are basically like "fuck the whole constitution except the second half of the second amendment"
Roqinn
As if No Knock warrants weren't bad enough!
thundercactus
Something something police state
hungoveratworkguy
Conservatives REALLY HATE brown people
RenaissanceFaireMan
Yet they pass laws/rulings that impact them...and have the gall to cry when the leopards eat their face(s).
QuartzBlue
How the fuck does HAWAII have borders? OCEAN BRUH.
RenaissanceFaireMan
"Point of entry into the US"
Lobo82
So, Fascism then? Will nothing be done? I mean, I vote, but I feel so hopeless. I'm also in Texas, so that doesn't help. I'm tired
mrpink83
This kind of news makes me tired too... like the kind of tired that I want to go into a coma and only awaken when everything is groovy again
barbarian818
#2 Really under-estimates the coverage. Border law also applies to all airports and air fields that accept international flights. And any
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port navigable by marine shipping.
StrongBadEMale
Page 3 of the majority decision has some genuinely scary assertions on the nature of the Supreme Court, and on courts in general.
verbeckpaul1960
MFing Supreme Court! Most of the justices need to be flushed back into their traitorous/ religious cesspool. They’re destroying our country!
MissSiesta
Yes, and can only be removed if they DIE. Trump fucked up the US for decades by appointing so many supreme Court judges
TheHandOfAsh
This is the type of content I like.
ThatGuyFromJustSouthOfTheMiddleOfNowhere
Fed agents are shielded against state courts. Fed agents in performance of duties are shielded for most any act in federal courts.
Stanistani
Hey, about that map: any river with a seaport at the end also counts. Lewiston, Idaho is 465 miles inland.
RenaissanceFaireMan
That'd include the Mississippi and Missouri?
Stanistani
The International Port of Memphis and The Port of Kansas City...
TheOvy
It's not that they're allowed to, it's just that the victim can't hold them accountable by suing them. But Congress can pass a law to change
TheOvy
this, and indeed, there's already a federal law that allows you to sue state and local officials. Congress must act... for once.
TheHolyFatman
Interesting that most coastal cities are more liberal leaning.
elbowdeepinawhateverthatis
Wtf border are they defending in Sacramento, the fuckin’ Pacific mermaid country?
RenaissanceFaireMan
That's the US border, a "point of entry".
anyrandom0
And all the more so it guys all the way to Lake Tahoe.
sicoyoda
everyone in power are corrupt pos either for abiding this crap, enforcing it or not calling it out. TRIPE
psmith00
The question becomes how much of a Civil War and how many years after is it going to take to correct the damage these guys are doing?
omgpirate
Considering that roughly 1/2 of the country is pretty much in favor of a civil war? Probably a full war. Length of time? Unknown
Podromos
Didn't I read somewhere that the "border" also includes airports? So basically anywhere is free game?
JanieKarmaSmith
Not just international airports, recently videos surfaced showing CBP agents checking papers on Greyhound buses, Amtrak trains, & airports
JanieKarmaSmith
seemingly far from the Southern border.
JanieKarmaSmith
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-14/mapping-who-lives-in-border-patrol-s-100-mile-zone
1morebanforafreeshake
JanieKarmaSmith
This isn't updated yet but here is some history on the 100 miles from the border rule that existed since 1953
JanieKarmaSmith
https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone
cosimra
Well, that’s slightly terrifying.
StrongBadEMale
"The inquiry here is whether a court is competent to authorize a damages action against Border Patrol agents generally. The answer is no."
JanieKarmaSmith
What's terrifying is most people don't know it's been like that since 1953 & now the supreme court officially took away protections.
JanieKarmaSmith
Any chances we might of had in federal courts for civil penalties against law enforcement agencies is officially gone.
xizar
Don't airports constitute borders, too?
RenaissanceFaireMan
"CBP Officers are located across the country and work at airports and ports of entry to keep the American people safe."
JanieKarmaSmith
Yes, in recent years videos surfaced showing CBP agents checking papers on Greyhound buses, Amtrak trains, & airports
JanieKarmaSmith
seemingly far from the Southern border.
JanieKarmaSmith
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-14/mapping-who-lives-in-border-patrol-s-100-mile-zone
nightster07
Atleast Fairbanks (AK) is safe.
RenaissanceFaireMan
Are you within 100 miles of the Fairbanks International Airport?
nightster07
Oh shit.
RenaissanceFaireMan
I'm gonna take that as a yes...
hupsistasaatana
Too much text, can you sum it up in 140 characters?
HurrDurrImABurr
Cops allowed to break down doors without warrants and with no repercussions where 60% of US population lives. Fun times in shithole country.
StrongBadEMale
"The inquiry here is whether a court is competent to authorize a damages action against Border Patrol agents generally. The answer is no."
ShadusMacAoidh
"The answer is yes, by a two question process, but we're now reducing it down to one question - can we pass the buck to congress?"
khora
The border, once again, is a Constitution-free zone.
Burke616
We fucked
mottathehutt
Informant for BP invited BP to his property regularly, didn't like how they acted one time, and tried to sue. Congress' problem, not SCOTUS.
transference
Where Congress hasn’t created a cause of action, the Supreme Court generally shouldn’t try to do their job for them.
transference
That’s really it. The context in this case was violations of the 1st and 4th amendments by a border patrol agent.
mottathehutt
People who sit around crying about fascism have this weird contradictory notion that the gov't shouldn't follow rules when it suits them
enzio64
Actually, the Justices said, "This isn't our job, Congress is supposed to make laws, we're not supposed to tell police what to do."
RenaissanceFaireMan
Yes but if the SC says, "Well...the 4th amendment doesn't apply here."
Mentok
Why make laws when you can use the court to achieve your goals? Laws take time and compromise.
StrongBadEMale
"The inquiry here is whether a court is competent to authorize a damages action against Border Patrol agents generally. The answer is no."
RenaissanceFaireMan
Seems like they're telling a federal branch of the police exactly what they can/cannot do.
Columbus43219
God, i hate to agree with you, but yeah. Even the winners of Roe V Wade said to not depend on the courts for your rights, pass laws.
enzio64
Like it felt bad to type because I want the courts to side the other way on this, but... IDK the intricacies of the relationships b/c I'm--
enzio64
--an American and therefor wasn't taught civics properly except for propaganda.
creditwherecreditisdue
Hey, with civil forfeiture and the inability to hold police accountable for their actions, you could argue that the US is constitution-free.
RacecarIsRacecarBackwards
How is the supreme court even able to decide this? They aren't lawmakers or am I missing something?
RenaissanceFaireMan
Note on door: "We searched your home while you were at work and confiscated all the money we found in the house." - Border Police
RenaissanceFaireMan
"PS The door was broke when we got here, no clue how it happened"
RenaissanceFaireMan
"PSS You should fix your door, criminals might gain entry to your house and steal stuff!"
YouUselessTwat
Isn't that a state-by-state thing? I could be very wrong, though.
JanieKarmaSmith
Federal Civil Asset Forfeiture does occur, just not as often as local Civil Asset Forfeiture.
YouUselessTwat
Thanks! Still depressing, but I appreciate the clarification.
JanieKarmaSmith
Sorry
YouUselessTwat
Never apologize for telling the truth.
doggetofftheqcekmty
How exactly do Chicago and Milwaukee qualify? They don't border international waters.
JanieKarmaSmith
Border Patrol considers the boundary of the Great Lakes to be the “functional equivalent” of the border
JanieKarmaSmith
per government documents revealed in an ACLU lawsuit.
JanieKarmaSmith
PDF http://www.aclumich.org/sites/default/files/11302016_CBP_100_Mile_Zone_Complaint.pdf
almostalone
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JanieKarmaSmith
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-14/mapping-who-lives-in-border-patrol-s-100-mile-zone
almostalone
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AmazingSpiderCam
So thrilled to live in Michigan right now
NecklessCowboy
No one messes with our border. It’s all water. BIG water. But there was a drug smuggling submarine a few years ago
KevynDietz
CBP considers the shores of the great lakes to be a functional international boundary for the purpose of the 100 mile buffer.
NecklessCowboy
I just meant people typically don’t try to smuggle stuff across the Great Lakes.
KevynDietz
That doesn't really matter in the context of what this decision means. Just ask those snatch teams that were active in Portland.
allthenamesaregone
So basically covering what, 80% of the country's population? More?
PutItInNeutral
60%. Time to start reporting SCOTUS homes as being used as heavily armed undocumented immigrant safe houses.
RenaissanceFaireMan
kakivara
I'm not a math major, but I think that 200 divided by 330 is just under 61%.
TwoFlower68
Oh man, you totally could be a math major!
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
That's some fascist shit.
IhopeyougetstageIIIcoloncancer
No, just Republican shit. Although I can see how you'd confuse them as the venn diagram is just a circle at this point.
RenaissanceFaireMan
Technically the Border Patrol considers any international airport a "point of entry" and so...100 miles around any IATA?
RenaissanceFaireMan
http://www.gomapper.com/travel/list-of-international-airports-in/united-states-of-america.html
Maevoline
For the uninformed: IATA = International Air Transport Association (in this context, any international airport) www.iata.org
JanieKarmaSmith
Yup, nearly 2/3 of people live within the border range enacted in 1953 https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone
androgenoide
Actually, I think international airports are also counted as borders for this purpose...?
JanieKarmaSmith
Not just international airports, recently videos surfaced showing CBP agents checking papers on Greyhound buses, Amtrak trains, & airports
JanieKarmaSmith
seemingly far from the Southern border.
JanieKarmaSmith
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-14/mapping-who-lives-in-border-patrol-s-100-mile-zone
CraftyGiant
in 2020 DHS / BORTAC was operating within 100 miles of any international port, so there should be yellow circles on every major city.
CraftyGiant
While they were only 80 miles from the coast when snaching people into unmarked vans in Portland...
stupidlystupendous
Are there also mostly non-republican voters living there? Sorry if that's a stupid question. Non-american here
neogeo0823
Considering a large majority of the country isn't republican, yes. Republicans only make up, I think, around 30%of the population.
neogeo0823
Nevermind, I was way off. As of 12/17/2020, Gallup polling found 31% of are Democrats, 25% are Republicans, and 41% are independent.
JanieKarmaSmith
It's a range of DEMs & REPs populations in cities run by DEMs & REPs. Not an even mix but both exist alongside each other.
stupidlystupendous
Thanks! My prejudice days dems are in cities and reps in rural areas, 's why I asked.
CleverlyReferencedThing
Even though there are plenty of Republicans in there that area includes nearly all the left leaning progressive cities in the US
JanieKarmaSmith
Most cities tend to be Dems but there is a heavy Rep population intermixed within them.