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https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/charlie-kirk-tyler-robinson-bullet-b2948916.html
FlintNorth44
P A T S Y
thechelonianshelmet
If the bullet frags get thrown out, it'll be a real pain in the neck for the prosecution.
Oatmealman1
Conservative ACTIVIST? lmao, he was a racist cunt, being an 'activist' for racism, sexism, and nazis, makes you a stupid cunt. Who TF cares about that dumbass bitch and his whore wife?
iamgnat
I believe he did it, but it would be totally apropos of this administration that tried so hard to make this an anti-trans inflection point to have fucked up the evidence gathering.
I can't say that I condone vigilante justice, but I also can't deny that this guy's actions were a massive net positive for the world. He is no hero, but I won't lose sleep over him getting acquitted on a technicality of FBI/ATF stupidity.
yokwe
The site of the shooting is about a five minute walk from my office. I think it's all blocke off now, with those solar hobo-alert things in place.
ArgentXero
Candace Owens about to have a field day with this one
vigilante397
The (alleged) shooter is also a shitty person and I don't condone his (alleged) actions, but I still kinda hope he gets off due to poor evidence gathering.
JergenHealing
You know full well Robinson did it lmao. Talking about some "alleged" You definitely support Robinson and his actions don't try to lie to us. Makes no sense to not condone his actions but hope he gets no punishment from doing said actions.
LordOfThePenguin
Having already seen Kathryn Nester’s work as defense counsel in the Kouri Richins case, I’m more inclined to believe this is a wild flailing attempt to get anything to stick than actual real evidence.
Timmysteve
Death penalty?? That's absurd
Luriden
There is a conspiracy theory that the killing was an accident. It states that it was supposed to have been a "near miss," similar to what happened to Trump, but that instead of directly impacting the vest and having him "miraculously survive," it killed him in a freak accident. Evidence often cited is that all of the funeral events were celebratory, filled with fireworks and sparkles, and happy: Because they were meant to be a celebration, and there was no time to change it all. Fun!
WammoJammo
Kill a Republican get a federal charge, kill a Democrat get a State charge.
dohcohv
The president can't pardon state charges....
PurpleMoonFlower
Murder some protesters and get off scot free
Sebastopol140
squillis
"Bullet doesn't match rifle" is a bad headline for "unable to get a clean match from a bullet fragment" they didn't rule anything out, just said the test was inconclusive
HeHeHebieJeebies
imagine the state snipers sitting up and behind this guy chuckling about his form and technique. He shot the fukn tree a mile away.... error correcting now.
Boondangle40
Mossad killed him. He was starting to speak out against Israel
ilhares
I wouldn't be remotely surprised the turnip was behind it, since Kirk was calling for release of the Epstein files.
Clockworkdancerobot
Turns out his neck just does that.
BrianFarr
Does anyone remember Pez? ;-)
CobainsSarcoma
mithiwithi
Must be a symptom of having such a small face.
Feralkyn
His inner hate just boiled up and the pressure couldn't hold
cytherians
Does it really matter?
Didn't Tyler Robinson actually confess to committing Charlie Kirk's murder?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c99g1e0z2ero
FlintNorth44
The confession written by a romance novelist...?
TheBreadTurtle
some other dude confessed before tyler did
neithermenoryou
Confessions don't mean that much, since cops will use any and all options they have to get someone to confess. There are many, many documented cases of cops getting a confession from innocent people just because the people couldn't stand being questioned for hours on end without any breaks, food, or water. I also wouldn't put it past the current FBI that they just straight up lied about it or forged it themselves.
mohavewolfpup
So pull a hector? Got it. https://youtu.be/gyCjPqis6b8
wandermanspacebot
I mean, I imagine it would mean a whole lot in a criminal trial, no?
InternetAnonymityplz
I didn't downvote you, because that's a reasonable question, but no, not necessarily. It is very often possible to get coerced confessions thrown out as evidence. As they should be, because they are not legitimate.
trippingthelightfantastic
Where was Erika?
dingybasement350
At home seeing who could print up memorial t-shirts for the lowest price.
StunttheRunt
You mean JD in drag?
newsguycraigevans
Preparing her celebration tour.
backrideup9
Cosplaying as a couch.
Sebastopol140
*couchplaying
shalafi71
Bullet ballistics are largely bullshit, just like other Hollywood techniques. Come out to our camp and shoot any of my guns you choose. The marks on the shells won't match, fired from the same weapon! Recovered bullets are even more useless. If they're saying it's a VERY different bullet than that bolt-action fires, that's a different story.
PballQhead
They aren't saying it's a .223 or .458, it is a .30, but it's too fragmented to be *conclusively* linked to the rifle…which as you said is pretty much normal for ballistic analysis.
Feralkyn
Do you mean forensic ballistics in particular? I feel like calling ballistics bullshit is pretty wild given that ballistics just means... bullet math, basically
shalafi71
Thank you! Of course I meant ballistic forensics. I don't think anyone is dumb enough to argue physics doesn't apply to bullets.
Feralkyn
You say that, but *gestures broadly*
mycatsings
Sebastopol140
Hahaha! Yoink!
duktayp
Conspiracy theorists everywhere are masturbating furiously right now
livingonagiantfireball
You are eithe rmainstream media manipulated by the elite or you believe in conspiracy which is anything not mainstream media.
DragonThunderUndertaking
....but I'm not a conspiracy.... nevermind
Someshithead241
Okay but how do they feel about this?
YuffieK
newsguycraigevans
It's the only exercise I get!
theredeemablefemalecousin78
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1eHpuY21ka2VhY3FwNWNhZHYxeHlrNjFqN3lmMDJ4azl4MDFjbDJ2bCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/8j2rxLI5kEKTzIDTVX/200w.webp
NonyGony
Hexidimentional
it is insane that there is the possibility of an UNRELATED rifle just being hidden nearby but if it happened wow, they wasted their time and the real killer got away with it lmao
neithermenoryou
Highly unlikely. Note the phrasing that they can't prove a link, that does not mean the bullet wasn't fired from that rifle, it only means that specific fragment can not be used to make that call. It's entirely possible the fragment recovered was from a part of the bullet that didn't touch the barrel itself, like near the tip, thus can't have those markings they need. Similarly it could have been deformed enough to be unable to tell whether the scratches are from the barrel or Kirk's neck bones.
Hexidimentional
i'm just musing that they're trying to raise doubt
Punkimus
Why do a lot of these Maga idiots have weak/no chins? Has anyone else noticed this? Or am I late to the party?
DukePhelan
It's been a thing for a little while.
TheBreadTurtle
if you're talking about Robinson, i'm pretty sure he's not maga
Ggbambi
Just a groyper
TheBreadTurtle
idk if he's even that. i know a lot of people were claiming he killed kirk because he felt kirk wasn't maga enough or some shit, but he literally said he killed kirk because he was tired of the kind of hatred kirk was espousing
Ggbambi
Fair fair
Eyeetsass
Why are we doing this? Erika Kirk forgave him. Send the boy home. Quit fucking with him.
OrangeFlavours
Because that's not how the law works? You don't get to forgive someone for murder because they were your spouse, it's still murder.
Eyeetsass
My god man. The thickness of your head is mythical.
OrangeFlavours
Explain then, what part of that's not clear?
Eyeetsass
I’m making fun of Erika Kirk, as is my right, and duty.
OrangeFlavours
See, that's perfectly valid, that wasn't very clear, I'll take some blame for missing that.
quade
"He had children, as do many vile people."
emu314159127001
Yeah, i loved that when that United Healthcare puke bought it, some people were like, "He had a family " And? Do i GAF?
HashMaster9k
My response always was "so did most of the people he killed with his greed and unethical behavior".
emu314159127001
At least they didn't have to watch him die when it could've been prevented. That guy literally looks like one of the pig illustrations from Animal Farm
admiralawesome4213
Mussolini had children, Mao Zedong had children, Stalin had children, etc. Just because you can or did *have* children, does not automatically mean you were a bad parent and also arent a terrible human being at the same time
ilhares
Considering how many offspring are created purely accidentally and unintentionally, applying any virtue to it at all is absurd.
nimeton0
Have you seen the fountain?
Feralkyn
Maybe there's no good use for AI, but that one is at least borderline acceptable
DaveSamsonite
Doubles as a urinal
B99Reactions
someone could draw or edit that, don't have to use ai
XuncuTheTiger
On the other hand; putting *effort* into drawing *him.*
blaghart
As a reminder: bullet fragments are virtually impossible to conclusively link to the weapon that fired them. At best you can get a general idea of the caliber. The Dark Knight and other media that show destroyed bullets being reconstructed to provide viable data are lying through their teeth to make you think cops are smarter than they really are. In reality proving you did a crime is very difficult if you have the means to fight it.
RecurringNightmare
calling the dark knight out is kinda weird, its a superhero movie, of course batman does shit that doesnt work in real life, similar how superman can fly...
psugab
Your last line is the basics of the judicial system.
Nooooooooooooooooooooo
Imagine how much people got away with before dna. I mean you basically just didn't have to get caught in the moment.
Fahrenheit536
......Unless you were the wrong color, or the wrong sexuality, or expressed the wrong gender, or were poor, or were convenient, or were in the wrong place at the wrong time, or.......
SuitablyIronicMoniker
Also, entertainment media embellishes forensic capabilities for dramatic effect, not so much copaganda
Dyamonde
Zoom and enhance!
swofromtherock
Both. Definitely both.
WaitingForTheDrop
It doesnt sound like they have any conclusive evidence beyond the fragment either. The DNA is just consistent with him and not 100% his DNA? Possibly multiple DNA profiles on it? I couldn't sentence someone to die based off evidence that is only "consistant" with a person. How many other people is it "consistant" with? Plenty probably of doubt there.
blaghart
fun fact, in many states you can't be on a jury for a death penalty case if you don't support the death penalty!
WaitingForTheDrop
I did not know that. I hope I dont get down voted to hell but I believe in it, it just gotta be like a serial killer & 100% certainty beyond any doubt the person is guilty. Evidence that is "consistant" with a person I'd not be able to give them that sentence. I'd be bias anyway, I don't think we really lost anything from kirk's death. Gotta weigh both life values if u wanna look at a life for a life. I'd say this kid has more promise than Kirk. I'd consider a lesser sentence, not death.
aRabidGerbil
You have to be willing to support the death penalty in whatever way it is currently being sought. The idea is that, if you oppose the penalty that the prosecutor is seeking, then you cannot be an impartial juror.
SpikesGuns
Yeah, that part of Dark Knight always felt really weak to me. Especially where he fires several bullets, then takes the original for comparison and he's like "Oh, the hole this one made looks the most like the other hole." Then based ONLY on that, reconstruction the bullet completely, and pulls a perfect fingerprint off of it. Fantastic overall movie, but still requires a huge suspension of disbelief.
RecurringNightmare
well, hes motherfucken batman, he can do shit the cops cant...thats why its a superhero movie...
ihugpeople
Unless science is different in batman's universe, what he was shown to do is impossible, but it is Hollywood so a suspension of facts is allowable.
RecurringNightmare
bruh, science is in fact literally different in batmans universe, its a dc comics universe, superman and flash turn back time and shit but when batman takes a fingerprint its "impossible"...wtf...
ihugpeople
Read my logic again. Or a simple restate, if the science is different, then it is possible. The biggest problem with how the movie showed it was using the scientific method, thus not using a different system.