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#politics #seriously_though_wtf #mildly_interesting
Jul 5, 2022 4:50 PM
mfrybeasley
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#politics #seriously_though_wtf #mildly_interesting
MurasakiArt55
Yeah thats all and well but lets face it, it aint ever gonna happen
xedd82
Maybe consider getting rid of this whole two party thing as well. That way people have to compromise a bit.
mofreckle
that New Girls dad?
georgedragonslayer
There has definitely been significant changes to women's rights, gun safety, and the environment. Some of us just don't like the changes.
sharikov
duhqueenmoki
Also nationwide protests where we hold corporations captive until they meet our demands ?
Nunyajonesinc
They are actively planning to overthrow our government. Playing by the rules isn't working anymore. Get ready for the violence
TongueTiedLabourerfromtheLandoftheLittlePeople
There's a middle ground of civil disobedience. Slower but less likely to have a pr backlash.
AlonzoMoselyFBI
Aim for all the seats, ffs.
mindstorm8191
Yes; vote out every GOP. Tell friends to do so too. Get them to talk w/ other friends. Ppl need to talk more about politics in this country
RawSuger
hodor hodor hodor ho-congress
Devylin
True, true, true.
neocow
they could pause and kill the filibuster today???????
djangojazz
Or just get rid of Sinema. I don't get how Georgia just voted on Warnock, yet he is already up for revote. I thought the Senate got six yr
thatsbadmmkay
And even then Biden wont abolish the filibuster and will tell us we just need to vote more. I hate it here.
BadAsprin
Rob is Right
loedout
To be clear, it will get much much worse if we don't do anything.
fractalsphere
amiurume
This election is going to determine whether or not we keep our democracy.
hardytardigrade
Very, very likely to be the case. And the people saying it doesn't matter whether we vote, or "Dems won't do anything" are helping the GOP.
SyfyNerd
What democracy? As a Black man, I have rarely witnessed this democracy you speak of.
JiffyDealer
None of that matters if SCOTUS allows state legislatures to throw out election results.
frigidmagi2
SCOTUS won't hear it until after this election.
hardytardigrade
It matters a lot actually- SCOTUS won't be reviewing that case until 2023 and Congress may be able to act to mitigate things before then.
PeaceBaby
Some people are NOT smart. These messages must include very clearly: Vote for DEMOCRATS. Democrats - not "vote blue," not just "vote."
Sully0811
People have been voting, it hasn't been working. Time for ball bats to the knees.
naahz
or just kill fillibuster now
wr8070m98
So what are the best organizations to donate to or volunteer at in order to help? Anything unconventional or innovative?
wr8070m98
Most mainstream dem. Orgs. Seem to just squander $ on ineffective ad buys and door knocking. Anyone trying something new?
wr8070m98
I'd love to see someone helping Dems relocate to battleground states, or organizing to provide direct services to people in need
wr8070m98
Rather than spend XXX million dollars on ads, set up a Dem group Healthcare plan that runs at cost! Use money to fix local problems
wr8070m98
I door knocked for Beto's senate campaign. It was horribly organized. We got sent to places already canvassed all the time.
JinxRocks
GOP: plans to end social security & medicare (Graham rant from 2 weeks ago), wants to ADd another 10% tax ("American Tithes"), and they(1/3)
JinxRocks
are already stripping your privacy rights - LE can legally get your online search history now, South Carolina wants health records to (2/3)
JinxRocks
be searchable w/o warrant or consent, too. Are you SURE you can afford to vote GOP? And comfortable with scrutiny, too? Vote them OUT! (3/3)
CrisprCAS
Good chance in NC, OH, PA, and WI. Should hold GA, too. Unless SCOTUS guts democracy more.
Volimar
Tim Ryan and Fetterman are looking good for sure. Donate to Ryan if you can.
gwydd
Vote and...?
OhJesus
Get involved with voter outreach. The more people vote, the better chance to beat the R's. Complacency is what defeats us every time.
RummageSaleBubbler
We don't need to add two Senate seats, we need to replace two specific senators.
pgdave
You want to replace Manchin? With who? What liberal do you think is going to get elected in a state that voted 30 points for Trump?
RummageSaleBubbler
Fine point. His 2018 results were a slim margin, far worse than his 2012. My assumption is he'll be gone either way; may as well replace.
pgdave
He's solidly helped get the judiciary better the past few years - if we can keep him he's a good ally to have and 10000% better than a GOP.
RummageSaleBubbler
True; far better than GOP.
Chereazi
At least 2. I'd recommend more than 2 to be safe. Dems are not a hive mind, opposing opinions are allowed
JColdIron
Unless you are Manchin... then the rest think you are the Devil when you don't fall in line.
whipster
Could make a move to make DC and PR states, adding 4 senate seats and numerous rep seats to congress.
gobblinal
I heard there isn't any amount set in the "Constitution", so why not just throw another 52 at it?
pgdave
Yes, there is a set amount of Senators - it's two from each state. Maybe you were thinking of the House?
gobblinal
I was thinking of the SCOTUS. Maybe that was a previous image I saw.
PleasantPeasantPheasant
The reds on the other hand do seem to be a hive mind but the singular braincell they all shared has died some time ago.
NotABadLookingNarcissist
Meh. Not a hive mind but def organized. Look up Norquist and his Wednesday meetings. He managed to get evangelist, gun rights people, rich1/
NotABadLookingNarcissist
2/ CEOs who wanted their taxes cut, pro cops and pro military folks, libertarians and racists all on the same page despite their differences
mindstorm8191
No, they're just told how to vote by whoever's in charge, and they all vote that way. This is NOT representing their voters
LurkerOfDarkness
2 senate seats? You fucking need to add 19 senate seats.
IainG101
It's 2 seats WHEN COMBINED WITH killing the fillibuster. If that mockery of process stays, it'll need to be 12 seats, minimum.
pgdave
2 would go a very, very long way. And I'm pretty sure it's mathematically impossible to add 19 seats this November.
LurkerOfDarkness
It's mathematically a possibilty in a senate election, but yes, not in this specific one.
SeasonedCitizen
SCOTUS is actively planning on allowing states to overturn election results.
PutItInNeutral
Only way to stop that is violence. There is no way enough Democrats get elected in time to remove a single SCOTUS judge.
TiredOfTheBS
That’s why November is so important. We can preempt them if we get the anti filibuster majority this year. 2024 is too late.
PeaceBaby
This is my concern. We need a plan.
Vonmonj
Seems like the type of thing we should have a quick fix for but nah.
Volimar
The decision won't be out before this election. It's not an exaggeration to say this might be our last shot to push back in a long time.
Altanese
I still haven't heard why this couldn't have been done in 2020 if they wanted.
Hightower840
Because 2020 hadn't happened yet. The cases need to be filed before the SCOTUS will hear them. These are due to be heard in October 2022.
Altanese
But why is this particular law necessary? The composition of the Supreme Court has not shifted in power since the 2020 election, and if 1/
Altanese
state legislatures had decided to award electors to Trump rather than to Biden as they should have, it would have gone to the SCOTUS.
Hightower840
If the precedence is established prior to an election the following election can be stolen using the SCOTUS case as the justification. 1/
eightyearplan
Are we using this to engage non-voters in purple and red states to change their state governments? or just doooooom?
SeasonedCitizen
The red states will just overturn the election and say the repubs won.
eightyearplan
That ruling will be next session, after the election. Meanwhile some of the 80 million people who didn't vote last time should be motivated
eightyearplan
https://www.npr.org/2022/07/04/1109667564/broad-repercussions-are-expected-from-a-supreme-court-voting-case-decision-next
KarakLohr
You can’t let that happen. Or that’s the end of your country.
Oogibah
This isn't an allow actually more of a confirmation. The purpose of the electoral college was for them to "vote in the best interests"
Oogibah
They don't have to vote how the people vote, it was designed this way.
PosthumousExile
Wtf can we do about it?!?
astrobio87
We don’t really have a choice. They’re set for life. It’s like political tenure.
TheMadOnion
Which is fucking stupid as hell but whatever. I feel like one should be elected every presidential election the oldest gets booted. Anything
TheMadOnion
Oldest chair not person I might add. Haha
RockKickass
And expand the court to expand voting rights
HeroThatWasNeeded
TWO BILLS! WE HAD TWO BILLS AND THEY COULDN'T EVEN PASS THEM BECAUSE MANCHIN SAID NO!!!! GOD DAMN IT!!!
JColdIron
Manchin AND 50 other Senators. Make bills that more want to support and they will pass.
HeroThatWasNeeded
You realize Republicans don't want to support anything at this point that improves people's lot in life, don't you?
JColdIron
Nice hyperbole.
HeroThatWasNeeded
They voted down PPP, stimulus, etc. Not hyperbole.