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Fixed that for you.
Aug 17, 2020 9:10 PM
SnarkyBear
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Fixed that for you.
Ritchyitchy
I see the point if this but if the green section doesnt complain or protest they why would they need to care?
RocketNewman
“Better start to give a shit! Unless you don’t agree with me, then you’re dumb as shit.”
kc2syk
Missing the 3rd party vote.
nevergoingtogiveyouupnevergoingtoletyoudown
All I see is 25% hated Trump. 26% hated Hilary. 49% hated both.
ControversialLeftistLesbian
If the third party was "I didn't vote, no point" they would win every single time.
soccerk942
And those of us who voted 3rd party?
JohnCoctosten
It doesn't matter red or blue ...they are both shit.
regularnormalguy
As a member of better start to give a shit give me better options
Tundra314
Or we can not vote for either party? And vote as independent
zeroofshadow
imagine having 3 million more votes then the other side and losing due to a fundamentally flawed system
jmille070
See here's why you're retarded. I don't vote Democrat or republican, always third party. Stop thinking this is just a 2 party race.
MrJwinkyface
Last election I voted 3rd party and Imgur hates me for it. It’s sad how hard they will try to suppress any 3rd party views
jmille070
Maybe then, we will start to get somewhere.
EliteSpork
How about actually give them a bold platform to vote for? No? Just gonna stick to the same whitebread politicians? Ok.
frozensoul94
We seriously need the 2 parties to split up a bit... its inviting conflict.
Gamerdragon
Assuming most of the green will vote for Biden
TigerThong
I mean, democracy is being openly threatened, I fuck'n hope so
Gamerdragon
And some people might feel the "American way" is feeling threatened if democrats win. Might need a backup plan
NotHarry2times4
Unacknowledged libertarians.
TigerThong
i mean the electorate does have brain damage but its not that bad.
iguessidontknowhowtospellimaganative
There's dozens of us!
GoblinOfPoliticalSuccubus
I guess if voting third party is not giving a shit, might as well vote Trump so the vote matters. Looks like they need the help.
Memeeater
Nice to see you join the winning side!
dakotab291
Better start to give a shit *as long as you vote for the candidate I want* the maker of this meme.
MrJwinkyface
Yup. It’s a cheap blow
TinySnek
Many literally cannot afford the time off to vote
YouEatYellowSnow
Use vacation, trade a day or shift with a co-worker, vote by mail, no excuses.
katsumiblisk
The problem with this is people who post this automatically think the green guys will vote for their person when in reality they will >
katsumiblisk
> almost certainly vote the same proportions as the people who actually vote, so it doesn't make any difference.
Crimx42
TunaCanBlowOut
Welcome to Ass Diner! You want the wasp soup or the scorpion burger? No, those are the only things we serve.
MrJwinkyface
Shit burger or a turd sandwich. Don’t complain if you did not pick 1 of the 2 bad choices we try to force on you. Never mind 3rd party
DropmDead
You fixed one part, but f'd up another.
SnarkyBear
I saw that. This is a metaphor for my life.
CriticalJudgementalElitistPrick
And how come we are not constantly triggering the fraud with ‘by the way you did NOT win the popular vote in 2016.
cadburyegg
Because then a Republican would never get elected. They literally said so themselves. As did Trump. It's no secret.
jedidachshund
because the popular vote doesn't decide who the president is?
CriticalJudgementalElitistPrick
It’s all about the numbers for the reality tv hack.
onceandfuterking
But it should
TheInfamousKat
If they actually had someone worth voting for it would be this bad. Either option is a fucking joke. (Still gonna vote tho)
jedidachshund
Look into Jo Jorgensen!
TheInfamousKat
Wouldn’t *****
Leeloothedog
PICK YOUR POISON AMERICA. THE EVIL RICH OLD WHITE PEDOPHILE CREEP WHO IS A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR WITH DEMENTIA. NOW IN TWO FLAVORS RED AND BLUE!
vcgetdown
Mm yes give me the polite poison that helps me ignore as the US gov screws me
iguessidontknowhowtospellimaganative
Vote 3rd party. The more votes they get, the more support they get in the future. 5% brings federal funding, 15% gets them in the debates
skellumqt
It's always been like this people always say this. There's no such thing as a mainstream real candidate that will make everyone as happy as
StrangePoster
We need ranked choicw voting
skellumqt
It helps a lot(and is good!), but even with it, they still don't get universal turnout. UK for example has it, only gets ~63% turnout
skellumqt
some fuzzy cutout people can project their hopes and dreams onto. That's just the reality of having a real candidate and not just ideals
Findrek
I don't need hopes and dreams, just maybe not owned by party or lobbyists, no sexual assault and under 60 atleast, preferably 50
RealBarackObama
I dunno, Obama was pretty badass.
Dalael
Here's the problem. People will vote against Trump. But only because he's terrible. Not because the democrats are exciting them or promising
IainG101
Voting Trump out however is a start. You can 100% guarantee whatever he does will be worse for future democracy than whatever Biden does.
Dalael
change from.the pre-Trump ststus quo. Even if Trump lose.. in 4 years plenty of people will.go back to not voting, or voting republican
Dalael
and Trump is not going to be the only garbage person the republicans will try to elect. So democrats need to change and stop being corporate
Dalael
Centrists otherwise this ehold bullshit is just goimg to be on hold.
SerenePrincess013
In this instance, I'm perfectly ok with voting against Heil Hitler, as long as the orange monkey gets out of D.C. In handcuffs.
iguessidontknowhowtospellimaganative
There's literally no incentive for them to change though, they know they don't have to do anything and people will still vote for them
iguessidontknowhowtospellimaganative
Based on emotion, and tribalism
MrJwinkyface
No amount of vote shaming is going to make me vote for a candidate I don’t want as president. This tactic is stupid
kc2syk
3rd party votes exist.
MrJwinkyface
Yes!
iguessidontknowhowtospellimaganative
Find one you do, they're out there and supporting those parties now means they get more support in the next election. 5% gets federal fundin
TigerThong
you need to learn how to vote it seems. A. no candidate is perfect. B. between these 2 you can easily find one that pushes your values
MrJwinkyface
Wrong. I know how to vote. I pick the candidate them best represents my views. That’s not always 1 of the major 2.
TigerThong
you'll literally never have that opportunity as everyone's views are so individualistic. So you weight your values find whats closest
MrJwinkyface
That’s what I do. And last election, it was a 3rd party.
MrJwinkyface
I do not have to listen to your shitty argument and pick of 1 of the 2. I can pick other candidates if they align with my values.
TigerThong
you can sure, but statistically you're living in fantasy land.
MrJwinkyface
I will not be complicit by voting for a candidate that does not match my values. This is the 4th time I’m 2 days I’ve had the argument
MrJwinkyface
Your idea is degrading to democracy and insults the election process
TigerThong
its simply how it works. you cant deny the reality that this system isn't a true democracy. well you can, but you're wrong
MrJwinkyface
You are trying to make people pick between 2 candidates. Reality, there are more than 2 running. If we dropped your bs argument/
MrJwinkyface
And voted who best fits, more votes would go to other candidates. Instead people buy into your bad idea and vote the lesser of 2 evils.
MrJwinkyface
Want to save time? Go read the comments I already posted earlier by a goon that wanted to keep putting out the same argument
TigerThong
the goon lol. Its literally reality. I get it you're trying to be an idealist but nope. not how it works IRL
MrJwinkyface
There is no argument I’ve not heard from people like you. You are wasting your time.
MrJwinkyface
I will not vote for a candidate I don’t want as president. I will vote for the candidate that best aligns with my views.
TigerThong
Literal fascism in power. but sure. yeah. nows the time to get picky about something insignifcant
icommentwithsteveharvey
Encouraging people to vote?
KoalaOnTheJuice
Just imagine if the Dems offered something exciting for a change. Like Medicare for YOU, free college for YOUR KIDS & corruption BANNED.
KoalaOnTheJuice
The red part might not jump to blue, but I've a feeling that green part of the pie would shrink a bit!
LurkingAtTheOffice
GoblinOfPoliticalSuccubus
This kind of shaming post only encourages me to vote Trump
GoblinOfPoliticalSuccubus
Where are the posts on biden getting to the front page, saying how good of a candidate he is? I've seen none.
icommentwithsteveharvey
Where are the posts on trump getting to the front page, saying how good of a candidate he is? I've seen none
GoblinOfPoliticalSuccubus
Doesn't matter, trump supporters aren't shaming me on the sites I'm on so they're actively pissing me off less.
GoblinOfPoliticalSuccubus
You'd think a liberal site could get their candidate to the front page.
GoblinOfPoliticalSuccubus
(hint, he's not progressive he's status quo joe)
CrazyCatDaddy
Red and Blue need to give green someone worth voting for. If people dont think green gives a shit.
weidermeijer
Not having fascism IS A PRETTY EFFING GOOD REASON.
orzhvopatriarch
I'm gonna vote for Biden, but it does feel weird that after crapping on progressive last time made many of them stay home 1/2
orzhvopatriarch
that they are doubling down on it again and demanding voters change their behavior instead of the party changing how it does things.
Memeeater
What progressiv policy would you like to see?
orzhvopatriarch
For a start i would like it if progressive voices in office were given more speaking time then actual GOP ex-governor John Kasich at the DNC
SaintCody
I think a lot of people in green would vote if they werent forced to "Vote for the one you hate less". Thats not a great motivator.
Findrek
Hell if the party loyalists just quit acting like anybody not devoted to either cult absolutely owed them their vote it'd be a start.
TigerThong
lets be honest the electorate is borderline retarded. talk to any non voter they have no idea whats going on.
DeusExSpockina
I think “not ending up in a fascist failed state” is a pretty good choice for the ballot box.
SailorJimmy
I see it as Chemo for the country. It's gonna suck, but we can't leave the tumor in that will surely kill us
iguessidontknowhowtospellimaganative
This. Biden supporters are super pissy about 3rd party voters. Sorry your candidate is shit and doesn't have any progressive ideals.
Memeeater
What are some examples of progressive policy you would ike to see?
TigerThong
so you dont know Biden's policies. Go for a read, college loan forgiveness, green new deal, he's more left than previous pres candidates.
Winnert
you mean the nominees? technically i think hillary was more progressive than him. but whatever. he's not progressive, unfortunately.
MasterPrime
The problem is the only people running for office are politicians. If you want someone worth voting for nominate someone.
iguessidontknowhowtospellimaganative
Haha, good luck. Maybe on the R ticket your can, but the Democratic party picks who they want, and tells the people to settle
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CrazyCatDaddy
And what I seen from 2016. We get what the Democrats and Republicans want to shove down our throats.
CrazyCatDaddy
I'm from Broward County, Florida. The whole Wasserman-Schultz fiasco convinced me of that. We dont really have a choice who runs for ...
CrazyCatDaddy
..either side. If my choice is Democrat or Republican.
skellumqt
That assumes green would give a shit even if someone was worth voting for. the problem is green doesn't give a shit regardless
EliteSpork
You’re stupid. If the world worked like that then why the fuck do other countries have such higher voter participation rates than us??
skellumqt
We're on the low end, but not that much of an OECD outlier (link below). And the difference likely has to do with diff systems/contexts
skellumqt
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/05/21/u-s-voter-turnout-trails-most-developed-countries/
skellumqt
For example, most of those on the top end (Australia etc) have compulsory voting. And there are other differences. We're massively lower in
sliveroflight
I'm not voting for either Trump or Biden because I care. I'm voting in the other polls because the election isn't just PotUS.
CrazyCatDaddy
I'm in the green and give a shit. And I'm sure most of the green give a shit. The 2 parties just need to give us someone worth our vote.
TigerThong
people in green thing a perfect candidate exists. That'll never be the case because humans suck. pick the best one
Winnert
actually i'm voting green this year because both the red and blue candidates suck, and in 2024 i'm voting the people's party
skellumqt
Why are you so sure? People in the green have always said that, reality is any real candidate won't live up to that worthiness as much as an
EliteSpork
Interesting that you can apparently see inside the minds of over 100,000,000 Americans. Where’d you learn to do that.
skellumqt
Interesting that you don't think we can make observations of people's values based on how they repeatedly act to different situations
skellumqt
imagined one. especially when they need to appeal to the rest of the electorate.Some greens care, most don't and use worthiness as an excuse
CrazyCatDaddy
My view of what I see what people think about the candidates. Are from what I see posted on the Internet and from the news.
CrazyCatDaddy
Dont give them the choice of a turd or a garbage heep.
iwishjtmoneywasstillavailableitsmyoldvideogamemoniker
Our choices are racist pedophile or racist pedophile, I can't vote for either, I won't vote for either.
ObtuseDoorFrame
There's proof Trump is a pedophile. Do we have anything on Biden other than footage of him touching shoulders inappropriately?
HalloIamherenow
What if we could start a new election when "Didn't vote" is the clear winner?
MrBrainslowski
Simple. Our rulers won't allow that.
delilahviolet
Didn’t vote should be automatic third party votes. And if you don’t like it..then go vote. (I’m kidding around btw)
Updoodilydoo
I believe "None of these options" is an option in Nevada, or something like it
JustAthena
Make voting mandatory and easy for everyone to do, then give out fines to those who don't vote.
TheOtherGLG20
ImBadWithNamesCallMeRed
So, wait.. If all these non-voters voted for 3rd party canditate, would they win or would electroral college still choose between 2 parties?
Galkurion
If someone like Jill Stein or Gary Johnson had won a plurality of votes in a given state, those electors would have been allocated to 1/
Galkurion
that candidate. We would have ended up with the EC vote looking like XXX-YYY-ZZ if no candidate garnered 270 EC votes, then the house 2/
Galkurion
would decide. As a result, if you want to see a 3rd party president, the best route forward would be to get 3rd party representatives in 3/
Galkurion
office. If there were 50 green representatives and the green candidate got more EC votes than the dems they'd likely form a coalition party.
icommentwithsteveharvey
DasOgre
That’s scary. I’m proud of my state of Minnesota being one of few that has a decent turn out
notkvothethebloodless
Then Norman, the psychopath AI fed only violent content off Reddit, is elected in place of a human candidate
CarpoolTunnelSyndrome
I for one can support this option.
Kevinflynn360
That may be preferable at this point
KellyCrazyCatLadyinTraining
O.O
GamingMule
You’d never have any leadership.
FunkyTheFox
Couldn’t be worse
VesselOfHate
True. Second proposition: voting is compulsory, and rather than just kicking the can down the road, also ranked choice.
f0622
Belgium had no government for months and life was as usual.
shinagami091
Better than what we have now
bayesiancuttlefish
Would that really be worse?
XIXXXVIVIII
Nothing changes vs An autistic orangutan tries to dismantle everything that his predecessors created because of an inferiority complex? hmm.
aahoss
Perfect!
godcixelsyd
What changed exactly? /S
TrojanGiraffe
I would prefer no leadership over malicious leadership.
Kunitsu
yeah honestly we might be better off
dcostanza1
This is actually the fatal flaw that took down the Weimar republic. They had like 10 elections in 2 years since the Catholic center (1/)
dcostanza1
Form a govt with a Nazi chancellor under president Hindenburg, a conservative. As the country got more fed up with failed elections (3/)
dcostanza1
Was biggest but less than half, and the Nazi and communists wouldn't join a govt as a minority. So eventually center party agreed to (2/)
dcostanza1
The extreme parties would just continue gaining share.
StarkRG
That was a very unusually-posted and difficult to read thread. Just reply to each comment, it's much easier that way.
dcostanza1
Sorry for the inconvenience.
StarkRG
Sorry if I came off snarky. I really just meant to provide constructive criticism so you could do it in a better way next time.
Dimestream
I'd pick a "No confidence" vote where if that wins, both parties have to pick a different candidate and try again
battery1979
That'd be a great option.
Galkurion
Sadly in that world we'd be stuck with Trump until the new leadership is chosen
RagingNorseman
Looks good for the Green party!
getguds
and suddenly the two party strangle hold had no republicans involved, yay!
noctynight
Cuz all of us are gonna die.
WeirdAlsNumber206Fan
We need ranked voting!
theyamayamaman
not giving a shit for the win!!
SquatttingDog
Nader? I hardly know her!
HatinS8N
I’m guessing the “better give a shit crew” is only popular if they vote for the candidate you like.
cado77
Every vote for the green party is vote for trump. Every write in vote, is a vote for trump. Pop
jrredneck
So you are stuck wanting a 2 party system? Cant imagine someone else winning outside of D or R.
haco1234
That fact you think that is the reason why we only have two parties...
SailorJimmy
Well, because of the Electoral College, my state is going blue, so it doesn't matter who I vote for. So, yeah. WRITING IN RIC FLAIR AGAIN!!!
MrJohnWick
sgnight13
I'mma just...take this...real quick...
Dongskanker
haco1234
I registered for Green Party! This is our generation! The time to comeback is now!!
SquatttingDog
Please don’t waste your vote until 2024
haco1234
I mean I’ve already registered but Biden is the only choice soooo.
SailorJimmy
Biden has been working with Sanders and Warren for his policies. We need to excise the tumor then work on getting better.
Philosopherott
While libertarian, don't get my hopes up people would wake up and vote third party like green.
ihateyouallandyouhatemetoo
im going jojo, though im not as much of a fan of her as i was for gary johnson.
omnipotentpasta
Certainly not enough people
Thrawnsrevenge
Im going Jo Jorgensen
allibaster12
It has been stated on here many times that voting for green party or another 3rd party is "voting for Trump". So maybe if you wanted people
allibaster12
To vote for the party you align with, maybe everyone should stop saying that and start saying "vote for whoever you think is best qualified
allibaster12
To run our country"? Or is that just too insane a thought?
INeedMoreGifMeMoreJustOneMore
Due to the state of American politics, I can't really see this work properly, unfortunately.
TimbitsAreDonutHoles
It's a perfectly sane thought. Just won't work in the US. Recall Teddy's Bull Moose party. 30% of votes, still lost.
Philosopherott
That is blatantly false. It is a vote for your choice. It is also your choice to vote against someone strategically. Most people do the 2nd.
allibaster12
Exactly. Dont hate me for stating what everyone on here says. Its an imgur mind that if you vote for anyone else other than Biden, its trump