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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/937109615698894848
Researchers at the University of Southampton have discovered a way to store data in five dimensions on nanostructure glass that can survive for billions of years. ... The storage method enables up to 360TB of capacity on a disc about one-inch in diameter that can withstand temperatures of up to 1,000 degrees Celsius and has a virtually unlimited lifetime at room temperature.
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3034260/data-storage/superman-memory-crystals-could-store-data-for-billions-of-years.html
spicesniffer
Left,right,up,down and.. around?
UnhelpfulAnswers
That's gonna revolutionize the way we store porn
drGrozozo
Stores data for 14B+ years. Becomes obsolete tech after 5y and nothing can read it.
lordbucket
*Sigh* and so now what happens when some totally innocent alien race finds that in a couple billion years after humans are long gone?
drewcrosby
YES. I've been waiting for this for two decades now. GIVE ME MY CRYSTAL DRIVE ALREADY.
ICarpeYourDiems
For those who haven't read the article, they use X, Y, Z, Sex, Breakfast
AjKaramba
official site: https://www.5dmemorycrystal.com/technology
Moosly
Could you imagine playing a game that is 360TB? Like holyshit GTA 10 is going to be the world
justanotherenthusiast
That's a lot of porn...
seedye
Oops. Lost all of western civilization in the sofa cushions.
BondSpaceBond
I would've def picked a different book to save eternally...
kalinroar
Just think you could put half of porn hub on that thing.
DostoevskyDisciple
thanks for the laugh. this is an underrated comment right here!
Nikolai5
I wouldn't be too concerned with it on a personal level as you won't be getting anything that uses those in your home anytime soon.
NuffCuts
As someone that works at the university of the Southampton, this is pretty awesome research and the potential leap in storage is enormous.
MiddleTiddy
MidLifeChrysler
Guess I'll have to buy the White album again.
NZSheeps
You do know Elvis is dead? No, he just went home.
dangerrat
hmmmm, burst coin would like this.... https://www.burst-coin.org/
GoldberrySassdaughter
I’m assuming it can’t be edited though?
Oloedon
Imagine this outlives the human race, someone will find it but maybe he won't know how to read it
Oloedon
Furthermore, what if there is already data somewhere around us, stored in a manner we don't recognize or we're unable to read...
Cptnlnsan0
thsi technology and they print the fuckin Bible .... WTF is wrong with people
GinoGualtieri
So no one has watched Black Mirror?
EatAFatDick
Like Star Trek!
Pundamentalist
Using glass for this sounds like a smashing idea
pickinganameistoomuchpressure
BUT IS IT RW???
ineedtotalkaboutsomethings
Glass is actually a liquid that melts over time. This stuff is not glass. The more you know.
chargeling
Just because it is named a glass, quartz silica glass does not behave like the typical glass you know.
Pundamentalist
MasterPrime
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fused_quartz#Typical_properties_of_clear_fused_silica
minepagan
It's destined to shatter some records
FN2187Traitor
Buh dum tisss
imgurnaknockuout
If I throw one of these crystals in the snow, will it build a fortress of solitude for me?
orbitsteve
Truely amazing storage.. but when apocalypse happens, we won't have the technology to decipher it.
rivitingone
Same goes for likely all digital storage.
ignorantbastrd
I think the idea is to leave something behind for a future civilization or if aliens come after we've killed ourselves. Electronics 1/2
ignorantbastrd
Probably won't be able to last nearly as long in this instance. 2/2
Nomtombouts
How the hell would they be able to translate it even if it survived.
TwoCheese
Leave a Rosetta Stone
Nomtombouts
Do you understand why that was useful?
Anonawesome
We can leave one of mine. I have way too many of those things.
Dragonboy393
But how much would it cost?
MechanusIncarnate
Same tech as microchip fabrication. Millions of dollars to set up, then under 100 bucks per item after that.
DeepThought78
Given that it's not mentioned in the article on their website, but they're tweeting @elonmusk... I would say, a lot.
TheRealDurdan
Give it a couple of years at it’ll be $60 at your nearest retailer
MothMonsterMan
Yes.
NuffCuts
Won't be long before they're receiving big investment from a tech giant such as Microsoft for the work.
AceOfNines
How can you put a price on having a snapshot in 2048 of the complete contents of Facebook today?
IamNOTatomato12
At least 1.
MrPhox
And the first thing they put on that is a freakin biblle? why?
ChainmailleAddict
Say what you want about religion but it's the most popular book of all time, and instantly recognizable.
UWAGAGABLAGABLAGABA
As someone pointed out in another comment thread. The Bible was the first thing printed using a new medium. Keeping with continuity, prob.
trumanmanmanman
Thats pretty awesome, But why the bible?
seedye
The Bible measures exactly 360 TB in the original language, w/ all variations. Little known fact. Mostly because it’s not true.
daydark1337
Why care?
looker42
The bible was the first book to be mass-distributed. Even if you're not religious it is symbolic for distributing knowledge in new ways.
themotobeard3000
I know right, what a waste.
krotoan
Common knowledge of how thick the book is vs how tiny the storage looks. I suppose they could have used a dictionary too.
NZSheeps
The discs didn't have the capacity for your porn collection
1414145691
test of concept, they designed it to hold their gay porn originally (if this is UK southampton)
B99Reactions
greatest fairy tale of all time
5678910iloveyou
First book printed on gutenbergs printing press, most printed book of all time. There's a nice continuity to it
Icouri
And everyone who knows of it, knows it's big. So it helps to put a grasp on what kind of volume is on the disc
trumanmanmanman
Thank you for that :)
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theyar
Haven't you seem Book of Eli? If only he could get his hands on that book, he'd have unlimited power!
AceWylden
Peace of mind, entertainment, with a tint of history seems useful
Delcaran
Bible is useful, as is talmud, Quran, and almost every other book: it tells something, but what it's up to the reader.
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DrThaAwesome1
2edgy4me
Beepity
/r/im14andthisisdeep
ShiraZen
As much as I agree with you, the bible is important in a history of spreading information as the first mass printed book.
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ShiraZen
Atheist here. Who cares. Let people do what they want.
7uring
Better question, if the block in the middle is the whole Bible why waste all that space with the heading?
FireEmoji
A E S T H E T I C
Qualtagh
A label so it can be identified by the naked eye? It would suck to have to scan it to know which disk you have.
RamblinRedRooster
It doesn't appear that the block is the bible either. Looks like the creation of man picture, which made me curious where the data is at all
RamblinRedRooster
*Creation of Adam, sorry about that
ColonelCasual
The text and the picture are just aesthetic, the data is encoded on the tiny, barely visible, square between the two.
sendmeshirtlesskylorenmemes
why not?
chargeling
An entire copy of Wikipedia, in all languages (if that even fits) , would have been a better demo, imho.
chargeling
Because it doesn't really demonstrate the >100TB storage capacity.
hardhart
What the hell do they mean five dimensions. Oh look, we're writing with strings or some shit.
Sauroctonus
Funny you should mention writing with strings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quipu
CziltangBrony
Whatyouregonnawannado
Noone really knows what's happening any more.
yelracenna
best comment.
AjKaramba
https://www.5dmemorycrystal.com/technology
fraggerinred
You write in 3 dimensions and then you write in one more dimension and then... This is the best part... You write in one MORE dimension.
FuzzyNutSak
Nomtombouts
Thanks, science side of imgur
FernandoRumdebum
Checks out
thefuckwouldiwantacaravanthatsgotnofuckinwheels
sciencebitch.gif
Taleboblen
mculp17
You can think of dimensions more as parameters of an operator. Even more mind blowing is that you can have infinite dimensional operators.
Thesteveadin
"i didnt read the article which would tell me, i just wanted to be sassy"
Rubberduckz1lla
Basically the depth into the glass that the information is inscribed on
superbob201
3 dimensions from position, 2 dimensions from the Jones vector
mindolluin
HannibalPoopsPeople
Next time, skip right to that sweet sweet Jones vector.
mculp17
I was trying to understand what the were meaning by orientation in the article. After looking up Jones calculus this makes sense. Thank you!
ShradersOfTheLostArk
Upvoted to pretend I know wtf that means. Not looking to learn, just to feel smart.
LeadByBadExample
Oh, of course. The Jones vector. That makes perfect sense.
throwyourhandsintheair
superbob201
Fair enough. Basically, light polarization has two degrees of freedom, which means two extra 'dimensions' as far as information is concerned
Slander7
You can derive its element pattern from the Corning proof if you know how to resolve subsample wave shifts.
modarng
Oh, of course. Subsample wave shifts. That makes perfect sense.
lazidog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkF73zv8qas
triedtothinkofausernamethatwasntalreadytaken
Funny how all this future tech tends to be predicted decades in advance by freaking Tv shows
sensoryte
it's similar to proteines, they exist in 3 dimensions but they have more dimensions of information/function, primary, secondary, tertiary
LiamNeesonOfficial
Data=f(v,w,x,y,z). Not some reality altering scifi marketing bullshit. Masturbating=f(horny,time,wifi speed,battery charge, privacy) 5D,also
Paasimus
Just to clarify to those without mathematical proficiency, those are variables, not actual mathematical dimensions.
LiamNeesonOfficial
"Real 5D is 5 orthogonal direction vectors. Your petty 3D mind would not understand" -5th Dimensional Hipster
titaniumspine
It means that Mr. Mxyzptlk can read it without an external decoder.
Munchman347
If you didn't have to Google the spelling of his name, see your Doctor about your terminal nerdism...
Lowjob
5 axis might be more correct maybe?
Dingus2
No. They're using the mathematical definition of dimension, not the physical one.
NotShakespearesSchool
Actually -- given that they finally admit there is no dark matter. Give them another 10 years and string theory will be out the door too
NotShakespearesSchool
Yeah. Go ahead and red all ya want. Gene Roddenberry told ya crystal storage is coming. Wait until you see tesseract tech.
MyNameIsJesusAndIStealHubcapsFromCars
without reading it, i would guess there are five defining variables to read an individual bit. locations x, y, z, yaw, and pitch.
MyNameIsJesusAndIStealHubcapsFromCars
2.) in this way multiple bits could theoretically share parts of a physical location. think about those Lego sculptures that cast different
MyNameIsJesusAndIStealHubcapsFromCars
3.) shadows depending on how it is rotated.
Mortinious
Would like to know that aswell
joe6paques
Three dimensions to locate a point in the chip, polarization of the light, and “size”, which I can’t figure out.
ICarpeYourDiems
size, as in how large the dot is.
Mortinious
Cool
AnActualSwarmOfBees
From the article: memory is encoded using the size, orientation, and 3d position of the storage structures.
JimWest
But are those orthogonal?
FlowVector
Hmm... Assuming they can't overlap in any way I'd say they are at least independent
Xyzair
Maybe next week,
Dranton12
Is that not more along the line of 3 dimensions and 2 parameters?
Demauscian
Dimensions are parameters, a dimension does not necessarily need to be spacial.
AnythingMuchShorter
This is correct in the sense that a 5D array can exist. If they said 5 SPATIAL dimensions that would be BS.
CorvusSolus
Yes and no. A bit would be encoded as (S,O,X,Y,Z)
FlowVector
Semantics, mathematically any variable is another dimension. Commonly people use it to imply spacial dimensions.
PirateRubberDuck
Yeah but people call all kinds of things dimensions. Different industries have different definitions of words. Just go with it.
GiveMeCorndogOrGiveMeDeath
Thank you..
lazidog
Any parameter that can be transposed onto a number line can basically be used as a dimension like on an XY coordinate plane
lazidog
if you have 4 parameters that range from one number to another the way the x and y axis do you can create a graph with those 4 axes
lazidog
you can then even graph functions and create shapes in those 4 axes to solve problems
Azaer
The word dimension isn't being strictly used to refer to dimensions of space here, just dimensions of variables that can be altered
Azaer
Its like saying I have 20ish dimensions to identify a face: various part size, shape, skin color, eye color, feature orientation, hair,
PanykFelidae
...which, informationally speaking, is a correct statement and how it's usually worded
Valondra
Dimensions are parameters. I'm not sure whether to tell you to be more or less literal.
modarng
I don't follow your logic. "[All] dimensions are parameters" doesn't mean "[all] parameters are dimensions".
javertclaudevandamme
dimension just means axis on a graph. you can graph this in 5 dimensions (or on 5 axes): size=x, orientation=y, len=z, width=a, height=b
OphelianAshe
All I can think of is the explanation for the Stargate address system.
CaptainLegot
Yep, it's all linear algebra
ThrowTheAccountAway
Linear... Lines... 2D?!
buggeredifiknow
At that point I think you can just concede it's confusing without basic explanation.
ZimDaFox
That's the problem of a technical term becoming part of day-to-day speech. People don't learn the more subtle aspects of the term.
EngineerYo
A dimension is a state needed to fully describe something. We live in 3 dimensions because you need x,y,z to fully define location. (1/2)
EngineerYo
To fully define one of these bits, you must tell its size, orientation, and x,y,z. instead of (x,y,z), you'd write it as (s,o,x,y,z) (2/2).
iamamitten
with a shuffled s,o, maze on the medium and a basic index of words at specific x,y,z, would it be feasible to recreate DOS game manuals?
kaegro
Good explanation!