There was a huge labor shortage in 2022 caused by two things: Hundreds of thousands of workers dying of Covid and millions of immigrants being banned from entering the US. This was one of the major drivers of inflation along with corporate greed, interrupted supply lines, and Trump's massive $4 trillion deficit in 2020.
I've soured on working a bit because I've spent 6 years scratching and clawing to find full time employment in my field for which I have 2 degrees. I guess I'm just another lazy entitled millennial.
"Just walk into the place dressed in your best suit, give them a firm handshake, and tell them you'd like a job." -someone who's worked for the same company for 40 years
Substandard wages compared to the origin country, but decent wages in the poor country. Which makes this even more toxic, because the worker/politicians there don't want it to go away, because every alternative is worse.
Why do you think there's such a big push to criminalize as much as possible and fill the endless cells of the Prison Industrial Complex? And the constant outsourcing of labor to foreign countries with easily abused populations and no real accountability for US companies actively running child slave mills?
Slavery never went away - it was just rebranded and shifted slightly to the side where most people wouldn't pay attention to it anymore.
People often enjoy doing work for themselves: fixing stuff, home improvements, landscaping, etc. But no one wants to work as a wage slave to make other people rich under capitalism
I work *for other people* because I have to. I definitely do want to work. I want to tirelessly create things, make a mark, be productive, collaborate, contribute. I genuinely love performing labour both creatively, physically and mentally. I want to solve puzzles and come up with interesting solutions to real problems. I want to work up a sweat. I want to paint the world with my ideas. What I don't want to do is cosplay doing that in order to make enough money to survive to do it again tomorrow
All I want is to stay home, play video games, eat snacks and occasionally masturbate. Which, now that I've typed it out, I realise is literally what some people do for streaming and video content online. I think I might have to consider a career change.
In my experience most people are happy to work towards building a life for themselves and their family. To accomplish something they can be proud of and leave behind for their children and grandchildren. That is not what these people mean by work though. They expect people to be satisfied with drudgery in exchange for hand to mouth subsistence until the day we die and are shocked when we don't thank them for the privilege
Capitalism requires exploitation. The surplus value of the labor is a major part of the profit margin. Notice how industries that are allowed to use slave labor (or near slave labor) fight tooth and nail to protect that slave labor model. The NCAA/NFL pipeline, servers in restaurants, prison labor, teenage labors, technology manufacturers, textile manufacturers, fruit producers, etc.
On some level humans DO want to work; to be productive and creative. It took a lot of wealthy assholes a lot of time and effort to make 'work' so unappealing to the average person. If they stopped trying to force it, and started paying people fairly ("fair" includes a reduction in CEO pay), they wouldn't be having quite so much trouble finding workers!
I told my mom that last time she spouted the phrase. "No one has ever WANTED to work, mom. People like to be active and productive, but WORK is not enjoyable, almost by definition."
I made my hobby my job working in IT. And I do it with passion. And yet even I say that if I were to win the lottery, I would quit the very moment the money is on my bank account and been taken care of (most of it "out of reach" in assets, pay off my house, and have a chunk of it in a trust account that pays a monthly sum adjusting for inflation to live off).
As much as I enjoy my job, I enjoy not working even more. I would do it just like this, but maybe I'd at least give a week or two notice and I'd probably be willing to take calls if they need to tap into my knowledge. For a time.
SOME know, which is honestly the worst part. A portion of them are fully aware of the lie and in on the game, but a progressively larger portion every iteration actually buy into their own bullshit a little more over time. A gradual distillation of dumbassery.
You ultimately end up with braindead rich "businessmen" who've never worked a day in their life, believe the rest of the world exists for them, and endlessly fail upwards without a hint of critical thought or comprehension.
TheDouche
Nobody has ever wanted to work. That’s why people get paid to do it. If “nobody” want to work for you, you aren’t paying enough.
SomeDetroitGuy
There was a huge labor shortage in 2022 caused by two things: Hundreds of thousands of workers dying of Covid and millions of immigrants being banned from entering the US. This was one of the major drivers of inflation along with corporate greed, interrupted supply lines, and Trump's massive $4 trillion deficit in 2020.
MatthewJohnsona
"no one wants to do my shitty menial job with zero job satisfaction and hardly any pay any more."
sirpeterwhite
The people who don't want to work anymore are the landlords, the investors, people who want to life off their money. THAT is the real problem.
cattlegrazer82
Nobody wants to make OC anymore
Illpostcheese
Didn't Socrates write about the youth not wanting to work and being disrespectful?
CommentMalone
I've seen this expressed a number of different ways. This is among the best. Well done. Also, NOBODY WANTS TO MAKE OC ANYMORE. /s
ramblercomet5772
The real history. I didn't even know the ancient Greeks had avocado toast and Starbucks.
fractalsphere
"Nobody wants to be taken advantage of for low wages and lack of advancement" - fixed it for the ages.
CynicalPrints
They say as they get into their car to leave early everyday and take three and four day weekends on the reg.
It’s almost like rich people don’t want to work anymore.
icurays1
AKA "nobody wants to be taken advantage of anymore"
TheWeebleWobler
It's almost like work sucks
Stefnos
the paradox of "nobody wants to work" vs "they all want to work infront of computers makeing lots of money" hmmmm
OriginalAndWitty
There have always been psychopaths since the dawn of history, always looking to exploit others.
ByronGetronfree
Where do you see yourself in 5 years?
Hiding in a toilet cubicle, looking at next-level hologram memes hopefully.
Deathcameawienering
Who the fuk WANTS to work for someone??
YourFellowMan
Nobody wants to pay a living wage anymore.
Subsound
Basic supply and demand. Supply jobs with pay that people want to work and people will work for the company.
They aren't owed employees.
GenshiV
RevRagnarok
The main post has more context tho.
GenshiV
Agreed - I use the condensed version as a response for posts whining about the current generation/workforce being 'lazy.'
BenderSaysNeat
I've soured on working a bit because I've spent 6 years scratching and clawing to find full time employment in my field for which I have 2 degrees. I guess I'm just another lazy entitled millennial.
doctorId
"Just walk into the place dressed in your best suit, give them a firm handshake, and tell them you'd like a job."
-someone who's worked for the same company for 40 years
glovelyday
Wow, looks like ever since slavery was abolished it's been hard to get people to work for substandard wages.
errerac
Actually, the last time I saw a summary like this, I think it went back to Ancient Greece.
sumthinsumthinsumthin
TheWarHymn
Don't forget about desperate immigrants who would work for low wages and long hours.
Jarjarthejedi
"And that's why we need to allow slavery again!" - The modern R party, probably buried somewhere in project 2025 :/
Tumescentpie
Slavery. Was. Never. Abolished!
daguq
So we moved the factories to countries where people have no choice but to work for substandard wages.
Shaileen
Substandard wages compared to the origin country, but decent wages in the poor country. Which makes this even more toxic, because the worker/politicians there don't want it to go away, because every alternative is worse.
MerriMod
Why do you think there's such a big push to criminalize as much as possible and fill the endless cells of the Prison Industrial Complex? And the constant outsourcing of labor to foreign countries with easily abused populations and no real accountability for US companies actively running child slave mills?
Slavery never went away - it was just rebranded and shifted slightly to the side where most people wouldn't pay attention to it anymore.
themobileappisbroken
Nobody actually wants to work.
They want to do things they enjoy.
The lucky ones get paid for it.
Hoptimonium
People often enjoy doing work for themselves: fixing stuff, home improvements, landscaping, etc. But no one wants to work as a wage slave to make other people rich under capitalism
CoachMcgurl
I need to start donating to sperm banks.
Alistairetheblu
semi-related
EMHPicardo
CarlBassett
TheWombatStrikesAgain
I don't know which year he wrote this in, but I'm just gonna say no. The debate is still dominated by the exploiters' narrative.
Fedotia
Guess who owns all the press outlets for such a media environment to persist.
Tootsie1
Then it's time to change the narrative and who's in control. Eat the rich.
anarchoFeline
well we are still a capitalist country so it will always be true until we tear down the exploitative capitalist system
Kreia
2700 BCE "As for man, he will no longer do my bidding and what he do, it is but wind" - Gilgamesh King of Uruk
nothingunused
So, was he saying they just fart around all day?
Kreia
unremarkableasterisk
It's weird that they haven't figured out that we work because we have to, not because we want to.
jrntn
I work *for other people* because I have to. I definitely do want to work. I want to tirelessly create things, make a mark, be productive, collaborate, contribute. I genuinely love performing labour both creatively, physically and mentally. I want to solve puzzles and come up with interesting solutions to real problems. I want to work up a sweat. I want to paint the world with my ideas. What I don't want to do is cosplay doing that in order to make enough money to survive to do it again tomorrow
Shoutrr
and that the pay (if any) they offer isn't suitable for the work they demand
Absent
So you're saying we must increase the cost of living to force workers to work harder? - Some rich cunts in 2019, probably.
ArkoneAxon
Bad news: it predates 2019. The last time the minimum wage was raised was in 2009. It USED to be standard practice to raise it every 2-3 years.
TheGodEmperorOfChaos
You have it all wrong, they know exactly that you have to, not that you want to. Why do you think they pay you so little?
Superchief86
All I want is to stay home, play video games, eat snacks and occasionally masturbate. Which, now that I've typed it out, I realise is literally what some people do for streaming and video content online. I think I might have to consider a career change.
SecondSince
Right?! If i didn't HAVE to work i most likely would not. I most certainly wouldn't work as much or at the job i currently have!
DukeSliscus
managers get so fucking mad when you point this out BTW. "If anyone wanted to be here they'd work in their free time too"
CptRobotNinja
In my experience most people are happy to work towards building a life for themselves and their family. To accomplish something they can be proud of and leave behind for their children and grandchildren. That is not what these people mean by work though. They expect people to be satisfied with drudgery in exchange for hand to mouth subsistence until the day we die and are shocked when we don't thank them for the privilege
Tumescentpie
Capitalism requires exploitation. The surplus value of the labor is a major part of the profit margin. Notice how industries that are allowed to use slave labor (or near slave labor) fight tooth and nail to protect that slave labor model. The NCAA/NFL pipeline, servers in restaurants, prison labor, teenage labors, technology manufacturers, textile manufacturers, fruit producers, etc.
Vortexhelios320
On some level humans DO want to work; to be productive and creative. It took a lot of wealthy assholes a lot of time and effort to make 'work' so unappealing to the average person. If they stopped trying to force it, and started paying people fairly ("fair" includes a reduction in CEO pay), they wouldn't be having quite so much trouble finding workers!
ThatShiftyMonkey
I told my mom that last time she spouted the phrase. "No one has ever WANTED to work, mom. People like to be active and productive, but WORK is not enjoyable, almost by definition."
Firestart3r
I made my hobby my job working in IT. And I do it with passion. And yet even I say that if I were to win the lottery, I would quit the very moment the money is on my bank account and been taken care of (most of it "out of reach" in assets, pay off my house, and have a chunk of it in a trust account that pays a monthly sum adjusting for inflation to live off).
LurkMasterP
As much as I enjoy my job, I enjoy not working even more. I would do it just like this, but maybe I'd at least give a week or two notice and I'd probably be willing to take calls if they need to tap into my knowledge. For a time.
Firestart3r
Different circumstances. I work in Germany. I must give a three months notice (my employer would have to as well).
mebe21
They know. It's just propaganda
MerriMod
SOME know, which is honestly the worst part. A portion of them are fully aware of the lie and in on the game, but a progressively larger portion every iteration actually buy into their own bullshit a little more over time. A gradual distillation of dumbassery.
You ultimately end up with braindead rich "businessmen" who've never worked a day in their life, believe the rest of the world exists for them, and endlessly fail upwards without a hint of critical thought or comprehension.
geekykeycap
Sounds like you've met every current or retired executive I've ever had a personal relationship with.
MerriMod
It's a small world, friend.